UFO Real or Fake?

[Kouga-Kun]

Sorry if this has been said already I am new here and this is my first post anyway, Do you think UFO's are real and life on other planets? I think its a possiblility but very very low, it woudl be cool if there were but if there wasnt it would be preety boring. I dont believe in evolution (sorry). Also if they were I know our race is extreamely violent and cruel, but if they offered peace and so on do you think theyw would help us find cures for diseases and so on, or if they didnt come in peace would we even stand a chance, and even if we did most likely our world governments wouldnt agree on each other right? Well thats it for now I may have more questions later thanx in advance

[Treehugginhippy]

Ufo's eh? Well it would be cool if they did exist. I think there must be aliens out there somewhere, because life supposedly came from an asteroid, which is a broken up planet or something right? So where did the other bits of it go? What other planets might it have populated? And if other worlds were impacted on first, they could be ahead technologically to us, and could be flying around looking at us or something. I don't know why they bother though. :crazy:

[Zakroyd]

:toast: I should hope that when we look up as long as we are outside of our homes with no tree's or obstacles in our way that we would see the brilliance of all the stars. We have made so many advances over the last 100 years and it seems that our future holds many more. We as a people have talked about living on Mars or the Moon, so anyone that would be born there would be alien to us. That is very possible in the near future. That is not a higher being doing the creating of civilizations or populations it is us. Yet we have trouble solving the commen cold. So back to the beginning, when you look up at the worlds above and think of all we have done in such a short time and look at the endless time-line that lays between the stars we can only as an intelligent species know in our lives that we are not :chopper: alone. You then ask yourself what would an alien look like, how would it act, could it help us. It could be anything that is living out there in space. It more than likely could not live on our planet without help, just like we could not be in space. The only ways in which they ( if there is more than one ) could help us would be to give us a better understanding of life and the developement of it. If they are like the hollywood generated aliens that could help us with building spaceships etc. If they did that we would have to create a trade agreement with their galaxy so we could get fuel because I'm sure it is not here on Earth.....hmmm maybe it is , that is why they visit us :D

[Red Shift]

Interesting last point there. Aliens stealing our stock of space fuel! :D

Knowing us, its probably grass that powers "warp Drives" or what ever the aliens use.

PS- does anyone else find themselfs calling the aliens extra terrestrials?

I think i do this because of what Holywood has done to the word aliens!

[VegasRonin]

Just a passing thought. There's a group of activists, there are several lawyers and even a congressman in this group. They've compiled a case for the existence of aliens on Earth, and the subsequent Govt. cover-up. They believe that if they had as much evidence in a murder trial, then they could probably get the Death Penalty as a sentence for the accused. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

[Treehugginhippy]

That why I'm not sure the death penalty should be in place, they moight be executing lots of criminlas, but how many are in fact innocent? Sorry, off topic :D As to ufo's exsisting, why not?

[Bigsky770]

How much ya wanna bet that's us buzzin' 'em with our latest tech? :thumbs:


'UFOs sighted' over Iran
April 16, 2004


Residents of northern Iran have reported a string of Unidentified Flying Objects moving at low altitudes and emitting different colours, the state news agency reported.

A resident of the northwestern city of Tabriz, Saina Haghkish, was quoted as saying she saw one object flashing red, green and blue moving slowly from the east to west late yesterday.

Identical sightings were also reported on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday over the northeastern town of Ghonbad-Kavous, situated on the opposite southeastern edge of the Caspian Sea.

But astronomy professor Ajab Shirizadeh told the state news agency, IRNA, that while the presence over the Islamic republic of extra-planetary craft could not be ruled out, the sightings could also be attributed to spy or communications satellites.

AFP

- - -Submitted by Joe (Bigsky770)

[prezhorusin04]

dANG jOE! You just beat me to this story!! :D
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=scienceNews&storyID=4972914&section=news
Sure is interesting huh??!!?!

[prezhorusin04]

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He said what people reported was consistent with the planet Venus, whose intense light in its current position would be given different hues by being filtered through the atmosphere.
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www.geocities.com/triple-moon/articles/venusfig.html
www.bradshawfoundation.com/latest-chauvet.html
jblstatue.com/pages/venus.html
www.hominids.com/donsmaps/venus.html#ukrainevenus
www.mc.maricopa.edu/dept/d10/asb/anthro2003/legacy/paleolithic/greatleap/venus.html

[prezhorusin04]

Venus worship has been a running theme throughout all ages of man, and these secret societies (and religions). -Venus was the virgin goddess Inana in Sumeria at 5000BC. Isis was the Egyptian virgin associated with Venus. In Babylon Ishtar was a virgin goddess associated with Venus. Artemis and Aprodite were associated with Venus..The "Christ like" mexican savior god Quetzelcoatle was said to be "born of Venus." The Virgin Mary, like Ishtar and Isis, was known as "Stella Maris" the Star of the Sea (Venus).
Venus is THE MORNING STAR, and is associated with both Christ and Lucifer.

Revelations states:
"And those who keep my works unto the end, to him shall i give the power over nations. To him i will give the morning star." -VENUS..

These insane inbred cavemen are in love with the "goddess" of Venus, thinking themselves to be Mars, the savior god of WAR..--Last year Mars was closer then it's been in 60,000 years. This year, VENUS is closer then it's been in a VERY long time..The Earth, Gaia/Ea, the ocean mother, is THE WOMB for the union of the goddess Mars and Venus, and these power mad dictators believe themselves to be the spawn of this "immaculate conception.".

They are sick tricksters who believe themselves to be "divine space men" and "gods from other dimensions"..They are a glitch in the program, not us..

[prezhorusin04]

Ronald Reagan spoke out numerous times about the UFO issue. During a December 4, 1985 speech at the Fallston High School in Maryland, where he spoke about his summit with Russian head Mikhal Gorbachev in Geneva: “Think how easy his task and mine might be in these
meetings that we held if suddenly there was a threat to this world from some other planet outside in the universe. We’d forget all the little local differences that we have between our countries...” Gorbachev himself later confirmed during an important speech on February 17,
1987, in the Grand Kremlin Palace in Moscow: "At our meeting in Geneva, the U.S. President said that if the earth faced an invasion by extraterrestials, the United States and the Soviet Union would join forces to repel such an invasion. I shall not dispute the hypothesis, though I think it's early yet to worry about such an intrusion..."
Reagan again by including the "alien threat" not in a domestic speech but to a full session of the General Assembly of the United Nations. Towards the end of his speech on September 21, 1987, the President said that, "in our obsession with antagonisms of the moment,
we often forget how much unites all the members of humanity. Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make us recognize this common bond...I occasionally think how quickly our
differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world.And yet, I ask ,is not an alien force ALREADY among us?"
Reagan again comments on the alien presence when asked the question at an assembly:
“What do you consider to be the most important need in international relations?” Where the President then remarked: “I’ve often wondered, what if all of us in the world discovered that we were threatened by a power from outer space from another planet...The citizens of the world
would come together to fight that particular threat...” Reagan, early in his career, also told radio host Steve Allen that he and his wife Nancy had “seen a UFO along the coast on their way to the
broadcast.” Both President Reagan and Jimmy Carter spoke out on the UFO issue during their terms, but nothing was ever answered. Only more questions were raised.
According to USA Today and other newspapers, Henry Kissinger, in an address to the Bilderbergers meeting at Evian, France on 21 May 1992, stated: "Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all the peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing that every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."
Last decade The New York Daily News ran a story on 85-year-old billionaire philanthropist Laurence Rockefeller who is funding a special report on UFOs to be sent to President Clinton and other world leaders. Rockefeller family names pop up again and again when speaking on the subjects of UFO’s, aliens and genetic manipulation. The Rockefellers were
a huge proponent of the early Eugenics movement which forceably sterilized tens of thousands of Americans. The Rockefellers also have extremely close ties to the Skull and Bones society, The Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations as well as the Bohemian Grove. "Rockefeller has been pressing the Clinton administration to open the government's UFO files,"
the Daily News notes. Certainly, there's no doubt that the Rockefellers represent one of the world's wealthiest and most influential dynasties in terms of business and politics.
Consider these remarks by investigative author Malachi Martin in The Keys of This Blood. He states: "Television commentator Bill Moyers found out during a fifteen-day, globe spanning trip in the company of David Rockefeller that 'just about a dozen or fifteen individuals made
day-to-day decisions that regulated the flow of capital and goods throughout the entire world.'"
And Bill Moyers later stated himself that: "David Rockefeller is the most conspicuous representative today of the ruling class, a multinational fraternity of men who shape the global economy and manage the flow of its capital. Rockefeller was born to it, and he has made the most of it. But what some critics see as a vast international conspiracy, he considers a
circumstance of life and just another day's work... In the world of David Rockefeller it's hard to tell where business ends and politics begins

[Bigsky770]

. . .I remember those statements from Ronald Reagan. And think about it, who could argue that? IF something like an 'alien invasion' were to ever happen (as fanciful and wild as it seems) I really do believe all of our differences would be as nothing. . . What choice would we have?

Joe (Bigsky770) :thumbs:

[Kohler]

. . .I remember those statements from Ronald Reagan. And think about it, who could argue that? IF something like an 'alien invasion' were to ever happen (as fanciful and wild as it seems) I really do believe all of our differences would be as nothing. . . What choice would we have?

Joe (Bigsky770) :thumbs:

What if the terrorists are aliens in disguise :pyth: