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Reef Badlaw
Oct 4th, 2010, 12:43 PM
hahahahaha... Beck and Palin draw who knows how many hundreds of thousands to the mall on 8/28... The Democrats' Unite America, or whatever they were calling it, barely draws 500-to-750... what an unmistakable signpost for the current state of the Left.

Tell me how irrelevant the TEA Party is again... I forget...

Tell me again, how Beck and Palin are " -trifles, as light as air. "

Hahahahaha... a wall-to-wall crowd-jammed mall vs. a virtually empty mall. During Saturday's rally, broadcast live on CSPAN2, I could see the entire Washington monument and its entire reflection... There was so much green grass exposed, I felt like I was watching The Ryder Cup.

GamerGal
Oct 4th, 2010, 12:51 PM
Only Glenn Beck and the TP/GOP claim millions showed up.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100829000837AAA2YIC

Non Republican/TP sources? 90k-150k
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2579620/posts


Also I wouldn't be bragging about the largest KKK rally in 30 years being held by the TP/GOP.

JenaS62
Oct 4th, 2010, 12:54 PM
:troll:

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GamerGal
Oct 4th, 2010, 1:14 PM
:troll:

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Let me guess, TL:DR? Links have numbers, can you read numbers? Or are they also TL:DR?

Blu-ray
Oct 4th, 2010, 2:05 PM
I can't find much on it but this op-ed. http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-One-Nation-Rally--Ti-by-Timothy-Gatto-101003-197.html

I can't find an actual number of attendance though.

Oh wait. I just found this article from the Washington Square News. Says 175,000 per the organizers.

http://nyunews.com/news/2010/10/03/04march/

GamerGal
Oct 4th, 2010, 2:20 PM
You mean Jena and Reef lied again? Why are we not surprised?

Blu-ray
Oct 4th, 2010, 2:23 PM
Not saying they lied. I don't have enough information to draw an opinion on the matter.

JenaS62
Oct 4th, 2010, 2:44 PM
So let me see if I have this right. During the Glenn Beck rally, the mall was totally full, people as far as the eye could see and the left estimates that there were under 150K there. But at the One Nation Working together rally the mall was far from full but the left estimates that there were 175K. Got it.


Images from the One Nation rally

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/30459/one-nation-rally-if-youre-going-to-throw-a-political-gathering-you-need-a-celebrity/


Image from the Glenn Beck rally:

http://antzinpantz.com/kns/images/AUG10/aerial-shot-glenn-beck-8.28-rally-550x366.jpg

MaximumPain
Oct 4th, 2010, 2:54 PM
can we really trust someones politically motivated estimate about how many people attended their rally? That goes for both sides. I fully expect that Backs rally was and would be bigger based solely on name recognition and tea party affiliation.

It disgusts me when people lie about this shit its part of the root problem with our current political conundrum. The powers that control have us fighting with each other while they laugh all the way to that off shore bank.

GamerGal
Oct 4th, 2010, 3:06 PM
http://pajamasmedia.com/files/2010/08/ed-frank-photo.jpg Look at all that grass at the GB rally. Because people not Glenn Beck/Fox say at most 150,000


The Actual Numbers Are Elusive, writes Mark Memmott at NPR. Organizers for the "One Nation" rally say their crowd size was 175,000 people. Meanwhile Beck estimated his rally at 500,000. "Bear in mind that CBS News paid for some analysis of the crowd size at Beck's rally and was told that about 87,000 folks came," writes Memmott.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/atlantic/20101003/cm_atlantic/didtheliberalonenationrallydrawalargercrowdthangle nnbecksevent5253_1

lycanox
Oct 4th, 2010, 3:53 PM
The amount of people showing up at rallies does not determine which party has the best ideas. Only which party has the most voters willing to show up to rallies.

Beatnik Bob
Oct 4th, 2010, 4:15 PM
The amount of people showing up at rallies does not determine which party has the best ideas. Only which party has the most voters willing to show up to rallies.
And people who go to rallies will vote.

The problem is members of the Democratic party don't like to go out and vote unless they don't have control of something (WH, House, Senate...).

Ideas don't factor here. Power factors here. And right now we are on the brink of a regime change. For better or for worse.

If everyone eligible voted, this would be a different story. But Democrats are extremely apathetic. They just don't care. Democrats are generally a more urban demographic (even cities like Houston/Dallas cast a fair amount of Democratic votes, despite the fact TX is a red state), which means they are by default going to just be more on the indifferent side. Aka, it's a pop-culture party.
It all comes with the territory of being a primarily commercial party. Not that all politics isn't commercial, but right now Democrats are up against a grass-roots movement.
They seriously better use their brains... Or they will lose power. No vote=no power.

lycanox
Oct 4th, 2010, 4:22 PM
And people who go to rallies will vote.
People who don't go to rallies also vote.

And since it was only an extremely small fraction that showed up on both rallies. Its hard to say what it means in an election.

Beatnik Bob
Oct 4th, 2010, 4:32 PM
People who don't go to rallies also vote.

And since it was only an extremely small fraction that showed up on both rallies. Its hard to say what it means in an election.
It means that, if rallies are any indicator, the Democratic base is less likely to take part in political movement.

I can assure you that the people who showed up to the TP rally are only a fraction also--a fraction of the people who are going to vote TP.

And this could be bad for America. It just depends. What I see when I see TP candidates are people who are a little on the insane side.
I'm not speaking bad about the TP or what it stands for, but the actual people who are being elected to this party aren't remotely bright.
But then again, that's just apart of living in a Republic. Which I'm not going to complain about.

lycanox
Oct 4th, 2010, 4:38 PM
It means that, if rallies are any indicator, the Democratic base is less likely to take part in political movement.
However, rallies are extremely unreliable indicators. As even the location or the weather can severely cut an audience.

Beatnik Bob
Oct 4th, 2010, 4:57 PM
However, rallies are extremely unreliable indicators. As even the location or the weather can severely cut an audience.
That's the point.
If 85,000+ Tea Partiers were willing to travel hundreds to thousands of miles across the country for a rally in D.C. to support a movement, it's unlikely they would be hindered by weather or the distance to the voting booth.

Democrats may be stopped by such factors. As well as being plain apathetic, which they are--regardless of rally attendance.

Reef Badlaw
Oct 5th, 2010, 12:08 AM
It was Bush's fault. It was Bush's fault. It was Bush's fault. It was Bush's fault. It was Bush's fault. It was Bush's fault. It was Bush's fault. It was Bush's fault. It was...

* crickets... distant coyote-lament... tumbleweeds swept-along by dust-bowl caprice... *

" Thanks, Mr. Bellafonte... Our next speaker is... "

GamerGal
Oct 5th, 2010, 12:22 AM
It is. Or do you think Obama had a time machine and went back to before he was president and started destroying the economy? Dumbass.

Beatnik Bob
Oct 6th, 2010, 5:36 PM
It is. Or do you think Obama had a time machine and went back to before he was president and started destroying the economy? Dumbass.
But you can't only run on that. Nothing would get done.

Did FDR run on a platform that constantly said, "It was Hoover's fault. It was Hoover's fault. It was Hoover's fault"?
No, he didn't.
(Given, it wasn't exactly Hoover's fault. The Depression was beyond his control in most ways, and influenced by Wilson's policies, in others).

Tired Old Man
Oct 6th, 2010, 6:12 PM
Hey I looked at both pictures Jena and I have to agree Beck had more people .



But you can't only run on that. Nothing would get done.

Did FDR run on a platform that constantly said, "It was Hoover's fault. It was Hoover's fault. It was Hoover's fault"?
No, he didn't.
(Given, it wasn't exactly Hoover's fault. The Depression was beyond his control in most ways, and influenced by Wilson's policies, in others).

The blame game only goes so far.

pico
Oct 6th, 2010, 7:38 PM
I looked at both pictures, and the democrat rally looked like poor attendance compared to the Beck rally.

JenaS62
Oct 6th, 2010, 7:46 PM
Hey I looked at both pictures Jena and I have to agree Beck had more people .



Yes to any normal person, it would appear that Beck had more people but the liberal media, like GG, can't grasp that. The mall was full for Beck's rally and the media estimated the crowd to be 87K, but the mall for the unite America rally was not full and the media and GG estimate the crowd to be 175K. It would be funny if it weren't so sad.

Beatnik Bob
Oct 6th, 2010, 8:46 PM
I'm impartial to this whole thing, but I have to agree with Jena in that there is some media bias going on here..

Reef Badlaw
Oct 7th, 2010, 12:18 AM
I'm impartial to this whole thing, but I have to agree with Jena in that there is some media bias going on here..

There's a whole lot more than 'some'.

Newsroom-cults... They've in-bed with Obama all honeymoon, 'n now they've got to begin serving-the-marriage's spousal 'duties'...