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sweetvelocity
Sep 28th, 2009, 6:07 PM
It has not happened in every state, but I am sure that some states have been selling them for a little while longer than they would like to say.

A couple of years ago I started to notice that my cigarettes kinda tasted off. They also gave me terrible sore throats and a nagging feeling of having to clear my throat every 5 minutes. Then 5 months ago I quite coold turkey. I had no idea about FSC until a few months ago after telling my mother the story. She told me about FSC "Fire Safety Compliant" cigarettes.

My throat feels better and, my head feels better. The only thing is that there is no "FSC" lable on any of the cigarettes that I have purchased here in MI. Is it possible that we have been getting FSC treated products and just did not know? Michigan is not to start using FSC treated cigarettes until 2010 or so they say.

I am glad I do not smoke anymore. But if there was "FSC" in any of the cigarettes that I smoked I would have liked it if someone would have told me before I smoked it. I kinda like to make choices for myself. FSC cigarettes have paper treated with called Ethylene Vinyl Acetate. I am not sure what that is, but it causes the cigarette to burn very slow and go out if it has not been used in a few minutes.


I just wanted to tell my story and educate people that smoke that their cigarettes are changing. They will be so nasty you will stop smoking all together.

JenaS62
Sep 28th, 2009, 6:23 PM
I just wanted to tell my story and educate people that smoke that their cigarettes are changing. They will be so nasty you will stop smoking all together.


I sure hope so. I'm a die hard smoker. Have been for 30 years. I tried that new quit smoking pill that just made me feel sick. I tried Wellbutrin at least 10 years ago and it made my ciggs taste really bad but I just kept smoking through it until they tasted normal again. Obviously it did not work. Maybe this will.

Blu-ray
Sep 28th, 2009, 6:32 PM
So you weren't so concerned with these?:




81 Cancer Causing Chemicals Have
So Far Been Identified in Cigarettes


Acetaldehyde Acetamide Acrylamide Acrylonitrile 2-Amino-3,4-dimethyl-3H-imidazo[4,5-f]quinoline (MeIQ) 3-Amino-1,4-dimethyl-5H-pyrido [4,3-b]indole (Trp-P-1) 2-Amino-l-methyl-6-phenyl-1H-imidazo [4,5-b]pyridine (PhlP) 2-Amino-6-methyldipyrido[1,2-a:3',2'-d]imidazole (Glu-P-1) 3-Amino-l-methyl-5H-pyrido {4,3-b]indole (Trp-P-2 2-Amino-3-methyl-9H-pyrido[2,3-b]indole (MeAaC) 2-Amino-9H-pyrido[2,3-b]indole (AaC) 4-Aminobiphenyl 2-Aminodipyrido[1,2-a:3',2'-d]imidazole (Glu-P-2) 0-Anisidine Arsenic Benz[a]anthracene Benzene Benzo[a]pyrene Benzofluoranthene Benzo[j]fluoranthene Benzo[k]fluoranthene Benzofuran Beryllium 1,3-Butadiene Cadmium Catechol (1,2-benzenediol) p-Chloroaniline Chloroform Cobalt p,p'-DDT Dibenz[a,h]acridine Dibenz[a,j]acridine Dibenz(a,h)anthracene 7H-Dibenzo[c,g]carbazole Dibenzo(a,e)pyrene Dibenzo(a,i)pyrene Dibenzo(a,h)pyrene Dibenzo(a,i)pyrene Dibenzo(a,l)pyrene 3,4-Dihydroxycinnamic acid (caffeic acid) Ethylbenzene Ethylene oxide Formaldehyde Furan Glycidol Heptachlor Hydrazine Indeno[1,2,3-cd]pyrene IQ 92-Amino-3-methyl-3H-imidazo[4,5-f]quinoline) Isoprene Lead 5-Methyl-chrysene 2-Naphthylamine Nitrobenzene Nitrogen mustard Nitromethane 2-Nitropropane N-Nitrosodi-n-butylamine (NDBA) N-Nitrosodi-n-propylamine (NDPA) N-Nitrosodiethanolamine (NDELA) N-Nitrosodiethylamine (DEN) N-Nitrosodimethylamine (DMN) N-Nitrosoethylmethylamine (NEMA, MEN) 4-(N-Nitrosomethylamino)-1-(3-pyridinyl)-1-butanone (NNK) N'-Nitrosonornicotine (NNN) N-Nitrosopiperidine (NPIP, NPP) N-Nitrosopyrrolidine (NPYR, NPY) Polonium-210 (Radon 222) Propylene oxide Safrole Styrene Tetrachloroethylene o-Toluidine (2-methylaniline) Trichloroethylene Urethane (carbamic acid, ethyl ester) Vinyl acetate Vinyl chloride 4-Vinylcyclohexene 2,6-Xylidine (2,6-dimethylaniline)
Or how about these?:



[B]Plus 4,000 Extra Chemicals in
Each and Every Puff Including ...


Acenaphthene Acetamide Acridine Acrolein Acrylamide Aluminum Ammonia Anabasine Anatabine Aniline Anodmine Anthanthrene Anthracene Arachidic acid Argon Arsnic Azapyrene Azulene Benzimidazole Beryllium Bipyridyl Butadiene Butane Butylbenzene Caffeic acid Campesterol Caproic acid Caprylic acid Captan Carboline Carbon monoxide Carbon oxysulfide Carotene Catechol Copper Cresol Chrysene Cichoriin Cobalt Collidine Copper Coronene Cotinine Coumarin Crotonaldehyde Cyanogen Cycloartenol Dibenzo Diethyl ketone DDT/Dieldrin Dipentene Ergosterol Esculetin Ethane Ethanol Ethylamine Ethylene Ethylphenois Eugenol Ferulic acid Fluoranthene Fluorene Formic acid Furan Furfural Furoic acid Glutamic acid Glycolic acid Guaiacol Gudham Harman Heptylic acid Hexamine Hydrazine Hydrogen cyanide Hydrogen sulfide Hydrogen thiocyanide Hydroquinone Indole Ionene Iron Isobutane Isobutylene Isobutyraldehyde Isobutyric acid Isoprene Ispropylbenzene Isoquinoline Isosqualene Ketoglutaric acid Lathrein Lauric acid Levantenolide Levulinic acid Limonene Linoleic acid Lohitam Lutidine Magnesium Maleic anhydride Malic acid Malonic acid Mercury Mesitol Methane Methanol Methylamine Methyleugenol Methylglyoxal Myosmine Myristic acid Napthalene Nickel Nicotinamide Nicotinic acid Nicotrine Nicotyrine Nitrobenzene Nitrogen oxides Nitromethane Nonylic acid Nomicotine Nornicotyrine Norphytene Obeline Oleic acid Oxalic acid Palmitic acid Palmitoleic acid Palmitone Perylene Phenanthrene Phenanthridine Phthalic acid Phytadienes Phytol Phytone Picoline Plastoquinone Poikiline Potassium Propane Propionaldehyde Propionic acid Propylbenzene Propylene Pyndine Pyrene Pyridine Pyrrole Pyrrolidine Pyruvic acid Quinoline Quinoxalilne Reductic acid Resin acid Resorcinol Scopoletin Scopolin Socratine Silicon Sitosterol Skatole Sodium Solanesenes Solanone Squalene Stigmasterol Stearic acid Strontium Styrene Thiocyanogen Titanium Toluene Trimethylamine Triphenylene Veleric acid Xylenols ZincOr how about these?:




Plus Almost 700 Tobacco Company
Flavor and Engineering Additives





[B]Each brand contains one or more of the following additives



Acacia gum Acetic acid Acetyl pyrazine Aluminium citrate Acetoin Acetone Acetophenone Acetoxydihydrotheaspirane Acetal Acetyl pyridine Acetyl pyridine Acetyl methyl cellulose Alanine Aconitic acid Alfalfa extract Allyl ionone Alga resinoid Allspice extract Allspice leaf oil Allura Red Allyl hexanoate Aluminium tartrate Aluminium acetate Aluminium carbonate Acetanisole Aluminium oxide Aluminium lactate Aluminium phosphate Almond oil Aluminosilicates Aluminium hydroxide Aluminium trihydroxide Amber oil Ambergris extract Ambrette seed oil Ammonium hydroxide Apple juice Ammonium citrate Ammonium chloride Ammonium carbonate Ambrox Ammonium lactate Ammonium sulphate Ammonium dihydrogen phosphate Amyl acetate Amyl alcohol Amyl benzoate Ammonium tartrate Amyl butyrate Amyl formate Amyl hexanoate2 Amyl cinnamaldehyde Anise star Amyl octanoate2 Amyl phenylacetate Amyl salicylate2 Anethole Amyl valerate Anise and oil Angelica root extract and oil Amyris oil Ammonium acetate Amyl isovalerate Anisyl alcohol Anisole Arachis oil Ascorbic acid para-Anisyl acetate Azorubin Balsam oil Beech tar extract Bay leaf, oil and sweet oil Basil oil Beet juice Bisabolene Black current buds Bentonite Benzaldehyde Benzoic acid Benzyl benzoate Benzoin Benzoin resinoid Benzyl acetate Benzyl alcohol Beeswax Benzyl butyrate Benzyl cinnamate Benzyl formate Bergamot oil Benzyl propionate Benzyl isobutyrate Benzyl phenylacetate Boric acid Bornyl acetate Brilliant Black BN Brilliant Blue FCF Carmel Bitter and sweet Buchu leaf oil Butyl alcohol Borneol Butanedoil Butanol Butylene glycol Butanone Butyl acetate Butyl butyrate Butyl phenyl acetate Butter Butyl isovalerate Butyl undecylenate Butylidenephthalide Cadinene Butyric acid Cajeput oil Butyl pyridine Cananga oil Calcium chloride Calcium citrate Calcium hydroxide Caffeine Calcium acetate Calcium Carbonate Capsicum oleoresin Camphene Calcium lactate Calcium phosphate Calcium tartrate d-Camphor Camphor oil Carbon dioxide Carob bean extract Caramel Caraway oil Cardamon oleoresin Carboxy methyl cellulose Carvacrol Carrot seed oil Caryophyllene Carvomenthenol Carvone Cascarilla oil Caryophyllene oxide Caryophyllene alcohol Castor oil Cassia bark oil Cassia extract Castoreum extract Cocoa Cedarwood oil Cellulose fibre Cedryl acetate Cedrol Cedar leaf oil Cellulose acetate Celery seed extract Chlorophyll Cinnamaldehyde Chamomile flower oil Cellulose alkanoylalkanoates Chocolate Chicory extract Cinnamyl alcohol Dandelion root extract Cinnamic acid Cinnamon leaf oil Cinnamon leaf extract Cinnamyl acetate Cubeb oil Cinnamyl butyrate Cinnamyl cinnamate Cinnamyl isobutyrate Citral Citric acid Citronella oil Cinnamyl isovalerate Citronella Citronellic acid Citronellyl acetate Citronellyl butyrate Citronellol Citronellyl formate Citronellyl isobutyrate Citronellyl phenylacetate Civet absolute Clary sage oil Clove oil Citronellyl propionate Coffee extract Cognac oil Coriander oil Diethylpyrazine Corn oil Corn syrup Corn silk Costus root oil Cumin Cuminaldehyde para-Cymene Cyclamen aldehyde Cypress oil Davana oil Damascone Damascenone Decanal Decanoic acid delta-Decalactone gamma-Decalactone Dextrin Diacetyl Diatomaceous earth Diammonium hydrogen phos. Dibenzyl ether Diethyl sebacate Dihydroactinidiolide Diethyl methyl pyrazine Decenal Cubeb oil Dihydrocoumarin Dimethoxybenzene Deconal Diethyl Malonate Dihydrocarvyl acetate Dehydromenthofurolactone Dodecalactone Dimethylpyrazine Dimethylpyrazine Dimethyltetrahydrobenzofuranone Dill seed oil Furaneol Syringol Benzyl dimethyl carbinyl acetate Elemene Diphenyl ether Dimethyl pyrazine Benzyl dimethyl carbinyl butyrate Ethyl cinnamate Dimethyl phenol Dipotassium succinate Dimethyl cyclopentenolone Elemol Erythrosine Dimethyl pyrazine Methyl-para-tolyl carbinol Estragole Dodecalactone Dimethyl pyridine Dimethyl phenylethyl isobutyrate Ethanol Ethyl acetate Dodecalactone Dimethyl styrene Ethyl acrylate Ethyl benzoate Ethyl butyrate Ethyl-3,5-dimethyl pyrazine Ethyl cellulose Ethyl decanoate Ethyl heptanoate Ethyl hydroxy methyl furanone Ethyl formate Ethyl guaiacol Ethyl hexanoate Ethyl-2,5-dimethyl pyrazine Ethyl lactate Ethyl laurate Ethyl isovalerate Ethyl vinyl acetate copolymer Ethyl maltol Ethyl myristate Ethyl-cyclopentenolone Ethyl hydroxy ethyl cellulose Ethyl nonanoate Ethyl octanoate Ethyl palmitate Ethyl-2-methyl butyrate D-Fenchone Ethyl propionate Ethyl phenylacetate Ethyl octadecanoate Ethyl oleate Ethyl pyridine Ethyl phenol Ethyl-2-methylpyrazine Ethyl salicylate Ethyl valerate Ethyl-10-undecenoate Ethyl phenyl acetate Eucalyptol Ethyl vanillin Eucalyptus oil Eugenyl methyl ether Eugenol Farnesol Fennel sweet oil Formic acid Fenugreek Fructose Apples Geranyl isobutyrate Bananas Blackberries Blackcurrants Geranyl phenyl acetate Dates Fig juice Grape juice Geranyl propionate Pears Pineapples Plums Ginger oil Raisins Raspberry Strawberry Furfuryl thiolformate Geraniol Geranium rose oil Furfural alcohol Furfuryl methyl sulphide Prunes Geranyl acetate Gentian root extract Glycerol-1,2-diacetate Peaches Geranyl acetone Geranyl butyrate Glyceryl triacetate Cherry Geranyl formate Glucose Guaiac gum extract Galbanum oil Genet Geraniol Glycyrrhizin ammoniated Apricots Glycerol Glyoxal Guaiac wood oil Guaiacol Guaiol acetate Guar gum Gum tragacanth Heptanone Heptadienal Heptalactone Hexadecenlactone Heptenal Heptanoic acid Hexanedione gamma-Hexalactone Hexanoic acid Leaf alcohol Hexen-2-al Hex-2-enyl acetate Hexyl acetate Hexyl alcohol Hexenyl acetate Hexyl phenyl acetate Honey Humic acid Hydrochloric acid Hydroxy benzoic acid Hexanal Histidine Hydroxycitronellal Hydrolyzed milk solids Hops oil Hydroxycitronellol Hydroxyisophorone Hydroxybutanoic acid lactone Hyssop oil Isoamyl acetate Isoamyl benzoate Hydroxypropyl cellulose Indigotine Immortelle oil Isoamyl butyrate (p-Hydroxyphenol)butanone Indole alpha-Ionone beta-Ionone Isobutylphenyl acetate Irone Isoamyl alcohol Isobornyl acetate Isoamyl cinnamate Isobutyl acetate Isobutyl alcohol Isobutyl butyrate Isobutyl-3-methoxypyrazine Iron oxides Isobutyraldehyde Isobutyl cinnamate Isobutyl phenethyl alcohol Isophorone Isoamyl octanoate Isoamyl isovalerate Isoamyl phenylacetate Isoeugenol Isobutyric acid 4-Keto isophorone Isoeugenyl methyl ether Isopulegol Isobutyl acetate Isobutyl alcohol Isobutyl cinnamate Isopentane Isoamyl formate Isopropyl alcohol 4-Keto dihydroisophorone Labdanum Octanoic acid Isobornyl acetate Isopropyl myristate Jasmine Lactic acid Isovaleric acid Juniper berry oil Leucine Lavandin oil Lauric aldehyde Kola nut extract Lecithin Lemon oil Lauric acid Lavender oil Licorice Linalool oxide Lemongrass oil Linalyl butyrate Linalool Lime oil Linaloe wood oil Linalyl acetate Limonene Linalyl formate Linalyl isobutyrate Liquid Paraffin BP Lovage oil Longosa oil Locust bean gum Magnesium acetate Mace Magnesium chloride Magnesium carbonate Magnesium hydroxide Maltol Magnesium oxide Magnesium lactate Magnesium phosphate Malic acid Linden flowers Maltodextrin Methoxy benzaldehyde Malt Methyl acetate Magnesium citrate Methoxy cinnamaldehyde Menthol Mate distillate Menthyl isovalerate Mentha-1,8-dien-7-ol Mandarin oil Menthyl acetate Mercaptomenthanone Methoxy cinnamaldehyde Maple syrup Methyl guaiacol Magnesium tartrate Methoxy methyl pyrazine Methyl anisate Methyl anisole Methoxy vinylphenol (para-Methoxyphenyl)propanone Nerolidol Methyl cellulose Methyl acetophenone alpha-Methyl benzyl acetate Nerol Methyl cinnamate Methyl butyraldehyde Methyl benzyl alcohol Mimosa Methyl butyric acid Methyl butyraldehyde Methyl cyclopentenolone Myrcene Methyl linoleate Methyl ethyl ketone Methyl-3,5-heptadienone Mint oil Methyl linolenate Methyl heptanoic acid Methyl hydroxy ethyl cellulose Mate leaf Methyl mercaptan Methyl hexanoic acid Methyl hydroxy propyl cellulose Mandarin oil Methyl thiosilvane Methyl pentanoic acid Methyl-beta-naphthylketone Musk pod Methyl sulphide Methyl quinoxaline Methyl-1-cyclopentadecanone Jasmone Mullein flowers Methyl undecanal Methyl-hept-5-en-2-one Methone Wild mint oil Garden mint oil Methyl-4-phenyl butyraldehyde Maltodextrin Methyl pyrazine Methyl salicylate Methyl-2-pyrrolyl ketone Molasses Musk ketone Methyl phenyl acetate Naphthyl methyl ether Myrrh Methyl furfural Methyl isovalerate Naphthyl ethyl ether Neroli oil Nonadien-1-ol Methyl benzoate gamma-Nonalactone Mountain maple Mullein flowers Myristaldehyde Myristic acid Nonanal Nonenal Nonanoic acid Octalactone Nutmeg Oak moss Oak bark extract Octanoic acid Octano Octanone Octen-3-o1 Opopanax oil Octenal Octyl acetate Olibanum oil Olive oil Orange leaf Orange blossoms Orange oil Orange peel oil Origanum oil Orris root Palmarosa oil Palmitic acid Oleic acid Opoponax oil Peruvian oil Pimenta leaf oil Patchouli oil Pigment Yellow 13 Parsley seed oil Peach kernel oil Pectin Pentane Pent-3-en-4-olide omega-Pentadecalactone Pepper oil Peppermint oil Pentanedione Pigment Red 184 Petitgrain oil Phenethyl acetate Phenethyl alcohol Phenethyl isobutyrate Patent Blue V Phenethyl valerate Phenethyl isovalerate Phenethyl phenylacetate Pyridine Phenyl acetic acid Phenyl acetaldehyde Phenyl-3-buten-2-one Pinene Phenyl-1-propanol Phenyl propionic acid2 Phenyl propionaldehyde2 Piperonal Potassium sorbate Phosphoric acid Phenylpropyl acetate Ponceau 4R Polyvinyl alcohol Potassium carbonate Polyvinyl acetate homo-polymer Plumb juice Pine needle oil Potassium chloride Pipsissewa leaf extract Pyrrole Sodium chloride Potassium hydroxide Polyv. acetate alcohol copolymer Propane Potassium phosphate Propenyl guaethol Propionic acid Propyl acetate Propyl alcohol Propyl butyrate Propyl phenyl acetate Propylene glycol Pyruvic acid Pyroligneous acid Ropylidenephthalide Rhodinol Toasting flavors Quebracho bark Rhodinyl acetate Rose water Rose oil Rosemary oil Rum ether Saccharin Saffron Sage oil Salicylaldehyde Rye extract Sclareolide Smoke flavor Sodium bisulphate Shellac Sandalwood oil Silicic acid Sodium alginate Skatole Sodium carbonate Sodium bicarbonate Sodium hydroxide Sorbic acid Sodium phosphate Spearmint oil Spike lavender oil Snakeroot oil Sodium acetate Sodium chloride Sodium citrate Sorbitol Spiranol Whisky Brandy Rum Starch Star anise oil Styrax gum Sucrose syrup Tamarind extract Sunset Yellow FCF Tannic acid Solanone Tangerine oil Sugar alcohols Sugars Tarragon oil Tartaric acid Tartrazine Yellow Tea resinoid Terpineol Terpinyl acetate Tetrahydroquinoxaline Menthofuran Rose oxide Thiabendazole Red thyme oil Tetramethyl pyrazine Thymol White thyme oil Titanium dioxide Tobacco extracts Tolualdehydes Tolyl acetate Tolu balsam gum Tolyl-3-methylbutyrate Tagetes oil Triacetin Thiazole Threonine Triethyl citrate Tolyl phenylacetate Trichlorofluoromethane Undecalactone Tuberose oil Turpentine oil Triethylene glycol Trimethyl cyclohexanone Undecanal Urea Trimethyl pyrazine Valeraldehyde-N Vinegar Valine Wild cherry bark Xanthan gum Valerian root Valeric acid Valerolactone Vanilla beans and extract Vanillin Veratraldehyde Vetiver oil Violet oil Violet leaf Walnut extractables Wheat extract Wine Wine sherry Ylang Ylang oil Xylenol Yeast
http://whyquit.com/whyquit/A_Tobacco_Additives.html

Perfectionist
Sep 28th, 2009, 6:37 PM
Yup ...... if ya quit Smoking you'll live forever !! :w00t:

JenaS62
Sep 28th, 2009, 6:38 PM
Quit being a drag BR! LOL (oh and no pun intended).

Knightmare
Sep 28th, 2009, 6:42 PM
damn, and yet they say pot is bad for ya? hmmmmm.

sweetvelocity
Sep 28th, 2009, 6:58 PM
That information was very much available Blu-ray, but this new chemical has hardly been spoken of.

I am just pointing out the changes that have been made to cigarettes so people who smoke will know that they are coming. Then they can make the choice to ignore it or pay attention. I had no idea about the change until I started asking why my cigarettes were making me so freaking sick.

So to answer your question if I cared about all of those other chemicals. Yes I cared. I worked very hard at quitting, but in the end the only thing that made me quit was the nasty changes that were made to cigarettes. So I guess its not all that bad. Hell I wish they would make them illegal.

Assassin X
Sep 28th, 2009, 9:27 PM
If people want to smoke Coffin Nails thats up to them. :P

3rDShifT
Sep 29th, 2009, 7:16 AM
Does this apply to cigars too? I smoke swisher sweets. (Everytime I try to quit, some bullshit happens, and I smoke again.)

Stalker
Sep 29th, 2009, 8:25 AM
Jena, I feel for ya.

I quit smoking in 1999 the first time. Went back to it for a few years because of work related stress, and then quit again in 2001. There are times when I crave one every now and then, but then the smell is just horrible....I can't stand it. Can't stand the taste of them either.

I honestly think that to quit smoking is definitely a psychological thing. I was getting sick of the smell of them and I hated the taste of them, however I wanted the "release" that they seemed to give me. I had to find something else to give me the release.

Best of luck to ya, chickie, if you do decide to quit.

JenaS62
Sep 29th, 2009, 10:29 AM
I had to find something else to give me the release.




Is it something you can share or would it be TMI? :wink:

MaximumPain
Sep 29th, 2009, 10:33 AM
Is it something you can share or would it be TMI? :wink:

*phttttt* I have no idea what your talking about? :lol:

Mezurashi
Sep 29th, 2009, 11:06 AM
a reminder to all that once upon a time Tobacco was a 'controlled' substance on the tribal level. only the Shamans were permitted to partake and they did so in a manner which would likely make anyone unused to it sick to their guts if not kill them outright (the equivalent to 200 cigarettes in one sitting).

they did this in order to deliberately 'overdose' on nicotine and thus inspire hallucinations and visions.

and the Shaman was the one who 'gave' of themselves - who were willingly sacrificing their health and longevity in order to provide the magic for their tribe.

the 'habit' of smoking tobacco is nothing more than a dilution of an old fashioned magical ritual - and like all dilutions the magic is lost and the grand blanding of the ritual has reduced it to mere indulgence.

and I smoke ...

Stalker
Sep 29th, 2009, 2:16 PM
Well, sometimes it's as simple as just taking a deep breath. Most times, it's coffee.

Everyone just has to find what's right for them.

Nicorette gum (orange flavor) worked for me better than the patch.

JenaS62
Sep 29th, 2009, 2:23 PM
Oh ok. LOL

But don't cigarettes and coffee go together like peas and carrots?

My greatest challenge is while driving. Or after I eat. Or....

Assassin X
Sep 29th, 2009, 2:35 PM
I don't understand why people smoke after they see all the anti-smoking things.

Such as pictures of smokers lungs compared to regular lungs:
http://extremeliversupport.com/Graphics/lungs_heart_healthy%20copy.jpghttp://extremeliversupport.com/Graphics/lungs_enlarged%20heart.jpg




Or what about the cost of smoking, as in money wise. Heres a calculator too see how much you spend:
http://health.discovery.com/tools/calculators/smoke/smoke.html (http://health.discovery.com/tools/calculators/smoke/smoke.htmlMy)

My friend spends over $5000 a year on cigs from what I added up. >.<



Then theres future costs:
When you get a disease from the cigs like lung cancer and what. And don't forget medical bills that roll in. And your eventual death from all this. All this has a cost on you and your family and friends.



Things smoking causes:


Lung disease, lung cancer, emphysema -- these are RARE DISEASES in the absence of smoking.
Heart disease, particularly diseases of the heart arteries. I have always felt that the American Lung and the American Cancer Societies have done a much better job than heart organizations in getting out their message about smoking. Smoking kills more people through its increase in heart attacks than it does with cancer or emphysema! Let's look at some of the cardiovascular risks:
30% of deaths due to heart attacks and coronary artery disease are due to smoking.
The risk of a heart attack is increased six times in women and three times in men (this is at one pack per day)
People who continue to smoke after a heart attack increase their risk by 25-50%
The risks of stroke is markedly increased.
Cancers other than lung cancer: Associations are noted with bladder, stomach, pancreas, esophagus, larynx, mouth, cervix.
Peptic ulcer disease
Increase bad (LDL) cholesterol
Lower good (HDL) cholesterol
Increases insulin resistance
Cigarettes are loaded with "free radicals" which "oxidize" the LDL cholesterol. Oxidized LDL is the very worst type of cholesterol.
Directly accelerate the progression of the atherosclerotic plaque.
Increase the heart rate and the blood pressure
Increase fibrinogen, a protein involved in the formation of clots
Increase the "stickiness" of platelets, the blood elements involved in clotting
Impairs the responsiveness of the cells lining the blood vessels.
Makes the carotid arteries thicker and other arteries stiffer.
Causes spasm of the heart arteries.
Food smell and taste different


With that said obviously its not easy, thats the point of the evil cig companies. But theres plenty of things out there to at least help you try to quit. The patches are supposedly "the best" way.

Stalker
Sep 29th, 2009, 2:38 PM
lol Jena, I never really drank coffee until after I stopped smoking. It used to be a Pepsi in one hand and a Marlboro Light in the other.

Assassin X
Sep 29th, 2009, 4:24 PM
Pop was my sin. lol. Then I got kidney stones. Pop no longer is my sin. My new sin is um...um... I don't think I have one currently. (finds one)