In case you missed it?: Reviewing The Lies: Colin L. Powell, Remarks to the United Na

[humanhybrid]

We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more. Given Saddam Hussein's history of aggression, given what we know of his grandiose plans, given what we know of his terrorist associations, and given his determination to exact revenge on those who oppose him, should we take the risk that he will not someday use these weapons at a time and a place and in a manner of his choosing, at a time when the world is in a much weaker position to respond? This person should be fired for claiming such lies. But we can see nobody has. LOOK AT THE LIES OF MASS DESTRUCTION! http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3710.htm

[Conservative Front]

and i'm still in disbelief that you don't seem to believe sarin is a WMD...

[Emerald_Dragon]

"1 sarin shell does not a war make."

[DontBeAfraid]

You cant even call it that because this shell was a dud. it did less damage than a grenade. Now are grenades wmd's?

[FactsOverFiction]

He also told Fox News that about 10 or 12 sarin and mustard gas shells have been found in various locations in Iraq.



http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,123680,00.html


More and more are coming out, just like when the AussieBloke stuff started its past the "due" date but people that are dead-set in there opinion will blindly ignore the facts, will not change there minds.

FoF

[substand]

also please note that we were never at peace with iraq after the first war. please note that iraq never - in over a decade of "cease fire"- made a full faith (or even 1/2 faith) effort to fulfill the terms of peace, which it agreed to fulfill. Iraq routinely shot at us, and we shot back. 1 sarin shell is not the only issue here. there are MANY MORE instances of reasons iraq gave us to go to full out war...

and i'm counting provocations other than "freeing iraq from Saddamization. freeing them from tyranny, rape, death, torture, etc. While such crimes are sufficient for protesters and naysayers (not neccesarily you all) to go and clamor for war in Bosnia, Haiti, and Liberia, all without the UN (and even for them to criticize Bush for "not acting quick enough" in the latter 2 cases) as soon as the US has but an inkling of any interest to defend, it is not ok.

every one of the "good reasons" is always denounced as "thats not a good reason." and when another arises, it too is not "good enough". one must ask, "when do all the little reasons add up together to make a case for justified war?" To some of you, it seems like never. If we found a nuke, it would be useless because "its only one." not to mention that since it didn't go off, "it did less damage than a grenade." Any evidence we find of further breaches is and will be dismissed as irrelevant because, obviously, it doesn't point to a pattern of behavior that Saddam had consistently shown to be his MO- it instead points to "we want cheap oil" or "contracts for Bush's buddies" or "Bush just did it because Saddam tried to kill his daddy" or "we planted it there so Bush could win the election."

[Conservative Front]

I believe the Sarin shell count is up to 10 or 12 now. or is this just fabricated lies? or is it still isolated and there old but Saddam got rid of all his other ones? come on now. are they gonna have to launch an attack to make you leftys believe that Saddam had WMD's?

[VegasRonin]

If we found a nuke, it would be useless because "its only one." not to mention that since it didn't go off, "it did less damage than a grenade." Not only that Subs but those that are in opposition to the war would say The U.S. planted the nuke. I guarantee it. :vbroll:

[Conservative Front]

Come on vegas, you know as well as I know that we Planted the Sarin shells hell we probably rig there cars with bombs to justify this war too.

[substand]

The U.S. planted the nuke. I guarantee it.

I mentioned that in my last line, but I agree with you. My dad has already stated that that's what he thinks. I mean, I can't say i'm surprised, and certainly it will look suspicious. But the left will take it as true, with or without proof.


I believe the Sarin shell count is up to 10 or 12 now. or is this just fabricated lies? or is it still isolated and there old but Saddam got rid of all his other ones? come on now. are they gonna have to launch an attack to make you leftys believe that Saddam had WMD's?


I don't know what the count is, and if you say its 10 or 12 i beleive you. It just doesn't matter to the "hate-riots" (as Dr. Ergun Mehmet Caner made the word as far as I know. If its 1 or 10 or 12 or 911, it simply doesnt matter. Saddam is obviously a good guy and has never had a pattern of aggression to the west, and we just want oil, rebuilding contracts, revenge, and for bush to be reelected.

even if the enemy "launches an attack," it seems like it will only bring accusations that "if we didn't launch it ourselves to justify the war, we deserve it because we are there raping thier land and pillaging the men by making thier wives and daughters free enough to go to school."

[Emerald_Dragon]

a nuke is not a 10-year old sarin shell.

"
He also told Fox News that about 10 or 12 sarin and mustard gas shells have been found in various locations in Iraq.

The shells are all from the first Gulf War era and thus weakened, though intelligence sources say they’re still dangerous.
"

a suitcase nuke may have a longer shelf life, but according to intel pre-War (Powell 2/01, Rice 8/01), he did not have any and could not get any. are you guys who are pro-War forgetting that fact? this is due to our "bird-dogging" his actions and bombing him at will.


>it instead points to "we want cheap oil" or "contracts for Bush's buddies" or
>"Bush just did it because Saddam tried to kill his daddy" or
>"we planted it there so Bush could win the election."

no, they are not. those are collateral effects of entering this war. not the reasons for war. we've shown that the reasons for war were invalid, lies, mis-direction. now the rest of the dirt emerges. BTW, I thought the Bush attempt by SH was a hoax, as in, not true. any opinion/link to clarify?


>Iraq routinely shot at us, and we shot back.

was that or was that not, in reaction to the no-fly zone. i forget, was that a U.N. sanctioned policy? or U.S.? Legal or not?


>are they gonna have to launch an attack to make you leftys believe that Saddam had WMD's

of course he had WMDs, none of the ones stated by Powell to the UN as of yet, but he has them. tons of Ammonia can be considered a WMD, but have any been found? i don't mean a gallon or liter of it scattered around the country, the mass quantities of it used as propaganda to justify the war.

[substand]

a nuke is not a 10-year old sarin shell.
no, its not. put a 10-year old sarin shell points to the same pattern we've seen and corroborates that same pattern. and if a pattern of behavior is not reliable evidence, what is? especially when that same pattern makes it impossible to find further evidence (by not cooperating and kicking inspectors out) to support the pattern or when the individual offers no meaningful deviation from his established pattern of behavior. So again, I'm not convinced a nuke would convince you, and you have yet to say that it would, offering only a noncommittal response that basically of "sarin is not a nuke."


but according to intel pre-War (Powell 2/01, Rice 8/01), he did not have any and could not get any.

and according to later intelligence (cia 10/02, national intelligence estimate) we were "moderately confident" Iraq did not have nuke but it was "likely to have a weapon by 2007 to 2009". we were "highly confident" that:


Iraq is continuing, and in some areas expanding, its chemical, biological, nuclear and missile programs contrary to UN resolutions.

We are not detecting portions of these weapons programs.

Iraq possesses proscribed chemical and biological weapons and missiles.

Iraq could make a nuclear weapon in months to a year once it acquires sufficient weapons-grad fissile material


and only of low confidence of when he would use them and how (ie, give them to al qaeda)
(from http://www.fas.org/irp/cia/product/iraq-wmd.html)


I thought the Bush attempt by SH was a hoax, as in, not true. any opinion/link to clarify?

from 1993 washington post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/iraq/timeline/062793.htm

from DOJ that debunks the "changed evidence" theory:
http://www.usdoj.gov/oig/special/9704a/05bush2.htm



was that or was that not, in reaction to the no-fly zone. i forget, was that a U.N. sanctioned policy? or U.S.? Legal or not?

the "legality" is sketchy at best under the UN, those against the US and britain claim they are voilating law, the US and britain claim they are in the right. read a rather slanted (imo to your pov) @ http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2490361.stm.

My own position is that it was part of the terms for ending all out war, and that Iraq would need to abide by the rules at least until we were at peace, therefore, the UN is irrelevant in the matter.

[Emerald_Dragon]

>So again, I'm not convinced a nuke would convince you,
>and you have yet to say that it would,

a nuke probably would. so long as the ensuing investigation didn't lead to Ft. Dietrick [ref: Anthrax scare] or some other U.S. base as the source of the nuke. False flag ops, state sponsored terrorism, should be disproven. There should be no doubt and no unanswered questions.


From the link:
>How quickly Iraq will obtain its first nuclear weapon depends
>on when it acquires sufficient weapons-grade fissile material.

to which I agree, that they may have been trying to get some fissile material.

HOWEVER,
if they did manage to do so [which I highly doubt], the MOSSAD would have stepped in and blew it up, as they have in the past, those guys don't play around.

Further, the link may be more of the faulty intelligence as mentioned by Kay.


>We assess that Baghdad has begun renewed production of mustard, sarin, GF (cyclosarin), and VX;

with over a year of looking, we have found sarin/mustard from 10+ years ago. not any of the new tonnage as this declassified report expresses.


>We judge that Saddam would be more likely to use chemical weapons than biological
> weapons on the battlefield.

and if he doesn't? did he?



>High Confidence:

>Iraq is continuing, and in some areas expanding, its chemical, biological, nuclear
>and missile programs contrary to UN resolutions.

>We are not detecting portions of these weapons programs.

>Iraq possesses proscribed chemical and biological weapons and missiles.

>Iraq could make a nuclear weapon in months to a year once it acquires sufficient weapons-grad fissile material

Which we have debunked with our occupation.



>A foreign government service reported that as of early 2001,
> Niger planned to send several tons of "pure uranium" (probably yellowcake) to Iraq

which was revealed to be false by Ambassador Wilson, in November of 2002 (?).


thanks for the links on the Bush attempt. They sound real enough to me.
But IMO, i think i there was an attempt on Bush 41, just maybe not from Iraq.
http://www.newyorker.com/archive/content/?020930fr_archive02

Whitehurst was right, his conclusions were misrepresent. And after you read that article, you'll wonder what the hell was going on.


>the "legality" is sketchy at best under the UN,

You may feel the U.N. is irrelevant. I disagree.

We ousted SH/Iraq from Kuwait with a United UN coalition. But took it upon ourselves to regulate their airspace, after allowing them to take Kuwait. That's a bit pushing it. Yeah, legality is sketchy. Was it a war, or was it a police action? They were shooting at us, but in their country. err...who can be 'right' on either side of that issue?

Thanks for seeing both sides. Its hard to argue against you when you're agreeing in the same breath.

[Defiant Noquisi]

Not that Im completely innocent but since when did a thread about Colin Powell's alleged lies turn into a debate about conspiracies, fresh and dud or what is or isnt a WMD? Cmon peeps! Gimme the dirt on Powell since I dont know much about his alleged lies.

[humanhybrid]

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3710.htm
Cmon peeps! Gimme the dirt on Powell since I dont know much about his alleged lies. HERE IT IS: Defiant Noquisi :jap:

[Defiant Noquisi]

HERE IT IS: Defiant Noquisi :jap: Thanks, but since I dont know anything about it I only see one thing from that link...

Based on his evidence at hand, Powell didnt lie. His meeting and commentary are based on the evidence provided which would be legal and admissible if he were in court, which he is not.

This link doesnt point out any lies to me. Since I am ignorant on this subject, I havent learned anything other than Powell's testimony is true based on his evidence. The website doesnt point out anything regarding his evidence either. It just rehashes the testimony of the meeting.

I dont care a whole lot for Powell either(for other reasons). But I cant just up and blast the man with no evidence to the contrary regarding what is being presented here. Give me good, solid irrefutable dirt on him and he will be placed on my dart board where that chimp looking shrub is located.

The other thing thats bugging me is that there is an entire country that is in need of repair on many levels. The focus should be assisting them to get back on their feet in the manner in which they want to be, not as we would wish them to be. That is of course, unless they want to further more terrorism against us. Still, right now the focus should be on getting that country in a solid safe rebuilding campaign and bringing the troops home in a responsible (and hopefully timely) manner.

We can take care of the likes of the shrub and others in November. Why not focus your passion and anger more creatively and where it would do the most good?

[humanhybrid]

This link doesnt point out any lies to me. Since I am ignorant on this subject, I havent learned anything other than Powell's testimony is true based on his evidence. The website doesnt point out anything regarding his evidence either. It just rehashes the testimony of the meeting. The point is that they were lies and to make them the basis for invading a soverein country, they should have been SOLID without doubt. And again was anybody held accountable? These lies were totally embellished to such a great extent that it takes no great effort to understand that it was a way in which our goverment selectivly presented the dramatic intelligece to persuade our nation to invade. Now they are bribeing and lieing to establish security so that the intrests of buisness and oil can begin. Im sorry of all people you should know the ways of the white man. good day! :jap:

[VegasRonin]

Im sorry of all people you should know the ways of the white man. good day! Oh, so you don't like white people? I guess that means you view Colin Powell as a Sell Out ? If you're against white people then you, naturally, have to be against America. Your position is a lot clearer now HH. :devsmoke:

[Defiant Noquisi]

The point is that they were lies and to make them the basis for invading a soverein country, they should have been SOLID without doubt. And again was anybody held accountable? These lies were totally embellished to such a great extent that it takes no great effort to understand that it was a way in which our goverment selectivly presented the dramatic intelligece to persuade our nation to invade. Now they are bribeing and lieing to establish security so that the intrests of buisness and oil can begin. Again, where did he lie and what proof is there that he did? Im looking for specifics and evidence here. All you have given me is your opinion. ANYBODY can lie, but the burden of proof must come from the person doing the accussing. Where is your proof? Dont try saying Im sympathetic towards Bush and friends. I am asking you to prove "SOLID without a doubt" WHY I should believe Powell lied. If you have the information showing where he lied I will definately look at it.



Im sorry of all people you should know the ways of the white man. good day! :jap: Okay, Im going to TRY and counter this enormous pile of ignorant BULL SH*T without it being a target for deletion.

First of all, thank you for doing my thinking for me. I really, truly appreciate that you appear to think I have the brain capacity of Frankenstien. It must be that "dumb Indian" or "ignorant savage" thing still going around. Oh yeah, dumb me I forgot, being that the term "merciless Indian Savages" is still part of the "Declaration of Independance". How truly modern.

Secondly, what exactly is "the ways of the white man"? Are there definitive "markers" that one can use to identify the traits of a white man? Would white women also be included in this and can I count you among them?

What if a Black man acts the same as the white man, is he still Black or do I call him white? Maybe your more familiar with "Oreo" hmm? What about a Mexican man for that matter? Is he still Mexican or should he be called a "Potato"? Not leaving out my own, is it really neccessary that I call them "Apples"? Or how about the "Twinkies" who dye their hair and tan themselves to look more "Indian" but are in fact, still white? Not to confuse things, but what about the full bloods that look very similar to Carrie Anne Moss? Are they not Indian? What are they if not?

Since I am still some bloodthirsty savage and since you are AN OCCUPIER of an INDEPENDANT REPUBLIC, should I then come to your home and scalp you and your family then war whoop outside with pride? Or maybe, since this is modern times, beheading would suffice?

Do you get it yet? Its NOT how people look or their race that determines how they think!

I think I will stop here while I have some mode of control over wanting to blast this completely assinine ignorance for what it is.

[humanhybrid]

Stop with all your poppycock Defiant Noquisi.
Okay, Im going to TRY and counter this enormous pile of ignorant BULL SH*T without it being a target for deletion Your not as ignorant as your playing me. But if I must be a target for deletion then so be it!!! And I was begining to think that you were an honorable man among your elders knowing the ways of the white man then and now. But it seems as though you have been assimilated. tisk tisk.
Do you get it yet? Its NOT how people look or their race that determines how they think! How absolutly correct. Then what can we say about what Colon Powell has done and all the chickenhawks roosting with him? I too! think I will stop here while I have some mode of control over wanting to blast this completely assinine ignorance for what it is. good day!

[VegasRonin]

And I was begining to think that you were an honorable man among your elders knowing the ways of the white man then and now. Hehehe, DN, HH called you a man. :lol:
Then what can we say about what Colon Powell has done and all the chickenhawks roosting with him? If you want to call the Bush administration chickenhawks, that's fine and dandy but skin color has nothing to do with it. Cultures have enslaved and subjugated each other since they've been here. Just about every culture has had their turn being the slave and the master. Stop trying to demonize a certain ethnicity! :devsmoke:

[humanhybrid]

If you want to call the Bush administration chickenhawks, that's fine and dandy but skin color has nothing to do with it. Cultures have enslaved and subjugated each other since they've been here. Just about every culture has had their turn being the slave and the master. Stop trying to demonize a certain ethnicity! Your absolutly right! But if the shoe fits, I will call the demon as he is. good day!

[VegasRonin]

Your absolutly right! But if the shoe fits, I will call the demon as he is. good day! That's not what you said. You specifically spoke against white people in general.

[prezhorusin04]

WARNING: This is a Rantble, nothing more nor less.

The ways of the ELITE White men are peculiar. Call them Greys if you must.Reptilians or whatever else you see fit. The Elect of the race have been very manipulative and deceitful, and feel that this world is theirs.

The first of Us, insane with seclusion and knowledge, came down from the mountain tops. Deep Cave Cathedrals.Born with the light of the sun in our darkness and maddness.We were hunted and killed, easy prey in our alien skin. So we formulated plans and devised war tactics. Our belief system and brotherhood was strengthened. We chose and accepted leaders. Symbols of war and myth were put into place, totems of our journey. We agreed on the mission. If we didn't, we were left behind or killed. Neanderthal was killed out before, and bred out. Neanderthal become too much of a competitor, and the new race began to believe in their own superiority.

White man became warped at the initial start. What started as defensive tactics, became a cult of greed, sex and manipulation.Gods on Earth who from heaven to earth came. Sons of the Sun, bringers of the light.

There are reasons the KKK had such great social ties to head politicians in the 30's-50's. Though Racism alone was just a ploy to get other Aryans to go along with their agendas, when in reality, they see themselves as a superior race that are above ALL of us...

They are racial reasons for as to why Jesus is depicted white as snow, almost Vampiric, in a land of Arabs and Jews of darker complexions. Jesus was made for the White man first and foremost, the Europeans and Romans were to be the true heirs of Christ.-The Jews didn't really want him, they were setting the foundation for their true savior, American power, which is to come

The REDISCOVERY of America was very planned out. For En-Masse travel of people who would come here to escape the religious persecutions of the Inquisitions. The Elites of the "Shadow Government"/ Secret Society knew that America was here all along..Their men had started the Mexican temples before the age of Christ.-The progenitors of the Mexican Pyramids, as well as Easter Island, are recorded as Bearded White Men.

In Egypt the Pharaohs were depicted many times as appearing white, while the slaves and natives were of different darker complexions.

Many major Hindu Gods are white, and it is known that the Aryans set up the Vedas religion of India during the invasions of 1800BC. This process took nearly 1000 years to fully establish, but the caste system was one where the white was at the top, and the native dark Indian was at the bottom of the class war.
This system is still set up today as religious practice in India with the Untouchable "Dalits". It is customary to burn these people alive if they take in ANY modern day practices such as using eating utensils, or owning a house or metal buckets for water..They are only permitted to eat out of the trash...They are sinful to touch, yet are raped often. What the Aryans once did to them, they now do to themselves.

EVERY people and culture have sold their own people out to become a part of this "Alien" mind-set. This mind of superiority and eternal life and knowledge. It is what Hitler craved for with his Aryan Supermen of the Inner Earth, and it is what Millions of Nazis and KKK men have killed for.

Black Slavery in America was only abolished 150 years ago, and it's only now seeing any real life. Slavery was abolished in order for the North to win, and a unified currency to be introduced, and centralized banking system. Lincoln was not a saint, he was a PR man.WE ARE ALL SLAVES, ALWAYS HAVE BEEN. What freedom we will accomplish is up to us and the future generations.

THIS IS THE GREAT PURIFICATION that the Mexicans, Indians , Hindus and Christianity so boldly proclaims.The BURNING CROSS. Brotherhood of the serpent.

In closing..Saddam had weapons, he got rid of them. That's not to say that their aren't remnants. -The U.SSSsss and IsssRA-El are staging most of this. Or tying to..-We are breeds of "snake" people. Manufactured species and clones in order to do their will..This has been from the beginning.

Powell IS a LIAR. In the simple fact that he covers for Bush. He is also related to both George Bush and John Kerry.
I do feel that Powell is sick of Bush and lying though, or atleast he wants to appear that way.

I KNOW THIS DIDN'T MAKE TOO MUCH SENSE IN IT'S LAYOUT, BUT I POSTED IT ALL THE SAME. :Bow:

Don't fight, it makes baby Jesus Cry..And That's a Bad thing. :alien:

[Defiant Noquisi]

Stop with all your poppycock Defiant Noquisi. Your not as ignorant as your playing me. But if I must be a target for deletion then so be it!!! Poppycock my ass, if you wouldnt post so ignorantly I wouldnt even comment. Since you seem to enjoy the attention Ill expand on your endless stupidity...

1) I am IGNORANT about the topic of Colin Powell allegedly lying. I do not know much about it at all. I ask for more info and you post bullshit opinion instead of fact that can be substantiated.

2) YOU are NOT a target for deletion. I was talking about wording MY POST so IT wouldnt be deleted. Dont be so paranoid.


And I was begining to think that you were an honorable man among your elders knowing the ways of the white man then and now. But it seems as though you have been assimilated. tisk tisk. I guess I dont have to begin to believe anything about you, you still are a stupid primadonna.

You have thought I was A MAN all this time? WTF???? Im glad you let me know that, I will tell my tits, manhole and the avatar I have had up since the beginning that they are no longer required.

You are worse than Victoria could have ever been! At least we could blame her stupidity on drugs or alcohol. You are just plain ignorant trash posing as intellect.

By the way Princess Ignoramus, one would have had to have grown up in their culture to have to assimilate, I did not and have said so from the beginning. I have seen stupidity and stereotypical thinking in ALL COLORS, not just from stupid, white trash ignorant broads like you. Besides who the fuq are you to decide what I should know? Id sure like to spend more time being honorable than having to educate stupid idiots.


I too! think I will stop here while I have some mode of control over wanting to blast this completely assinine ignorance for what it is. good day! Im enjoying the fact that since you have nothing intelligent to say, you recycle what I post. Oh yeah, what is it....isnt it around 5-6 when children mimic others to try and piss them off? :Blbl:

[Defiant Noquisi]

Hehehe, DN, HH called you a man. :lol: Consider the source. :confused: :dork:

[Defiant Noquisi]

Powell IS a LIAR. In the simple fact that he covers for Bush. He is also related to both George Bush and John Kerry. I do feel that Powell is sick of Bush and lying though, or atleast he wants to appear that way.

I KNOW THIS DIDN'T MAKE TOO MUCH SENSE IN IT'S LAYOUT, BUT I POSTED IT ALL THE SAME. So why post it prez? G4wd4mn, how hard is it for anyone to give me some facts on Powell's lying??? Am I not asking correctly, WTF??? How did asking about the tripe coming out of his Coliness turn into end of the world discussion? Gimme Colin dirt!!!

I found some links but I dont know how accurate they are. These ones actually EXPLAIN where and why he lied which is what I had been asking for from the beginning. Jeebus keeripes!!!

http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/powell_lies_to_un.html

http://www.fair.org/activism/powell-inspectors.html

http://www.fair.org/activism/powell-inspectors-update.html

http://www.quivis.com/powell02.html

[Emerald_Dragon]

that was one long video of Powell at the U.N.

Yep. He lied. Or was instructed to.

He cited many specific items, incidents, and events between 1995 to 2000, that were used as concrete evidence to support his premise that Iraq possessed and hid WMDs. From satellite photos of 40+ mobile missile depots, to hundreds of sites that were manufacturing chemical and biological agents, as well as specific tonnages and distributions as well as projections of unconfirmed potentials. He even claimed an Al-Qaeda/Iraq 'nexus' of cooperation. Tons of WMDs, being moved and tracked because we were better at doing it than the U.N. I also found it curious how Iraq could be developing smallpox as there are only 2 strains of it left in the world and we have them locked up.

He lied, or was told to lie because, in February of 2001, he summed up that Iraq was not a threat, was unable to acquire any WMDs, and unable to project any force anywhere outside of Iraq. So in 2003, he presents to the U.N., Iraq's missile capabilities and warhead potentials, based on items, incidents, and events which occurred between 1995 and 2000, proving without a doubt( :vbroll: ), that it was a threat to his neighbors and had tons of WMDs.

How could he say what he said, in Feb 2001, without factoring in available intel, from 1995 to 2000?

In August of 2001, Rice was saying the same thing about Iraq's capabilities. It did not have any. Then Sept 2001 happens. What did Richard Clarke, John Snow, and many others say about the Administration? "Blame it on Iraq"? Karen Kwiatowski(sp?) was even part of the Pentagon team to find reasons to attack Iraq.

Haven't looked at those links yet. I'll check it out later. I'm sure they are more specific than what i've summed up.

[humanhybrid]

I found some links but I dont know how accurate they are. These ones actually EXPLAIN where and why he lied which is what I had been asking for from the beginning. Jeebus keeripes!!! The accuracy is the very things that were said at the UN and I apologize if you hadnt had the common descency to do a google. So I was right after all, wasnt I Defiant Noquisi? In the very begining of this thread I posted a link that had what he "Colin Powell" said personally at the UN, why didnt you read it. Im sorry that you took the oppertunity to demean me and rant for 2 whole days. You didnt need too Defiant Noquisi. And while IM at it I would like to apologize for the way I got caught up in your rants and demeaning conversations. good day PS: In case you missed it: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3710.htm His lies are no diffrent on any other website. And oh! Im a male too!

[Defiant Noquisi]

The accuracy is the very things that were said at the UN and I apologize if you hadnt had the common descency to do a google. I didnt realize using Google fell under "common decency" now nor do you know what I did or did not do. You again are making it seem that I am not allowed to ask questions. You are an idiot making an assumption.


So I was right after all, wasnt I Defiant Noquisi? In the very begining of this thread I posted a link that had what he "Colin Powell" said personally at the UN, why didnt you read it. So, resorting to being smug and arrogant when you provided no explanation nor proof of where he had lied even though I had asked for more information and stated WHY is "right" huh? I had posted asking for more info beyond the link your provided, and you are now suggesting I didnt read it. How would I have known what to ask if I hadnt read it? In addition, what makes you right when you still have not proved what you posted? You only provided a link to the speech with no explanation whatsoever on the website as to the lies alleged. Is that how you prove things, repeat post without looking thoroughly at whats on the page? How can you prove things to yourself half-assed like that? Again, an idiot making an assumption.


And oh! Im a male too! Huh, a male using an avatar of a girl, thats cool. Its about the only thing that makes complete sense in regards to you. Just from what you posted, it looks as if you still think I am male. :bs: