Structures On Mars!

[Shenandoah]

Check out the research this guy did that was spiked by the media.

Shenandoah

http://www.truinsight.com/PROJECT%20REDSTAR%20INFO%20&%20ORDER%20COAST%20TO%20COAST%20AM.htm

[FlamesMistress9]

Okay I read the whole thing but what were the structures? And how did they find the alien buildings and aliens on mars, did they take pictures? I don't know, I just find it hard to believe since scientists have scanned the surface of Mars and only found a little bit of frozen water. I think the only aliens we'll find will be in the form of microscopic bacteria. :)

[dutchie]

Shenandoah, we had this entire thread once before here, some three months ago. It was discarded as being a total hoax.

[MetalMilitia]

I've read all about, and entertained the thought of the pyramids (supposedly its a mirror of giza) and face on mars, but it looks to me like it is simply the planets natural geography....

[dutchie]

That's right: new pictures with beter camera's have proved this. Suddenly it doesn't look like a face anymore, just like a range of mountains and craters.

[MetalMilitia]

The Structures: Please give it time to load...
http://www.armageddononline.org/Matt/above.jpg
This is what most people argue to be "structure" or "ruins" on Mars, but it looks like just a bunch of random geological formations...

The Face: More Loading Time...
http://www.armageddononline.org/Matt/face1.gifhttp://www.armageddononline.org/Matt/face2.jpg
(left From 1976 Viking Mission ~ooooh~)
(right From recent 1998 Mars global surveyor mission... yeah...)

I'm afraid I'm very skeptical on the structures...and even more so on the face, however if there was once water on Mars, I'm incline to beleive that there was once life. (no matter how insignifigant / microscopic / whatever)

[dutchie]

It is in fact certain that water in large quantities has been present on mars. Life? Who knows...

But the pictures show no structures, I am certain of that.

[MetalMilitia]

How many books out there have been based on the Mars face / cydonia / structures on Mars? HUNDREDS! How many of those provide a shred of evidence other than satellite images and mere speculation... NONE!

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~Still waiting on that heffer hoolio~

[lazserus]

As you notice the Viking pictures compared to the more recent ones is a simple factor of image quality. Poor resolution can make a person believe an item looks entirely different than it really does. I think it's safe to say that the face was just a result of poor resolution and very early and limited technology used by NASA.

[MetalMilitia]

Too true. Most of the sites you goto where they cite references to the face / structures they are from the 70's viking missions. All of that despite the 1998 Mars global surveyor, and from what I found 4-6 other high quality satelleite images within the last few years.

The newer satellite images have about 500% better resolution and can filter out bogus shadows and other anomalies, yet the people and websites that focus on this stuff are still using references from the mid 70's!

Hippies!

[Mensa Genius]

I always thought the face on mars was some natural formation.. looked pretty cool when i was younger, but I always thought of it as I thought of clouds, your mind can create any image it wishes if you let it run free.

[MetalMilitia]

Any other links / sources / pics on this subject, or shall I put her down like a lame horse? Hehe...

I've gone to so many websites on this subject, and as I previously stated... they are using old pictures, and have absoloutely no scientific facts. However they can rant on for hours somehow.... strange....

[prezhorusin04]

Wouldn't it be funny if that whole Cydonia region, with the face and "pyramids" was really jst a 10 ft. model on a table top?:sardonic: :Bdevil: :smokin:

[MetalMilitia]

Ehehehehhahahahaa

NO!!! I want some of that "proof" that everyone talks about.

Sorry to be such a skeptic! :tired:

[prezhorusin04]

i'm just saying, don't be suprised if the Face itself is a plant, in order to perpetuate the notion of life from another planet..

N.A.S.A. accidently "leaks" the information and then has been "covering it up" ever since..i'm just saying, what if the whole picture itself is a sham??-Put out to keep people interested and hopeful in the "origin from another planet" theory??-Just like all these moon and Mars probes are now "dissapearing".

See how N.A.S.A. could be an anagram of N.A.TAS-S.A.TAN>?

in my book, the pics are either natural formations are frauds..:alien: -Very Interesting Topic though.!
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:indiffer: :alien: :indiffer: :alien:

[MetalMilitia]

<=- goes to drink another beer...

[prezhorusin04]

:wine: :wine: :toast: :wine: :smokin:

[MetalMilitia]

Quit typing in ararbic... I can't read that s~~t....


:toast:

[RavenWhitefang]

Wow...2003 Thread Resurrection ...moving on

Found this image from the 2006 Mars Express set (http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0609/cydonia_marsexpress_big.jpg). It is an extremely detailed view of the Cydonia region. Very high resolution and very large, but it is a beautiful picture. Enjoy.

[Traveler]

The only time we will know for sure is when we send a team there to do a real examination.

Lets just hope that there are no unintended consequentness.

[Demonskates]

WoW, I thought everyone knew that was a hoax by now.

[Ningishiddza]

I guess the question is how much do trust NASA? They're an organization that knew there were problems with the O-rings but said nothing, until after a shuttle exploded, and knew there were problems with the ceramic heat tiles, but said nothing until after another shuttle exploded. It's obviously a very political organization.

[Demonskates]

I guess the question is how much do trust NASA? They're an organization that knew there were problems with the O-rings but said nothing, until after a shuttle exploded, and knew there were problems with the ceramic heat tiles, but said nothing until after another shuttle exploded. It's obviously a very political organization.

That was blatent ignorance. I wouldnt trust N.A.S.A. with a model rocket let alone the shuttle. Apparently astronaughts are expendible.

[Ningishiddza]

That was blatent ignorance. I wouldnt trust N.A.S.A. with a model rocket let alone the shuttle. Apparently astronaughts are expendible.

Well, there's no call for it. They did really well with Apollo and the earlier programs for the most part. They had 7 lunar missions with 6 going well. The logical thing to do would have been to move onto to Mars, instead they pretend like it doesn't exist for 20 years. For the Apollo missions, each dollar spent brought back $1.76. That's a great investment and doesn't even take all the wonderful technology we got out of it into consideration.

I think part of the problem is that when they started the shuttle program they became a quasi-military organization with all the military missions for spying and launching spy satellites and stuff.

[Britannia]

I just find it hard to believe since scientists have scanned the surface of Mars and only found a little bit of frozen water.

Oh dear, 4 years later in 2007... Recent research from last month proved that there is enough frozen water on Mars to cover the planet 11 metres deep in liquid water. If it melts, I wonder if any C02 will be released and create an atmosphere (a stronger one anyway.)

http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMSWJQ08ZE_index_0.html

[Ningishiddza]

Oh dear, 4 years later in 2007... Recent research from last month proved that there is enough frozen water on Mars to cover the planet 11 metres deep in liquid water. If it melts, I wonder if any C02 will be released and create an atmosphere (a stronger one anyway.)

For sure. Frozen CO2 sublimates at about -78*F which is well before water, but, that's at standard pressure. The atmosphere on Mars is much less than Earth so it might start melting around -85*F.

That won't do anything though. Mars has less gravity than Earth and there is nothing to shield out UV radiation. UV radiation would break the bonds of O3, O2, N2, CO, CO2, and H2O and the lighter particles would have a greater chance of escaping, which is what happened and is happening now.

[Cartesiantheater]

For sure. Frozen CO2 sublimates at about -78*F which is well before water, but, that's at standard pressure.

Quick correction: I'm pretty sure it's -78.5°C not F (http://www.dryiceinfo.com/science.htm) that carbon dioxide sublimates...

::fades back into obscurity...::

[Ningishiddza]

Quick correction: I'm pretty sure it's -78.5°C not F (http://www.dryiceinfo.com/science.htm) that carbon dioxide sublimates...

::fades back into obscurity...::

Well, when it's that cold, who freaking cares?

Suppose it did start melting, what do you think would happen?

I'll bet they already know whether or not Mars has oil. If Mars had oil, we'd already have been there.

[Harry61]

I'll bet they already know whether or not Mars has oil. If Mars had oil, we'd already have been there.


Oh my word, how true! lol

[Cartesiantheater]

I'll bet they already know whether or not Mars has oil. If Mars had oil, we'd already have been there.

I hate to admit it, but sadly you are right here.

I know you call it "masturbating," but some money should be spent soley on the sake for learning (ultimately, when our sun goes, assuming we're still here, science/technology is the only thing that will save us anyway- well, the species (which will no doubt look different)... not us...)... a truly sad world we live in...

Of course... on a side note, how the hell is Mars going to have oil unless it had a multitude of organisms at one time? (but then, that gets you thinking; what if there WAS at one time life? Isn't that reason enough to poor some more money into the space programs?)

[Ningishiddza]

Of course... on a side note, how the hell is Mars going to have oil unless it had a multitude of organisms at one time? (but then, that gets you thinking; what if there WAS at one time life? Isn't that reason enough to poor some more money into the space programs?)

No. It's reason enough just for the practice of space exploration. If you can't put a man on Mars, then you can't put a man on any of the Jovian moons or any of the planets orbiting the 1,500 G-Class stars within 50 light years of Earth.

I wouldn't be suprised if Mars had life. Maybe lots of bacteria, some proto-algae, maybe even some lichens. I saw a photo that looked like it had some calcium based copper minerals. That might suggest radiolarians and maybe some plankton. Sure would be nice to know for sure.

At some point, future generations are going to want to leave, or be forced to leave this planet, for any number of reasons. And it may have to be in a hurry.

The probablility of an extinction level event in the near future is low, but the possibility always exists. How sad that all life here would end, simply because they'd rather spend $500 Billion on Iraq rather than explore Mars.

The technology benefits would be awesome. Most likely there'd be an alternative to the combustion engine, which would end oil dependency, among things.

It isn't that I don't like black-holes and quasars, that stuff is interesting, but there's no benefit from it, other than satisfying egotistical personalities. Figure out how to get us out to the stars, and I don't care what the hell they do. Besides, I'd think it would be more exciting to look out the window of a spacecraft at a neutron star, instead of looking at it through a telescope.

[medicvet]

I don't care what it is, if it is ANYTHING that sparks interest in travel to and exploration in mars, then I am all for it, we should have already been there as far as I am concerned.