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darrenc
Mar 27th, 2007, 10:47 AM
Sorry if I have posted this in wrong thread this is my first post.
Read this article thought some of you may find interesting.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/discussions/posts/list/9194.page

loganosborne
Mar 27th, 2007, 10:52 AM
Hi Darrenc and welcome to AO. That's an interesting link but I doubt we will see an attack in the near future on Iran.

donniedarko
Mar 27th, 2007, 11:22 AM
Conjecture at this point. Military mobilization in the area is nothing new. Does this mean that there will be large-scale attacks on Iran? Hardly. In all likelyhood, this has more to do with the expected spring offensive from the Taliban elements in Afghanistan than some sort of aggressive military endeavour into a nuke-capable country. The public wouldn't stand for it, the UN won't stand for it, NATO can't be drawn in if NATO members are "agressors". In all honesty, it seems like wild speculation to me. Consider also your source. This is not even from an actual media outlet but rather a discussion forum sponsored by a known sensationalist newspaper.

Attack on Iran in the imminent future? I say no. What does everyone else think?

Raptor Witness
Mar 27th, 2007, 5:44 PM
Welcome to the forum Darren. This is where the darkness meets the light, and it appears that you have brought us some.

The Iranians are using a spirit guide, I believe, so it won't matter what the West or anyone else says or does. They are certain that it's time for their [Mahdi,] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi) or "redeemer" to appear, and Bush is the one who resurrects this figure, possibly. Remember, all legends and myths have their root or basis in something true. Personally, I believe that it's a trick by God Himself, to lure the Persians into battle at a time when the perceive the West to be weakened by war with Iraq. It's interesting, because the Mahdi is the Jesus Christ of Islam. So I expect they are looking for some sort of superman to appear.

Remember what God teaches in [Ezekiel 38] (http://armageddononline.org). I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army—your horses, your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords. Persia, Cush and Put will be with them, all with shields and helmets, also Gomer with all its troops, and Beth Togarmah from the far north with all its troops—the many nations with you.

In other words God says, that He will force Persia to start this war. So perhaps they will have some deluded belief that they can win.

ryangti
Mar 27th, 2007, 7:59 PM
The story about attacking Iran on 6th of April may come soon,
The U.S. Navy is offering a huge show of military might near the location where Iran seized 15 British sailors and marines five days ago, in what is seen as a clear effort to send a message to Iran, a senior military official told ABC News' Martha Raddatz in Bahrain.
Twelve ships, 100 aircraft and 12,000 sailors are taking part in the war games designed to get the attention of Iran. If this doesnt get up their noses then i dont know what else will.For months we have seen some sort of tension,but since the capture of the UK sailors it has now become more tense,on top of that as well Iran refuses to stops its Uranium production.If there was an immediate attack ,who would back up Iran?Its an exscuse for War believe you me.
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=2986643

Raptor Witness
Mar 27th, 2007, 11:53 PM
I say let the war begin. The Brits are probably deliberately baiting the Iranians. Let's see if their Mahdi shows up. What's really strange to me, is that the Mahdi loyalists believe that Jesus will appear with this guy. Which makes me wonder, could this be an Islamic version of the Biblical story of the Two Witnesses of Revelation, who wage war against the Beast and the False Prophet at the end of time? Could this be another version of this prophecy or story, where one is Christian and the other is Muslim? That's an amazing possibility.

Smoke
Mar 28th, 2007, 12:03 AM
I wish I could be there if it were to happen.

One day it wil happen.... I doubt the 6th because from what i know it would more than likley crush the U.S economy and a war on 2 fronts is pretty bad.... but one day soon.

Abyssal_Worm
Mar 28th, 2007, 4:11 AM
I wish I could be there if it were to happen.

One day it wil happen.... I doubt the 6th because from what i know it would more than likley crush the U.S economy and a war on 2 fronts is pretty bad.... but one day soon.

U.S. Economy? Try Global economy. But even that is a stretch. People claimed the U.S. economy would collapse as a direct result of knocking off Iraq, but it still hasn't happened.

Two fronts? Try three. (Iraq, Afghanistan, and potentially Iran)

As for the linked "source", that's just a forum like this one. Its not even close to being a real source. Consider it satire and move on. Sheesh...

"I wish I could be there if it were to happen."

So do I, that way you can experience the carnage first hand and understand how remarkably silly that statement was.

Agent Tellman
Mar 28th, 2007, 5:13 AM
When is it strategically expedient to attack on two fronts?

When your fronts are flanks.

lady-t
Mar 28th, 2007, 6:22 AM
april 6th is good friday. isn't that a jewish holiday?? not sure if that is connected or not. i read the article yesterday or was it the day before, anyway, the article i read was quoting a russian guy so if it ends up being bogus then all they have to do is say " my source was wrong"

if they had two reliable sources then i would really worry. i have however marked it on my calender will be interesting to see if it does happen.

if we get into it with iran the oil will essentially stop thru the straights. iran will bomb anything that moves down it. you can bet.

if we get into a war with iran--oil will jump to over 100.00 a barrel, gas will skyrocket. trucking companies will flounder and then fail, food distribution in the u.s. is at risk.

if we get into a war with iran--china will get involved because china receives who knows how much oil from iran. china IS a superpower AND they have nukes. i don't really expect them to use them, but it is a possibility.

i have been saying this from the beginning--the u.s. needs to leave iran alone. this started because of the oil, not because of nuclear ambitions by iran. that was only an excuse.

how complete is your disaster kit-stash of food etc etc etc

Dagger[X]
Mar 28th, 2007, 7:12 AM
They have been talking about the possibility of this war for years now, a year ago i remember sites like Rense and lots of messageboards were filled with predictions of an imminent attack, and there was similar talk the year before that etc.
Im actually a bit frustrated, get on with it or forget it, stop teasing me! :confused:

Britannia
Mar 28th, 2007, 9:33 AM
april 6th is good friday. isn't that a jewish holiday?? not sure if that is connected or not.

Interesting, I thought all Christian countries celebrate good Friday? The passover and all that, we do over here anyway. Could be connected, but I bet it's just one of those coincedental date events where one celebration clashes with some insignificant date or event.

Smoke
Mar 28th, 2007, 11:29 AM
So do I, that way you can experience the carnage first hand and understand how remarkably silly that statement was.


Silly,? Its only silly to you because your too much of a pussy to comprehend why someone would even consider going over there...grow a pair.

Raptor Witness
Mar 28th, 2007, 2:29 PM
When is it strategically expedient to attack on two fronts?

When your fronts are flanks.
Excellent point, but considering the spiritual beliefs on both sides, which is perhaps subconsciously playing a role in the decision making process, caution is thrown to the wind ... and the wind wins? :shy:

lady-t
Mar 28th, 2007, 9:18 PM
Interesting, I thought all Christian countries celebrate good Friday? The passover and all that, we do over here anyway. Could be connected, but I bet it's just one of those coincedental date events where one celebration clashes with some insignificant date or event.

i wasn't sure if it was a jewish holiday or not. most people in america don't "celebrate" good friday. and you may just be right about it being just a coincidence about the date falling on good friday.

Ningishiddza
Mar 29th, 2007, 10:32 AM
Sorry if I have posted this in wrong thread this is my first post.
Read this article thought some of you may find interesting.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/discussions/posts/list/9194.page

It is uninteresting because rachel_cutie is dumber than a box of rocks.



27/03/2007 11:52:59
Attack on Iran, 6th April!!! Russians removing vessels!

As Blair now readies himself for war against Iran by stating that if the naval personnel are not released it will lead to a 'different phase' after diplomacy fails, the British incursion (not to mention the surprising inaction of the recently updated UK naval ship)into Iranian waters is making more sense.

The UK vs Iran? The UK will end up on the short end of the stick. They'll need glass-bottom ships so they can see their navy, just like the Falklands.



Last Tuesday the russians announced:-

The Russian government on Tuesday announced the pull out of its nuclear experts, including technicians, engineers and other specialists, at the Iranian nuclear reactor plant in Bushehr.

For failure to make payments. Iran has been delinquent on its payments on the contract for some time. It's disengenuous not to mention that.

Iran's oil production has steadily declined over the last several years resulting in decreased revenues. Iran has also had to reserve oil to convert to LNG to run its power plants, which reduces its revenues and will continue to do so until they get their nuclear power program running.


The Russians have removed all carriers from the Persian Gulf - out of harms way.

What a dumb bitch.

Carrier, as in the singular, not plural. The Admiral Kustenov is the only working Russian carrier and it is in dry-dock and has been off and on for the last several years. When it does venture out into open waters, it does so only for flight deck and flight operations testing and certification.

The Russians do not and have not had carriers in the Persian Gulf.


The claims being made state that the intended attack is to take place April 6th, will be an air assault from 4am to 4pm , is code named 'Operation Bite' with about 20 targets already designated.

No. Code names are nouns of 5 to 12 letters assigned by computer, except for those operations that are politically sensitive which have propagandistic code names like "Desert Shield."

The US does not schedule start times in advance.


The attacks will be mounted from a number of UK bases including the island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean. Diego Garcia is currently home to B-52 bombers equipped with standoff missiles.

ACLMs, which lumber along at 350 knots. Your average Iranian pilot would die of boredom shooting them down with 20mm cannons from their Jian-6 Chinese MiG copies.


as well as from those of the Sixth Fleet in the Mediterranean.

Um, no, the concepts are "soverign air space" and "combat radius."


The USS Stennis carrier strike group arrived in late February with an additional 6,500 sailors to join the USS Dwight D Eisenhower carrier strike group in the Persian Gulf.

Nobody gives a damn how many sailors there are. Sailors don't fight.


The French aircraft carrier group Charles de Gaulle arrived in the Arabian Sea in mid-March for operations relating to Afghanistan, a spokesman for the French naval forces in Paris confirmed.

They'll be spying and sending info to the Russians. When the aren't doing that, they'll be giving the US the coordinates for the Chinese embassy to bomb.


USA troops deployment now is at its highest level with 220 000 troops in Iraq and the upgraded Nato presence in Afghanistan.

And three more bridgades, two from the "20,000 troop surge" and another added a few weeks ago have yet to be deployed. They won't be in Iraq until late May.


Nato has already stated its willingness to back action against Iran whilst both Russia and China have urged Iran to suspend its enrichment activities, if only to deny this pretext for war.

Because the prevailing winds are blowing from the north and east to the south and west, a fire resulting from the bombing of a uranium enrichment facility would result in contaminants being blown on top of the "6,500 sailors" and the Ghewar oil fields and pipelines and ports and into Kuwait and Iraq. You can be sure the Bush-Cheney-Blair chain knows that. Bush wouldn't be impeached for Iraq, but he would be if oil spiked to $300 a barrel and the US economy crashed.

lady-t
Mar 29th, 2007, 5:09 PM
if you think the world is such a rosey picture why are you even on this forum?hence the forum name "ARMAGEDDON ONLINE" duh!!!

people here discuss the different "disaster scenarios" we believe mostly that something is going to happen real soon if it hasn't already.

you seem to want to bash everyone's opinion ning if you have some helpful data then post the link. if not shut up and read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:0.02:

Abyssal_Worm
Mar 30th, 2007, 2:04 AM
Sometimes Lady-T, its good to have a counter argument. Its quite possible that some of the explanations that Ning has given are indeed valid. However, it should be pointed out that this wasn't a real news article and was in fact a subjective post on a forum. No sources were cited, no real proof was presented. Personally I think this is going to evolve into a "prisoner exchange for some sort of nuclear compromise" offer from Iran.



As for Ning's bashing, I completely agree with your statement. Ning should post links of some kind to substantiate his claims. Otherwise, he is really just trolling the boards.

Justice
Mar 30th, 2007, 4:08 AM
Day by day the american economy is going down hill and day by day we are heading towards an attack on Iran.

i was thinking Bush would pull off another 9/11 style attack to get the sheeple behind him but maybe not.

Russia has better missiles than the americans so it does not need a big battle fleet and i don't think China will let Bush set Iran up as they need the oil so it's a chance, be it a small one that we are going to see shock and awe first hand if we continue to sit by and let the thugs in the whitehouse do as they please and remember they have reserve food and will be the first into underground shelters.

Makes you think the NWO is about to cull the worlds population big time.

Yes i maybe wrong but what if i'm right then will you remember 'Justice' if it comes true.

Does anyone know how long dry rice will last if kept dry as it's cheap to buy and i'm thinking about getting a few sacks.

Nelly-UK
Mar 30th, 2007, 4:19 PM
Okay speaking totally un-biased here, I dont really know what Irans intentions really are, but well if they DID have Nuclear Weapons they in themselves would be a deterrant to the USA attacking them.

IF Iran used Nuclear weapons as an offensive weapon - I very doubt, China, UK, Russia, France, USA or any other Nuclear armed state would have any qualms at having a Nuclear response - personally I dont think Israel would even bother speaking to any other country & would retaliate straight away.

I just think Iran wants a deterrant against being attacked, but that power of having Nuclear weapons could also change into something more sinister - Iran would be free to build up their armed forces without the worry of being attacked & become a very powerful nation.

Also, why hasnt USA/UK etc helped out all the African people being killed by the rebels etc, well ufnortunatly they dont have much oil do they which would effect the ecconomy. Kuwait was helped out by the USA/UK etc only because of their oil, Iraq because of their oil - otherwise they woudnt be bothered.

It's all about oil, kinda sad really but true.

ryangti
Mar 30th, 2007, 9:04 PM
Maybe things could change soon if this report is anything to go by
Iran's decision to stop giving early notice of nuclear development plans to the U.N. watchdog was prompted by fear the information would be used for a U.S. or Israeli attack, Tehran has told the monitoring agency.Bush is quiet lately i wonder why?
"As long as such threats of military action persist, Iran has no option but to protect its security through all means possible, including protection of information which can facilitate openly stated and aggressive military objectives of the war mongers," he wrote.And what were the Americans doing the other day?yes flexing their muscles,talks between North Korea and Us seem to have failed ,could see some involvement with them backing Iran but hey i dont know everything.I seriously think the more defiant Iran becomes the more patience will be lost with the US,Bush is waiting his time for the right moment,even though i dont quite believe bush will start which i think could be world war three but who knows.what intelligent country will stand back and let a country who has something to hide be threatened or a threat of nuclear attack.As it says the more pressure put on Iran the more chance they could retaliate.Just heard that the tensions between Iran and Britain have risen,whilst the US refuse to swap their hostages,so what now?a war between US and Britain?Boar war all over again maybe ,sounds stupid but they say history repeats itself.Ah fuck it US go it alone and we shall pull out,pay the consequences and go to hell.Maybe thats how prime minister blair is thinking right now
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSL3052135520070330

Astroboy
Apr 6th, 2007, 10:20 AM
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w285/HighAway/usrturts.jpg

So much for the scaremongers. Either there is up-coming war or not, I would be surprise if it happens.

Altho, the half of them says in doubt, won't happen and denied that it'll happen and other that is in doubt.
:dunno:

Stop guessing, this isn't like a lottery picking out numbers that you'd think you win.

That goes for thge medias shown above. It's like a paid rumors.
:po:

Britannia
Apr 9th, 2007, 1:34 PM
April the 9th and nowts happened! However, I do believe there may be an attack in this month or the following couple, before the end of Summer at least. What's happened recently is just so convincing, it seems stupid to deny anything will happen.

ryangti
Apr 9th, 2007, 3:24 PM
Iran 'enters new nuclear phase'
Natanz, Iran
The Natanz plant is thought to have room for 50,000 centrifuges
Iran can now produce nuclear fuel on an industrial scale, President Ahmadinejad has announced, in a move likely to further strain tensions with the West.And the story goes on and on
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6538957.stm

Abyssal_Worm
Apr 9th, 2007, 5:02 PM
April the 9th and nowts happened! However, I do believe there may be an attack in this month or the following couple, before the end of Summer at least. What's happened recently is just so convincing, it seems stupid to deny anything will happen.


That is what everyone was saying LAST SUMMER. If it happens, it will happen before the media can pinpoint the date. Remember, Bush likes to make an address to the nation just as the operation is beginning. IF an attack on Iran occurs while he is in office, he will undoubtedly follow the same approach. Until then, consider all of these "reports" from the Russian/Jewish/Kuwati/etc. media with skepticism.

ryangti
Apr 9th, 2007, 8:43 PM
Wake up one day and hear Kaboom or wont wake up at all.
Iran comments could increase support for Sheikh: Trad
Islamic Friendship Association founder Keysar Trad says he believes Sheikh Taj el-Din Al Hilali will garner more support from Australian Muslims following his controversial latest comments in Iran.Oh god and the Holy War may just start in a city near you.Seems to me that Tehran just want to start a hornets nest with the west.Quick im converting to Muslim soon as only 20% percent of christians now only go to church in the UK.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200704/s1893269.htm

Ningishiddza
Apr 12th, 2007, 6:57 PM
Quick im converting to Muslim soon as only 20% percent of christians now only go to church in the UK.

Why? That would be stupid unless you wanted to be prime minister or something like that. You can be a christian or a Jew and still work in government positions and command armies. Suppose you enlisted in the Syrian army and rose to the rank of general and commanded an armored division. There's no advantage to converting to Islam, except maybe taxes.

MapMan
Apr 13th, 2007, 4:10 AM
if you think the world is such a rosey picture why are you even on this forum?hence the forum name "ARMAGEDDON ONLINE" duh!!!

people here discuss the different "disaster scenarios" we believe mostly that something is going to happen real soon if it hasn't already.

you seem to want to bash everyone's opinion ning if you have some helpful data then post the link. if not shut up and read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:0.02:

I think he takes every comment as a challenge. He's clearly contrary in nature!

Ningishiddza
Apr 13th, 2007, 2:18 PM
if you think the world is such a rosey picture why are you even on this forum?hence the forum name "ARMAGEDDON ONLINE" duh!!!

Obviously, you're an American. Only an American would criticize something they know nothing about.

And the world will be "such a rosey picture," as soon as the US is history. It's coming. You will know soon enough. You'll even know before the next election date.


people here discuss the different "disaster scenarios" we believe mostly that something is going to happen real soon if it hasn't already.

you seem to want to bash everyone's opinion ning if you have some helpful data then post the link. if not shut up and read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:0.02:

I see many beliefs, but no opinions. An opinion is a conclusion drawn on facts.

I've repeatedly provided factual reasons why no attack could possibly occur in April or May or before the middle of June, yet you choose to ignore that and then get upset when I'm right all the time.

Iran will be attacked. Your window is June 15 to September 15. Will it occur sooner, or later?

You know the answer.

What are their objectives?
What do they need to achieve them?
When is the most opportune time to intiate action, and why?

It isn't difficult. Just think about it.

RhymnRzn
Apr 13th, 2007, 3:31 PM
There have been consensus reached between I think 10 different nations at the recent Arab Summit, setting terms for conditions of peace with Israel, and perhaps getting some peoples on the same page. Hundreds of thousands have demonstrated in Iraq, and the fortified "green" zone was penetrated in an attack on Iraqi parliament; also a major bridge was blown up over the Tigris.

Already being beset on its borders, beware, and be careful (we do not want carnal war), if Iran takes action of their own:

Isaiah 22:5
For it is a day of trouble, and of treading down, and of perplexity by the Lord GOD of hosts in the valley of vision, breaking down the walls, and of crying to the mountains. (v.6) And Elam bare the quiver with chariots of men and horsemen, and Kir uncovered the shield. (v.7) And it shall come to pass, that thy choicest valleys shall be full of chariots, and the horsemen shall set themselves in array at the gate.
Isaiah 28:5
In that day shall the LORD of hosts be for a crown of glory, and for a diadem of beauty, unto the residue of his people, (v.6) And for a spirit of judgment to him that sitteth in judgment, and for strength to them that turn the battle to the gate.
In the above verses, the valley of vision speaks of the Holy Land, the gate speaks of Jerusalem, Elam speaks of modern day Iran, Kir, or Kir-hareseth, speaks of the southern part of modern day Jordan.

Soultaker
Apr 14th, 2007, 7:23 PM
Rhymm, if that's so you'd better start buying gallons and gallons of gas. You're gonna need it whether if you live in the US or Europe.

RhymnRzn
Apr 15th, 2007, 1:19 PM
^ I live in the oil capitol of the world, Tulsa, Oklahoma, where gas prices are at any given time the cheapest in the nation. With the strategic oil reserve in the Lone Star state, a streamlined gas market would hub right here.

Soultaker
Apr 15th, 2007, 2:39 PM
^ I live in the oil capitol of the world, Tulsa, Oklahoma, where gas prices are at any given time the cheapest in the nation. With the strategic oil reserve in the Lone Star state, a streamlined gas market would hub right here.

That was a creepy answer, in my opinion.
I would like to know HOW is going to be distributed if there were an invasion against Iran... I bet the most oil (50-70%) will be given to the military.

ryangti
Apr 15th, 2007, 5:03 PM
Iran seeks offers to build two new nuclear power plants,yeah thats how the conflict could start.There are already contacts with Russian and European firms,see what i mean?European firms!fuckin backstabbers.Iran insists it only wants to produce energy,my ass!Russia has launched its first new generation nuclear submarine since the fall of the Soviet Union as the Kremlin seeks to upgrade its undersea nuclear strike force.Hah its all leading upto something
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200704/s1897694.htm
US urges N Korea to bring back nuclear inspectors,and where is this leading to?
So many scenarios for a conflict but who will start first?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200704/s1897693.htm

Soultaker
Apr 15th, 2007, 9:42 PM
And Iran would be crazy if they didn't develop a nuclear program for military purposes (see Israel, Pakistan and India... especially the first one). A shame this could only be possible after 2010.

liberdave
Apr 16th, 2007, 5:40 PM
Obviously, you're an American. Only an American would criticize something they know nothing about.

And the world will be "such a rosey picture," as soon as the US is history. It's coming. You will know soon enough. You'll even know before the next election date.

Cut it out Ningishiddza. This is not allowed here. This sure does look like a belief to me...

TC
Apr 16th, 2007, 5:56 PM
Cut it out Ningishiddza. This is not allowed here. This sure does look like a belief to me...

Pretty strange IP address for someone in Eastern Europe...... unless its a disgruntled collage professor living in the mid west and running under a mask...LOL

ryangti
Apr 16th, 2007, 9:02 PM
Just a few updates about our favorite country Iran, how soon and how long?
WAR!
Iran says could reveal new "nuclear achievements,push me and see what happens
Iran will announce unspecified new "nuclear achievements" if the United Nations takes fresh steps against it over its disputed atomic program, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Monday.The crowd chanted "Death to America," and "Nuclear technology is our right.said that he would flatten Israel not long to go and again to give more sanctions.get a life it wont work as it hasnt so far all talk talk talk,for fek sakes UN you are waisting your time.
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSHAF62944420070416

liberdave
Apr 17th, 2007, 12:54 PM
Pretty strange IP address for someone in Eastern Europe...... unless its a disgruntled collage professor living in the mid west and running under a mask...LOL

I found the same thing you did. What's up with this Ning?

ryangti
Apr 17th, 2007, 4:09 PM
had better not push Iran if this is anything to go by,
The disastrous state of the U.S. military is putting the country in strategic peril, a retired U.S. general said on the eve of a showdown between President George W. Bush and Democrats over paying for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.Maybe thats why somebody said if you attack Iran there will be serious consequences,it would be suicide if we take on anymore countries.
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSSIB77518920070417

TC
Apr 17th, 2007, 4:14 PM
I found the same thing you did. What's up with this Ning?

My theory is he has tapped federal funding for cultural exchange, buys a privet jet, lives in eastern Europe ( God knows where) commutes on a daily bases with said privet jet to Cincinnati ( current IP) to make his opening classes at a local collage, ( must be a popular teacher) as well as finding time to chastise the less educated posters on AO.

We're up against a federally funded superman here folks.....

Soultaker
Apr 17th, 2007, 7:12 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, in 2007 there are going to be elections for president in the US, right? :neurotic laugh:

Abyssal_Worm
Apr 17th, 2007, 9:25 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, in 2007 there are going to be elections for president in the US, right? :neurotic laugh:

Actually, the elections will begin with primaries in January 2008 and then the actual elections will be held in November of next year.

Hashmalau
Apr 18th, 2007, 9:21 AM
My personal opinion is that any attack on Iran will take place during the confusion of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's death, he does have prostate cancer and its very unlikely he'll live through the end of the year. An anonymous U.S. energy consultant said it was unlikely that he had even 2 months left and that was in February < not sure he's qualified to asses the actual lifespan of a prostate cancer victim. Anyway, strategically it would seem the most appealing to strike after the supreme leader of Iran dies since it is set that he will be most likely replaced by a council which will require an amendment to their constitution requiring its heads of religion and state to meet all together. An Israeli or U.S. strike either covertly or overtly would solve any problems they have in the immediate future with the country.

Soultaker
Apr 18th, 2007, 11:40 AM
Actually, the elections will begin with primaries in January 2008 and then the actual elections will be held in November of next year.

Darn! darn! darn!


My personal opinion is that any attack on Iran will take place during the confusion of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's death, he does have prostate cancer and its very unlikely he'll live through the end of the year. An anonymous U.S. energy consultant said it was unlikely that he had even 2 months left and that was in February < not sure he's qualified to asses the actual lifespan of a prostate cancer victim. Anyway, strategically it would seem the most appealing to strike after the supreme leader of Iran dies since it is set that he will be most likely replaced by a council which will require an amendment to their constitution requiring its heads of religion and state to meet all together. An Israeli or U.S. strike either covertly or overtly would solve any problems they have in the immediate future with the country.

And the USA soldiers in Iraq might pay the price for that. Anyway... darn!!!

ryangti
Apr 18th, 2007, 4:18 PM
Iran making nuclear fuel in underground plant: IAEA,not good news then
Iran has begun producing nuclear fuel in its underground uranium enrichment plant, a confidential U.N. atomic watchdog document said on Wednesday, ratcheting up its defiance of the United Nations.What should the western world do now?
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSL1870149120070418

Soultaker
Apr 19th, 2007, 1:02 AM
Continue with negotiations and let Russia or EU to supply nuclear fuel enough for civil usage, so that everybody knows how much nuclear fuel Iran could have.

On the other hand, I'd wonder who the hell has the most stocks on Reuters... and I bet is some organization involved with the military.

Abyssal_Worm
Apr 19th, 2007, 12:57 PM
Continue with negotiations and let Russia or EU to supply nuclear fuel enough for civil usage, so that everybody knows how much nuclear fuel Iran could have.


That might work if Iran actually was willing to go along with that. However, they have repeatedly stated that they will not give up their right to enrich uranium into fuel. As long as they are able to make their own fuel, who knows how much they'll have at their disposal? Furthermore, how will we know that all of it is either dedicated to civilian research or generation of electricity?

Demonskates
Apr 19th, 2007, 2:03 PM
As long as its just fuel, whats the problem? Granted i dont trust Iran much, but if its just for power, let em have it. maybey their reactor will melt down.

Abyssal_Worm
Apr 20th, 2007, 9:03 AM
As long as its just fuel, whats the problem? Granted i dont trust Iran much, but if its just for power, let em have it.

Sounds great, but how do we know for certain that it is for fuel and not for weapon development? That is the question that everyone is most concerned about.


" maybey their reactor will melt down."

I wouldn't will that on anyone. That would be a horrible experience for everyone.

ryangti
Apr 21st, 2007, 7:49 PM
What could send Iran to have a conflict with either Israel or US?Everybody seems to know each other in a sense and seem to back each other up.All against US and Israel he has threatened both especially Israel,how soon nobody know for sure,but can see it coming,as things cannot go on as they are without some consequence.
Israeli-Palestinian clashes flare,again does Iran supply weapons to Islamic Jihad next?
The Israeli army says the ceasefire still holds but Israel believes it still has the right to take defensive measures against rocket attacks.Remember the conflict they lost but would not admit.try and then stop Israel attacking Iran or neighbouring countries involved with Islamists etc and anything to do with Iran.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6580459.stm