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Jul 16th, 2004, 9:50 PM
I heard somethign in CNN(uhh around midnight here in New York) that i wasn't too sure but it's either Bush or Kerry that wanted to divide the nation by race?!?!?
Did anybody else heard about this??!?!?!?
7 Years of Tribulation thingy?!?!?!?
Jul 16th, 2004, 9:53 PM
Bush's refusal to speak before the NAACP has some people saying things like that but I'm sure neither candidate would admit to saying anything like dividing America up along ethnic lines. That would be political suicide.
Jul 16th, 2004, 10:18 PM
I guarantee neither candidate said that.
And the reason Bush wouldn't speak to the NAACP is because of the outlandish attacks on his person.** And he told the NAACP that he would speak to them if they offered an apology but they refused.
**Bill O'Reilly, Michael Savage. www.billyoreilly.com www.savagenation.com
Jul 17th, 2004, 12:15 AM
Nobody would be dumb enough to say anything like that while running for president....it is a political suicide.
The Black go here and the white go here while the people in the middle go up here.
See Anime, it makes no sense what so ever! You probably mis understood it. Its alright :sleeping: . And I need to speak with you.....
Jul 17th, 2004, 9:01 PM
I found a full article about Kerry blaming bush about dividing the nation by race (which is unfair because as everyone could see that we are happy the way we are..)
I hope history is not repeating itself....
Updated: 10:57 PM EDT
Kerry Tells NAACP Bush Is Dividing the Nation
By RON FOURNIER, AP
PHILADELPHIA (July 15) -- Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry accused President Bush on Thursday of dividing America by race and riches, taking advantage of a White House feud with the NAACP to declare himself a leader of ''all of the people.''
With Bush refusing to address the civil rights group, most of whose members support Democrats, Kerry said Bush ''may be too busy to talk to you, but I have news for you: he's going to have plenty of time after Nov. 2,'' which is Election Day.
Bush skipped the annual convention to protest the NAACP's criticism of his policies, but will address another influential black organization, the Urban League, next week.
''The current leadership of the NAACP has clearly crossed the line in partisanship and civility, making it impossible to have a constructive dialogue,'' White House spokesman Dan Bartlett said.
The Republican incumbent has not spoken to the NAACP since the 2000 campaign, when the NAACP National Voter Fund ran an ad that portrayed Bush as unsympathetic to the dragging death of James Byrd in Texas.
Since that campaign, which angered many blacks who complained they were disenfranchised by confusing ballots and mechanical errors in Florida, the NAACP has called Bush an illegal president, compared his anti-abortion views to the Taliban and called his trip to Africa a photo-op.
Bartlett said Bush was at odds with NAACP leaders, not his ''many friends who belong to the NAACP.'' Nonetheless, his absence was viewed as a snub.
Connecticut, said Bush, ''showed disrespect to the people of this country and convention by not coming.'' NAACP Chairman Julian Bond mocked Bush for avoiding a hostile crowd. ''If he didn't go anywhere people criticize him, he'd never leave home,'' Bond said.
With the soul anthem ''We are Family'' blaring, Kerry cut through the crowd, shaking hands and patting backs, before delivering an address tailored toward the supportive - yet skeptical - black community.
''We learned our lesson in 2000,'' he said of the disputed election recount, ''and I add my voice to those who have vowed: Never again.''
In a foreign policy tracked closely by blacks, Kerry said as president he would use ''the full weight of American leadership'' to help stop genocide in Sudan. A spokeswoman said that could include military force, but not as a first step.
Otherwise sticking to his stump speech, Kerry said repeatedly, ''We can do better!'' as he outlined his plans to improve education, health care, civil rights and the economy. He said the unemployment rate for blacks is 10 percent, twice the rate for whites.
Though polls show Democratic voters united against Bush, the Democratic presidential candidate is not beyond reproach from black leaders. They want more minorities on Kerry's staff and several members of the Congressional Black Caucus demanded changes in new TV ads geared toward black voters.
Black leaders, including some who advise Kerry's campaign, privately worry about perceptions that the four-term Massachusetts senator has shallow ties to their community compared to the last two Democratic nominees, Al Gore and Bill Clinton, who were both Southerners.
While Kerry will likely match Gore's 9-to-1 advantage with blacks on Nov. 2, they said, Republican tactics and Kerry failings could suppress turnout.
There was no sign of unease at the NAACP as the crowd shouted words of encouragement - including ''We love you!'' - and Kerry denounced Bush's absence. ''When you're president, you need to talk to all of the people, and that's exactly what I intend to do,'' he said.
In a slap at Bush, the senator said, ''I will be a president who is truly a uniter, not one who seeks to divide one nation by race or riches or by another label.''
In Washington, Bush's education secretary, Rod Paige, criticized the NAACP. ''You do not own, and you are not the arbiters of, African-American authenticity,'' said Paige, who is black.
Bush's campaign began airing ads on black radio stations in urban centers, calling Kerry's Senate record extreme and spotty.
After leaving Pennsylvania, a state narrowly won by Democrat Al Gore in 2000, Kerry campaigned in West Virginia, a traditionally Democratic state that backed Bush in 2000.
''I think it's time that we have a president who doesn't just talk about family values, but values families,'' Kerry said in Charleston, W.Va. His advisers believe Gore lost the state because he did not appeal to social conservative Democrats who put a high premium on values such as faith, family and gun rights.
07/15/04 22:46 EDT
Jul 17th, 2004, 9:32 PM
Well isnt this a great time for kerry to make crap up to make bush look bad??? Anime dont believe everything in politics.
Jul 17th, 2004, 10:22 PM
And the reason Bush wouldn't speak to the NAACP is because of the outlandish attacks on his person.** I'm not a great fan of the NAACP CF but the remarks by the NAACP may explain Bush's absence this year. What about the past 3 years?
Jul 18th, 2004, 1:29 AM
You have to understand Kerrys disposition, If anyone is separating the country by Race it would be JOhn KErry. He came to by state (denver,colorado) to try and swing the hispanic vote his way. (republicans have only lost 1 time in Colorado its not a swing state His intend was purely based on race) Bush's refusal to speak to the NAACP was a great move. He stood by his Standards, the NAACP has attacked Bush since he's been in office.
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The attacks from the NAACP started when Bush was first campaigning to become President. Calling him a "bigot" and the Racist Texan. The NAACP commented on his Record while he held office in texas and proudly annouced he refused too help the African American poor. Bush simply asked for an apology on the remarks they made because after review of his record they where Fabricated lies (which has been admitted to the A.P.). So I believe Bush has been just in his decision not too speak to the NAACP they lied and complained and Bush was willing to forgive with just a simple apology of admitting one's wrongs.
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Jul 18th, 2004, 4:46 AM
Well isnt this a great time for kerry to make crap up to make bush look bad??? Anime dont believe everything in politics. There is no need to make up anything about Bush as he has said enough.
The attacks from the NAACP started when Bush was first campaigning to become President. Calling him a "bigot" and the Racist Texan. Boy the NAACP peged him from the begining! hahahhah
Jul 18th, 2004, 12:54 PM
Bush not going to the NAACP gathering and Kerry's outlandish comments certainly arent proof positive that Bush wants to divide by race whether its for campaign purposes or not. Thats ridiculous.
However, Bush does have quite a long history (as in over the years, not in amount of comments) of making comments that can be taken as him judging people by race. His history in regards to American Indians has been a rather cold one.
Jul 18th, 2004, 1:35 PM
Bush Jr.'s Skeleton Closet http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm Them bones still rattle, them dry bones!
Jul 18th, 2004, 3:53 PM
Bush Jr.'s Skeleton Closet http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm Them bones still rattle, them dry bones! Thats a cool article, but I couldnt find anything about his opinion of race. Would you point it out please?
Jul 18th, 2004, 4:30 PM
Your right DN I couldnt either. Thank you for keeping me in line. :D
Jul 18th, 2004, 6:35 PM
Your right DN I couldnt either. Thank you for keeping me in line. :D I dont want to keep you in line. Just sharing edumacation and asking for more myself. <wink> :nudge:
Jul 18th, 2004, 9:08 PM
I found yet again another article enstating that Bush might go with the STUPID idea of dividing the nation....
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July 15, 2004, 11:52 AM EDT
PHILADELPHIA -- Democrat John Kerry, taking advantage of a spat between the NAACP and the White House, accused President Bush on Thursday of dividing America by race and wealth, and promised as president to represent "all of the people."
"The president may be too busy to talk to you," Kerry told the partisan crowd, "but I have news for you: He's going to have plenty of time after Nov. 2."
Bush rejected an invitation to address the NAACP. He has not spoken to the civil rights group since the 2000 campaign, when the NAACP National Voter Fund ran an ad that portrayed Bush as unsympathetic to the dragging death of James Byrd in Texas.
Since the campaign, leaders of the NAACP have called Bush an illegal president, compared his anti-abortion views to the Taliban and called his trip to Africa a photo-op. A Bush spokesman blasted the NAACP on Thursday.
The president "has many friends who belong to the NAACP and respects their proud history of championing civil rights," White House communications director Dan Bartlett said. "Differences of opinion and opposing views are of course part of the national debate. Yet the current leadership of the NAACP has clearly crossed the line in partisanship and civility, making it impossible to have a constructive dialogue."
"Despite the current leadership's intolerant views, President Bush will continue to reach out to members of the NAACP and African-Americans from across the country," he said. Bush addresses the Urban League, another civil rights group, next week.
His campaign began airing ads on black radio stations in Philadelphia, site of Kerry's address, as well as Detroit, St. Louis, Kansas City, Mo., Cleveland, Toledo, Ohio, and Milwaukee. It calls the Massachusetts senator's voting record "extreme" and spotty.
NAACP chairman Julian Bond poked fun at Bush for refusing to address the group because of its criticism.
"If he didn't go anywhere people criticize him, he'd never leave home," Bond said, drawing laughter.
In Washington, Bush's education secretary, Rod Paige, took aim at Bond and NAACP president Kweisi Mfume for what he called "hateful and untruthful rhetoric about Republicans and President Bush." At the convention, NAACP officials have described some black organizations as mouthpieces of white conservatives and have said Bush's education law disproportionately hurts minorities.
When Kerry took his turn on stage to the soul anthem "We are Family," he said, "I will be a president who is truly a uniter, not one who seeks to divide one nation by race or riches or by any other label."
He noted the high unemployment rate for blacks, and said Bush had not done enough to improve education, the economy and civil rights for all Americans, including blacks.
After his speech to the NAACP, Kerry was beginning his "Front Porch Tour" in Philadelphia suburb of Lansdowne. The Kerry campaign is putting a new spin on an old technique -- trying to get the candidate more time sharing concerns with regular Americans.
While Kerry is visiting with voters in the swing state of Pennsylvania, his running mate John Edwards will be visiting voters on a front porch in New Orleans. Although Kerry and Edwards were officially kicking off what they say will be a regular feature of their campaign trips, Kerry sat with voters on their porch at least once before.
Last month in Columbus, Ohio, Kerry chatted with two sisters who brought out iced tea and talked about the struggles of raising their kids in a tough economy. The normal intimacy of a front-porch chat was somewhat disrupted by the glare of the flood lights brought in by the campaign and more than a dozen national journalists and staff who watched from the lawn.
Kerry said the importance of the porch visits is "going to the homes of ordinary citizens across this nation and talking with them about the values that matter most to them -- values you live by every day -- family, responsibility, service, opportunity, inclusion, fairness, faith."
Jul 18th, 2004, 10:40 PM
AnimeFreak, all you are posting is opinion and commentary. It is Kerry's "opinion" Bush is trying to divide races. If you are going to bring this up as fact you will need more than just two articles about the same thing as proof. As such you will need much more than this to prove it to this Bush hater.
Ill give you proof that Bush isnt trying to divide us by races and its one of the reasons I cant stand him. Bush has done nothing to protect Indian soveriegnty which is federal law. He'd rather that our unique status dissapear.
Indians oppose Bush court nominee (http://www.montanaforum.com/rednews/2004/03/25/build/tribal/myers-court.php?nnn=3) “He has a clear lack of understanding” of tribal sovereignty, said Anthony Miranda, chairman of the California Nations Indian Gaming Association.
Indians blast Bush energy plan (http://www.pww.org/article/view/735/1/57/) From 2002 - WASHINGTON – Backed up by Native American leaders from across the country, Alaska’s Gwich’in people assailed the Bush administration Feb. 11 for scheming to turn over to greedy oil companies their ancestral lands in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR).
Indians warily watching Bush (http://firstname.lastname@example.org/msg04983.html) This occured pre election. Just another case of Bush's ignorance of Indian soveriegnty and issues. The (Syracuse) Post-Standard quoted Bush as saying, ``My view is that state law reigns
supreme when it comes to the Indians, whether it be gambling or any other issue.''
In fact, every election year the National Congress of the American Indian sends each candidate a questionaire asking the candidates their beliefs and proposed policies regarding Indian issues. As far as I know, Bush has not answered either questionaire.
Kerry has and has posted it on his website. Whether or not he keeps with his proposals remains to be seen if he is elected.
Supporting and protecting Indian rights is not a devisive ideal, but it does protect out unique ideas and culture.
Politicians will and do say damn near anything to get elected. We can stop this kind of crap by not spreading it in the first place. Just because its manure does not mean it is fertilizer.
Jul 19th, 2004, 12:20 AM
The NAACP pegged Bush from the beginning? no... Considering the NAACP comments where admitted as lies.
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**If you want an example of politicians (democrats) dividing America by race, Do a google search for the billboard in Mass. (or mississippi) Which depecits a picture of a Black man and on the side it reads "The future of Republicans... You're not part of it). This doesn't even compares to Bush, not speaking too the NAACP. The democrats hung up a bigoted banner depicting a nation divided by Race. (albeit you never here about this on CNN though)
**source: hannity.com (look around the site you my still be able too see it there) www.foxnews.com (hannity and colms section should still be on there)
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Jul 19th, 2004, 1:31 AM
In fact, every election year the National Congress of the American Indian sends each candidate a questionaire asking the candidates their beliefs and proposed policies regarding Indian issues. As far as I know, Bush has not answered either questionaire. That figures, that son of a Bush. I am honored to be living where the native indians once roamed. I was born here but some how I feel it more belonging to the natives. Am I out of line? I am married to a Yucatan indian women and I am so happy with her simplicity and devotion to me and to our children. good day!
Jul 20th, 2004, 12:35 AM
That figures, that son of a Bush. I am honored to be living where the native indians once roamed. I was born here but some how I feel it more belonging to the natives. Am I out of line? I am married to a Yucatan indian women and I am so happy with her simplicity and devotion to me and to our children. good day!Youre not out of line. I just hope that the things you are happy about in your wife are really based in her own traditions, not that they have been changed so much that they are unrecognizable.
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