Out of Place Artifacts

[Resentedhalo]

Out of Place Artifacts otherwise known as Ooparts, this is something I have recently started looking into and there seems to be lots of these artifacts which makes me think wether mainstream history, archaeology and science really does have all the answers.

Such things are ridiculed by mainstream academia and for quite a simple reason, they are out of place and throw all of their current ideas and theories out of the window! Mainstream academia gets very defensive when all the ideas that they have been taught and the ideas which they spread as fact are brought into disrepute.

Open your mind and take a look at some of these Out of Place Artifacts that I now present to you... some from the downright strange to the downright interesting!



The 500,000 year old Spark Plug (The Coso Artifact)

found by Wallace Lane, Virginia Maxey, and Mike Mikesell in 1961... were seeking interesting mineral specimens, geodes and the like, for their gem and giftshop in California when they collected some rock specimens. It wasn't until the next day however when Mikesell was cutting various rocks in the the workshop when he broke his diamond saw blade cutting through one rock that he thought was a geode. Inside the nodule that was cut, Mikesell did not find the cavity that is typical of geodes, but a perfectly circular section of very hard, white material that appeared to be porcelain. In the center of the porcelain cylinder, was a 2-millimeter shaft of bright metal... the metal shaft responded to a magnet.
There were still other odd qualities about the specimen. The outer layer of the specimen was encrusted with fossil shells and their fragments. In addition to shells, the discoverers noticed two nonmagnetic metallic metal objects in the crust, resembling a nail and a washer. Stranger still, the inner layer was hexagonal and seemed to form a casing around the hard porcelain cylinder. Within the inner layer, a layer of decomposing copper surrounded the porcelain cylinder.

http://www.cicap.org/new/images/a/g/sp3840.jpg

http://z.about.com/d/paranormal/1/0/0/G/coso_lg.jpg




The BaalBeck Block

A huge block, considered the largest hewn stone in the world, still sits where it was cut almost 2,000 years ago. Called the "Stone of the Pregnant Woman", it is 21.5m x 4.8m x 4.2meters in size and weighs an estimated 1,000 tons. Not even our biggest and best cranes could lift this stone block, so how on earth was it moved to its present position?
Baalbeck itself is an very interesting place in itself and is worthy of a lot of research if you've never done so before.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_arqueo/baalbek06_05.jpg




The Kensington Rune Stone

The Kensington Runestone is a 200-pound slab of greywacke covered in runes on its face and side which if it is genuine, would suggest that Scandinavian explorers reached the middle of North America in the 14th century. It was found in 1898 in the largely rural town of Solem, Minnesota.

http://saveyourheritage.com/images/506px-Kensington-runestone_flom-1910.jpg





The Piri Reis Map

Probably the most famous Out of Place Artifact in the world! Compiled in 1513 from military intelligence by the Ottoman-Turkish admiral and cartographer Piri Reis. The half of the map which survives shows the western coasts of Europe and North Africa and the coast of Brazil with reasonable accuracy. Various Atlantic islands including the Azores and Canary Islands are depicted, as is the mythical island of Antillia and possibly Japan. The map has been used to claim an ancient knowledge of an ice-free Antarctica, transmitted either from extra-terrestrials or an Ice Age civilization.

http://home.earthlink.net/~walterk12/Celtic/Pics/piri_reis_map.jpg




The Baghdad Battery

The Baghdad Battery sometimes referred to as the Parthian Battery, is the common name for a number of artifacts created in Mesopotamia, possibly during the Parthian or Sassanid period (the early centuries AD). These jars were probably discovered in 1936 in the village of Khuyut Rabbou'a, near Baghdad, Iraq. These artifacts came to wider attention in 1938 when Wilhelm König, the German director of the National Museum of Iraq, found the objects in the museum's collections. In 1940, König published a paper speculating that they may have been galvanic cells, perhaps used for electroplating gold onto silver objects. This interpretation continues to be considered as at least a hypothetical possibility. If correct, the artifacts would predate Alessandro Volta's 1800 invention of the electrochemical cell by more than a millennium.

http://www.hasdeu.bz.edu.ro/softuri/fizica/mariana/Electricitatea/Pile_2/battery1a.jpg

[Traveler]

This has been going on for years and is so blatantly obvious only a moron can't see it.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=124000

[Resentedhalo]

The Voynich Manuscript

The Voynich manuscript is a mysterious, undeciphered illustrated book. It is thought to have been written in the 15th or 16th century. The author, script, and language of the manuscript remain unknown.
Over its recorded existence, the Voynich manuscript has been the object of intense study by many professional and amateur cryptographers, including some top American and British codebreakers of World War II fame (all of whom failed to decrypt any portion of the text).

http://www.world-mysteries.com/awr_6vm2.jpg





Trinitite (fused green glass)

large sheets of Trinitite are to be found in the Euphrates Valley, dated approx 8,000 years old. Thought to have been created by extreme heat. To add, Trinitite was also created in New Mexico as a result of atomic testing in 1945.

(sorry I can't find an image of it in the Euphrates Valley yet).





The Dropa Stones

Dropa Stones or more accurately the Dropa Discs were found in the summer of 1938, when a Chinese archaeological expedition was mapping a series of interlocking caves in a part of the Himilayan Mountains called the Baian Kara Ula Mountains, between the border that divides China and Tibet. The expedition was being led by a Dr. Chi Pu Tei, when they stumbled across a remarkable find. In some of the caves, there were neat lines of graves, and buried in these graves were the remains of a strange people. Averaging about 4 feet in height, they had long spindly limbs and round, large oversized heads. The researchers speculated that they were the remains of apes, but apes are hardly known for burying their dead. More recently it has been suggested that these are the remains of aliens, grey type beings, as we shall see why. As well in other caves there were discovered cave drawings, pictograms of the heavens. The drawings have been carbon dated as being between 10 and 12 thousand years old (reportedly). Then a researcher stumbled across a strange, hand crafted stone disc. It was 9 inches in diameter (approximately), with a 3/4 inch perfectly round
hole in the center of the disc.

http://godssecret.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/ciencia_dropa14.jpg

http://themanyfacesofspaces.com/The_Dropa_stones_4.jpg

[Resentedhalo]

The Fuente Magna

The Fuente Magna, also known as the Fuente Bowl is a controversial artifact discovered in Bolivia. It bears writing in what has been described as Sumerian and proto-Sumerian cuneiform!
It is a large stone vessel, resembling a libation bowl, possibly used for religious ceremonies.It was found in the 1950's by a farmer in the neighbourhood of Tiwanaku and has since been authenticated.

http://img1.liveinternet.ru/images/attach/b/2/0/86/86382_fm22.jpg

http://www.ancientx.com/nm/articlefiles/52-1g.jpg

http://www.atlantisbolivia.org/atlantisboliviapart4_files/fuentemagnabowl.jpg





The Ica stones

The Ica stones are a collection of andesite stones that contain what are alleged to be ancient depictions of dinosaurs and advanced technology, they were reportedly discovered in a cave near Ica, Peru.
The stones depict a wide variety of scenes: dinosaurs attacking or helping humans, advanced technology, advanced medical operations, maps, and sexual depictions. While there is a degree of ambiguity that leaves room for differing interpretations, they display definite knowledge of things that are wholly anachronistic.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/images/v24/i2/p30_icaStone.jpg

http://creationbuff.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/ica_stone.jpg







The Kingoodie Hammer (The London Hammer)

The Kingoodie artifact is an object with the characteristics of a corroded iron nail found in a block of sandstone in 1844 in the Kingoodie Quarry in Kingoodie, Scotland.
David Brewster reported to the British Association that the nail was found when a rough block of stone was being prepared for dressing. The nail was discovered when the overlying clay was cleared from the stone, with half an inch (12.5 mm) of the nail projecting into the clay and the remainder of the nail lying along the surface of the stone to within an inch of the head which went down into the stone. It is not known from what part of the quarry the stone came from, and it was handled at least four or five times between being found in the quarry and moved to where it was dressed.

http://ooparts.us/images/oopart51.jpg

[GamerGal]

This has been going on for years and is so blatantly obvious only a moron can't see it.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=124000

Really? I know you're a fucking moron but really? WND is almost as bad as Fox for news. Except WND doesn't say its fair and balanced, it admits it is blatantly wrong and right wing.

[Resentedhalo]

Really? I know you're a fucking moron but really? WND is almost as bad as Fox for news. Except WND doesn't say its fair and balanced, it admits it is blatantly wrong and right wing.

Can we stay on topic please?

It would be nice to actually have a conversation about what I've posted and not end up in pointless arguments with people.

[GamerGal]

Also, on topic
http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa072098.htm
http://www.ancientx.com/nm/anmviewer.asp?a=75&z=1

[Resentedhalo]

Antikythera Mechanism

The Antikythera Mechanism is an ancient mechanical calculator (also described as the first known mechanical computer) designed to calculate astronomical positions. It was recovered in 1900–01 from the Antikythera wreck but its complexity and significance were not understood until decades later. It is now thought to have been built about 150–100 BC. Technological artifacts of similar complexity did not reappear until the 14th century, when mechanical astronomical clocks appeared in Europe.

http://svichet.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/machine.jpg

http://media.artdiamondblog.com/images2/Antikythera%20MechanismRadiograph.jpg






The Saqqara Bird

The Saqqara Bird is a bird-like artifact made of sycamore wood, discovered during the 1891 excavation of the Pa-di-Imen tomb in Saqqara, Egypt. It dates back to at least 200 BC and is now housed in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo. It has a wingspan of 7.2 inches and weighs 39.120 grams. The artifact has a beak, no holes for feathers, and one eye, and was painted to resemble a falcon without clear images and carving of feathers on the wings. Perhaps the most intriguing speculation is that the “Bird” may show that an understanding of the principles of aviation existed many centuries before such are generally believed to have first been discovered. The Ancient Egyptians had knowledge to some extent of sail construction. Since the 5.6-inch long object closely resembles a model airplane, it has led one Egyptologist, Khalil Messiha, and others to speculate that the Ancient Egyptians developed the first aircraft.

http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/bird-2.jpg





The Aluminium wedge of Aiud

Also known as the Object of Aiud, it is a wedge-shaped object found 2 kilometers East of Aiud, Romania, on the banks of the Mures river in 1974. According to an article written by Boczor Iosif a contributor to Hungarian paranormal magazines, it was found under 35 feet of sand and along side 2 mastodon bones. His article also claims it was found in 1973. For three reasons some claim the wedge is proof that aliens came to visit Earth in the past. An unnamed aeronautical engineer said it resembled the foot of landing gear not unlike the current space vehicles at the time, only smaller. This was corroborated by Florin Gheorghita, a known ufologist in Romania. The fact that it was found in the same layer as mastodon bones, and assuming it was found in original context, would make it at least 11,000 years old. The third reason people believed that this was from an alien ship was because aluminum was not even discovered until 1808 and could not be produced in mass until 1885.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_USNp11SJKTg/RXwm4zrMbAI/AAAAAAAAACc/MDMFp29qcLQ/s320/Aiud+alum+pad.jpg





The Starchild skull

The Starchild skull is an abnormal human-like skull which was found in Mexico. Its origin and nature are contested by scientists and paranormal enthusiasts. The starchild skull came into the possession of Lloyd Pye, a writer and lecturer in the field of alternative knowledge, in February 1999. According to Pye, the skull was found around 1930 in a mine tunnel about 100 miles (200 km) southwest of the Mexican city of Chihuahua, Chihuahua, buried alongside a normal human skeleton which was exposed and lying supine on the surface of the tunnel. The skull is abnormal in several aspects. A dentist determined that it was a child’s skull, due to unerupted teeth being impacted in the associated upper right maxilla found with the skull. However, the volume of the interior of the starchild skull is 1600 cubic centimeters, which is 200 cm3 larger than the average adult’s brain, and 400 cm3 larger than an adult of the same approximate size.
Carbon 14 dating was performed twice, the first on the normal human skull at the University of California at Riverside in 1999, and on the Starchild skull in 2004 at Beta Analytic in Miami, the largest radiocarbon dating laboratory in the world. Both independent tests gave a result of 900 years.

http://paranormalspy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/startchild.jpg





The Tecaxic-Calixtlahuaca head

The Tecaxic-Calixtlahuaca head is a terracotta head, probably originally part of a larger figurine, discovered in 1933 among pre-Columbian grave goods in the Tecaxic-Calixtlahuaca zone in the Toluca Valley, approximately 65 kilometers west of Mexico City. Because of the head’s non-Amerind facial features, including a beard, and its unusual style, some believe that it is of Roman origin, and thus evidence of pre-Columbian trans-oceanic contact. The site where the head was found seems to be a genuine pre-colonial site undisturbed during the colonial period. A thermoluminescence test performed in 1995 by P.Schaaf and G.A.Wagner in the FS Archaeömetrie unit in Heidelberg, Germany, established its age limits between the 9th century B.C. and the middle of the 13th century A.D, confirming that it is a pre-colonial artifact.

http://idata.over-blog.com/3/29/17/68/Tecaxic_calixtlahuaca_head.jpg

http://www.unm.edu/~rhristov/images/calix1a.jpg

[New Wine]

By GG: Really? I know you're a fucking moron but really? WND is almost as bad as Fox for news. Except WND doesn't say its fair and balanced, it admits it is blatantly wrong and right wing.


Shut up.

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How much more evidence does a person need?

Thanks for putting all of this together in one place, Resentedhalo.

[Resentedhalo]

How much more evidence does a person need?

Thanks for putting all of this together in one place, Resentedhalo.


I suspect that some of these are fakes, however I am sure there are still quite a few of the artifacts that I have shown here that are indeed genuine.

I shall post some more soon! ::):

[Resentedhalo]

The 1600 year old rust-free Iron Ashoka Pillar

The Ashoka Pillar stands almost seven metres high and weighs more than six tonnes. The pillar bears an inscription which states that it was erected as a flagstaff in honor of the Hindu god, Vishnu, and in the memory of the Gupta King Chandragupta II (375-413).
Made up of 98% wrought iron of impure quality, it is 23 feet, 8 inches high and has a diameter of 16 inches. It has attracted the attention of archaeologists and metallurgists as it has withstood corrosion for the last 1600 years despite harsh weather.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0sEjSVLzPdQ/R0fjFfVrZ5I/AAAAAAAABUM/zHHvcl6Y04E/s320/Iron-pillar.jpg






The Dendera light

The "Dendera light" comprises three stone reliefs (one single and a double representation) in the Hathor temple at the Dendera Temple complex located in Egypt. The view of Egyptologists is that the relief is a mythological depiction of a djed pillar and a lotus flower, spawning a snake within, representing aspects of Egyptian mythology.
The reliefs are said by some to depict Ancient Egyptian electrical technology, based on comparison to similar modern devices (such as Geissler tubes, Crookes tubes, and arc lamps). J. N. Lockyer's passing reference to a colleague's humorous suggestion that electric lamps would explain the absence of lampblack deposits in the tombs has sometimes been forwarded as an argument supporting this particular interpretation (another argument being made is the use of a system of reflective mirrors).

http://getlitstaylit.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/fd_sued1.jpg

http://www.greatlakespars.com/images/legends/Dendera_light_002.jpg






The Klerksdorp Spheres

At least 200 have been found, and extracted out of deep rock at the Wonderstone Silver Mine in South Africa, averaging 1-4 inches in diameter and composed of a nickel-steel alloy that doesn't occur naturally.
Some have a thin shell about a quarter inch thick, when broken open are filled with a strange spongy material that disintegrates into dust upon contact with air. The manufactured metallic spheroids have been mined out of a layer of pyrophyllite rock and geologically and by the various radio-isotope dating techniques are shown as being 2.8 - 3 billion years old! Which is long before man ever roamed upon the earth.

http://wxwax.smugmug.com/photos/107449075-M.jpg

http://www.redicecreations.com/winterwonderland/spheres2.gif






The Baigong Pipes

The pipes of Qinghai's Mount Baigong suggest a level of technology simply inconceivable for the apparent era of their manufacture. Locals, residing forty kilometers southeast of Qinghai's Delingha city, have known of the pipes for centuries. They credit aliens for their construction, and even have legends of extraterrestrial visitors to Mt. Baigong. Although the stories are met with predictable skepticism, they become harder to laugh off when one takes in the sixty-meter pyramid near the mountain's summit.
The pipes, according to tests carried out at a local smeltery, are made chiefly of iron, but with an unusual thirty percent silicon dioxide in their matrix.

http://www.eons.com/images/members/2009/6/5/8/2/82935244219182630906_610w.jpeg

http://xenophilius.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/iron_pipe_2.jpg






The Crystal Skull of Lubaantun (the skull of doom)

Probably the most famous crystal skull in the world, allegedly discovered by a 17-year old Anna Mitchell-Hedges in 1924 or 1927 while accompanying her adoptive father on an excavation of the ancient Mayan city of Lubaantun in Belize. Mitchell-Hedges was in Belize, because he believed he would find the ruins of Atlantis. The Mitchell-Hedges skull is made of clear quartz crystal, and both cranium and mandible are believed to have come from the same solid block. It weighs 11.7 pounds and is about five inches high, five inches wide, and seven inches long. Except for slight anomalies in the temples and cheekbones, it is a virtually anatomically correct replica of a human skull.

http://www.bc-alter.net/dfriesen/images//crystalskull.jpg

http://www.guidetobelize.info/en/maya/images/gtb-belize-crystal-skull-maya-guide.jpg

[Resentedhalo]

The Salzburg Cube (Wolfsegg Iron)

The Salzburg Cube, is a small cuboid mass of iron that was found buried in Tertiary lignite in Wolfsegg, Austria, in 1885. It weighs 785 grams and measures 67 x 67 x 47mm. Four of its sides are roughly flat, while the two remaining sides (opposite each other) are convex. A fairly deep groove is incised all the way around the object, about mid-way up its height.
Originally identified as being of meteoric origin, a suggestion later ruled out by analysis, it seems most likely that it is a piece of cast iron used as ballast in mining machinery, it is said to be a 20 million years old.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2502/3953534670_432bcf3ffb.jpg






The Diquis Spheres

Known locally as Las Bolas, the spheres range in size from a few centimetres to over two metres in diameter, and weigh up to 16 tons. Most are sculpted from gabbro, the granitic equivalent of basalt. There are a dozen or so made from shell-rich limestone, and another dozen made from a sandstone. The stones are believed to have been carved between 200 BC and 1500 AD.
Numerous myths surround the stones, such as they came from Atlantis, or that they were made as such by nature. Some local legends state that the native inhabitants had access to a potion able to soften the rock. Another claims that at the centre of each sphere is a single coffee bean.
It has been claimed that the spheres are perfect, or very near perfect in roundness. However some spheres are known to vary by 5 cm (2 in) in diameter. Also the stones have been damaged and eroded over the years, and so is impossible to know exactly their original shape.

http://www.mysteryspheres.com/images/diquis04.jpg

http://www.landmarksfoundation.org/images_projects/images_diquis/diquis08.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/Stone_sphere.jpg/554px-Stone_sphere.jpg

http://www.landmarksfoundation.org/images_projects/images_diquis/diquis01.jpg






The Catalan Atlas

The Catalan Atlas (1375) is the most important Catalan map of the medieval period. It was produced by the Majorcan cartographic school and is attributed to Cresques Abraham. The Catalan Atlas originally consisted of 6 vellum leaves folded down the middle painted in various colors including gold and silver. The first two leaves contain texts in Catalan language covering cosmography, astronomy, and astrology. These texts are accompanied by illustrations. The texts and illustration emphasize the Earth's spherical shape and the state of the known world. They also provide information to sailors on tides and how to tell time at night.

http://www.antiquemaps.co.uk/graphics/plate5.jpg

http://www.mapsorama.com/maps/europe/Europe_Mediterranean_Catalan_Atlas.jpeg







The Phaistos Disc

The Phaistos Disc, is a disk of fired clay from the Minoan palace of Phaistos, possibly dating to the middle or late Minoan Bronze Age (2nd millennium BC). It is about 15 cm in diameter and covered on both sides with a spiral of stamped symbols. Its purpose and meaning and even its original geographical place of manufacture remain disputed, making it one of the most famous mysteries of archaeology.
The Phaistos Disc captured the imagination of amateur and professional archeologists, and many attempts have been made to decipher the code behind the disc's signs. While it is not clear that it is a script, most attempted decipherments assume that it is; most additionally assume a syllabary, others an alphabet or logography. Attempts at decipherment are generally thought to be unlikely to succeed unless more examples of the signs are found, as it is generally agreed that there is not enough context available for a meaningful analysis.

http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/LX/Images/PhaistosDiskProc.jpg







The Dorchester Pot

The Dorchester Pot was a metal vase that was recovered in two pieces after an explosion used to break up rock at Meeting House Hill, in Dorchester, Massachusetts in 1852. The bell-shaped vessel was described as being about 4.5 inches (11.5 cm) high, 6.5 inches (16.5 cm) in diameter as the base and 2.5 inches (6.4 cm) in diameter at the top. The body of this object was said to resemble zinc alloyed with silver in color. It reportedly exhibited floral designs on its side and a wreath or vine design around its lower part, which were both inlaid with silver, it is thought to be about 100,000 years old.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_49Bcbuc6ngM/Sr_WPSqB81I/AAAAAAAAAcQ/3QBcfBzpsYI/s400/Dorchester+vase.jpg






The Acámbaro Figures

The Acámbaro Figures are several thousand small ceramic figurines allegedly found in July 1944 in Acámbaro, Guanajuato, Mexico, by Waldemar Julsrud. The figurines are said by some to resemble dinosaurs and are sometimes cited as anachronisms. The figures attracted little attention from scholars and scientists, and when Julsrud began to assert that they were accurate representations of dinosaurs created by an ancient society, he only alienated himself further from serious scientific investigation. Tabloids and popular media sources covered the story however, and the figures steadily became somewhat famous. Although attempts have been made to date these figures using Thermoluminescence dating and the earliest results, done when TL dating was in its infancy suggested a date around 2500 BCE.

http://ooparts.us/images/oopart47.jpg

http://www.creationism.org/swift/Acambaro/JulsrudHouseFigures1955.jpg

[New Wine]

I wonder if the crystal skull was used just for decorating purposes, or if there was a more functional reason for it.

[one14am]

Interesting thing about that crystal skull is that we do not presently possess the technology to recreate it. Perhaps it is a past societies body of knowledge. Only problem is that we do not understand how to access the info inside it. Much as a society 100 years ago would not have understood how to access a thumb drive.

[The survivor]

I wonder if the crystal skull was used just for decorating purposes, or if there was a more functional reason for it.


Supposeedly there are 13 of these skulls from all over the world. They are said or believed to be between 5000 and 35000 years old. During early expeditions, archaeologists were told by locals that the skulls possessed magical powers and healing properties. However, people are still unsure as to where they came from, or even why they existed. Some like to believe that these were remains from the lost civilization of Atlantis. Others like to believe these are fakes. And yet another group of psychics believe that these skulls have the capability to enable us to look into the past, present and future.
There is an ancient Indian legend saying that there had been thirteen crystal skulls of the Goddess of Death; they had been kept separately from each other under the strict control of pagan priests and special warriors. but who really knows is or may always be a total mystery.... but they are totally beyond explanation. Now there have been some fakes along the way, but tose were made within the last 8 to 10 years or so... But even the fakes are no where close to the measurements and accuracy that these have... there are a couple that are almost perfectly anotomically correct... The hedges skull (as mentioned) is by far the most famous and the most unexplained...

[The survivor]

There are so very many things in the past that we are now only begining to make an attempt to understand ... we are but babies in this time frame of existance... mere children when it comes to understanding what has been here before us...


another example here... It is now widely accepted that sub-Saharan Africa is the cradle of mankind from which Homo sapiens emerged some 100 000 to 200 000 years ago and there is abundant evidence in Swaziland of early Homo sapiens' activity. Makes us wonder what that was all about...
At Lion Cave in Swaziland, ancient miners cut a tunnel 25 feet wide, 30 feet deep, and 20 ft high. This tunnel was cut into a cliff face 500 feet tall. This is apparently the oldest known mining operation. The activity has been securely dated to go back at least 43,000 years by carbon 14 and probably goes back even further to 70-110,000 years ago.

There is just so much that we have yet to begin to understand... or how about foot prints of a human in the clay with dinosaur prints..... those date back farther than the so called calendar of the origins of man...

[sweetvelocity]

There are a few things on here that got my attention. The Inca Stones. There is no way for those people to know what dinosaurs looked like. If those stones are real I cannot imagine how they would know this information.

Then there is the The Klerksdorp Spheres. I am not even sure what to think about that. Almost 3 billion years old? I would love to know where those are kept and who did the testing. Very unusual stuff.

The Dropa Stones are pretty sweet and you can totally see that they tell a story. Everything revolves around the sun literally and figuratively as shown on the stone. The fact that there is actual writing on the stone means either the dating is wrong or that people have been writing longer than we thought.

Thanks for taking the time and putting all of this together. I found it very interesting:)

[Rabid1]

I suspect that some of these are fakes, however I am sure there are still quite a few of the artifacts that I have shown here that are indeed genuine.

I shall post some more soon! ::):

This is a great presentation. While many of them are indeed fakes regarding origins etc.. it is still always fun to see a good collection of the mysterious.

I always wonder why so many people get upset about things getting debunked when they can just move on to the next mystery.....

[KR47]

Thoroughly enjoyed this. Thank you for presenting it.

[Anarch]

This is by far among the top 5 most interesting threads I have ever read.

Some things I knew about other things are blow me out of the water amazing.

all I can really add in the way of something new to offer is...


Infrared images of the newly found Tanis

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-13522957

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/52989000/jpg/_52989046_tanis624x289.jpg

[Zer0th]

^ thanks for reminding me... BBC 1 tonight 8:30pm

When it hits the Discovery channel I've no idea.

[Tsunami]

^ thanks for reminding me... BBC 1 tonight 8:30pm

When it hits the Discovery channel I've no idea.

Lol, I set my reminder a few days ago. I'm interested to see the underground villiages.

[Reef Badlaw]

This is a great presentation. While many of them are indeed fakes regarding origins etc.. it is still always fun to see a good collection of the mysterious.

I always wonder why so many people get upset about things getting debunked when they can just move on to the next mystery.....

I agree. There are some logical explanations floating around for some out-of-place artifacts, but most are simply enigmas that survived a certain time-frame. I love 'em. -Love pondering 'em.

A few-thousand-years just isn't a very long time.

[Zer0th]

@Tsunami: I'm interested in anything that's anathema to Dr. Hawass... doubtless his physog will put in an appearance or three.

[Vuall]

I love mysteries like this, it makes you wonder if Hawkings is correct and time travel is possible, is this the evidence?
Also it makes you wonder when not one of these artefacts is mentioned in the bible even though they were around at the time.

[Zer0th]

Hawking correct? It happens occasionally... but not this time.

[Vuall]

Hawkings is wrong that time travel is possible in theory?
I was unaware that someone had proof of refutation.
You have me intrigued, can you supply a link?

[Zer0th]

There is a semi-theoretical basis for travel to the past based on wormholes... but you'd only be doing something there that was already history.

There's a cheat method of travel to the future using relativistic time dilation, but that's no more time-travel than saying I time travelled from the moment I went to sleep to when I woke up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_travel

[Vuall]

No mention of Hawkings third method I notice, and your link is wikki???

[Zer0th]

No mention of Hawkings third method I notice, and your link is wikki???
I find the wiki page to be a reasonable summary in this regard.

What is this third method of which you speak?

I suspect you mean this...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20003949-71.html

That's relativistic time dilation, as previously mentioned. A state of suspended animation, if possible, would produce the same results.

[Vuall]

A quick google search brought this up
http://news.discovery.com/space/stephen-hawkings-time-machine.html
I think all 3 theories are discussed briefly.

[Zer0th]

The first method is the previously mentioned wormholes to the past.

Second and third are merely two different methods of achieving time dilation; which isn't really time-travel in the conventional sense... rather that you experience time at a different rate relative to those of us back on planet earth.

The difference is this: true forward time-skipping time-travel would insist either: free will doesn't exist because everything is utterly fixed or that we live in a multi-verse. Time dilation doesn't skip time, it merely flows at a different rate.

[Vuall]

I'm really surprised you haven't mentioned the fact that Hawkings theories all involve travelling to the future and not the past, as would be required to place the objects there. Surely you now realise it was sarcasm?

[Zer0th]

I'm really surprised you haven't mentioned the fact that Hawkings theories all involve travelling to the future and not the past, as would be required to place the objects there. Surely you now realise it was sarcasm?
'scuse me if I find that a little post-hoc.

[Vuall]

Post-hoc it may be, but if you read my profile you will see it's in character lol

[hobobone]

I too find this to be a great discussion. While some of these artifacts may not be legitimate. There are so many that truly make one think very hard and challenge academia. Being half American Indian, im much more open minded to accept that what we really know about early man kind is indeed flawed or inconsistent. Ive been reading the posts off and on all day. At the least its very interesting... Some artifacts i already know about..But my horizon just got broader today..The Crystal skull also was the center of the last Indian Jones movie...Id love to see one of those skulls up close..

[Fut004]

The Crystal skull also was the center of the last Indian Jones movie...Id love to see one of those skulls up close..

Please never mention that movie ever again. The world is still trying to forget about it, and you just set us all back.

[hobobone]

Please never mention that movie ever again. The world is still trying to forget about it, and you just set us all back.


LoL..Sorry..wasnt trying to equate a connection...just an observation. Id love to see those skulls because Quartz can be identified to particular regions. For that matter some of my Indian relatives could identify certain stones and their region just from looking at them.