Bible Codes...

[midnightsonblaze]

I know this has probably been discussed before...but I was able to catch a nice program on the History channel about this. Any truth to this at all? Prophecies being fullfilled? I am curious If I should look more into this.....are the programs that interperate the codes worth purchasing?

[Spartan117x]

hey, i saw the same thing on tv. The bible code holds many prophecies and predictions. People think its fake and some think its real. Its up to decidede for yourself i went to some good sites about this and ill post them later. When i was looking i saw about a whole load of crap that is gonna kill the erath in the next decade so this is concerning me. If any1 finds anything just post the sites.

[MetalMilitia]

Yeah, we have tons of threads that discuss the bible code.

To me, it is complete hogwash. Notice we can't accurately PREDICT anything BEFORE it happens, but rather we wait until it DOES happen, then go in the book and find some vague reference to it and say "THERE IT IS, I TOLD YOU." Take September 11th for example, no one predicted it even though they had hundreds of professional 'bible code' researchers... but on September 12th and 13th they started to look for it... and guess what, they found it.

There are even studies that show books like 'Moby Dick' contain 'code' in them... I believe someone went through the Moby Dick and found references to Princess Diana and some terrorist attacks, so I'm very skeptical to all of it.

Point is, if you want to see something so badly, that even if it isn't there, you will coax yourself into believing that it is.

-MM- :crs:

[MR.G]

My understanding of the "Bible Codes" is a way of scanning verse after verse with a computer and being able to come up with a consistant ref to present day dates.

Trouble is there is no consistant program to do this. Everybody is using a different code sequencing so there is no chance that any of these messages that MAY be in there are ever going to come out, come out correctly or come out reading the same by two or more seperate researchers.

You'll notice on many of the Bible Code web sites all they've done is scramble the letters and look for words that come together like one of those kiddies' puzzles in the Sunday Comics. If THAT is how they claim to be discovering our future then I'll stick with Monti Python's version ... :pyth:

[Doomer]

This is all a bunch of bunk that's designed to separate fools from their money. Just like the Sunday morning collection plate. :(

[MR.G]

"Just like the Sunday morning collection plate."

I disagree completely.

The collection plate is to buy condoms for the priests so the choir boys don't catch AIDS too. :devsmoke:

[hallucinated]

www.exodus2006.com

This site has had predictions that came true, as well as more predictions yet to come true. Nobody takes it seriously. Everyone says that the you can do the matrices thing with all books, and I agree with that; but there was research done about this and the chances in normal books was 19%, whereas in the Bible it was an astonishing 60%. =\

[Zyztem]

Being the semi-skeptical ( I prefer open-minded) person that I am, I have done a little amateur research into this as well. One thing that most debunkers don't mention is context. Many of the decoded "messages" are in very close proximity to other phrases that fit contextually. Of course, being deciphered after the fact helps! Apparently, mathmeticians have figured the odds of that at around 10,000 to one.
Also, a former NSA cryptographer has done some independent research that had to do with picking 32 names from some rabbinical text and trying to "decode" them. In very close proximity to their names were there birth dates and if I recall correctly, their death dates as well.
Couldn't really provide a link, but if you Google for NSA and bible code, you'll probably find it easy enough.

[MR.G]

Some poor NSA researcher named Charles Brown is trying to bunk the Bible codes and the computer spits out " Charles Brown Born 20 Oct 1956 - Died (horribly) 16 July 2004"

So can these guys dig up Lottery numbers too or where Nortel is headed???

:deal:

[Red Shift]

Yeah, we have tons of threads that discuss the bible code.

To me, it is complete hogwash. Notice we can't accurately PREDICT anything BEFORE it happens, but rather we wait until it DOES happen, then go in the book and find some vague reference to it and say "THERE IT IS, I TOLD YOU." Take September 11th for example, no one predicted it even though they had hundreds of professional 'bible code' researchers... but on September 12th and 13th they started to look for it... and guess what, they found it.

There are even studies that show books like 'Moby Dick' contain 'code' in them... I believe someone went through the Moby Dick and found references to Princess Diana and some terrorist attacks, so I'm very skeptical to all of it.

Point is, if you want to see something so badly, that even if it isn't there, you will coax yourself into believing that it is.

-MM- :crs:

I have to agree with MM here, it seems you can find anything if you look hard enough for it, the bible codes are more of a post prediction sort of thing, find it all after it has happened showing (in my eyes) that there are no codes, or there are that many codes that only perhaps one in one hundred could acctually happen!

[stewey]

I also agree with MM here totally.

[nowlive]

I think that it could be seen either way. In the Bible it is said that man received the words of God and wrote them down as they were, without spaces or and kind of punctuation (and often were written without much sense, as well). So a book i read said that it put the entire bible into a program and, well, they found enough proof to make a book about it. The codes were astonishing, and they did find some things to prophesize the future over. Unfortunately, they also threw a phone book into that shit and came out with a lot of facts about the past and some prophecies, as well. I skimmed over a few details about the probabilty of it, too...but i'm sure it will all fit the one and only thing that anyone can ****ing trust...the allmighty bellcurve!

[stewey]

I think that it could be seen either way. In the Bible it is said that man received the words of God and wrote them down as they were, without spaces or and kind of punctuation (and often were written without much sense, as well). So a book i read said that it put the entire bible into a program and, well, they found enough proof to make a book about it. The codes were astonishing, and they did find some things to prophesize the future over. Unfortunately, they also threw a phone book into that shit and came out with a lot of facts about the past and some prophecies, as well. I skimmed over a few details about the probabilty of it, too...but i'm sure it will all fit the one and only thing that anyone can ****ing trust...the allmighty bellcurve!

Well, the Bible has been translated and written so many times that it has been reworded several times. I would not trust any "code" that is "found" in the bible. It is a lot like that telephone game that some people played when they were kids. It seems great at predicting stuff that has already happened, but cannot truely predict worth crap. If you have a book with thousands upon thousands of words, it isn't hard to "decode" anything from it.

[ShadowOfTheNinja]

Hey if the bible codes can predict my future in the next 3 day then you got my vote. :alien:

[VegasRonin]

Year Event Description From The Bible Code

2006: Comet Year predicted for world; Star-like object - Its path struck their dwelling.
2010: Comet Days of horror; - Darkness and gloom. L. A. earthquake.
2012: Comet It will be crumbled. Earth annihilated;
2014: Earthquake Desolated, empty, depopulated; For everyone, the great terror, fire.

[stewey]

I would not take it seriously. The bible has been translated so many times, and reworded so many times, it would be silly to think it has a code to it. Especially when you consider that using patterns you can pretty much pull anything out of any book.

[dutchie]

Here, here.

[dcookcan]

I would not take it seriously. The bible has been translated so many times, and reworded so many times, it would be silly to think it has a code to it. Especially when you consider that using patterns you can pretty much pull anything out of any book.

Actually, the codes are taken from the original Hebrew script - not translations. If you knew anything about how they are copied, you might not make that claim. Every letter, space, dot, and scribble must be copied exaclty the same as the original. There are dots and scribbles in the original text that cannot be translated and the Jews don't have any idea what they mean, but they are still there.
The translations come in with the interpretation of the codes, that is where the questionable content comes from. I don't know about your claims that you can do that with any book, I have not tried it (nor do I care to). I don't believe everything that someone claims just because they are supposedly 'educated'.

Ph.D. = post hole digger

[Over-Mind]

A few years ago, I saw a writer apply the Bible Code Method to other books. One could derive all kinds of words and phrases from Melville's "Moby Dick" for example. With the arsenal of 'code' from Moby Dick, one could pick and choose words and piece together vague prophesies fortelling earthquakes, floods, etc.

Of course I could predict that in 2005, there will be devastating plane crashes, or earthquakes, or killer tornados, or volcanic eruptions. Since such phenomena occur with relative frequency on Earth, of course my 'predictions' might then seem accurate, and I suppose someone wanting to believe that my predictions were correct would have an even greater reason to believe.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not 'bible bashing' here, just trying to deflate false 'prophets' that want us to run to the nearest hilltop at the drop of the hat, or perhaps just sell large quantities of their books. These 'forecasts of armageddon' have been occuring with great regularity for the last 2000 years or more.