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equestrian
Apr 24th, 2010, 5:43 PM
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I saw seven high mountains
higher than all the mountains which are on the earth:
and thence comes forth hoar-frost,
and days, and seasons, and years pass away
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.The scribes wanted it known that the "seven high mountains" were stars, and they were (bound together) to form the constellation
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And there I saw seven stars of the heaven
like great mountains - bound together
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As Enoch looked on - he described (the Aurora Borealis, or Northern Lights) as a "horrible place, burning with fire!"
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And I proceeded to where things were chaotic.
And I saw there something horrible:
I saw neither a heaven above nor a firmly founded earth,
but a place chaotic and horrible .. burning with fire.
neither its extent or magnitude could I see,
nor could I conjecture
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http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2270/2249104485_323b0995f1.jpg
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HindSight
Apr 24th, 2010, 11:51 PM
Beautiful picture. Enoch believed the gods came from the Pleiades star cluster. If you stood this picture on end, it appeared to be a winged angel. The Pleiades was literally called 'Heaven' because of the resemblence to an angel. Today it is called 'the Seven Sisters'.

equestrian
Apr 29th, 2010, 6:27 PM
Hindsight


The Pleiades was literally called 'Heaven' because of the resemblence to an angel. Today it is called 'the Seven Sisters'.

james) I don't understand the significance of the Pleiades - but they are mentioned in the strangest of places

In Revelations 1:20 for instance they are mentioned in reference to the Seven Stars, and where the Menorah is a 7-branched candelabrum


Revelations 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks.

The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.
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http://www3.telus.net/public/kstam/images/menorah-med.jpg

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They are also mentioned in the Popol Vuh, the sacred word of the Maya-Quiché, where they are called, Motz. Motz was defined by Brasseur de Bourbourg as the Pleiades. de Bourbourg was a French writer, and archaeologist and specialist in Meso-American studies (according to Wikipedia)

They are also depicted as seven stones held in the right hand of a Mayan image. I have the image but I don't know the source

james
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HindSight
Apr 29th, 2010, 8:20 PM
Umm. I could tell you the significence but rather than rattle cages, suffice it to say that Enoch walked with God and when God showed Enoch the heavens, the Pleiades was part of what he saw. I won't say God said this or that to him, but every since Enoch deplicted the Pleiades as one of the places OF Heaven, man has every since drew angels as winged humans - mocking the shape and image. How can this be 'proved'? As you said, the cluster and image is spoken of in all religions and cultures. The Pleiades has fable in all tribes of Man as a place of holiness or a physical symbol as Heaven; a heaven Man can look at. I sincerely believe this belief came from Enoch saying it is part of heaven - be this fable actual truth or not.

(I do know a heck of a lot more, but it can't be proven so ... I leave its reputation as is.)

equestrian
Apr 30th, 2010, 7:59 AM
HindSight (re.,Pleiades)


I do know a heck of a lot more, but it can't be proven so ... I leave its reputation as is.

james) I've read the Book of Enoch and I've found numerous references to sciences that we accept today. So (proven or otherwise) I'd be interested in your comments -

thanks

james
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