If you were shown that your religion was Satan inspired would you give it up?

[Sweetwilliam]

The Scriptures state that all religions are from Satan the Devil.
Do you believe the Scriptures or your preacher?
Read Luke 24:25 know that no prophet that wrote in your Bible would go to your Church.
These are facts and can be proven to anyone.


SweetWilliam

[UVsaturated]

Religion bad. Spirituality good.

[Jake99]

You are told not to believe the scriptures or the preachers but religion is a way of leading man to god. Its gives clues but is not the truth but it leads man to the truth when you actually find and follow the messiah as a man when he comes again.

Without religion man would have no clue as to who or what the messiah will be and what he will do when he comes to set up a new world government in the end times.

You are told to wait for superman because only he by way of the works in his wake is the actual truth and the way the bible attempts to speak of.

[Sweetwilliam]

Hey stupied have you not read Luke 24:25?
If you are so dumb as to even speak these words you are a FOOL!
Now that you know what I think of your ignorance and that you are a FOOL may I ask why you still post on this form?


SweetWilliam

[The Wicked Priest]

Sweetwilliam, would you give up your hate filled religion if it were Satan inspired? Yes or no question.

[Mystery]

Religion was meant to hold onto the traditions presented by Jesus. Man screwed that up. So religion is not the problem, people are. So here is a twist, humans are Satan inspired everyday, what do we do with all of us? We are full of sin, we will NEVER be free of it til we die. Some choose to follow religion as a guide. Many do not worship their religion though yes many do. But again, not the fault of religion, but people.

Definition of religion:(from Wiki) A religion is a set of beliefs and practices, often centered upon specific supernatural and moral claims about reality, the cosmos, and human nature, and often codified as prayer, ritual, and religious law.


It is engrained in us to follow a certain set of rules or standards, whatever one choose(christianity, muslim, athiesm, humanism, ect.) We all follow something.

[DontBeAfraid]

Religion was meant to hold onto the traditions presented by Jesus. Man screwed that up. So religion is not the problem, people are.So we agree that man and religion dont mix....


It is engrained in us to follow a certain set of rules or standards, whatever one choose(christianity, muslim, athiesm, humanism, ect.) We all follow something.Atheism is NOT a religion. It is not a set of beliefs or rules or standards. It is an admission in the negative to ONE question out of the infinite number of questions that can be answered.


We are full of sin, we will NEVER be free of it til we die. Maybe you are.... And it is the fault of your religion. Your religion defines many required aspects of ordinary life as sinful and as such it is impossible for you to feel good about yourself. Your religion takes you from an age as young as they are possibly able and ingrain in you a sense that you are a bad person and then somewhere down the line you are unable to find the connection between that lesson and you not being able to assign any blame for anything to your religion... because you are taught that YOU are the monster and not your religion or church. Its disgustingly en genius.

So, to the main question: Mystery, when you learn that your religion is inspired and run by satan will you have what it takes to give it up? Or are you a pathetic addict?

[Assassin X]

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Religion was meant to hold onto the traditions presented by Jesus. Man screwed that up. So religion is not the problem, people are.

So we agree that man and religion dont mix....I swear you were a school bully. All you do here is twist peoples words to your own benifet (sp?). Your like a mini Perfectionist. All though not really as good. Its like when someone says "I hate small wieners." (refering to hot dogs). You'd be the guy to twist it.


So, to the main question: Mystery, when you learn that your religion is inspired and run by satan will you have what it takes to give it up? Or are you a pathetic addict?Well as you said, if God doesn't exist then religion and satan aren't real. And if those aren't real theres nothing to inspire and hes just leading a moral life just because he wants to! So I don't see whats wrong! Hes better then you.

Hey this twisting stuff is nice!

[DontBeAfraid]

I swear you were a school bully.Go play with your bible.


Your like a mini Perfectionist. All though not really as good.Just becuase I am smarter than you does not mean I am a "mini perfectionist". The truth is, he is a mini me.


Well as you said, if God doesn't exist then religion and satan aren't real.You have to show me where I said that. I am pretty certain that I have never made that claim. I am an agnostic. And just for your education: those three things (god, satan, religion), are not intimately tied together. Surely any of the three could exist without the others. And a little recap: When I ask questions about some hypothetical "this" or "that" you can safely assume that you can affix the qualifier "If "this" or "that" does truly exist;" to it. The questions are not admissions of belief or non belief. I am very clear when I make statements of such things.


And if those aren't real theres nothing to inspire and hes just leading a moral life just because he wants to!This is not at all related to either mystery's or my statements. It also has nothing to do with the topic.


So I don't see whats wrong! Hes better then you.

Hey this twisting stuff is nice!You must now prove that I lead a life that is somehow less moral than Mystery. Because my life is already inspired my my own wants and so if you are unable to prove that its immoral then I am in fact Better than You. Im a good person without the threat of eternal torture....

[Mystery]

So we agree that man and religion dont mix....
Atheism is NOT a religion. It is not a set of beliefs or rules or standards. It is an admission in the negative to ONE question out of the infinite number of questions that can be answered.
Men created religion. All religion is, is a set of beliefs banded together that a group followers, there for in a sense Atheism is a religion. You must remove the definition brainwashed into our heads what religion is.

Maybe you are.... And it is the fault of your religion. Your religion defines many required aspects of ordinary life as sinful and as such it is impossible for you to feel good about yourself. Your religion takes you from an age as young as they are possibly able and ingrain in you a sense that you are a bad person and then somewhere down the line you are unable to find the connection between that lesson and you not being able to assign any blame for anything to your religion... because you are taught that YOU are the monster and not your religion or church. Its disgustingly en genius.
I do not believe this is the result of my religion. Look at all the people who never had any kind of religion at. They still do right and wrong. It is engrained in us. I do not feel I am bad person or monster due to my religion. In fact just the opposite. All relgion is to me is path. Again I do not worship my religion. I use my religion as a road map, and sometimes I take detours.

So, to the main question: Mystery, when you learn that your religion is inspired and run by satan will you have what it takes to give it up? Or are you a pathetic addict?

IF I were to find out my specific religion was Satan inspried and had solid proof from God, then of course I would stop that religion. But it isn't. Humans are, they twisted religon to suit there own needs. I follow my heart. Just cuz I belong to a certain religion does not mean I follow every single thing. And many are like this. There are few that follow all to the tee. And how in the world could any of this make me a pathetic attict? Are you insintuating religion is addictive? I guess it can seem the way for some.

[Sweetwilliam]

True LOVE is not filled with hate stuiped.
1 Yahchanan ( John ) 3:5.


SweetWilliam

[The Wicked Priest]

Hey stupied have you not read Luke 24:25?
If you are so dumb as to even speak these words you are a FOOL!
Now that you know what I think of your ignorance and that you are a FOOL may I ask why you still post on this form?


SweetWilliam


True LOVE is not filled with hate stuiped.
1 Yahchanan ( John ) 3:5.


SweetWilliam Before you can call someone stupid, you must spell it correctly. In one thread you have misspelled it two different ways. Two wrongs don't make a right.:deal:

True love isn't filled with hate, but you certainly are.

[DontBeAfraid]

Men created religion. All religion is, is a set of beliefs banded together that a group followers, there for in a sense Atheism is a religion. You must remove the definition brainwashed into our heads what religion is.Atheism is not a SET OF BELIEFS and it does not have "followers" It is a SINGLE statement of non-belief and the one very telling sign that it has not "following" in the same way as actual religions is that there are no politicians pandering to the atheist populations.

[Mystery]

Welll whatever. Who cares. Irregardless, if one is an athiest why do they even care if someone believes in religion or not? I do not care if someone is an athiest nor try to put ideas into their head of why they are wrong. My best friend is an ahtiest actually.

[Nu Kua]

True LOVE is not filled with hate stuiped.
1 Yahchanan ( John ) 3:5.


SweetWilliam

It's so funny when people misspell the word "stupid", especially when they are dissing another person for their beliefs by calling them "stupid".


But even more ironically, you are preaching to someone that true love is not filled with hate, yet in many of your threads you are very disparaging and hateful to those who do not agree with your brand of religion. So what then could you possibly know of true love?

[Godsgifttomankind]

Hello DontBeAfraid and thank-you for quashing an obvious statement,


Atheism is not a SET OF BELIEFS and it does not have "followers" It is a SINGLE statement of non-belief and the one very telling sign that it has not "following" in the same way as actual religions is that there are no politicians pandering to the atheist populations.

What do you make of men like Peter Stark then?

[lycanox]

There was once a god that god a little son named Jesus. Nothing bad happened and everybody lived happily until the end of time.

Wouldn't a religion that isn't inspired by evil be pretty meaningless?

[DontBeAfraid]

if one is an athiest why do they even care if someone believes in religion or not?I couldnt tell you. There is a plethora of reasons why humans do what humans do.


What do you make of men like Peter Stark then?I dont know who this person is... An atheist I suppose? Perhaps he is trying to form some sort of atheist lobby so that the atheists might get a little bit of pandering from washington?

[Mystery]

quoted by mystery
Men created religion. All religion is, is a set of beliefs banded together that a group followers, there for in a sense Atheism is a religion. You must remove the definition brainwashed into our heads what religion is.



Ok I did a little research, and though I do not get it, I do see it would not be considered a religion. I think it is religious people portraiting as so. And I would suppose from that point, there are many misconceptions of what athiesm is.

[Jake99]

There was once a god that god a little son named Jesus. Nothing bad happened and everybody lived happily until the end of time.

Wouldn't a religion that isn't inspired by evil be pretty meaningless?

There once was a God who had a little son named James and James understood the big picture and turned the world upside down and fixed every problem that crossed his path like magic. When he played it was if he and his siblings had wings, power, agility and speed like no others. He refused to be brainwashed in public school and demonstrated superior leadership and overall abilities everywhere he went.

He protested and demonstrated to the extremes even as a child and fought and won many wars with many leaders, institutions and judges. Unbeatable in court on any subject matter with a record of 350 miraculous and wonderous works in life. Organizing walk outs at jr high and involved in anti war protests almost daily at the U of Buffalo as a 14 year old.

He won every individual athletic contest in school until he was 14 when he refused to attend physical education classes any further so as to hide his abilities which had drawn alot of attention.

They called him Captain Murph at Amherst central high school and painted his name like he was god on the school walls. "Captain Murph rules" was the slogan, no wonder the school wanted him off the grounds and agreed to give him a selective condensed education. They too were afraid he would turn the education system upside down, which he did anyway by way of demonstration of better ways just to prove a point.

The U.S. Marines put more faith in his abilities than any non war time enlisted man in all of time, they offered him the first Harrier squadron and made him the night shift ordnance and arming supervisor. Many Marines recommended him to be the Commandant at 20 years old. He played quarterback, wide reciever and strong side cornerback for the squadron touch football team where he led the league in scoring. He was only in the Marines 4 years and was court martialed twice for communicating threats against those who threatened him. He won in court both times which is unheard of in military law where your rights to a defense are limited.

The unions he worked with said he should be the president of ITT or the U.S. but he is different and does not want what Satan offers to give him but rather what Satan wants to keep.

The 4 or 5 company Vs another company or union softball games were when he came out of hiding and put on a show like you will never see on TV. Gigantic home runs, unheard of speed, diving catches and a rocket arm.

It is not the people who are to blame it is the lack of unity and the system of brotherhood that is missing that only the Messiah can bring. All the religions will turn into one religion and worship will be done with good works and personal thoughts not church attendence and bible study.

He smashed all the Jack o Lanterns within 10 blocks and started all the leaf fires in the streets in protest of Halloween every year when he was a teenager.

And when he stands accused in court and offered a deal he motions for the unconditional surrender of the judicial system as the only deal he will accept and stands on the merits of his actions with his life in the balance.

He walks on water and turns it into wine, gets down off the cross that mankind nailed him to and tells the world that it is from his body they are fed forever and from his blood they are to be quenched of thirst.

[Sweetwilliam]

Before you can call someone stupid, you must spell it correctly. In one thread you have misspelled it two different ways. Two wrongs don't make a right.:deal:

True love isn't filled with hate, but you certainly are.



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If you are stupid it matter very little if I spelled it right or wrong.

[The Wicked Priest]

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If you are stupid it matter very little if I spelled it right or wrong.

According to this post, sentence structure doesn't matter either.

[Nu Kua]

Hey dumas apparently you do not underatand smatr people can't spell!

All jokes aside, I actually do understand that, but I wouldn't use the word "smarter"; maybe it is the type of mind... because my birth-mom is an absolute genius, really she is, but she can't spell worth a flip. I wonder if it is because spelling often seems to defy the laws of logic. (she is very good at math)

I do not know if you are a genius or not, Sweetwilliam, but I do know you are arrogant and often hatefully dismissive of other peoples points of view, without even giving them a listen. Yet, you then turn around and speak of true love not being filled by hate...?
That is what you should have been teased you for, not your spelling.

[weederbro]

I think that Sweetwilliam MIGHT be mis-spelling on purpose as a kind of rebuff. Kinda like when the Judaistic teachers mis-pronounced the names of the gods of the pantheons?

Although he has exposed some very pertinent evidence pertaining to names and titles, I suspect that Sweetwilliam would ask you (perhaps REQUIRE) you, to follow on IN the LAW as before. Perhaps he would require you to keep the Sabbath (Fri-Sat) be circumcised and observe certain festivals?
Yeah, he sounds like he hates something.....

[Sweetwilliam]

Since sin is breaking the LAW as weeder so well stated.
Sin has its wages and no one needs to pay that high a price. Romans 6:23.
Yet some will because they love sin more that life.



SweetWilliam

[Jake99]

Its a sin to divide the land and draw lines on the map but people do it everyday like its ok. I think that is Satan inspired and the churches say nothing about it.

[Sweetwilliam]

Careful your answer will tell which side you are on.



SweetWilliam

[Jake99]

I do not know anything about the Torah. My few laws would be based on logic and the instruction that I would have to treat everyone as I would myself. They are also to protect the land and use it wisely.

I can tell you for sure I am not on the side of the U.S. Government because they endorse moneychangers, possession of land, military force, false profits, gambling and salesman.

[Freddy]

Since sin is breaking the LAW as weeder so well stated.
Sin has its wages and no one needs to pay that high a price. Romans 6:23.
Yet some will because they love sin more that life.



SweetWilliam

Which day is the Christian Sabbath? Is it Sunday, the first day of the week or is it Friday sundown to Saturday sundown?

[Jake99]

People are so decieved as to think that any day of any week is more special than the others. There was never to be a holiday named after anyone or anything, but days of rest are required. Mankind worships false gods and build statues of warriors while polluting the world out of existence with greed, garbage and guns. Christmas and the other holidays were invented by Satan, the moneychangers and salesman that Jesus and I stand against. I cannot think of anything more disrespectful to god than the Christmas holiday which keeps the messiahs ememies in business. Go ahead generate more trash and sweep it under the dirt while promoting consumer spending and see just how bad the planet gets under that idiotic direction. Saturday sundown Tuesday noon who cares its all bull crap. Wake up Christians and practice what you preach before it is too late to save this planet from your evil ways. The fruit cakes in the pretty hats and jeweled dresses are not the truth or the way.

[Crimepunisher]

Christmas and the other holidays were invented by Satan,
I wouldn't say that, to the best of my knowledge it was made from bought-off Pagan traditions and placed on the date where several Pagan religions celebrated the birth or life of a respected deity. And then Catholicism decided Jesus pwns Pagans and planted Christmas on December 25th.

[Sweetwilliam]

I do not know anything about the Torah. My few laws would be based on logic and the instruction that I would have to treat everyone as I would myself. They are also to protect the land and use it wisely.

I can tell you for sure I am not on the side of the U.S. Government because they endorse moneychangers, possession of land, military force, false profits, gambling and salesman.
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Jake99

I would be the first to agree that all this worlds evil goverments are filled with corruption to the core.
Since you say you know nothing about the Torah. Your reasoning is not coming from the Creator.
No matter what you think of yourself and who you believe yourself to be you are just as deceived as the Baptist pearcher boy down the street.
All truth and true knowledge comes from Father Yahweh.
His Laws and the prophets that wrote them down for us are truth and nothing else comes close.
You must not do much reading in the Proverbes.
May I quote one verse here?
Proverbs 1: 7 The reverence of Yahweh is the beginning; of knowledge........
So, what does it mean to reverence Father Yahweh?
Proverbs 3: 7 Do not be wise in your own eyes; reverence Yahweh by turning entirely away from evil.

Now the world you offer to lead...does it include teaching those wondeful Laws written by the prophets in the Torah?

If not then you are and enemy of the Faith that was once delivered to the true saints.

By the way Jake99 Have I become your enemy just because I tell you the truth?


Swetwilliam

[Jake99]

The Torah, which I have never read and the Bible were written by men of centuries ago with no special talents who told of stories about men of special talent and knowledge. Get your knowledge from the most special man who got his knowledge from Yahweh and demonstrated that he was the truth and the way the books attempt to describe. No man or woman in all of time could do the things I have already done. You did not know that it was a competition so you fell asleep and I won almost every time at nearly everything mankind does.

Why is it you believe in men you never met from ancient times who told basically the same story and not the man they were writting about in the flesh? You cannot prove even one thing in the bible and yet I can prove everything I say because it is heavily documented as the truth and the way and these are obviously the end times.

All the religious books say the same things in different ways so that when the messiah comes he can reveal the simplicity of the will of Yahweh or by what ever name you call him. The messiah's name will not be Jesus that would be stupidity, how could you sneak up on Satan's world and declare checkmate with that brand on your forehead?

If mankind cannot understand the moneychangers, salesman, wolves in sheep's clothing, liars, cheaters, thieves, no lines on the map, no dividing the land concept then you are totally asleep and or extremely defiant to Yahweh. Mankind wont even discuss the most important messages in the bible because they dont like the rules in the kingdom of heaven on earth. All of mankind falls into the catagory of enemy of Yahweh and yet he still loves you more than even his only begotten son who he sends to take away the sins of the world with a simple governing system outlined in the bible that mankind has always stood against.

Wake up, all of you are asleep and Satan wants to keep you that way so he tells you to reject the messiah just like he did the last time god sent a messenger and a warrior that was designed to get his foot on Satan's head in a court of law and then proceed to push Satan into the abyss by gaining the support of the believers and the sinners.

Satan wants mankind to worship his ways and he rules the world along with the Anti Christs when the meek are to inherit the earth and mankind has not even identified who the meek are yet.