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MR.G
May 8th, 2004, 2:06 PM
My apologies if this was posted earlier. I haven't been here very long and it may have been put up before.

Geneticists have known for some time that at some point in our recent history the human population was drastically reduced. Our gene pool was reduced down to as few as under 2000 individuals. How we survived is astounding but like a small colony of bacteria we did.

This illustrates how susceptible the human race is to super volcanoes because this near extinction event corresponds to the eruption of TABO.




FROM THE BBC:
Humans may have come close to extinction about 70,000 years ago, according to the latest genetic research.

The study suggests that at one point there may have been only 2,000 individuals alive as our species teetered on the brink.

This means that, for a while, humanity was in a perilous state, vulnerable to disease, environmental disasters and conflict. If any of these factors had turned against us, we would not be here.

The research also suggests that humans (Homo sapiens sapiens) made their first journey out of Africa as recently as 70,000 years ago.

Unlike our close genetic relatives - chimps - all humans have virtually identical DNA. In fact, one group of chimps can have more genetic diversity than all of the six billion humans alive today.

It is thought we spilt from a common ancestor with chimps 5-6 million years ago, more than enough time for substantial genetic differences to develop.

The absence of those differences suggests to some researchers that the human gene pool was reduced to a small size in the recent past, thereby wiping out genetic variation between current populations.

Evidence for that view is published in the American Journal of Human Genetics.

Because all humans have virtually identical DNA, geneticists look for subtle differences between populations.

One method involves looking at so-called microsatellites - short, repetitive segments of DNA that differ between populations.

These microsatellites have a high mutation, or error, rate as they are passed from generation to generation, making them a useful tool to study when two populations diverged.

Researchers from Stanford University, US, and the Russian Academy of Sciences compared 377 microsatellite markers in DNA collected from 52 regions around the world.

Analysis revealed a close genetic kinship between two hunter-gatherer populations in sub-Saharan Africa - the Mbuti pygmies of the Congo Basin and the Khosian bushmen of Botswana.

The researchers believe that they are "the oldest branch of modern humans studied here".

The data also reveals that the separation between the hunter-gatherer populations and farmers in Africa occurred between 70,000 and 140,000 years ago. Modern man's migration out of Africa would have occurred after this.

An earlier genetic study - involving the Y chromosomes of more than 1,000 men from 21 populations - concluded that the first human migration from Africa may have occurred about 66,000 years ago.

The small genetic diversity of modern humans indicates that at some stage during the last 100,000 years, the human population dwindled to a very low level.

It was out of this small population, with its consequent limited genetic diversity, that today's humans descended.

Estimates of how small the human population became vary but 2,000 is the figure suggested in the latest research.

"This estimate does not preclude the presence of other populations of Homo sapiens sapiens (modern man) in Africa, although it suggests that they were probably isolated from each other genetically," they say.

The authors of the study believe that contemporary worldwide populations descended from one or very few of these populations.

If this is the case, humanity came very close to extinction.

Sirius
May 8th, 2004, 2:33 PM
I do remember watching something on the discovery channel about how much more diverse our dna should, and when they did the test, it showed that at some point in history that the world population was extre,ely low.

There was a show on the discovery channel also about supervolcanos, and they said when the last one exploded 70,000 years ago, it dropped the world population down to a few thousand people.

VegasRonin
May 8th, 2004, 7:05 PM
Saw the same show Sirius.

MR.G
May 9th, 2004, 1:16 AM
THE question is, I suppose : Would we, as a race, fare better this time around?

I doubt it.


Evidence shows a minimum of 6 YEARS of volcanic "winter" the last time it happened. If - IF - another SV were to blow and we were faced with 6 years of frozen ground, no crops, frozen waters (no hydro), frozen livestock - no cheeseburgers - how would the human race survive? Would the bunkered survivors be over-run by starving masses? How long AFTER the "winter" would trees, grass and crops be able to germinate again? The next year? Two? Five? ... that's AFTER the six of darkness and cold. Would the bugs come back? Would bee hives unfreeze or something because without the bugs the crops ain't gonna germinate by themselves. Even IF there were survivors after 6 (what if the eruption was WORSE than TABO?) or 10 YEARS it might be THOUSANDS of years - maybe millions before the natural balance of nature returned.

Can I see a show of hands? WTF would want to survive?

I'm moving to Idaho!

:bye:

Sirius
May 9th, 2004, 7:38 AM
Survival is a basic instinct, and I for one would do everything humanly possible to survive.