Giants and Cannibalism ..... WTF !!

[Perfectionist]

Check out this crazy and scary website !! :bondage:

http://members.toast.net/rjspina/Giants%20and%20Cannibalism.htm

[lycanox]

Looks like an another attempt to prove christianity as the right religion.

Most of the site looks pretty nice.
To bad they fall in the typical mistakes.

[pekeawink]

Geez that site is really interesting thank you so much for sharing it! I had heard about the Giants before but never saw actual pics.. I was on that site for awhile. Has any one heard of the mini full grown man that was found in a cave in Wyoming. It is neat it kind of is the opposite of the giants. Pedro. Take a look I love that site as well it is one of my favorite sites.
http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Pedro.html

[The Silence]

http://members.toast.net/rjspina/images/GiantHumanLeg2.jpg
Is there more information on this? Honestly, what if it was possible they did exist regardless of the human factor of exaggeration?

[DontBeAfraid]

lol, why was this posted in prehistory and not religion?

[MapMan]

Well I'm glad this wasn't posted in religion as I never go in those forums due to all the religion bashing which has become oh so tiring to hear...

Religious slant or not, it's quite an interesting theory. I've read a lot of websites that talk about forbidden archaeology and like the fact that there is some things out there so weird and mysterious that neither religion or science has an 'answer' for them.

[pekeawink]

I am interested in finding out what else is out there for us to find. I know that there are species that we have never seen. Stuff keeps being dug up. It used to be years before anyone knew about finds like these... I am so glad we have the internet.. I wonder where the bones of the thrown out skeletons actually ended up. I am curious to find out. I wonder why the hell someone would do such a thing. I know that there are anthropologist out there banging there head over it to.

http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Races.html

I love that site!

Here is another one that just blew my mind It has some really interesting finds.

http://www.space-2001.net/html/strange_finds.html

[steven]

I got to admit, that some pretty cool stuff. Out to the southeast of me, there is a Indian intaglio ( drawings on the ground). They say 500-700years old. It is called the Blythe Giant. Indian legend has it that there was a race of giants out here along the Colorado river, between Yuma AZ. and Poston Az.

[johnb1]

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[lionheart62]

i have never heard or seen anything that had evidence of giants being around..obv they were here in the mummie days and not around the US .. the fact of wrapping "people" up when they die was known in the midwest. but as far as cannibalism comes in my eyes its natural if you have a dead bodie infront of you and it just died from starvation and you know your next..your gunna get the thought of eating some part of the bodie to stay alive

[MirceaIulian]

Check this out
these were found in the Empty Quarter of Saudi Arabia
36 feet tall human remains

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h37/crimson_and_red_photos/183147ae8e1b66f9e.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h37/crimson_and_red_photos/183147ae8e1b61d9a.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h37/crimson_and_red_photos/183147ae8e1b6b9d3.jpg

[BLOODLINES]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2k7cigzi6Y&feature=related

Don't know really what it is but it's the biggest skeletal remain's I have ever seen.

[BLOODLINES]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4jdrPG0C94&feature=related

Another good one.

[BLOODLINES]

OK. Now would someone please EXPLAIN this creepy far out shit to me?......PLEASE.
How come these types of thing's are not discussed? :dunno:

[lycanox]

Because they are mostly just fakes?

[BLOODLINES]

I believe you to be VERY CORRECT!:0.02:

[MirceaIulian]

i think its not discussed because off mass panic.
i mean we are about the size of one of those things heads, and if we both come from a common ancestor there where did we lose the other 30 feet

[BLOODLINES]

i think its not discussed because off mass panic.
i mean we are about the size of one of those things heads, and if we both come from a common ancestor there where did we lose the other 30 feet


Well then I suggest you research it further, and see what you come up with? If you discover anything credible PLEASE by all mean's POST IT! many on here would enjoy learning more about it.:dunno:

I know I would.

[JenaS62]

I found this today by accident. It's a huge creature buried below sand and water in India. From the sky it looks exactly like a huge sea creature/dragon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2k7cigzi6Y&feature=related

[lycanox]

Coincidentally. I was just going to post this.

http://www.livescience.com/animals/080228-monster-pliosaur.html

[Smoke]

Coincidentally. I was just going to post this.

http://www.livescience.com/animals/080228-monster-pliosaur.html

The link you posted lycanox saus that creatue was the size of a bus, I beleive the one in india is 170 feet.

[pekeawink]

what in the world is that saudi one fake? it is huge and scary. I would like to know if that is real. Let me know

[Skynet12]

I think thyre real as real can be! :D

I mean c'mon, its not impossible, is it?

Sky

[The Fallen]

Looks like an another attempt to prove christianity as the right religion.

Christianity = greatest inferiority complex mankind has ever known.

That is why they constantly need to prove it to everyone else. Me, Im a pagan - I believe that I am right and that is all that matters to me. If someone wants to discuss religion with me, I love a good debate. But I never make a big fuss about proving it without being asked to defend my beliefs. Random comments here and there, usually just for the sake of discussion, thats it.

The world would be a less annoying place to live in if more people were like me, I guess.

[rdhdangel]

very interesting, ill have to go and see now. the skelital remians of the red haired gaints were found not too far from where i am.

[MVP]

Ichthyosaurs fossils were found few hours from where I live (ancient inland sea).

Temperature was much warmer and higher oxygen in the air speculate more habitable and flourishing environment for both prey and predator, so why not become large in size?

[MaximumPain]

when the original site posted has a statement like this they are pretty much discredited as they obviously have an agenda and seem to have no problem lying to get it across.


Darwinian evolutionists –as well as any other enemy of the Faith– are always demanding from Christians scientific evidences that would corroborate the claims of the Bible concerning everything it says in general, and the giants of Genesis chapter 6 in particular.

I get the idea that the "other enemy's of the faith" are anyone who would use the scientific method to show them as fakes.

Heres another great comment from the article.

Even Darwinians have fond specimens so enormous that they have called : "Gigantanthropus" or "Gigantopithecus" (Scientists love those high-sounding names to impress you, and make you think that they know much more than they really do)


Then they go on to site supposed scientists who found supposed skeletons of giants but never site any references, so I guess we just have to take their word for it.

Then there is this quote sited from a Dr. Franz Weidenreich of the American Museum of Natural History.

But the gist of the whole story, which arouses our foremost interest, is the fact that "Gigantopithecus" is not a giant ape, as von Koenigswald assumed, but a giant man and should, therefore, be called "Gigantanthropus." This follows beyond any doubt from the very characteristic pattern of the occlusal surface of the teeth, which differs fundamentally in the structure of the cusps from that of any known anthropoids but agrees even in the minutest details with the hominid pattern as shown by the molars of "Pithecanthropus," Sinanthropus" (other kinds of Nephilim) and even modern man. On the other hand, the form of the teeth, especially that of the third lower molar, and the condition of its root indicate that it has preserved a very primitive character, much more primitive than the known third molars of any fossil hominid. Therefore, we have the same combination which struck us in the human fossils of Java; namely, primitives together with gigantic proportions. But in the case of "Gigantopithecus" the gigantism reaches a new climax. The volume of the crown of the third lower molar is about six times larger than the average crown of modern man; compared with the corresponding tooth of the gorilla, it is about twice as large. We should remember that there have been found human tracks 21.5 inches long in Texas and even a phenomenal 24 inches long in Australia. On the other hand, let's not forget that every ancient culture on earth has recollections of giants that became part of their mythologies.

Try and find that quote sited by any one whos not pushing an agenda of attempting to prove the bible or that giants from Nibaru have been on the Earth.

Here is a page about Dr Weidenreich http://www.answers.com/topic/weidenreich-franz
and here is a comment about the supposed giant man Gigantopithecus.
http://www.answers.com/topic/gigantopithecus-blacki


Its appearance is not known, because of the fragmentary nature of its fossil remains. It is possible that it resembled modern gorillas, because of its supposedly similar lifestyle. Some scientists, however, think that it probably looked more like its closest modern relative, the orangutan. Being so large, it is possible that Gigantopithecus had few or no enemies when fully grown; however, younger, weak or injured individuals may have been vulnerable to tiger and Homo erectus attacks.

Gigantopithecus's method of locomotion is uncertain, as no pelvic or leg bones have been found. The dominant view is that it walked on all fours like modern gorillas and chimpanzees; however, a minority opinion favor bipedal locomotion, most notably championed by the late Grover Krantz, but it should be noted that this assumption is based only on the very few jawbone remains found, all of which are U-shaped and widen towards the rear. This allows room for the windpipe to be within the jaw, allowing the skull to sit squarely upon a fully-erect spine like modern humans, rather than roughly behind it, like great apes.

Hardly the statement that was quoted (a source or documentation would be nice). Of course the internet and information being what it is what do we really know and how is everything not a lie?

[Goldmoon]

Yep, there were giants on the earth. I have done alot of research into it.

Its just that, when evolutionists and the mainstream find anomolies that don't match up to their theories, it is diregarded and thrown away. Thats why there is no mention of it in schools.

We must also remember that higher-ups in science are completely against any mention of truth to the bible, and would stop at nothing to cover it up.

You can also read accounts of people who actually witnessed, and fought these giants in the bible. Since some were upwards of 20 feet, they became tyrants, easily taking over human cities, and consuming all the food and work that the humans had done. They rampaged around because there was no one that could stop them.

If you listen to this song, you will hear an account of a giant:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwsvqVmFV6Y

There were also dinosaurs mentioned in the bible, one of them was said to have a sweeping tail, the size of a cedar tree. I will find the verse.

[lycanox]

Yep, there were giants on the earth. I have done alot of research into it.

In that case you probably also should have some proof in the form of fossils or perhaps even DNA samples by now. Or at least a scientific article which notes that there could once be giants.


Its just that, when evolutionists and the mainstream find anomolies that don't match up to their theories, it is diregarded and thrown away. Thats why there is no mention of it in schools.
Or is it the other way around?

In most cases when a theory conflicts with everything we know about the subject. Its usually the theory itself that is wrong. Not everything else we know.


We must also remember that higher-ups in science are completely against any mention of truth to the bible, and would stop at nothing to cover it up.
Actually lots of stuff in the bible is being researched and confirmed. Its just the supernatural stuff that is constantly debunked.


You can also read accounts of people who actually witnessed, and fought these giants in the bible. Since some were upwards of 20 feet, they became tyrants, easily taking over human cities, and consuming all the food and work that the humans had done. They rampaged around because there was no one that could stop them.


If you listen to this song, you will hear an account of a giant:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwsvqVmFV6Y

There were also dinosaurs mentioned in the bible, one of them was said to have a sweeping tail, the size of a cedar tree. I will find the verse.
Sometimes legends are just what they are.

If we were to take them for their word. We might as well also start believing in vampires and gnomes.

[Goldmoon]

In that case you probably also should have some proof in the form of fossils or perhaps even DNA samples by now. Or at least a scientific article which notes that there could once be giants.

There is proof, but its just like I said, no one approves of it, or is willing to accept it. And the high-ups in science will never publish it as fact, and the people only believe the textbooks.

Before this happens, some will make the argument that believers only believe the "textbooks" of the bible, but the difference is: "If you try the Lord's ways, the changes will also come that prove its truth, and in that way, the text is no longer required, it is revealed in the living realm."

[MaximumPain]

Yep, there were giants on the earth. I have done alot of research into it. do share your sources. I can tell you that if they are like the one sited at the start of this thread they will be considered bunk.


Its just that, when evolutionists and the mainstream find anomolies that don't match up to their theories, it is diregarded and thrown away. Thats why there is no mention of it in schools.

We must also remember that higher-ups in science are completely against any mention of truth to the bible, and would stop at nothing to cover it up.
Sounds like we need to throw out science to have this discussion with you. That kind of puts me off because I tend to trust methods more then 1500 year old books that have been re-written several times in order to preserve the power of the church.



You can also read accounts of people who actually witnessed, and fought these giants in the bible. Since some were upwards of 20 feet, they became tyrants, easily taking over human cities, and consuming all the food and work that the humans had done. They rampaged around because there was no one that could stop them.

I also read about orcs and goblins in the lord of the rings series by JRR Tolkien but that doesn't make them real. There is no proof that anything from the Bible actually happened none. So please dont quote it like its fact its a collection of ancient stories written by people who had no concept of how the natural forces of the universe really worked so they created a God to explain it all.



If you listen to this song, you will hear an account of a giant:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwsvqVmFV6Y
Wow someone wrote a song so it has to be true??!!



There were also dinosaurs mentioned in the bible, one of them was said to have a sweeping tail, the size of a cedar tree. I will find the verse.

Make sure to include the chapter and verse so I can look it up my self I like to use my God given gifts of reasoning sounds like another opportunity.

Your position is quite convenient. "It says so in my holy book so its true. Those people who use science have an agenda to discredit the Bible so they are lying." Kind of makes any reasonable dialog impossible doesn't it?

[Goldmoon]

I also read about orcs and goblins in the lord of the rings series by JRR Tolkien but that doesn't make them real. There is no proof that anything from the Bible actually happened none. So please dont quote it like its fact its a collection of ancient stories written by people who had no concept of how the natural forces of the universe really worked so they created a God to explain it all.

You're against the bible then I see. Everything written has come to pass. The proof is out there, if you know where and how to look. Have a read on "2 Timothy 3" I won't pester you, you will have to see it for yourself. It is futile to force it upon someone, they have to be ready to understand.

[lycanox]

There is proof, but its just like I said, no one approves of it, or is willing to accept it. And the high-ups in science will never publish it as fact, and the people only believe the textbooks.
Or is it that this proof failed to pas a peer preview.

Yelling conspiracy is a used a lot recently in attempts to revive old already disproved claims.


Before this happens, some will make the argument that believers only believe the "textbooks" of the bible, but the difference is: "If you try the Lord's ways, the changes will also come that prove its truth, and in that way, the text is no longer required, it is revealed in the living realm."
Offcource That is just a point of view.



You're against the bible then I see. Everything written has come to pass. The proof is out there, if you know where and how to look. Have a read on "2 Timothy 3" I won't pester you, you will have to see it for yourself. It is futile to force it upon someone, they have to be ready to understand.
I would believe it. If there actually was a confirmed fossil find reported be neutral media.

[Goldmoon]

I would believe it. If there actually was a confirmed fossil find reported be neutral media.

I won't clutter this thread any further, but thats what I was getting at. Do you think they would report it? And do you always trust the neutral media, or do you test things out for yourself?

[MaximumPain]

You're against the bible then I see. Everything written has come to pass. The proof is out there, if you know where and how to look. Have a read on "2 Timothy 3" I won't pester you, you will have to see it for yourself. It is futile to force it upon someone, they have to be ready to understand.

From

2 Timothy 3:16 (New International Version)

16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

So its back to the circular reasoning that I have never seen any one debunk. "The Bible is the work of God because it says so in the Bible."

Ive tried to read the Bible many times. Ive been confirmed, and baptized. I was married by a pastor in the christian tradition. I have played in a worship team and been in the choir at more then one church and I pray at least once almost every day. I even chose a Christian based treatment program when I wanted to quit smoking pot (it turned out to be a farce to increase membership in the church and had few of the real recovery methods just a lot of praying ect which I embraced and gave it my all but still failed but I don't blame God for that). I have said the prayer to accept Jesus into my heart at least 5 times that I can remember. I want to believe so badly but the scam artists I have encountered in my life and read about throughout history have chased me away. How can such a God allow charlatans to infest his one true religion to poison his message of salvation?

[Goldmoon]

Ive tried to read the Bible many times. Ive been confirmed, and baptized. I was married by a pastor in the christian tradition.

All that stuff doesn't matter, its not just a matter of customs, thats like the pharisees do... They try to be all perfect in the moral standards of other men. Also watch out for the Catholic Church

When you follow the commandments of God, and seek him, he will reveal himself to you in a different way, and you will have it proven for the rest of your life. Its just all about working with the Lord, and truly seeking him with all your heart.

You want to seek him, so it will be revealed to you. Come out of the world.

[MaximumPain]

All that stuff doesn't matter, its not just a matter of customs, thats like the pharisees do... They try to be all perfect in the moral standards of other men. Also watch out for the Catholic Church

When you follow the commandments of God, and seek him, he will reveal himself to you in a different way, and you will have it proven for the rest of your life. Its just all about working with the Lord, and truly seeking him with all your heart.

You want to seek him, so it will be revealed to you. Come out of the world.

Im taking this to a different thread so we don't jack this one anymore.

[Cyranothe2nd]

Don't you get it MP? You have to BELIEVE to believe...its called circular reasoning (also reducto ad absurdium but that's another post...).

If you don't find god its because you didn't try hard enough, you didn't say the right prayer, you didn't do it right. It couldn't be because the Emperor really *is* naked.
No sir, its you're fault that you can't see his clothes. You just have the BELIEVE HARDER!

[MaximumPain]

What gets stuck in my craw is the idea that science is out to discredit the Bible so they hide things like these giant pre-humans so as not to discredit someones theory. I know that's not how it works many old ideas have been changed, updated, and debunked and the process of critical examination goes on today and will in the future whether or not the religious powers want it to. Look at what some early astronomers had to go through just to prove to people that the Earth wasn't the center of the universe or even our solar system many were burned at the stake or tortured until they "repented" that gives a real bad name to the followers of Jesus is God so vulnerable as to be discredited by some puny human?

Science does not have to be the enemy of religion like many of the Bible believing Christians seem to think (many may be unfair lets go with some of the Bible believing Christians). Seriously there is a process of scientific examination called peer review process and its not governed by some monolithic body deciding what is best for science. Scientists who fake data and discovery's eventually get caught by the community and debunked and although there are without a doubt those who's end goal is to debunk the Bible and religion there are many who seek to prove it. The process obviously works look at all the toys we have to play with and look at all the things we now have a greater understanding off then those people thousands of years ago who wrote the Bible. One thing we know is that there is a lot more to learn about the universe and I doubt that science will ever prove or disprove the existence of God. But I do think it can prove whether giant humans once walked the earth.

[Tired Old Man]

I will agree that the first post here was more about religion than giant's.
Now I will have to ask do you think we had giant's before?
I do. We still have them.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1145434/If-shoe-fits-Worlds-shortest-man-meets-worlds-biggest-shoe.html

[MaximumPain]

I will agree that the first post here was more about religion than giant's.
Now I will have to ask do you think we had giant's before?
I do. We still have them.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1145434/If-shoe-fits-Worlds-shortest-man-meets-worlds-biggest-shoe.html

Nice picture but the giants they are talking about are like 10 feet tall and weighed 500 Kilos. Of course anything is possible in this gargantuan universe.

Due to the way the site that Perf posted is worded its all about the battle between science and the fundamentalist wing of Christianity. If you read that site it is full of unnecessary attacks on science. I believe its out of fear of losing their own faith. If you construct your belief system on a book being the absolute and infallible word of God and someone comes in and shows how there are lies and manipulations in that book even if its just by passing on more information that may call into question the infallibility of said book then faiths can be rocked. Does God condemn us for questioning or for not having 100% faith?

[rdhdangel]

giants probly did exist. i think we just evolved into smaller sized gaints.
i met people 7 ft plus in size. there very well could have been 14-16ft or taller people back then.

[MaximumPain]

giants probly did exist. i think we just evolved into smaller sized gaints.
i met people 7 ft plus in size. there very well could have been 14-16ft or taller people back then.

If there were then the bones and mummy's that people claimed to have found would be real and they would have been tested for DNA and it would have been determined what their origins were. Of these items some have been confirmed to be from Apes some of them quite large such a beast would have been quite scary to a stone age human and they most certainly would have spoke of them in legend.

[Goldmoon]

I know a tall guy who delivers to us, our work dog goes crazy at him. It wants to kill him. He works for a large british gas corporation, and wants biometric information from his customers evertime we sign the invoices... Have to do 3 signatures, and theres a little camera on the apparatus that takes pictures of your fingerprints, and scans your dna... A little weird...

I think he's Nephilim.

[Traveler]

Western Science, by its very nature, cannot and will not accept any theory that involves the concept of an intelligent creator that is involved in the establishment of the natural laws of this universe.

Because of this you can bring any amount of evidence you want to the established scientific community that may give support to the idea that there is a greater intelligence involved in the origin of the species and it will be rejected and debunked as a matter of routine. They have even discovered how to read the DNA and duplicate the basic alphabet of life but will insist that it is a result of chance. Kind of like taking a jar full of DNA pieces and shaking the hell out of it and expecting all the pieces to just fall into the correct order and pop into a viable life form.

The ignorance in this position is unbelievable but as they are an accreditation only to themselves, who is going to tell them any differently. Those giant skeletons are being discovered the whole time. It would appear to any reasonably mined person, that to denie that these creatures actually existed at one point in the earths history, would be an outright lie. But it has become apparent that the practice of supporting a lie is the politically correct order of the current day.

Fortunately the scientific communities in the Asian block have little time for the B/S of the western communities so they are doing the required research and documentation of these finds on their own so the discoveries will not be lost to humanity in the general sense. At some point in the future the information will be available to the rest of us and the current system can be bypassed in favor of some real research of real substance.

[lycanox]

Proof that god exist and we accept it.

Until then we will not accept silly baseless far fetched options like a god to fill in gaps just because we don't know the answer yet.
If it were for religious science, we would still believe that disasters are an act of god to punish us for not praying hard enough.

[Goldmoon]

Proof that god exist and we accept it.
If it were that easy, everyone would understand.

Lycanox, you will stand with the rest of the wicked in mankind, and fight against them when the kingdom comes back to the earth.

[MaximumPain]

Western Science, by its very nature, cannot and will not accept any theory that involves the concept of an intelligent creator that is involved in the establishment of the natural laws of this universe.

The way you put western science in a little box matches the way you want to put God in a small little box by saying your way is the one and only way. Traveler do you really think that all western scientists are atheists? I know for a fact there are many Bible believing scientists that use the scientific method (something you should look up and understand before you come in bashing like you always do) and turn in peer reviewed work some of them are even evolutionists and Christains.



Because of this you can bring any amount of evidence you want to the established scientific community that may give support to the idea that there is a greater intelligence involved in the origin of the species and it will be rejected and debunked as a matter of routine.
What is the evidence that there is a greater intelligence? Is it that things are to complex? I get the idea that its "We don't understand so its has to be God!? Evolution and creation do not have to be contrary let me say it again THEY DO NOT HAVE TO BE CONTRARY! GOD CAN HAVE CREATED EVOLUTION AS A SYSTEM IN ORDER FOR LIFE TO EVOLVE AND CHANGE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF A CHANGING ENVIRONMENT!!!! Unless your a biblical literalist then evolution does not have to threaten the bible. Why are you dissing on God traveler? Are you saying the he couldn't have created evolution because his only book was written by people who could not have understood evolution or the complex process that life is.


They have even discovered how to read the DNA and duplicate the basic alphabet of life but will insist that it is a result of chance. Kind of like taking a jar full of DNA pieces and shaking the hell out of it and expecting all the pieces to just fall into the correct order and pop into a viable life form.
Just because its complicated or falls into place neatly does not automatically indicate a creator. You seem to want them to go out and use this information to prove God and that simply cannot be done. No matter how much we understand about the process of life and DNA building blocks unless we find a message in it some where "haha its God gotcha!" it cannot prove or disprove the existence of a supreme being.


The ignorance in this position is unbelievable but as they are an accreditation only to themselves, who is going to tell them any differently. Those giant skeletons are being discovered the whole time. It would appear to any reasonably mined person, that to denie that these creatures actually existed at one point in the earths history, would be an outright lie. But it has become apparent that the practice of supporting a lie is the politically correct order of the current day.
Some of them are proven fakes but of course in your world scientists are shadowy agents of Satan who scheme all day long how to hide the evidence of God and create ideas that make his power look pale all because they want to capture our immortal souls for their lord and master Lucifer. Others such as the one I sited from the original site (giganiapiticus I think) that was posted are giant apes from 100,000 BC. Of course in your world the discovering scientist found and studied the bones and decided "oh no this is a giant human and that could prove the Bible is correct about giants walking the earth we better make up a cover story and call it some ape so the people don't find out. Lord Satan will be so please with me".



Fortunately the scientific communities in the Asian block have little time for the B/S of the western communities so they are doing the required research and documentation of these finds on their own so the discoveries will not be lost to humanity in the general sense. At some point in the future the information will be available to the rest of us and the current system can be bypassed in favor of some real research of real substance. Which ones the ones from China? The Asian block is a mighty big area and I have no doubt that their scientists run the same gambit as ours do from atheist to believer and I also think that they tend to follow the scientific method just as any good western scientist would and their papers are submitted for peer review and must meet the standards of data collection and consistency of methods. If they find a real giant human Im sure it will be examined, cataloged, and eventually written on and even displayed in a museum somewhere, I know I will go see the giant it would be fascinating.

[lycanox]

If it were that easy, everyone would understand.

Lycanox, you will stand with the rest of the wicked in mankind, and fight against them when the kingdom comes back to the earth.

So basically you are suggesting that we should believe in him because otherwise he will kick our ass.
Somehow that classic story about hank comes to mind.

[Cartesiantheater]

Lord. You people who do not understand science...

Science does not except proof for God that rely on ignorance, because that is not how science works. That is like saying a mathematical proof is "apple." No. "Apple" is not math, and proof from ignorance is not science. Traveler, of your "evidence" for god, ALL of it is of the form:

"You can't explain x, therefore God exists."

Which is BULLSHIT. They said that about lightning. They said it about the orbits of the planets. They said it about <insert>. This simply IS NOT science. It is the POLAR OPPOSITE of science. Science is this:

"You can't explain x, therefore you will investigate x and conduct experiments."


If you presented a piece of DNA and scientists found in micro letters "Lo, I am God." then maybe you would have evidence for the existence of God, or at least evidence for a creator that claims to be God.

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Western Science, by its very nature, cannot and will not accept any theory that involves the concept of an intelligent creator that is involved in the establishment of the natural laws of this universe.
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Fortunately the scientific communities in the Asian block have little time for the B/S of the western communities so they are doing the required research and documentation of these finds on their own so the discoveries will not be lost to humanity in the general sense. At some point in the future the information will be available to the rest of us and the current system can be bypassed in favor of some real research of real substance.

Yes, you are right. The B/S of Western science would NEVER accept such strong science as THIS:

http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/377/16284_centaur.html


This is FROM THE SITE THAT YOU POSTED IN ANOTHER THREAD! By your own words, THIS BULLSHIT ABOUT CENTAURS ACTUALLY EXISTING is better science than "Western B/S science."
Real research of real substance gives us... centaurs.

Admit this please.





I hope this clears up why "Western B/S science" has such stiff standards...

[Goldmoon]

Western Science, by its very nature, cannot and will not accept any theory that involves the concept of an intelligent creator that is involved in the establishment of the natural laws of this universe.

Its like that movie: "Expelled"


So basically you are suggesting that we should believe in him because otherwise he will kick our ass.
Somehow that classic story about hank comes to mind.

The Lord created us, and descended to our planet not for the animals, but for us, the intelligent life. Its not a matter of debating evolution, its a matter of reality, its happening.

And its not a matter of whether he will kick your ass, its a matter of whether you research his ways, seek him, find him, and find that his ways are good.

Its a matter of whether you follow the way of Sin, or the way Nature (God). Whether you want to be part of the world, or to see the world from the outside looking in.

[Cartesiantheater]

I take it you both believe that Centaurs are legitimate science then?

Because that is what your so called "real science" source is claiming...

http://thatotherpaper.com/files/centaur.jpg

::)):

[Goldmoon]

Why be sarcastic, and mock?

There is life elsewhere in the universe... We are not the only ones. It has nothing to do with centaurs.

[Nu Kua]

It's really hard not to mock in these cases...

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o60/oceanfloats/Funny%20Pics/centaur.jpg

[Goldmoon]

LMAO, ok, I will admit, the pics are hilarious. Its probably from some sort of LARP, but they're taking it too far.

And what a pinner bow that guy has! :;):