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Beatnik Bob
Aug 19th, 2008, 8:16 PM
Ive started to notice how China generally wins a competition that is being "judged" as apposed to a competition like, say, b-ball, where the team with the most hoops clearly wins.
It seems like the judges in China are payed off or something. I noticed it when one of China's gymnasts almost fell over, and was an extremely poor gymnast, yet was voted for a gold metal. That vote was changed because the chinese competitor was clearly disqualifyable.
But then I noticed how Nastia Liuken (last name sp) only won silver against an adequate chinese rival gymnast, but clearly not as good, by no means.
I really felt bad for Nastia when that 6 year old stole her metal with mediocre skills. :grind:
Which is another suspicious subject. China claims the competitor was 16 (the required age, at leaste), but was clearly an elementary student, from the way she smiled, to the way she looked. :yikes:
Im simply wondering about china's fairly obvious cheating techniques. :hater:
Ideas? :dunno:
phedrereine
Aug 20th, 2008, 12:59 AM
As far as gymnastics goes, it's the scoring system that's corrupt. They replaced the old perfect 10 system with something they thought was less flawed and made it, in fact, more flawed.
As for the situation with the judges themselves, it's a Catch-22: for the events where athletes representing big powers are competing, judges from unusual countries are chosen so that there's no bias. But these judges aren't as experienced or astute.
And yeah, there have been some frustrating moments. The Uneven Bars was completely preposterous. That girl shouldn't even have tied with Nastia in the first place. Their start values didn't vary much, and the other girl wobbled a few times and took a step on her landing. Nastia was nearly perfect.
Another incident was on the vault. Oksana Chusovitina should have won gold. The girl who won, from North Korea, stepped out on both landings and Cheng Fei, who took bronze, landed on her knees on one landing and didn't even place her hands correctly on the vault. Alicia Sacramone landed with little hops and placed fourth. Supposedly the other girls began with higher start values because they had more difficulty, but it seems strange that those bad landings could still win medals. To me, a vault shouldn't be considered more difficult when it's not carried out successfully.
All in all, though, Nastia won 5 medals, and the U.S. collectively won more medals than China did, in gymnastics and on a whole. So there you go. China can't be manipulating things too much.
As for the girls' questionable age.. yeah, that's quite the issue. I'm more disturbed by the fact that they're snatched from their families at 3 and taken away to boarding schools to train. China has won the most gold medals, but not by a large margin. The system clearly doesn't work well. Even if these girls win gold medals, how does that make up for only seeing their families once a year all throughout their childhoods? It's not worth it at all. Except that the families of the athletes who win are paid millions by the government and given houses. I feel like the families are selling their children..
iulian28ti
Aug 20th, 2008, 2:41 AM
I'll quote someone...
Fake products (we know just how much they produce)
Fake weather ("Chinese officials ordered the shutting down of virtually all manufacturing plants, coal-fired power plants, and automobiles. They've basically shut down Beijing to create the impression that it's a clean city, and when there's still smog, they just call it, "mist.")
Fake girl, fake fireworks, fake jury...
Fake ages... ("The Chinese gymnastics team won gold, helped in part by a tiny gymnast who, according to China's own media, was 13 years old just nine months ago. Amazingly, she is now 16 years old, which just happens to be the minimum age to compete in the Olympics.")
read some more http://www.naturalnews.com/023862.html
also, here are the medals per country http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Summer_Olympics_medal_table
playmaker88
Aug 20th, 2008, 10:11 AM
Oh dear, has someone won more Golds than the USA? They must be cheating (but not necessarily in a Marion Jones, Flo-Jo sense).
Assassin X
Aug 20th, 2008, 11:39 AM
Everyone knows:
1. China has underage athletes.
2. China gets higher scores in some things/wins because for <insert reason>.
That incident where both girls were tied with gold medals but they said the chinese girl gets it instead was shit. Everyone knows the chinese girl was worse by far. She made tons of visible mistakes in her stuff. Yet ours made none almost. Yet she get chosen. Yep no bias.
iulian28ti
Aug 20th, 2008, 2:37 PM
China also has underage prostitutes.
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