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Traveler
Apr 8th, 2007, 6:13 PM
Understanding the Mark of the Beast.

Because of the times that we live in there has been a great deal of interest regarding the subject of the beasts. In light of this it would be a good idea to have a closer look at just what the scriptures have to say about this subject so that we may all get a better understanding of the subject.

There are two beasts, the greater and the lessor but the Mark is associated with the image of the beast.

Revelation chapter 13

[15] And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
[16] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
[17] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[18] Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

From verse 15 we see that this image is given life but this is an image of the beast that has been made by men so it has to be a form of artificial life with artificial intelligence. Are we looking at some form of super or Bio computer system. One thing is certain in that its area of influence will be world wide. It will demand that all worship it as in submit to its authority, thus indicating that its influence will be exhibited in even the most remotest of regions. Probably through the world wide web and satellite links where no ground line is available.

Now from verse 16 and 17 we see that this image has two functions involved in the worlds economic system. Every person on the face of the planet has to receive its Mark as in get tagged. Without that Mark they will not be able to either buy or sell. In other words cash will be a thing of the past and no longer legal tender. The image of the beast will be in total control of all transactions and its Mark will tag you for identification in this system that it will control. You won’t even be able to have a garage sale of all your old junk without it making it happen and approving each and every item sold.

Through economic means it will have complete and total surveillance of all persons living on the face of the planet. Those who do not receive this Mark will not be worshiping this image and will be put to death. Their means of resistance will be taken away from them because they will be unable to either buy or sell which means that they are unable to earn a living or get paid any form of wages or have a place to live. They will be totally cut out of and off from civilization, and as civilization owns every patch of land on the face of the planet there will be no wilderness left to retreat to that will not be monitored or patrolled by those who have received the Mark and have all the resources of the state at their disposal.

It is from verse 18 that we get the number 666 from. Now you have all seen the bar codes on all the consumer products that are sold to day. You have all seen the number 666 embedded in them in the form of the first two bars, the last two bars and the two long bars right in the middle. All manufactured or packaged goods have received their Mark in preparation for this system. All that’s left to do is to issue the corresponding Mark to the recipients of those goods and the system will be in full swing. Cashless society with both consumers and products Marked for instant identification by the computing system known as the Image of the Beast that will be able to monitor and approve all transactions. Or refuse the transaction if you are not supposed to have possession of the item. This Image is also in the position to decide if it is even going to allow you to have any purchasing power in the first place, so you had better be nice!

Revelation Chapter 14

[9] And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
[10] The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
[11] And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
[12] Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
[13] And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

Now from these verses the following becomes quite obvious. God is commanding the people to reject this Mark and to not accept it.

He has gone so far as to leave no room for doubt that anyone that disobeys this command and receives this Mark will suffer an eternal punishment.

It is acknowledged that many of the people that choose to obey God and reject this Mark will die as a result, but there is also the promise given that they will be rewarded for their obedience. You have to keep in mind that from God’s perspective no one ever actually dies because of the resurrection at the end of the ages. Some to their reward and some to judgment and their punishment.

So the question has to be asked, Why is God the Father so set against this Mark and the system that it represents? Ok, Once implemented it will mean the total enslavement of the human race! But humans have been enslaved in times past and there was not this reaction.

The reason is that in this case it will be a complete and total enslavement of the entire human race with absolutely no hope of ever breaking loose of the shackles that bind you. How are you to mount a resistance when you are under constant surveillance 24 hours every day and unable to acquire any form of equipment with which to mount a resistance.

To add to that is the leadership of this one world slave state. The leadership is in open defiance of God and demanding that all worship it. These beasts will have total control over the earth and all its resources , thus giving it a power base from where it can extend its rebellion through out the galaxy. Is it any wonder that God cuts this new slave kingdom short with his bowls of wrath and battle of Armageddon. If you were in God’s place, could you allow such a situation to continue to exist unchecked?

What I find so perplexing is that we have all the warnings right in front of us in black and white for all to see but for some reason the nations seem to be going out of their way to allow this to happen and even aid in its fulfillment. Why even embed a 666 in the bar codes. Why embed anything at all? Just how blatant can you get?

Raptor Witness
Apr 10th, 2007, 12:19 AM
It will never be something as obvious as the actual number 666, which is merely symbolic of Roman rule. What was wounded by the sword and yet lives? [Neron Caesar] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neron) Only one nation dominates the world right now, and in order to understand the scheme, you must put yourself in Satan's place. Where would you put your FALSE copy of the Kingdom of God on earth? Satan has no choice but to deal with the church of Christ, because the supposed caretakers of the garden are looking after it, until their Master returns. So he has entirely corrupted the church in the U.S. and made them his own children in a kingdom of sin. Instead of his adversary, they are his pride and joy, his blessed traitors. Look between the legs of Satan's bride, and you will find the head of a young goat about to be born.

jeffweeder
Apr 10th, 2007, 1:23 AM
Those that take this "MARK OF THE BEAST", whatever it is , suffer the same fate as those who reject the gospel of this Jesus fellow.

Maybe all without Christ have the mark already.---unforgiven sin.

UVsaturated
Apr 10th, 2007, 12:51 PM
Those that take this "MARK OF THE BEAST", whatever it is , suffer the same fate as those who reject the gospel of this Jesus fellow.

Maybe all without Christ have the mark already.---unforgiven sin.

:yes: :bounce:

Another perfect concept of what the mark is Jeff. I couldn't have said it better myself. There may very well be a physical mark on the way - who knows when - but it is not to be confused with the biblical concept of the mark of the beast.

We are all under the mark already if we have the unforgiveable sin in our hearts.

Ningishiddza
Apr 12th, 2007, 8:24 PM
Now from verse 16 and 17 we see that this image has two functions involved in the worlds economic system. Every person on the face of the planet has to receive its Mark as in get tagged. Without that Mark they will not be able to either buy or sell.

Such an image already existed. It was called a Papal Seal and no one could buy, sell, or trade without it. You might want to study history a little more carefully, and read Iraneaus, Hippolytus, Tertullian, Scolia, Jerome, and others, many of whom were contemporaries of John of Patmos, the alleged writer "Revelations," and have a better feel for the message that John was attempting to convey.

Traveler
Apr 13th, 2007, 3:08 AM
The papal seal only occurred in the areas where the pope had influence.

This Mark is to be world wide and will include every citizen of every country with no regard for any religious background. It will be the backbone of the worlds new financial system and will not be tied up in religion at all.

The only people that will oppose this inevitable evolution of societies economic system in the computer age of electronic funds transfer will be the fundamental Christians who have believed the warnings found in the scriptures. No one else will give it a second thought.

Naturally those self same Christians will in effect be forced to destruction because they will be financial non entities and considered a potential danger to the good running of the state.

Traveler
Apr 13th, 2007, 8:56 PM
This is just a piece of scripture that confirms what I said above. Verse 4 shows the effect that this Mark had.

[2] And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
[3] And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
[4] And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
[5] But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
[6] Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

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Apr 15th, 2007, 2:04 PM
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autryn2
Jun 13th, 2007, 2:11 PM
The papal seal only occurred in the areas where the pope had influence.

This Mark is to be world wide and will include every citizen of every country with no regard for any religious background. It will be the backbone of the worlds new financial system and will not be tied up in religion at all.

The only people that will oppose this inevitable evolution of societies economic system in the computer age of electronic funds transfer will be the fundamental Christians who have believed the warnings found in the scriptures. No one else will give it a second thought.

Naturally those self same Christians will in effect be forced to destruction because they will be financial non entities and considered a potential danger to the good running of the state.
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I agree with the above 100%.

MANY true believers will shun the mark, and suffer for it (most likely with their lives).
The comming of the beast and his mark will force all Christians living during that time to choose a path. It will either be total commitment to God through Christ or total failure as a Christian. No place for fence-setters to go. Imagine how a Christian father will feel when the choice is letting his children starve or reject the mark.

Traveler
Dec 23rd, 2008, 4:32 AM
I thought that I would give this a bump as people have been talking about the mark again

Jake99
Jan 6th, 2009, 8:42 AM
Traveler,

Its interesting how you stand against eficiency measures in trade for the chaos and destruction humanity knows so well. I intend to install a simple Internet managed system that meets the needs of all people even the bankers, salesman and Stock brokers whos jobs will soon dissapear with the installation of the One World E-currency and controlled trade system. If you have old things you want to get rid of the system will buy it back and resell it for you, there will be NO garage sales in the New World. The day of the free trade system which Satan operates is coming to an end.