theresa heinz kerry - terrorist supporter?

[stewey]

do a google search on "theresa heinz kerry" "tides foundation"

aparently she pays millions of dollars to an organization that supports terrorist groups and such.

right wing site that came up for my search: http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/000960.php

trying to verify it with a credible source. if true, it is pretty sick.

[Defiant Noquisi]

Thats interesting. I would wonder that if true, would she have known? Ive done the same myself and upon finding out, havent donated again.

[stewey]

Tonight at work I am going to look into it, since I basically got nothing better to do while working :D

[Conservative Front]

If it's credible, then I must say I really would not wont her Husband having power. Plus it would really support my "Are you a Kerrorist" message.

[Defiant Noquisi]

If it's credible, then I must say I really would not wont her Husband having power. Plus it would really support my "Are you a Kerrorist" message. You know CF, it would be people like you that I dont want in office. You dont have any facts about this at all, just conjecture. Youve already got "guilty" ready to be painted all across Mr. Kerry when you arent even sure that the Mrs. even invested in this type of thing let alone being aware of it. IF information came out that she DID invest in it and was aware of where her money was going, then PAINT HER GUILTY and then go after Kerry if he was aware of it too. The rabid dog picture I have in mind is just too much.

Kerrorist, another great example of conservative name calling gone awry. I may be "old" but I can remember the days when being a conservative was actually something to be proud of. The more studious members of my family were aghast that "one of us" would break rank. Thats how blind conservatism has become over the years. Now the high and mighty but still somewhat blind conservatives of my family can damn near "see the light" and actually have congratulated this family black sheep for not being a sheep after all, I refuse. You do notice that the name calling on both sides is blurring the real facts about each candidate dont you? Are are you going to claim ignorance?

Youre the kind of guy that would build a brand new gallows that would look for a "guilty" party so you could use it. :guill:

[prezhorusin04]

Great post Stewy..I look forward to any more info you can find on this matter.

http://209.17.95.115/images2/heinz.jpg
All HAil the Satanic Ketchup Queen..Paint it bloody Red!!

http://www.voy.com/75426/24773.html
I was able to confirm most of this. Frontpagemag.com has this posted as public information. The most disturbing connection is with CAIR and Mrs. Kerry. CAIR is linked with Hamas and some 11 or so members and or supporters are no charged and or in jail. You can do a google search and find basically the same disturbing information. While not being a huge Bush fan I am a bit taken back that no one has brought this up about Mrs. Kerry sooner.
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=kerry%2Bcair

Following is a brief background on Mrs. John Kerry . She hates being called that, by the way: Maria Teresa Thiersten Simoes-Ferreira Heinz Kerry. Married Senator Kerry in 995. She only took his name eighteen months ago and she is an "interesting" paradox of conflicts.

If you thought John Kerry was scary, he doesn't hold a candle to his wife! Maria Teresa Thiersten Simoes-Ferreira Heinz Kerry was born in Mozambique, the daughter of a Portuguese physician, was educated in Switzerland and South Africa. Fluent in five languages, she was working as a United Nations

interpreter in Geneva in the mid-60's when she met a "handsome" young American, H. John Heinz, III, who worked at a bank in Geneva. He told her his family was "in the food business."

They were married in 1966 and returned to Pittsburgh where his family ran the giant H. J. Heinz food company. He was elected to the US House of Representatives in 1971, and in 1976 he was elected to the first of three terms in the United States Senate. A Republican, he wrote a burning diatribe against some of the causes backed by young House member John Kerry.)

Several years later, in 1991, he was killed when his plane collided with a Sun Oil Company helicopter over a Philadelphia suburb. The senator, his pilot and copilot, and both of Sun's helicopter pilots were killed. He was survived by his wife, Teresa, and their three young sons. Four years later, having inherited Heinz's $500 million fortune, she married Senator John Forbes Kerry, the liberal then-junior senator from Massachusetts. She became a registered Democrat and the process of her radicalization was set in motion.

Heinz Kerry is not shy about telling people that she required Kerry to sign a prenuptial agreement before they were married. John Kerry may not have check writing privileges on the Heinz catsup and pickle fortune, but he is certainly a willing and uncomplaining beneficiary of it.

A lot of hard-earned money, made through many years of hawking catsup, mustard, and pickles has fallen into the hands of two people who despise successful entrepreneurship and who believe in the confiscatory redistribution of wealth.

So how does Mrs. Heinz Kerry spend John Heinz's money?

Just one example: According to the G2 Bulletin, an online intelligence newsletter of WorldNetDaily, in the years between 1995-2001 she gave more than $4 million to an organization called the Tides Foundation. And what does the Tides Foundation do with John Heinz's money? They support numerous antiwar groups, including Ramsey Clark's International Action Center. Clark has offered to defend Saddam Hussein when he's tried. They support the Democratic Justice Fund, a joint venture of the Tides Foundation and billionaire hate-monger George Soros. The Democratic Justice Fund seeks to ease restrictions on Muslim immigration from "terrorist" states. They support the Council for American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), whose leaders are known to have close ties to the terrorist group, Hamas. They support the National Lawyers Guild, organized as a communist front during the Cold War era. One of their attorneys, Lynne Stewart, has been arrested for helping a client, Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, communicate with terror cells in Egypt. He is the convicted mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

CAIR’s affinity for terrorist causes is well documented in the press. At a 1994 meeting at Barry University, Nihad Awad stated succinctly, “I am a supporter of the Hamas movement.” Communications Director Ibrahim Hooper has defended Saudi Arabia’s financial aid to families of Palestinian suicide bombers. In recent months, three CAIR officials were indicted on terrorism-related charges.

Sen. Richard Durbin: [CAIR is] unusual in its extreme rhetoric and its associations with groups that are suspect,

Sen. Charles Schumer: we know [CAIR] has ties to terrorism.

The Islamist Front

Immediately after 9/11, Tides formed a “9/11 Fund” to advocate a “peaceful national response” to the opening salvos of war. Part of the half-million dollars in grants the 9/11 Fund dispersed went to the New York Gay and Lesbian Anti-Violence Project to protect the rights of homosexual Arabs. The Foundation replaced the 9/11 Fund with the “Democratic Justice Fund,” which was established with the aid of George Soros’ Open Society Institute. (Currency speculator and pro-drug advocate Soros is, like Teresa Heinz Kerry, a major contributor to Tides, having donated more than $7 million.) The Democratic Justice Fund seeks to ease restrictions on Muslim immigration to the United States, particularly from countries designated by the State Department as “terrorist nations.”

Tides has also given grant money to the Council for American Islamic Relations. Ostensibly a “Muslim civil rights group,” CAIR is in fact one of the leading anti-anti-terrorism organizations within the Wahhabi Lobby, with links to Hamas. CAIR regularly opposes and demonizes American efforts to fight terrorism, claiming, for instance, that Homeland Security measures are responsible for an undocumented surge in “hate crimes.”

They support the "Barrio Warriors," a radical Hispanic group whose primary goal is to return all of Arizona, California, New Mexico, and Texas to Mexico. These are but a few of the radical groups that benefit, through the anonymity provided by the Tides Foundation, from the generosity of our would-be first lady, the wealthy widow of Republican senator John Heinz, and now the wife of the Democratic senator who aspires to be the 44th President of the United States.

Aiding and supporting our enemies is not good for America, regardless of your political views. If voters will open their eyes, educate themselves and see the real Teresa Heinz Kerry, they will not appreciate her position as ultra rich fairy godmother of the radical left. They will not want to imagine her laying her head on a pillow each night inches away from the President of the United States. Hopefully they love this country enough to decide that the only way these two will ever be allowed into the White House is with an engraved invitation in hand.

Instead of deleting this, pass it on. Let everyone know these people are unfit to represent this great nation. The uninformed will never hear the truth from the press, who wants Kerry elected!

Those who buy the Kerry facade, beware what you vote for - - - you may regret that you got it!

CAIR is a direct outgrowth of the Islamic Association of Palestine (IAP). According to Oliver Revell, the FBI's former associate director of Counter-Intelligence Operations, the IAP is an organization that has directly supported [the Palestinian terror group] Hamas' military goals.

CAIR Sponsors Terrorist Suspect / Link to Al Qaeda Islamist Terror Group and Mrs. Kerry supports CAIR.

While detail checking the federal indictment of eleven Islamist terrorism suspects, ACAIR researchers have found a link between *Mr. Randall Royer and Al Qaeda. On page 15 of the indictment, it is charged that “On or about April 4, 2001, at the residence of IBRAHAM AHMED AL-HAMDI in Alexandria, Virginia, a visitor representing the Benevolence International Foundation (BIF) discussed a Mujahideen camp in Bosnia with Nabil T. Garbieh and other conspirators.” The indictment continues: “On or about April 4, 2001, at the residence of IBRAHAM AHMED AL-HAMDI in Alexandria, Virginia, Nabil T. Garbieh and other conspirators watched videos depicting Mujahideen engaged in Jihad.” In plain language, the government is alleging that the BIF, an Islamist terrorist supporting organization, held an organized meeting with the conspirators for the purpose of watching videos of Islamist terrorists in action.

On April 30, 2002, the FBI arrested Mr. Enaam Arnaout of the BIF and charged him with lying about the ties between himself, BIF, and international terrorism. In Bosnia, troops recovered correspondence between Mr. Arnaout and Mr. Bin Laden indicating a relationship between the two that goes back to the 1980’s. This would indicate a connection between the BIF and Al Qaeda, considering that both Mr. Arnaout and Mr. Bin Laden are the heads of their respective Islamist terror groups. Note: Mr. Arnaout has since pleaded guilty to defrauding donors to BIF and using the funds to purchase uniforms and boots for Islamist terrorists in Chechnya as well as purchasing uniforms for Islamist Bosnian troops. The sentencing of Mr. Arnaout had been scheduled for Monday, 7 July, but questions regarding his ties to terrorism must be settled first.

ACAIR firmly believes that the conspirators’ alleged meeting with a BIF representative; the proven ties between BIF and Al Qaeda, Mr. Randall "Ismail" Royers' connection to the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), all point to the inescapable conclusion that CAIR, at least, colludes and operates with terrorists- and at most, actively supports Islamist terrorism. ACAIR awaits the conclusion of the conspirators trial, and if the connection is proven, we will look forward to the closing of the CAIR organization in the United States.

[Defiant Noquisi]

All HAil the Satanic Ketchup Queen..Paint it bloody Red!! Im glad that in America that I can read juvenile waste like this because there are laws that protect it.

In going through the links one thing became rather clear. Since more than just a few are conservative, maybe even right wing, they will paint as ugly a picture as possible no matter what, so the information may be slightly embellished.

None of those publications bring up "why" there are groups like Hamas in the first place. If someone researched THAT history Im sure it would be an interesting read for them. I dont support violence in and of itself in any way but I will support those peoples rights to self governing without the Israeli's fingers in it.

That same "satanic ketchup queen" as you say also provides and subsidizes millions of jobs in the US and elsewhere. I took and got loaded quite a few containers of ketchup and such bound for troops and other points in the Middle East.

I dont like the idea of her funding violence, its wrong. I sure dont fault her thinking because of it and since the US sponsors its own terrorism I guess that just evens it all up doesnt it. If I had to deal with people who think like CF on a regular basis I might go that way too. Funding violence is still wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. I suppose that if the US government itself wouldnt provide such a good example of doing it, she might not either but who knows. :dead:

Shes a smart thinking woman to have gotten Kerry to sign that pre-nup. :thumbs:

[Bigsky770]

. . .You're about to vote for the guy that she wouldn't have felt safe with sans a pre-nup?
. . .In a scarey sorta way, that's actually quite funny. . . :grin

Nevermind. . .Joe (Bigsky770) :vbroll:

[prezhorusin04]

Uh, ok Defiant Star..Don't read my juvenile waste, i don't care..I'm not the satanic bitch whos only notable good deed is sending ketchup to our troops when she's got 500 million dollars in assets..

I'm not right or left wing, conservative or liberal, it's all fake little labels to set us against each other when the real problem is both democrats and republicans who are WORKING together to fufill a HUGE agenda that is hidden from the majority of the populace.

Kerry will be no better, it's just a filler figure head so they can further complete their sick and evil plans while giving Americans a false sense of choice run through controlled opposition.

The things that slip out about these people are only a tiny glimpse to the things they do in their private lives. Their public image is only a facade and don't be fooled into thinking that ANY president gives a shit about the public over the orders of their corporate international banking MASTERS.

No offense to you DN. :jap: I'm just in the mood for a rant, and i know that Kerry is a puppet, and your RIGHT when you say that the U.S. backs its own terrorism..It furthers their agenda.
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[Emerald_Dragon]

I'm with prez. I share alot of his political views.

I'm still voting for Kerry, however. Knowing full well that I am choosing the lesser of 2 evils. To vote for the greater evil, would be a vote of approval for being manipulated. In either case, I know my vote choice, is a sham. We need a real leader, not puppets with more hidden agenda. What choice do we have? None, the valid ones were taken out and replaced with puppets.

[Defiant Noquisi]

. . .You're about to vote for the guy that she wouldn't have felt safe with sans a pre-nup? Shed have made any guy sign one, him or not. One never knows how the heart will turn into a nasty black hole. Shes a smart business woman to be protecting her assets.

[Defiant Noquisi]

Uh, ok Defiant Star..Don't read my juvenile waste, i don't care..I'm not the satanic bitch whos only notable good deed is sending ketchup to our troops when she's got 500 million dollars in assets.. I was commenting on the name calling, not your entire post, which is why I singled it out. How do you know she worships satan? How do you know she's a bitch? Im not taking offense and non was meant by me either. You are more intelligent than what you posted.

BTW, I LOVE that campaign sign! :thumbs:

[Conservative Front]

My first sentence says "if credible". Not. "I can't believe this is true..."

My "kerrorist" thing is merely a joke. nothing more. nothing less. I'm not intending to be name calling I just thought it was funny. I don't like the accusastions and name calling in campaigns I think it's rather demeaning. so yeah I realize it.

I don't think I would seek out the guilty just to try out the new device..... :ohmy:

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[stewey]

I am still trying to find a credible source. Snopes.com claims the Heinz corporation denies Tides Foundation is related to terrorism, but that doesn't really mean much because what would you expect them to say?

[prezhorusin04]

i apologize for my use of the word 'Bitch'..I did not mean it in a sexually demeaning or derogatory term..

i just meant it in the sense that she, like Kerry, are on leashes and willing to take the submissive role to other "shadow" forces..In order for their names to "go down in history"..didn't mean to name call, but sometimes i just get pissed ya know..?

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Get down on your knees and pray, we don't get fooled again."
http://dr-atomic.hypermart.net/images/resist/rallysignb_k5.jpg

[substand]

Mrs Heinz-Kerry does a lot of good works for the community, which I'm sure any cons or mad lib can find... even though she's had a previous husband, MR ****ING HEINZ, WHOM SHE GOT HER MONEY FROM, AS IN, SHE IS NOT A BLOOD PART OF THE HEINZ FAMILY (see http://www.johnkerry.com/about_teresa/), that does not make her evil. Alot of her ex-husband's money (yes, again, MR HEINZ) is not managed by her. She has (as any good almost-billionaire would) someone manage it for her. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that some of it was invested in some companies who might some way be tied to terrorists, just like the Bush Osama connection. Keep in mind she got her money from Mr Heinz, who was also a congressman, who has died, and then she got his money, and then she married Kerry. None of this is indicting in any way, much less indicting about terrorism. And yes, here I am defending a mad lib democrat.


You know CF, it would be people like you that I dont want in office. You dont have any facts about this at all, just conjecture. Youve already got "guilty" ready to be painted all across Mr. Kerry when you arent even sure that the Mrs. even invested in this type of thing let alone being aware of it.

CF actually said one of the most unpartisan things he's ever said here. I don't mind partisanship at all, but to say "If it's credible, then I must say I really would not wont her Husband having power. Plus it would really support my "Are you a Kerrorist" message." That is just NICE of him to say... "IF" its credible, rather han "it is" credible... I think your attack was completely unfounded in this case (but I still love you of course) =)

[Defiant Noquisi]

i apologize for my use of the word 'Bitch'..I did not mean it in a sexually demeaning or derogatory term.. I didnt read into your post anything sexist, I just wanted to know how it could be that you knew she was what you called her. Such as the satanic part, how do you know?

[Defiant Noquisi]

My first sentence says "if credible". Not. "I can't believe this is true..." True, but the way you worded the post makes it appear you have the gallows ready "just in case". I dont see where her money goes as being that relative to the campaign and there is no proof that she would have been aware if it is true.


I don't like the accusastions and name calling in campaigns I think it's rather demeaning. so yeah I realize it. And do it anyway.

[Defiant Noquisi]

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that some of it was invested in some companies who might some way be tied to terrorists, just like the Bush Osama connection. Keep in mind she got her money from Mr Heinz, who was also a congressman, who has died, and then she got his money, and then she married Kerry. None of this is indicting in any way, much less indicting about terrorism. And yes, here I am defending a mad lib democrat. Thank you for that.


That is just NICE of him to say... "IF" its credible, rather han "it is" credible... I think your attack was completely unfounded in this case (but I still love you of course) =) True, it is nice of him to say it the way that he did. However, I feel that I am justified in saying what I had based on your above post regarding her money. Why would her money have anything to do with his campaign? That would be similar to me saying that Bush cant be president because he makes his money off of oil interests. Should I fault Bush's campaign because Laura is a teacher and a christian? It makes no sense.

[prezhorusin04]

DN, i call her a Satanist because i believe Kerry to really be a Satanist, since i believe Skull and Bones to be a Satanist organization that stems from the German Thule Society and other concepts that birthed the Nazi ideals of Hitler..

And since Kerry is a Satanist, it would seen likely that his wife would have married one because she herself is into these forces..Calling it "Satanism" probably oversimplifies it all though..

Don't worry, i'm sure far much more corruption on both Kerry and his wife will start coming out before elections..Personally, i see John Kerry as more of a "devil worshipper" then his wife, but her money is definatly funding his massive media campaign for the Presidency of this great land..He doesn't desearve our support, he and Bush are not only Skull and Bones brothers, but blood relation as well..

THIS JUST IN!: KERRY BLOWS GOATS!

Here we see the ad campaign banner of demoncratic Presidential hopeful (and Skull and Bones man) John Forbes Kerry. Notice the Inverted Satanic Goats Head Pentagram in the flag symbol?
http://www.nwowatcher.com/attachments/satanloveskerry1.jpg
http://www.johnkerry.com/images/header.gif
http://www.luckymojo.com/baphometpentagram.gif
http://www.luckymojo.com/levibaphomet.gif

The same emblem of the Satanic goat headed god of the Knights Templars/Freemasons in Baphomet.
No doubt about it, Kerry is a dangerous man..Possibly more so then Bush since Kerry can actually talk..(Plus he's got that chin that wants to lead people)

[prezhorusin04]

i just don't trust any of these people..

http://195.234.240.231/shared/contentbinaries/publish/380135.jpg
He soon conceived the immortal words '57 varieties,' whereupon he got off the train and set about plastering America with the now-famous pickle-plus-number logo.

The one problem with this scheme was that at the time the company was manufacturing more than 60 varieties. However, Heinz stuck with 57, for what his biographer describes as 'occult reasons.'

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_195 -
http://www.thisishull.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=136242&command=displayContent&sourceNode=136759&contentPK=9387807

"The people of Pennsylvania have lost a great leader and the nation has lost a great senator," said President George Bush of the death of Heinz. He described Heinz as "a close friend of our family."
John Heinz was also a card carrying member of BOHEMIAN GROVE and SKULL AND BONES.

[bbbv3.5]

lol :yeah: I could see satan voting for kerry. His wrath will forth if he is elected!

[Defiant Noquisi]

Ok prez, now I got ya! Interesting since by your description, that would mean that Bush would likely be a satanist too. :devsmoke:

[bbbv3.5]

That makes no sense because bush is a very religious man. If ytou dont agree with him that does not mean is a devil worshiper.

[stewey]

Bush would be more of a religious zealot than Satan worshipper.

[JinJaNinJa]

What a crackin site guys full of blood boiling stuff, its a pity you cant post a pic here, cause what you guys are saying about Bush being satanic..... Well i found this on the web, check the pic of bush at the bottom right hand side of the page to see what i mean.

The world is F#@ked, im going home


http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/therevelation2.shtml

[stewey]

That Bush picture is fake. I just scanned it over in adobe and hex editor, and the resolution is different over Bush's head. AKA cut and paste job. Plus when you zoom in, you can see where it is cut from another picture when compared to the other guys's heads.

I edited the pic a bit, putting a blue line over the "cut mark" on his head in a small part. The resolution is less over the other guys's heads, as I noted in red with a selection tool after 1 click. I did Bush's in green.

Also, notice the bad cropping job behind bush's left ear.

EDIT: waiting on mods to approve pic

[A Lone Voice]

Hey Defiant Noquisi:

I'm not sure how old you are, but I think we are close to the same age. I base this on your statement that being a conservative was something to be proud of.

What's happened in the last 20 years or so is conservatives have finally began to speak out. It used to be only the "cool" liberal people could make fun of the stuffy conservative stiffs. Now, it is the conservatives that are making fun of the stuffy, no-fun, politically correct liberals!

By being "proud", did you mean "stay above the fray", perhaps? But, the times they are a changing....

[Bigsky770]

. . .You can see where the pixels tend to loose their resolution. And as well, the individuals' body appears to be somewhat more 'massive' then George's.
I must ask the question, though, WHO was that originally a photo of?

Joe (Bigsky770) :vbroll:

[prezhorusin04]

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/bushwitch.jpg
Burning Bush

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-6/752601/tomridge.Jpg
Tom Ridge

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-6/752601/BillClinton.JPG
Slick Willy

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-6/752601/DanQuayle.JPG
Dan Potatoe Quayle

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-6/752601/PrinceWilliam.JPG
Princy Boy William

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/arafatbeast_small.jpg
Yasser Arafat

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/berlusconi_small.jpg
Italian Prime Minister Burlusconi

http://www.antichristconspiracy.com/AmyGrantCornuto1.jpg
Gospel singer Amy Grant

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-6/752601/JohnLuke.JPG
John Helder, domestic terrorist responsible for 2002 pipe bomb/mailbox spree


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-6/752601/LizTaylor.JPG
Lizard Taylor

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%
Benny Hinn

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/amysalu2.jpg
Anton Lavey

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-6/752601/Spiderman.JPG
Sob. sob, Spidey man too!


http://www.capalert.com/images/hand.gif


HORNED HAND or THE MANO CORNUTO: This gesture is the satanic salute, a sign of recognition between and allegiance of members of satanism or other unholy groups. It is also called the Il Cornuto. In other "circles," whether displayed as a hand gesture or worn as an amulet, it is supposed to ward off evil (the evil eye) as are the hamsa hand (three finger - two thumbed hand), the eye-in-hand (eye in the palm), and the mano fico ('mano' meaning hand and 'fico' meaning woman's genitals).
http://www.luckymojo.com/manocornuto.html

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/amysalu3.jpg
A Satanic Ritual

[prezhorusin04]

:yeah: These guys sure are horny!!!@$%*!

[JinJaNinJa]

well spotted Stewey, i have only recently started checking out American politics and i guess i am a little too eager to take a swipe at bush. Still regarding Ms Hienz/Kerry is it really such a bad thing that she would be willing to support Hamas, considering other "Terrorist organisations" such as the IRA, ANC and Hezbolla are now strong political parties that have played an important role in removing the tyranny of occupying forces/governments on their nations?

PS: Hi im a bit of a virgin to all of this so be gentle :blush:

[stewey]

Yeah, I am bored at work, so I got nothing but time on my hands :D

[prezhorusin04]

Oh yeah, Maria and Arnold..
http://www.infowars.com/headline_photos/April/shwartz_kennedy.jpg

[stewey]

some of those look like a simple "finger wave" that some people use instead of the "hand motion" wave. This is a seinfeldish subject...

[Bushnell]

Well if this is true, what about all the rock bands, and all the people watching them, even bevas & butthead. Wave there hands the same way as the pictures you posted, I think it is more of a wave, then a sign of something! :confused: I do not think this is a satanic salute. So rock on!

[Bigsky770]

. . .This type of "wave" has become so universal to have lost all significance,
hell, I've used it myself! :yeah: especially used as a symbol from one to another that you not only agree with them, but that you wish them well also. . . It's like Rock On, Dude! Yah know?

. . .(or) are we just all part of the "NWO" and don't know it yet? :yikes:

Needs to be said to be put into proper context, really. . . .

Joe (Bigsky770) :vbroll:

[Emerald_Dragon]

i think we are [in the NWO]. its kind of hard to tell, when you're it.

IMO...a New World Order was ushered in, after 911. Our order. Our justice. Our way of life. The world is going to be ours, try and stop us. We've got the Patriot act to silence dissidents and truth diggers, we've got Homeland Security to keep our borders secure, we've got our military funded and operational, we've got a Draft bill ready to replenish manpower shortages, we're keeping our soldiers from going home early, we're redeploying our troops worldwide to rotate them, we've got an incumbent president too stupid to question what he's told to do, and a challenger willing to continue on with the fight as needed. Is Kerry any different from Bush? Only a different face, with an equally checkered past. We've got the media telling us to pick a side and fuelling our thoughts with reasons to dislike the nemesis of our choice.

It's going to get messy over here. Not only do I feel we are new Germany, I believe these guys might just succeed this time. After all, Operation Paperclip acquired us many German assets. Better us, than the Russians.

[mamalama]

[Teresa Heinz Kerry


Netlore Archive: Email flier falsely alleges that Teresa Heinz Kerry, heiress to the Heinz catsup fortune and wife of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry, contributes money to radical left-wing political causes

Comments: (UPDATED) With the general election only a few months away, 'tis the season for partisan attacks on presidential candidates — and their wives too, evidently.
The first half of the above article on Teresa Heinz Kerry, wife of Democratic contender John Kerry and heiress to the Heinz family fortune, accurately recounts some of the salient facts of her biography.
The second half, alleging that Mrs. Kerry has used her vast wealth to support extremist causes — including groups that foster terrorism — through donations to an organization called the Tides Foundation, is false.
While it is a fact that the Heinz Endowments, of which Teresa Heinz Kerry is the chairman, has granted upwards of $8 million through the Tides Center and Tides Foundation since 1994 to fund high school career programs, environmental protection projects and the like in Pennsylvania (see complete list of grants), those funds were not shared by any other causes or organizations connected with Tides, according to administrators.
Heinz Endowments President Maxwell King explains it thus:
First, by legally binding contract, every penny of Heinz’s support to Tides has been explicitly directed to specific projects in Pennsylvania. It cannot legally be redirected and is the exact opposite of fungible.
Second, the Tides Center is a provider of management and administrative services, and we have used it only for those services, not to advance Tides’ grantmaking agenda. Foundations from all across the country-many, like Heinz, with strong centrist agendas-use these services to incubate an array of nonprofit programs. So does the federal government. It is no more accurate to suggest that Heinz supports every one of these programs than it is to suggest that someone who contributes to a specific group through the United Way supports the agenda of every other United Way beneficiary.
Third, the projects we have supported through Tides speak for themselves. They include programs to test the career readiness of area high school students, protect Pittsburgh’s environment and retain young people in our region-hardly an extremist agenda.
Fourth and finally, information about every one of our Tides-related grants is and always has been readily available in our public filings, annual reports and here on our web site. Far from being secretive, we have been consistently open in detailing the nature of our grants to Tides and every other organization we fund.
From: www.about.com

[mamalama]

It's an urban legend, like so many of the Bush barbs. Get the information straight before throwing darts, HUH?

[prezhorusin04]

Retort: :crashpc:

http://www.torontofreepress.com/2004/main050304.htm
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1174143/posts

[mamalama]

Check the About.com website on urban legends. This is the same as alligators in the sewers or Bush substituting the word "feces" for fetus. Get a grip:

Teresa Heinz Kerry


Netlore Archive: Email flier falsely alleges that Teresa Heinz Kerry, heiress to the Heinz catsup fortune and wife of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry, contributes money to radical left-wing political causes

Comments: (UPDATED) With the general election only a few months away, 'tis the season for partisan attacks on presidential candidates — and their wives too, evidently.
The first half of the above article on Teresa Heinz Kerry, wife of Democratic contender John Kerry and heiress to the Heinz family fortune, accurately recounts some of the salient facts of her biography.
The second half, alleging that Mrs. Kerry has used her vast wealth to support extremist causes — including groups that foster terrorism — through donations to an organization called the Tides Foundation, is false.
While it is a fact that the Heinz Endowments, of which Teresa Heinz Kerry is the chairman, has granted upwards of $8 million through the Tides Center and Tides Foundation since 1994 to fund high school career programs, environmental protection projects and the like in Pennsylvania (see complete list of grants), those funds were not shared by any other causes or organizations connected with Tides, according to administrators.
Heinz Endowments President Maxwell King explains it thus:
First, by legally binding contract, every penny of Heinz’s support to Tides has been explicitly directed to specific projects in Pennsylvania. It cannot legally be redirected and is the exact opposite of fungible.
Second, the Tides Center is a provider of management and administrative services, and we have used it only for those services, not to advance Tides’ grantmaking agenda. Foundations from all across the country-many, like Heinz, with strong centrist agendas-use these services to incubate an array of nonprofit programs. So does the federal government. It is no more accurate to suggest that Heinz supports every one of these programs than it is to suggest that someone who contributes to a specific group through the United Way supports the agenda of every other United Way beneficiary.
Third, the projects we have supported through Tides speak for themselves. They include programs to test the career readiness of area high school students, protect Pittsburgh’s environment and retain young people in our region-hardly an extremist agenda.
Fourth and finally, information about every one of our Tides-related grants is and always has been readily available in our public filings, annual reports and here on our web site. Far from being secretive, we have been consistently open in detailing the nature of our grants to Tides and every other organization we fund.
The Heinz Endowments Grants to Tides Center / Tides Foundation Howard Heinz Endowment (HHE) Vira I. Heinz Endowment

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Children, Youth & Families Program that will develop a set of youth standards designed by and for youth-serving organizations. If successful, this grant will help to raise the overall quality of services available to youth and create a common set of expectations for funders. Youth Standards Project 5/13/2002 $60,000 VIHE Children, Youth & Families Program This grant will support the second phase of the Youth Standards Project, which will involve field testing this highly sophisticated framework in area schools and evaluating the types of technical assistance capacity necessary for implementation in the youth-serving arena. During the next year, the field-testing will include assessments and evaluations in eight programs. Youth Standards Project 10/22/2003 $150,000 HHE Children, Youth & Families This third round of support from the Endowments will establish The Community Quality Institute for Youth-Serving Organizations. Its purpose is to replicate the standards process and quality assurance practices to 20 organizations per year. YouthPlaces 4/26/2001 $200,000 VIHEChildren, Youth & Families Program This grant supports YouthPlaces, a nonschool hour initiative for older “at-risk” youth that is offered across Allegheny County in fifteen sites. Now in its fourth year of operation, the program is completing an evaluation by the Office of Child Development at the University of Pittsburgh and Public Private Ventures, a nationally recognized organization that specializes in youth-oriented research, evaluation and policy. Youth Places is showing positive results as a community-based approach to youth development. The program has been able to attract a large number of very difficult youth who typically avoid such programs. The YouthPlaces initiative has faced a number of administrative challenges over the course of the past three years, but is now undergoing an 18-month strategic planning process to develop a new organizational structure. This plan involves moving its administrative oversight from the Pittsburgh Council of Public Education to the Tides Center. TOTAL $8,116,000 :D

[prezhorusin04]

Why did you post the same thing twice..?And like i'm sure that the people at the Tides foundation are goihg to accuse Kerry of terrorism..That's like Bush appointing the 911 commission.

BTW, there are alligators in some sewers.

[prezhorusin04]

And THIS ISNT urban legend.


29 Sep 2000 George W Bush: "I know the human being and the fish can coexist peacefully."

GW Bush:
"It Would Be Easier If I Was Dictator"

"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
See CNN transcript from 12/18/2000:

You don't get everything you want. A dictatorship would be a lot easier." Describing what it's like to be governor of Texas.(Governing Magazine 7/98)
-- From Paul Begala's "Is Our Children Learning?"

http://www.buzzflash.com

[Defiant Noquisi]

Bush would be more of a religious zealot than Satan worshipper. I was going by the Skull and Bones reference but I agree with what you say.

[Defiant Noquisi]

That Bush picture is fake. I just scanned it over in adobe and hex editor, and the resolution is different over Bush's head. AKA cut and paste job. Plus when you zoom in, you can see where it is cut from another picture when compared to the other guys's heads. Damn stewey, thats great! Im coming over for lessons!

Did you guys even notice this quote that was above Bush's head on that website? This is something that prez could use since it would tie in with why conspiracies can be gotten away with.....

"How fortunate for leaders, that the masses do not think." - Hitler SPOOKY

[Defiant Noquisi]

Hey Defiant Noquisi:

I'm not sure how old you are, but I think we are close to the same age. I base this on your statement that being a conservative was something to be proud of. Ill be 40 this year if that helps. And yes, I can remember that being a conservative was being an upstanding and decent human being. Now its seems its a joke and with current crop of some of the examples posed by young people, its become some kind of strange cult brainwashing people that being a white conservative Republican is the only way to go.

If conservatives want any respect, they shouldnt reduce themselves to committing the same acts of idiocy they have accused their liberal opposites of all these years. Thats like watching two schoolkids arguing and trying to prove the other is wrong and acting worse in the process.

Welcome to the boards. :bye:

[stewey]

I have seen the press release from the Heinz corporation about the "urban legend", and frankly, that is what I would expect them to say. Still trying to find a good source of truth or fiction to it.

Bush has said many, many stupid things. No argument from me about that. I think he ties religion into his views way too much, personally. The dictatorship quotes are just hilarious though :rolling: