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VegasRonin
Jun 5th, 2004, 9:09 PM
Is NASA's Prometheus Program putting our health and lives in jeopardy? Using Nuclear fueled space vehicles or hauling nuclear cargo will always pose a threat of global contamination. If/when accidents happen in or around our atmosphere. It wouldn't be the first time either.


On April 24, 1964, the GE-built Transit 5BN with a SNAP-9A (SNAP for Systems Nuclear Auxiliary Power) system on-board failed to achieve orbit and fell from the sky, disintegrating as it burned in the atmosphere. The 2.1 pounds of Plutonium-238 (an isotope of plutonium 280 times "hotter" with radioactivity than the Plutonium-239 which is used in atomic and hydrogen bombs) in the SNAP-9A dispersed widely over the Earth. A study titled "Emergency Preparedness for Nuclear-Powered Satellites" done by a grouping of European health and radiation protection agencies later reported that "a worldwide soil sampling program carried out in 1970 showed SNAP-9A debris present at all continents and at all latitudes."
Long connecting the SNAP-9A accident and an increase of lung cancer on Earth has been Dr. John Gofman, professor emeritus of medical physics at the University of California at Berkeley, an M.D. and Ph.D. who was involved in isolating plutonium for the Manhattan Project and co-discovered several radioisotopes.

The most recent NASA nuclear space probe mission was called Cassini. It was launched in 1997 with more plutonium fuel - 72.3 pounds - than on any previous space device. NASA conceded the dangers of a Cassini accident in its "Final Environmental Impact Statement for the Cassini Mission." Although its destination was Saturn, Cassini did not have enough power to get it directly there, so NASA devised a "flyby" or "slingshot maneuver" using the Earth. Cassini was to be sent from space hurtling back at Earth and then, just several hundred miles high, whip around Earth to pick up the additional velocity so it could make it to Saturn.
The NASA EIS for Cassini said that on this "flyby" if an "inadvertent reentry occurred" and Cassini fell back to Earth, it would break up in the Earth's 75-mile high atmosphere (it had no heat shield) and "5 billion of the...world population...could receive 99 percent or more of the radiation exposure" from the plutonium dust that would rain down. In areas seriously contaminated, NASA said actions would include: "Remove and dispose all vegetation, Remove and dispose topsoil. Relocate animals...Ban future agricultural land uses." And for urban environments, "Demolish some or all structures. Relocate affected population permanently." Dr. Gofman estimated the toll from cancer from such a Cassini accident as 950,000 people dead.

RADIOACTIVE DEBRIS?
Conflicting reports have circulated on whether or not there was nuclear material on board Columbia. On 2 February, Sheriff Thomas Kerss from Nacogdoches, Texas told National Public Radio, "There was radioactive material on board" and that retrieval operations would be testing debris for radioactivity.
Dale Vodak, environmental investigator for the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality, was quoted in the 7 February Orlando Sentinel as saying that americium-242, "used in smoke detectors" had been found. In fact, the isotope used in smoke detectors is americium-241.
Americium-242m, a form of americium-242, however, is under investigation as a possible nuclear fuel for use in space programs, since its critical mass (the minimum amount needed for nuclear fission) is around one percent of that of uranium. Research into this has been carried out at Israel's Ben-Gurion University.
NASA denied that there was nuclear material on board Columbia. However, on February 3rd - just two days after the disaster - NASA presented its budget for its Project Prometheus space nuclear program: a whopping US$3 billion over five years.
Karl Grossman

idisagree
Jun 10th, 2004, 2:56 PM
What a load of poop...

How much radioacitive matter do you think is in space? You think something we stick up there could survive re-entry?

Get a life and learn something.

Watcher
Jul 5th, 2004, 6:28 AM
What a load of poop...

How much radioacitive matter do you think is in space? You think something we stick up there could survive re-entry?

Get a life and learn something.

Well I might agree with you that the amount of radioactivity is relatively small, but re-entry won't destroy it. In fact, burn-up on re-entry would be a disaster scenario - look how widely scattered the debris was from the shuttle.

The hazard times for any spacecraft containing radioactive materials is takeoff and re-entry. But I would agree with you that the threat is miniscule, considering the amounts involved.

MacRasta
Jul 5th, 2004, 8:41 AM
Like I've understood they never took it into account when sending their first space-engines? The returning to earth bit that is...

Mac

Defiant Noquisi
Jul 5th, 2004, 8:53 AM
What a load of poop...

How much radioacitive matter do you think is in space? You think something we stick up there could survive re-entry?

Get a life and learn something. Learn something yourself. Could you have said it with any less intelligence? :bs: :nono:

VegasRonin
Jul 5th, 2004, 6:22 PM
LOL! I was on business when Mr. Smart Ass posted his reply or I would have gave him some! :boxer:

Defiant Noquisi
Jul 6th, 2004, 6:06 AM
You know me, I can smell ignorant b.s. from miles away! LOL

MR.G
Jul 13th, 2004, 6:26 PM
There have been a number of space vehicles that have gone up with nuke Aux. power. Some have come down. There was a large Soviet sat. that came down over Canada a few years back. The aux. power was a plutonium core and it did disintegrate on reentry. I think they found most of the chunks. Some may have been buried in the muskeg but no worries. Pu234 only has a half life of 11 million years so it will be harmless in no time.

Don't mind Defiant Busybody. She rarely has anything to actually say but spends her time in here being "outraged and offended" either for herself or somebody else.

MooooooooooSPLLAAAAT!! :Blbl:

Defiant Noquisi
Jul 14th, 2004, 12:43 AM
Don't mind Defiant Busybody. She rarely has anything to actually say but spends her time in here being "outraged and offended" either for herself or somebody else.

MooooooooooSPLLAAAAT!! :Blbl: It appears you rarely have anything to actually say but would rather spend time stalking my posts. If you couldnt see the above ignorance....excuse me. Why should I be questioning the master of it?

dutchie
Jul 14th, 2004, 2:26 AM
Don't mind Defiant Busybody. She rarely has anything to actually say but spends her time in here being "outraged and offended" either for herself or somebody else.

MooooooooooSPLLAAAAT!! :Blbl:
If it were true, I'd shrug and move on. But you will have to swallow this one and apologize. :guill:

Doomer
Jul 14th, 2004, 6:41 PM
Don't mind Defiant Busybody. She rarely has anything to actually say but spends her time in here being "outraged and offended" either for herself or somebody else.

MooooooooooSPLLAAAAT!! :Blbl:
Amen. I agree.

Defiant Noquisi
Jul 14th, 2004, 6:55 PM
Amen. I agree. Hehehe, thats only because I called you out for the terrible things you are allowing happen to your children while you scout for a piece of ass on the internet. If you dont want to be called on the carpet for it, dont post it. Anyone that would act like that deserves what you got from me. Of course, I wouldnt pollute space with you either. That fallout would be worse than what NASA is spewing. :sardonic:

And before you go about posting in the manner that you have been towards me Mr. G, you better go read his thread about religion destroying his marriage. It's a real eye-opener into his mentality.