The Cerne Abbas Giant and the mystery of the Rosetta Stone

[equestrian]

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Across all of England they speak of the downs. The word derives from the medieval Norse word meaning hill, but the usage has a broader intent that takes in the general nature of the overall terrain. The terrain of the downs, which is influenced by the underlaying chalk, is made up of vast stretches of rolling hills crossed by rivers and long valleys, or vales. The soil that overlays the chalk is rich but relatively thin and can make for unique displays where the chalk is exposed.

It was in this setting centuries ago, in the county of Dorset in southern England, in the vale of the river Cerne, above the town of Cerne Abbas, and not far distant from the Benedictine Abby, that the soil was removed to expose the underlaying caulk on a hill-side to outline a giant 180 foot tall anthropomorphic figure. That figure is now called the Cerne Abbas Giant!
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james
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[TC]

Well that certainly revealed the mystery of the Rosetta stone... thanks.

[UVsaturated]

Well that certainly revealed the mystery of the Rosetta stone... thanks.


LOL. He must have went to take a piss and his cat stepped on the mouse when he turned away.

[equestrian]

The mystery of the Cerne Abbas Giant and the Rosetta Stone are related and very complex, and not suited for the type of discussion that has ensued

Therefore this thread is terminated from my point of view

james
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[Prometheus]

The mystery of the Cerne Abbas Giant and the Rosetta Stone are related and very complex, and not suited for the type of discussion that has ensued

Therefore this thread is terminated from my point of view

james
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But I know the relationship. It's revealed in the Beatles song "Get Back" when played backwards at 75 RPM's and pitch shifted by precicely three semi-tones down, and then phase shifted 180 degrees at 1078 khz.

Done properly it reveals:

"Sweet Rosetta Stone she thought she was a giant, but she was made of caulk and loam."


:bondage:

[TC]

The mystery of the Cerne Abbas Giant and the Rosetta Stone are related and very complex, and not suited for the type of discussion that has ensued

Therefore this thread is terminated from my point of view

james
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Say dude, you started this thread with a statement:

"The Cerne Abbas Giant and the mystery of the Rosetta Stone"

It was not formed as a question, neither was put forth as a debate! And then you left out half the subject matter....

So don't come off like you're toooooooo advanced for the rest of us!

[Freddy]

Yes, inquiring minds want to know!

[Fut004]

Wow, I'm really glad I stumbled upon this thread. It really supports my assumptions about this Equestrian guy. Also, SR's first post in here actually made me chuckle aloud.

It would be interesting to see how some shit on a hill in England is related to an ancient Greek/Egyptian artifact though, so I think Equestrian should get off his retarded high horse* and try to explain it to us dumbed-downed civilians.


*See what I did there? He's into horses and shit. Funny eh?

[equestrian]

Fut004

I wouldn't give you the time of day

[equestrian]

shortround
Say dude, you started this thread with a statement: "The Cerne Abbas Giant and the mystery of the Rosetta Stone" It was not formed as a question, neither was put forth as a debate! And then you left out half the subject matter....

eq) I don't like smart mouthed replies - those interested in the Cerne Abbas Giant and the Rosetta Stone would have been better off being nice

eq
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[Lourwind]

shortround

eq) I don't like smart mouthed replies - those interested in the Cerne Abbas Giant and the Rosetta Stone would have been better off being nice

eq
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You say that like you're the only person who can explain it to us? Which ironically you are not. The name is available to be googled, I'm sure if people are interested enough they'll find it without having to wait for you.

[equestrian]

Lourwind
You say that like you're the only person who can explain it to us? Which ironically you are not. The name is available to be googled, I'm sure if people are interested enough they'll find it without having to wait for you.

eq) Go for it - all you'll get is a bunch of canned nonsense - and none of it link the Cerne Abbas Giant with the Rosetta Stone

Folk here should learn that nasty begets nothing

eq
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[Lourwind]

Lourwind

eq) Go for it - all you'll get is a bunch of canned nonsense - and none of it link the Cerne Abbas Giant with the Rosetta Stone

Folk here should learn that nasty begets nothing

eq
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Which tells me you're information is unproven or garbage. I have been neither rude nor am I trying to instigate an argument. So, rather then feeding the trolls, why don't we feed some knowledge into this thread?

Since you are the person with this information, I'll leave you to begin. Links and other reference to your theories would also be much appreciated.

[equestrian]

Lourwind says
Which tells me you're information is unproven or garbage (but) Since you are the person with this information, I'll leave you to begin. Links and other reference to your theories would also be much appreciated.

eq) Forget you!

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[Lourwind]

Lourwind says

eq) Forget you!

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Which confirms my belief that you are ignorant, and your information non existent.

[equestrian]

Lourwind - I find your manner not to my liking so find the answers your own self

[lycanox]

There is nothing mysterious about the Rosetta stone.
It was never intended as a mystic object or such. But just a piece of rock that happened to contain translations of the same story for some reason.

It would be similar as archeologists from the year 5000 finding a piece of candy wrapping carelessly thrown away in the former New York. .
And using the ingredient list translated in various languages that usually are on those wrappings to translate languages they could not yet read at that point.

[equestrian]

lycanox
There is nothing mysterious about the Rosetta stone. It was never intended as a mystic object or such. But just a piece of rock that happened to contain translations of the same story for some reason

eq) and that some reason is ....?

And the person or persons that carved it are ...?

And the reason that the hieroglyphs used by the Pyramid Texts was included as one of them is ...?

And the reason that one is Greek is ...?

And you know that there is nothing mysterious or mystic about the Rosetta stone because ...?

[Lourwind]

Lourwind - I find your manner not to my liking so find the answers your own self

Oh and am I supposed to act snobby like you and act all high and mighty just because people don't act like you? You sir, are the rude one.

I'd go as far as saying you're a forum troll from the posts I've read.

[Rabid1]

eq) and that some reason is ....?

It was common in that time. The Rosetta stone is not unique, no mystery. It was siply the first of it's king to be found.



And the person or persons that carved it are ...?

It was a decree by Egyption priests celebrating a new king.



And the reason that the hieroglyphs used by the Pyramid Texts was included as one of them is ...?

Because hieroglyphs were the script of the priests at that time.



And the reason that one is Greek is ...?

It was the language of the trade and government



And you know that there is nothing mysterious or mystic about the Rosetta stone because ...?

See 1st response. Also decrees like this were done on stone opposed to papyrus because they were meant to last for enternity.

[Prometheus]

Lourwind - I find your manner not to my liking so find the answers your own self



DAMN!


No wonder they SHOOT horses!

[equestrian]

You are on the wrong thread Prometheus - I don't like smart mouthed know-it-alls or those that peddle filth

Your signature shows that you fit both categories
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[Lourwind]

You are on the wrong thread Prometheus - I don't like smart mouthed know-it-alls or those that peddle filth

Your signature shows that you fit both categories
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Then your existence on this forum will be a lonely one with nobody to talk too.

[equestrian]

Wrong you don't talk to smart mouthed know-it-alls or those that peddle filth - you remind them of what they are -

[Lourwind]

OH really? Well I better listen to you, since we all must conform and obey your beliefs on how we all should act. Apparently I need to remind you that you're rude, arrogant and have a lack social skills. Your ego is only exceeded by your lack of manners you have no ability to discuss on any social medium.

Amidoinitrite?

Before you lay judgement down upon others, you should consider the same upon yourself. You can't expect everyone to follow your rules, it's a free world. Free thought and expression exist.

Deal with it.

[equestrian]

Lourwind
OH really? Well I better listen to you, since we all must conform and obey your beliefs on how we all should act.

eq) No no! act as you will - just do it somewhere else

eq
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[Lourwind]

Lourwind

eq) No no! act as you will - just do it somewhere else

eq
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There would be no need for this had you just been nice, and posted a topic, with intent of course to actually discuss with others reasonably.

So, with that said. I will remain.

[Prometheus]

You are on the wrong thread Prometheus - I don't like smart mouthed know-it-alls or those that peddle filth

Your signature shows that you fit both categories
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Actually, Equaltonothingatall - right thread. You're in a few right now and consistently posting nonsense without evidence, getting pissed when called on it and generally carrying on like a wombat on heat.

Filth? LOL. I tell it as it can be seen. You on the other hand make it up as you go along. Come on - back one thing in any thread you've started with evidence. Verifiable, pristine and linked to anything other than your statements or a fruitcake on a blogsite.

Holding breath.... Not

[GamerGal]

Peddle filth? WTF? And I don't get what the OP was about. Is it asking who made them? Why made? How? Where? When? How? Aliens? Bigfoot? Jews? Inner Earth People? Other made up/not real groups?(If you don't get the joke I listed Bigfoot with groups/things that aren't real acting as though I don't know Bigfoot is just left over Gigantipithicus Blacki)

[Prometheus]

I listed Bigfoot with groups/things that aren't real acting as though I don't know Bigfoot is just left over Gigantipithicus Blacki)

Now... Seriously GG. Gigantipithicus Blacki's range was Eastern Asia, a little north of modern day Bejing to the northern steppes of India. Now, everybody knows "old hairy" is actually a neanderthal, de-evolved and riddled with a gigantism genetic fail. Known to some Indian tribes by the mystical name of....

"Lycanox". Photographic evidence exists:


http://forums.armageddononline.org/customavatars/avatar1941_1.gif


Which clearly shows two beady red eyes peering out behind the tail of a dingo. Which is even more confusing than some of the strange mutterings, rumbles and growls that echo through the forums of AO on moonlit nights.



But don't worry, Tom Biscardi tells me a couple of hicks in Georgia have captured the Lycanox - er - Big Foot - and have mounted him in a freezer (which sounds utterly perverted, now I come to think about it)

:nana::nana::thumbs:

[GamerGal]

Gigantipithicus Blacki did have that range, but so did the people. Until they moved north, went east across the Bering Land Strait, and in to America. Why couldn't the Blacki have done the same? And while thought extinct is just rare, like other animals that have gone extinct only found later?

[Prometheus]

Gigantipithicus Blacki did have that range, but so did the people. Until they moved north, went east across the Bering Land Strait, and in to America. Why couldn't the Blacki have done the same? And while thought extinct is just rare, like other animals that have gone extinct only found later?

Have you bitten into Lycanox? I'd call him "pretty rare". Needs a lot more cooking... :thumbs:

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Serious Cryptozoology Mode
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Pith Helmet on and donning my Loren Coleman facemask for a moment...

If BF exists, or still exists or even once existed, his origin remains a mystery, beyond wild speculation. If the species is found to exist (hopefully without the aid of a lump of led) it'd probably turn modern science (and religion) on it's head. Most "living fossil" finds tend to do that.

Cases in point:

The gorilla (early 1900's).
The Panda (early 1930's).
A number of Ungulates discovered in recent years.
Giant Squids.
Al Gore (interesting, but no definitive genetic evidence is forthcoming on origins).

Giganto? Maybe. Or something we haven't found yet - or as a forest dwelling critter, has left zero trace, much like chimps have little by way of fossil remains as forests do not provide ideal "fossil making" environments, with remains disapearing within days.

Giganto - or a similar miocene ape *could* have migrated. If the species did - brilliant! The thing with apes though is they tend to follow territory similar to that of their niche. They are specialists, humans are generalists. Ape niches are more narrow than, say, mammoth species, big cats etc.


The one that really interests me right now is New Scientists editor stating his money is on a south Asia find of a living homonid.


:2thumbs:

[Lourwind]

Tom Biscardi tells me a couple of hicks in Georgia have captured the Lycanox - er - Big Foot - and have mounted him in a freezer (which sounds utterly perverted, now I come to think about it)

:nana::nana::thumbs:

How dare you peddle filth in eQuestrian's thread! All must OBEY eQuestrian! OBEY! :spy:

So, anyone else actually got information on this stone and figure? Can't let this thread be a total fail.

[Prometheus]

How dare you peddle filth in eQuestrian's thread! All must OBEY eQuestrian! OBEY! :spy:

Now... Where did I hear that recently? "OBEY!"


Oh yeah! I remember:




http://maxbunny.com/doctorwho/Pictures/Daleks/NewDalek1.jpg

[Rabid1]

There would be no need for this had you just been nice, and posted a topic, with intent of course to actually discuss with others reasonably.

So, with that said. I will remain.

He is incapable of being civil or nice. Mr. James Bowles is the self appointed moral and ethical compass of the world. To address him casually is an affront to the prim, proper, and decent. To disagree with his nonsense is heresy in the highest.

There are 2 types of educators. The first wants to truly help the students in their charge grow and expand. They nurture a thirst for learning in their students by keeping their minds open to new ideas and concepts.
The second want to dominate and break the students minds, bending them to their own narrow and limited view. They are self righteous in the knowledge that anyone who does not agree with them is a fool and beneath them. Teaching to them is an act of superiority and control.

The first type tends to do well in the real world. The second troll online because the real world see’s them for petty, unkind, and bitter.

Which category might Mr. James Bowles fit into? Hmmmm….

[equestrian]

Rabid1
There are 2 types

eq) You got that right - the filthy mouthed and the Smart Mouthed know it alls

If you want to fish in my pond - than leave your ugly manners at the door - I have no tolerance for either of them -

And it is the source of immense satisfaction that the filthy and smart mouthed on this forum have already gotten as close to the secret of The Cerne Abbas Giant and the mystery of the Rosetta Stone as they'll ever get

eq
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[lycanox]

[SIZE="2"]lycanox

eq) and that some reason is ....?
Most likely just to communicate something to other people that did not read the other languages. No reason to suspect something of any importance.
As we do the same on fast food.


And the person or persons that carved it are ...?
Just people that appearently wanted to spread the news about a royal figure in Egypt.



And the reason that the hieroglyphs used by the Pyramid Texts was included as one of them is ...?
By that logic a Twinkie must be a very important object as its label is written in the same language as they use in congress.


And the reason that one is Greek is ...?
They wanted the Greeks to be able to read the message.


And you know that there is nothing mysterious or mystic about the Rosetta stone because ...?
Because we already know whats written on it. And whats on it is of very little importance. As it is just an story about a young royal figure. Not the mystery of life or anything in that direction.

In fact, 99 percent of the stuff dug up by archaeologists had little or no value at their time. And are only now considered valuable because they tell us something about that time.

[equestrian]

lycanox you are yapping up the wrong tree

Everything you wrote is wrong - and the convenience with which you choose your words shows you're just trying to fool everyone

The Rosetta Stone was fashioned for the sole purpose of providing a deciphering tool to preserve the ability to read the hieroglyphs used in forming what we now call the Ancient Egyptian Pyramid Texts

The Greek and Demonic scripts were included with the Egyptian hieroglyphs as a double means of deciphering

Your response and those that use vulgar language and smart mouthed replies serve no purpose other than to steal opportunity away from those that might have a legitimate interest

eq
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[lycanox]

lycanox you are yapping up the wrong tree

Everything you wrote is wrong - and the convenience with which you choose your words shows you're just trying to fool everyone
What do you mean. That I dont use big scientific words mean my point is invalid.


The Rosetta Stone was fashioned for the sole purpose of providing a deciphering tool to preserve the ability to read the hieroglyphs used in forming what we now call the Ancient Egyptian Pyramid Texts

The Greek and Demonic scripts were included with the Egyptian hieroglyphs as a double means of deciphering

And you base that on what exactly?

The stories in the pyramids were never meant to be read by the living.
From the constructors point of view. Even walking inside one is a huge insult to the gods and those buried in the pyramids.
And they would definitively not leave handy stones behind on purpose. With the purpose of getting us to go inside and read them.

Besides, if those stones were created with the purpose of translation. Then why did they contain a story about royalty, and not instructions to translate such text. Or why didn't they just write the stories in three languages in the pyramid to begin with.


Your response and those that use vulgar language and smart mouthed replies serve no purpose other than to steal opportunity away from those that might have a legitimate interest

eq
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And I think my points would be of interest to those with a legitimate interest.

[equestrian]

lycanox
What do you mean. That I don't use big scientific words mean my point is invalid.

eq) No! That you make things up as you go along and you think everyone is taken in

lycanox
they would definitively not leave handy stones behind on purpose. With the purpose of getting us to go inside and read them.

eq) That is the most half-witted statement that anyone will find on the Internet

The builders of the Pyramids c2500 B.C., were not the ones that sculpted the Rosetta stone. One of the scripts was a later Egyptian Demonic script and didn't exist at the time the pyramids of Saqqara were built

The text itself relates in part to the coronation of King Ptolemy V, a date that equates to March 27 196 B.C.

A rather pathetic try lycanox

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[Rabid1]

lycanox you are yapping up the wrong tree

Everything you wrote is wrong - and the convenience with which you choose your words shows you're just trying to fool everyone

The Rosetta Stone was fashioned for the sole purpose of providing a deciphering tool to preserve the ability to read the hieroglyphs used in forming what we now call the Ancient Egyptian Pyramid Texts

The Greek and Demonic scripts were included with the Egyptian hieroglyphs as a double means of deciphering

Your response and those that use vulgar language and smart mouthed replies serve no purpose other than to steal opportunity away from those that might have a legitimate interest

eq
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Actually he is not wrong. His answers are simiar to mine and correct. Any assumption that the stone was created as a deciphering tool is pure fantasy and has no fact whatsoever to back it up. As I mentioned before the Rosetta Stone is not unique. It was common to make bi-lingual and tri-lingual tablets.

[lycanox]

lycanox

eq) No! That you make things up as you go along and you think everyone is taken in


lycanox

eq) That is the most half-witted statement that anyone will find on the InternetSays the person that complains about people having a foul language.


The builders of the Pyramids c2500 B.C., were not the ones that sculpted the Rosetta stone. One of the scripts was a later Egyptian Demonic script and didn't exist at the time the pyramids of Saqqara were built

The text itself relates in part to the coronation of King Ptolemy V, a date that equates to March 27 196 B.C.

A rather pathetic try lycanox

The huge age difference between the pyramids and the stone only adds to the argument that the two are not related.

And again, if the whole goal was to spread the stories written in the pyramids. Why not just send translations of those to the foreign nations.

[equestrian]

lycanox
The huge age difference between the pyramids and the stone only adds to the argument that the two are not related.

eq) That statement proves you are making things up as you go along - so there is no purpose in any further dialog with you

The relationship is not (as in never was) between the Rosetta stone and the pyramids - it is (and always was between the Rosetta stone and the hieroglyphic texts). These texts are found on/in coffins, on the walls of the temples and elsewhere -

I find it useless to continue when your responses are contrived

bye

eq
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[lycanox]

Yet here you claim they were to make sure that everybody could read the text in the pyramids.




The Rosetta Stone was fashioned for the sole purpose of providing a deciphering tool to preserve the ability to read the hieroglyphs used in forming what we now call the Ancient Egyptian Pyramid Texts
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And you still haven't answered why they didn't just translate the text they wanted people to read.

[equestrian]

No - not true - you've just been so enthralled by your own fabrications that you've missed everything that's been going on around you

Fact is lycanox, you just quoted the answer but didn't understand what you were doing


The Rosetta Stone was fashioned for the sole purpose of providing a deciphering tool to preserve the ability to read the hieroglyphs used in forming what we now call the Ancient Egyptian Pyramid Texts

Now I'll quote myself from a previous post
This same form of texts are found on/in coffins, on the walls of the temples and elsewhere -

eq
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[lycanox]

Yet those are still no reason to believe that the Rosetta stone was specifically created to allow other groups to translate them.

As the rock does not contain tips or instructions to translate the language. Only tree times the same insignificant story on the same rock.

[equestrian]

lynanox
And you still haven't answered why they didn't just translate the text they wanted people to read.

eq) Are you drunk or something - you're making no sense at all

eq
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[Fut004]

Equestrian, both Rabid1 and lycanox have posted completely reasonable explanations to the Rosetta Stone. You've shot them down completely, but have not supported your reasons with anything. Don't you think it would be completely normal for you to explain why they are wrong as opposed to just calling them names and such?

Also, please go back to your original thought a bit, and explain how The Rosetta Stone relates to that Cerne Giant.

Lastly;



If you want to fish in my pond - than leave your ugly manners at the door - I have no tolerance for either of them

Take a look at your join date, Dipshit. This isn't your pond.

[Prometheus]

lynanox

eq) Are you drunk or something - you're making no sense at all

eq
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http://static1.channels.com/thumbnails/-rofl--large-quicktime---f184545.jpg


:ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy::ohmy:

[lycanox]

lynanox

eq) Are you drunk or something - you're making no sense at all

eq
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So in your opinion it makes perfectly sense to send stones into the world, with no instructions on how to translate an language whats o ever. But just stories written in 3 different language.
With the intention of allowing other people to learn your language so they can read your messages in an temple miles away they have never heard off.

But not to just translate those messages yourself and send those in three languages away to the people you want to let read or preserve those messages.

[Fut004]

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But not to just translate those messages yourself and send those in three languages away to the people you want to let read or preserve those messages.

That's the part of your argument that makes the most sense. If the point of the stones was to allow people to read these sacred messages, they would have just wrote those sacred messages down and shipped them off.
I couldn't agree with you more right now, Lyc.


Has anybody found anything online that even hints at the "Cerne Abbas Giant" being related in any way at all to the Rosetta Stone?

[Prometheus]

That's the part of your argument that makes the most sense. If the point of the stones was to allow people to read these sacred messages, they would have just wrote those sacred messages down and shipped them off.
I couldn't agree with you more right now, Lyc.


Has anybody found anything online that even hints at the "Cerne Abbas Giant" being related in any way at all to the Rosetta Stone?

Yes. See first link below:

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=Cerne+Abbas+Giant+%2B+rosetta+stone&pws=0&hl=en&num=10


Must be "proof" - huh? :2thumbs:

[Fut004]

Yes. See first link below:

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=Cerne+Abbas+Giant+%2B+rosetta+stone&pws=0&hl=en&num=10


Must be "proof" - huh? :2thumbs:


HAHAHA. Dude, that was awesome.
I actually thought you had found something small to tie them together. Little did I know that you found hard evidence. Well played, Prometheus, well played.

[GamerGal]

Hey! I used the google link and found an interesting discussion just like the one here!
http://forums.armageddononline.org/cerne-abbas-giant-t24759.html?p=372016

[Lourwind]

Equestrian, both Rabid1 and lycanox have posted completely reasonable explanations to the Rosetta Stone. You've shot them down completely, but have not supported your reasons with anything. Don't you think it would be completely normal for you to explain why they are wrong as opposed to just calling them names and such?

Also, please go back to your original thought a bit, and explain how The Rosetta Stone relates to that Cerne Giant.

Lastly;



Take a look at your join date, Dipshit. This isn't your pond.


That's because he doesn't have any evidence floating in his pond to back up his wild theories. Just like his thread on tectonics.