Another conspriacy becomes fact.

[Justice]

Was reading on another forum about UK kids having their finger prints taken whilst at school without the parent knowlage.

Europe tell the UK to cut it out (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8202076/Europe-tells-Britain-to-justify-itself-over-fingerprinting-children-in-schools.html)

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01785/finger_1785510c.jpg

Well i asked my son about this and turns out I was too late to warn him because it had already been done by the police who have only ever visited the kids once at school and thats when the deed was done to the whole class.

Now i'm all for this if you have nothing to hide theory so lets see our politicians bank accounts opened up to the public and then i might play along with this 'Nothing to Hide' theory thats being preached to the sheeple.



My children have moved beyond school age but one of my co-workers was horrified to find out her primary school children had both been finger printed (about three years ago)- WITHOUT HER PERMISSION. She was outraged and could see the future implications in an instant.

I had actually forgotten about this until I saw this thread. Well done for posting this.

Continue with a policy like that and it wouldn’t take too long to have the entire population on record. We are being treated as criminals, as guilty parties on masse.

Any respect the school had from me just flew out the window and if its good for the kids then lets have all these ultra leftwing teachers finger prints on record incase they transgress with the kids in the school and lets be honest its happening more and more.

frigging discusted

[Justice]

Well i guess we don't have many people reading this site from the UK or they have much more to deal with than just allowing out kids to be finger printed like criminals without asking for permission from parents.

[JenaS62]

I never really understood what having a kid's fingerprints will do to keep them safe. I can only see this coming in handy when identifying a body and there are many other ways to accomplish this.

[Blu-ray]

I never really understood what having a kid's fingerprints will do to keep them safe. I can only see this coming in handy when identifying a body and there are many other ways to accomplish this.

My parents had my sister and I fingerprinted back in 81 or 82 (my mom was still alive so it had to be before October of 82). It happened shortly after the Adam Walsh abduction.

I don't view it as keeping a kid safe. I think it's more for:

1. If the child is abducted and killed they can easily identify the body using fingerprints.
2. If a child is found being abused (like the ones who are abducted and sold into child sex slavery) and somewhat matches a possible description of a missing child, it is easier to determine who the child is with the fingerprints.




Well... unless the abductors cut off the fingertips and ate them.

[JenaS62]

I get the whole idenfication thing but really, there are other ways. This whole fingerprint thing creeps me out because it will give the PTB a huge data base of fingerprints which could be or not be a good thing.

[Fut004]

Just for the argument's sake, what's the worst possible thing that could happen from having "your" child's fingerprints taken at school?

Also:


In many schools, when using the canteen or library, children, as young as four, place their thumbs on a scanner and lunch money is deducted from their account or they are registered as borrowing a book.

Research carried out by Dr Emmeline Taylor, at Salford University, found earlier this year that 3,500 schools in the UK – one in seven – are using fingerprint technology.


If they're using biometrics for routine daily activities it sort of makes sense that they need their fingerprints.

[G66]

Just for the argument's sake, what's the worst possible thing that could happen from having "your" child's fingerprints taken at school?

His/her fingerprints will end up in a national database of fingerprints making it even harder to remain anonymous should he/she decide to embark upon a life of crime...:2thumbs:

My only issue with this would be not having been informed in advance and given the option to not participate.

May sound silly but having the right to opt out (you might understand if you are married) even an implied one goes a long way to making people "feel" like they are still free from excessive intrusion.

I probably would have done it (Since my daughter would find it cool I bet!) but as the parent should know about the plan for sure and have some options as well.



If they're using biometrics for routine daily activities it sort of makes sense that they need their fingerprints.


I know a little of biometrics as the military was using biometrics for a lot of things toward the tail end of my career.

However, I was way past the "everyday user" stage and more in the "Please Sergeant explain how this works again so I can get into the safe...I have forgotten again?"

I did though as the Commander see the price tags on the property books. Was some expensive shit for sure.

We used it to protect codeword and TS material and to keep accurate access logs to such programs.

I can't see why the school would be better served with this than say a chip in the school ID card like they have at my daughter’s school. It does what the article explains.

I'm not going to be judgmental since maybe they did a study or something and kids loose so many cards it’s cheaper to use their fingers since they rarely loose them.

On a side note I live in Amish country and it amazes my wife and I how digit challenged they seem to be...everyone is missing fingers. Is it some form of religious thing? More likely that all the boys 12+ year old boys work in the local saw mill.

We had our kid's DNA, fingerprints, blood type, etc. registered long ago being the pragmatic sort. I have been printed for military and security (clearance/ gun registration/concealed carry permits/gun dealers license and explosives user license) reasons for years.

I don't think that it’s a big issue unless you want to engage in some thievery or crime of some kind.

[Goldmoon]

Biometrics is next.

Have you noticed that almost every one of your accounts and cards have been hacked in the past few months?

[Justice]

Well if it's all down to the saftey of the kids then let go the full hog and implant RFIDs in them all.

Sorry it's parents that protect kids and not the state the goes around pulling off 9/11 and has politicans openly calling for assinations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmxyBjpy05c&feature=player_embedded#at=894

Act like cattle, get treated like cattle and no having to show you ass every thime you fly is not patrotic but conditioning and its time we fought back.

[Justice]

Biometrics is next.

Have you noticed that almost every one of your accounts and cards have been hacked in the past few months?

You know a lot of these credit cards now have hidden RFIDs in them and i'm not just talking about the contactless cards.

The induction loop in these cards is as big as the card and can get it's power from being near a mobile phone or anything that generates a magnetic field and this then sends out a signal that can be read miles away.

For security i rely on blocks of metal held outside the banking system and given all the internal fraud from these banks and the sinister activities is it any wonder.

Does anyone know of a single main stream bank that is not being sued just now ?

[ecosikz]

after reading all the posts.. I still think these kids and parents should have a say into what happens with their kids.. hiding shit from parents is not a good idea.. do these people know that they can sue the school for not getting the parents permission. ntm I've never been a big fan of technology.. after all criminals(the advanced 1's) are always 1 step ahead of the system.. they use technology aswell.. when you give people extra previlidges.. you give it to criminals too. the best way to solve this solution is to do the weighing if you get more good out of something than bad.. then you have your answer.