AnimeFreak
Jul 25th, 2004, 9:52 PM
Any democrats in this forum .
Tell me reasons why I should not vote for Bush?
Please....
Tell me reasons why I should not vote for Bush?
Please....
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Emerald_Dragon
Jul 25th, 2004, 11:06 PM
Here's a simple answer.
Vote for Bush if you approve of the lies being told to pursue American Imperialism under the guise of a war on terror.
Vote for Kerry if you don't approve of the lies, but still support American Imperialism under the guise of a war on terror.
That's my take on what's going on. :guill:
Vote for Bush if you approve of the lies being told to pursue American Imperialism under the guise of a war on terror.
Vote for Kerry if you don't approve of the lies, but still support American Imperialism under the guise of a war on terror.
That's my take on what's going on. :guill:
Conservative Front
Jul 25th, 2004, 11:33 PM
Reasons to vote for Bush:
1) National Security
2) Economy
3) Social Policys
4) Homeland Security
5) Forgien Policy
Vote for Bush you you want too see America remain free.
Vote for Kerry is you want to see Terrorist take command.
(theres plenty more those are just the 5 Biggest)
1) National Security
2) Economy
3) Social Policys
4) Homeland Security
5) Forgien Policy
Vote for Bush you you want too see America remain free.
Vote for Kerry is you want to see Terrorist take command.
(theres plenty more those are just the 5 Biggest)
humanhybrid
Jul 26th, 2004, 1:15 AM
Reasons not to vote for Bush:
1) National Security
2) Economy
3) Social Policys
4) Homeland Security
5) Forgien Policy
Vote for Bush you want too see America lose freedoms.
:drool:
1) National Security
2) Economy
3) Social Policys
4) Homeland Security
5) Forgien Policy
Vote for Bush you want too see America lose freedoms.
:drool:
stewey
Jul 26th, 2004, 1:21 AM
Here's a simple answer.
Vote for Bush if you approve of the lies being told to pursue American Imperialism under the guise of a war on terror.
Vote for Kerry if you don't approve of the lies, but still support American Imperialism under the guise of a war on terror.
That's my take on what's going on. :guill:
I wouldn't say Bush lied about Iraq; his intelligence was faulty. If you think Bush lied, then you have to think all of congress (including Kerry) lied, as they all voted for the war.
Bush is a dumbass and a tool. Kerry is a dumbass and a tool. However, I think Bush is less of a tool than Kerry by far, so I will vote for Bush probably.
Vote for Bush if you approve of the lies being told to pursue American Imperialism under the guise of a war on terror.
Vote for Kerry if you don't approve of the lies, but still support American Imperialism under the guise of a war on terror.
That's my take on what's going on. :guill:
I wouldn't say Bush lied about Iraq; his intelligence was faulty. If you think Bush lied, then you have to think all of congress (including Kerry) lied, as they all voted for the war.
Bush is a dumbass and a tool. Kerry is a dumbass and a tool. However, I think Bush is less of a tool than Kerry by far, so I will vote for Bush probably.
Marajadex
Jul 26th, 2004, 2:32 AM
Vote for Bush you want too see America lose freedoms. I have already lost too much in the past year because of the current administrations policies. I have lost faith in and respect for my government. I have lost faith in our electoral system. I have lost faith in the security of this country. I am numb to the constant notice of potential terroist threats. I have lost a job due to the economy failing. I have lost retirement savings through the fall of mutual funds. I don't want to lose any more.
mickydoolittle
Jul 26th, 2004, 2:42 AM
I have lost a job due to the economy failing. I have lost retirement savings through the fall of mutual funds. I don't want to lose any more.
Well, if your going to cast blame, then cast it upon those more responsible than a figurehead like Bush.
Blame your economy woes on Greenspan and investor confidence. Those are the primary forces behind the apparent slighted economy.
If you don't want to lose anymore, then don't vote for Kerry. He wants more Gov't funded social programs which are funded by increased taxes. No one wants increased taxes except for the lazy no goods that sit on their ass all day with their hand out--waiting for the money you and I work so hard for to be given to them.
Screw that for a carry on.
Well, if your going to cast blame, then cast it upon those more responsible than a figurehead like Bush.
Blame your economy woes on Greenspan and investor confidence. Those are the primary forces behind the apparent slighted economy.
If you don't want to lose anymore, then don't vote for Kerry. He wants more Gov't funded social programs which are funded by increased taxes. No one wants increased taxes except for the lazy no goods that sit on their ass all day with their hand out--waiting for the money you and I work so hard for to be given to them.
Screw that for a carry on.
humanhybrid
Jul 26th, 2004, 3:10 AM
Marajadex ; I am sorry to hear that you have lost a job! Hang in there! Is there a chance that you will be called back? Are you union? Im glad that you are open. Please personally email me if I can be of assistance! Its really a good day! "the Budell" :bye:
MetalMilitia
Jul 26th, 2004, 3:43 AM
You're drownding out all the other stuff in Politics & Current events by making a new Bush vs Kerry thread every 4 hours.
I wouldn't say Bush lied about Iraq; his intelligence was faulty. If you think Bush lied, then you have to think all of congress (including Kerry) lied, as they all voted for the war.
Now you're on to something. I had it in my head that somone should be held responsible, but all they did was shake each others hands. Blaming faulty intelligence is their way out, but if they weren't comfortable using it, then why did they hype it so much.
I'm voting for Ozzy.
-MM- :crs:
I wouldn't say Bush lied about Iraq; his intelligence was faulty. If you think Bush lied, then you have to think all of congress (including Kerry) lied, as they all voted for the war.
Now you're on to something. I had it in my head that somone should be held responsible, but all they did was shake each others hands. Blaming faulty intelligence is their way out, but if they weren't comfortable using it, then why did they hype it so much.
I'm voting for Ozzy.
-MM- :crs:
playmaker88
Jul 26th, 2004, 3:57 AM
http://www.anvari.org/fun/Political/Bush_Binoculars.html
Haven't seen this one in a while. It's still relevant though. Lest we forget.
Vote away people.
Haven't seen this one in a while. It's still relevant though. Lest we forget.
Vote away people.
Marajadex
Jul 26th, 2004, 7:56 PM
Well, if your going to cast blame, then cast it upon those more responsible than a figurehead like Bush.You are right MD.... I blame the figure heads administration. My loss of a job was directly related to the economy. I worked in the entertainment industry at a live stage production house. Non Profit no less. We handled 3 facilities. When people started losing jobs to out-sourcing and downsizing... well there was no money for frivolous entertainment like renewing season tickets to musical theatre. Let alone make donations. Bills and home responsibilities came first as they should. We were actually lucky some of the theatres in the area actually had to close.
VegasRonin
Jul 26th, 2004, 8:26 PM
So tired of Bush vs Kerry. There's no frickin difference. Kerry and his wife do appear to be strangers to each other though. Watching the couple together reminded me of Michael Jackson and Elvis' daughter. Totally unnatural!
MetalMilitia
Jul 26th, 2004, 9:58 PM
Reasons to vote for Bush:
1) National Security
He slept through reports citing attacks. Illegal immigrants are pouring through the border on a daily basis, in fact... I just saw recent video of people crossing from Mexico this week. If you can send troops to Iraq, and 'secure' Fallujah, then for ****s sake... KEEP THEM OUT.
2) Economy
Today the United States finds itself in an interesting if not all together unexpected state of affairs relative to its self-proclaimed role as economic and military hegemonist.
The Iraq war smolders as Americans and Iraqis continue to die in insurgent attacks, which could erupt into full-fledged civil war. And that could leave U.S. troops with no role other than as targets.
The embers of the war in Afghanistan could re-ignite into a new confrontation between American troops and the Afghan warlords.
Add to this the U.S. threats against North Korea, Syria and Iran, and America finds itself with only one major coalition ally joining us in taking on a global war on terror. Meanwhile, we seem to be totally incapable of helping to bring about some hope for peace in the Israeli-Palestinian matter, which continues to be the key to peace in the Middle East.
The war on terror continues to maintain a hold on our national psyche as we seem to be caught in a holding pattern -- not sure how, when or whether we should feel safe enough to return to the business of developing new markets and sustaining our role as the world's most dynamic economy.
4) Homeland Security
Policies leading to invasion of privacy, and loss of rights / freedoms. The Bill of Rights apparently doesn't mean much anymore. I refer to the shady PATRIOT act, signed at the midnight hour, amid fear of anthrax and bio attacks. It has been admitted that some people that signed it, did not even get to read it in full.
5) Forgien Policy
Going gung ho, ignoring the UN, and Starting a war based on faulty intelligence, and having to change your story in order to coordinate what you're doing is NOT good foreign policy. From what I gather upon reading 'world' news (not CNN, not FOX) opinions of the US are that of arrogance, and recklessness.
Come on non-US posters, surely you have a wonderful opinion of our 'Commander in Chief.' Dutchie, I think you might have something to say about this.
Vote for Bush you you want too see America remain free.
Yeah, 'cause he's doing a great job preserving freedoms.[/sarcasm]
Vote for Kerry is you want to see Terrorist take command.
Thatis ridiculous, and no... I'm not voting for Kerry. Just midless rhetoric. I'm sure he would sell the US to china and move to France.
(theres plenty more those are just the 5 Biggest)
He's doing a stellar job. 4 more wars.... err... 4 more years!
-MM- :crs:
1) National Security
He slept through reports citing attacks. Illegal immigrants are pouring through the border on a daily basis, in fact... I just saw recent video of people crossing from Mexico this week. If you can send troops to Iraq, and 'secure' Fallujah, then for ****s sake... KEEP THEM OUT.
2) Economy
Today the United States finds itself in an interesting if not all together unexpected state of affairs relative to its self-proclaimed role as economic and military hegemonist.
The Iraq war smolders as Americans and Iraqis continue to die in insurgent attacks, which could erupt into full-fledged civil war. And that could leave U.S. troops with no role other than as targets.
The embers of the war in Afghanistan could re-ignite into a new confrontation between American troops and the Afghan warlords.
Add to this the U.S. threats against North Korea, Syria and Iran, and America finds itself with only one major coalition ally joining us in taking on a global war on terror. Meanwhile, we seem to be totally incapable of helping to bring about some hope for peace in the Israeli-Palestinian matter, which continues to be the key to peace in the Middle East.
The war on terror continues to maintain a hold on our national psyche as we seem to be caught in a holding pattern -- not sure how, when or whether we should feel safe enough to return to the business of developing new markets and sustaining our role as the world's most dynamic economy.
4) Homeland Security
Policies leading to invasion of privacy, and loss of rights / freedoms. The Bill of Rights apparently doesn't mean much anymore. I refer to the shady PATRIOT act, signed at the midnight hour, amid fear of anthrax and bio attacks. It has been admitted that some people that signed it, did not even get to read it in full.
5) Forgien Policy
Going gung ho, ignoring the UN, and Starting a war based on faulty intelligence, and having to change your story in order to coordinate what you're doing is NOT good foreign policy. From what I gather upon reading 'world' news (not CNN, not FOX) opinions of the US are that of arrogance, and recklessness.
Come on non-US posters, surely you have a wonderful opinion of our 'Commander in Chief.' Dutchie, I think you might have something to say about this.
Vote for Bush you you want too see America remain free.
Yeah, 'cause he's doing a great job preserving freedoms.[/sarcasm]
Vote for Kerry is you want to see Terrorist take command.
Thatis ridiculous, and no... I'm not voting for Kerry. Just midless rhetoric. I'm sure he would sell the US to china and move to France.
(theres plenty more those are just the 5 Biggest)
He's doing a stellar job. 4 more wars.... err... 4 more years!
-MM- :crs:
Conservative Front
Jul 26th, 2004, 10:32 PM
Kerry's not going to change the current boader laws he wants to open them up more. and lets not forget Kerry missed an important briefing on National Security for his Campaign. and Trust me If I could Id have the National Guard Guarding are boarders and there'd be a 3 strike rule. Guess what happens the 3rd time we catch you...
We only have one major ally? When did Poland,Britian,Japan,Israel,Saudi Arabia,new Iraq,etc... Merge into one Country?
Are market numbers have gone way up and investor confidents is up as well. Look at the Stock Market and compare it too 2 years ago and tell me its not in good shape...
Ok, Heres a hypothetical situtain theres an Arabic man walking down the road with a huge duffle bag with Wires and crap sticking out of it should the police.
A) Search Him
B) Watch him close
C)none of the above it Violates his rights.
Unfortiunaly the correct answer is C a judge ruled yesterday that we can not search suspicious people. Isn't that violating my rights? What If I get caught in bomb blast wouldn't that violate my right to freedom? Think about this homeland security is a double edged sword it has its benefits but its not with out shortcomings but the benefits outweighed the shortcomings. To protect the people and ensure we are free.
Does it really matter what the Corrupt U.N. really thinks of us? Come on are you so blind you can't see the only reason they didn't want us in Iraq was because there top dollar "leaders" lost a business partner?
And Forgien opinion? Who's opinion did you read? France,Canada? Iran's? Give me a break Read Polands,Britians,etc... See what the spanish troops had to say about there new government.
If you take away you're sarcasm quote you would be right.
I totally agree 4 More Years! :thumbs:
---end response to MM---
We only have one major ally? When did Poland,Britian,Japan,Israel,Saudi Arabia,new Iraq,etc... Merge into one Country?
Are market numbers have gone way up and investor confidents is up as well. Look at the Stock Market and compare it too 2 years ago and tell me its not in good shape...
Ok, Heres a hypothetical situtain theres an Arabic man walking down the road with a huge duffle bag with Wires and crap sticking out of it should the police.
A) Search Him
B) Watch him close
C)none of the above it Violates his rights.
Unfortiunaly the correct answer is C a judge ruled yesterday that we can not search suspicious people. Isn't that violating my rights? What If I get caught in bomb blast wouldn't that violate my right to freedom? Think about this homeland security is a double edged sword it has its benefits but its not with out shortcomings but the benefits outweighed the shortcomings. To protect the people and ensure we are free.
Does it really matter what the Corrupt U.N. really thinks of us? Come on are you so blind you can't see the only reason they didn't want us in Iraq was because there top dollar "leaders" lost a business partner?
And Forgien opinion? Who's opinion did you read? France,Canada? Iran's? Give me a break Read Polands,Britians,etc... See what the spanish troops had to say about there new government.
If you take away you're sarcasm quote you would be right.
I totally agree 4 More Years! :thumbs:
---end response to MM---
Chrisboe4ever
Jul 26th, 2004, 10:42 PM
I kinda agree with 4 more years. With Bush in office, more people are waking up to the corruptness of the government and New World Order agendas. If Kerry took over, those who had woken up would most likly fall back asleep because Bush, their common enemy, has been taken out. And Kerry is just as bad as Bush, only difference is that Kerry is smart.
MetalMilitia
Jul 26th, 2004, 11:22 PM
Just so you know CF I'm not voting Kerry so stop acting like I'm defending him. If he were president, and lied to me, I would be grilling him as much as Bush.
Kerry's not going to change the current boader laws he wants to open them up more. and lets not forget Kerry missed an important briefing on National Security for his Campaign. and Trust me If I could Id have the National Guard Guarding are boarders and there'd be a 3 strike rule. Guess what happens the 3rd time we catch you...
Ok, so why can we go halfway across the world and try to 'secure' Iraq, when our own borders are wide ****ing open. It makes no sense. I would just put a line of machine gun turrets up, then let them try to cross. Vote MetalMilitia.
Are market numbers have gone way up and investor confidents is up as well. Look at the Stock Market and compare it too 2 years ago and tell me its not in good shape...
And who said no one likes war. It's good for 'certain' businesses.
Meanwhile, the minimum wage isn't livable, and homelessness is as rampant as ever. For 1/100th of what we spent in Iraq, I wonder how many homes could have been built or schools, or shelters. It boggles the mind. Oh that's right, there's a site dedicated to that. ( http://www.costofwar.com )
Ok, Heres a hypothetical situtain theres an Arabic man walking down the road with a huge duffle bag with Wires and crap sticking out of it should the police................... Isn't that violating my rights? What If I get caught in bomb blast wouldn't that violate my right to freedom? Think about this homeland security is a double edged sword it has its benefits but its not with out shortcomings but the benefits outweighed the shortcomings. To protect the people and ensure we are free.
1. That is profiling.
2. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
If they have probable cause, then knock themselves out. what part of unreasonable searches and seizures don't you get? America should be above all this, but people like you want everyone watched, noted, and herded. You're trading freedoms in the name of 'security'. You have a bigger chance of being murdered by some random crime than by terrorism. Just move to CA and hang with those crowds, you'll be one of the 1500+ that died in a period of a year.
Hell, you have a better chance of being run over by a teenage driver. Wait a minute... I don't trust you now, because lookie here : Birthday: October 28, 1986 - You're gonna MOW ME DOWN!!! What If I get caught in your headlights, wouldn't that violate my right to freedom?
Does it really matter what the Corrupt U.N. really thinks of us? Come on are you so blind you can't see the only reason they didn't want us in Iraq was because there top dollar "leaders" lost a business partner?
Ok. Yeah, I'm for less world government, but the US is not the moral voice, nor is it the worlds police. Most countries have ongoing discussions, and negotiations, and that's how they prefer to work shit out. Whatever.
And Forgien opinion? Who's opinion did you read? France,Canada? Iran's? Give me a break Read Polands,Britians,etc... See what the spanish troops had to say about there new government.
LOL Britain! Don't mind me, but it was Tony bLIAR being grilled on his fauly intelligence. Poeple are saying it wasn't worth invading Iraq the way we did, and they view it as an ongoing problem. Reasonable assumption.
Think back to pre-Iraq war. How many 'Pro war' rallies did you see with hundreds of thousands of people hitting the streets. None that I recall. I don't know what new sources you read (probably FOX and NEWSMAX) but there's a lot of criticism going on about how Bush handles things. You just don't catch any of it in 'american media.'
If you take away you're sarcasm quote you would be right.
I speak fact, not sarcasm. Bush or Kerry, it's not gonna make one shred of difference. They wrote in the old days that it is sweet and fitting to die for one's country. But in modern war, there is nothing sweet nor fitting in your dying. You will die like a dog for no good reason.
-MM- :crs:
Kerry's not going to change the current boader laws he wants to open them up more. and lets not forget Kerry missed an important briefing on National Security for his Campaign. and Trust me If I could Id have the National Guard Guarding are boarders and there'd be a 3 strike rule. Guess what happens the 3rd time we catch you...
Ok, so why can we go halfway across the world and try to 'secure' Iraq, when our own borders are wide ****ing open. It makes no sense. I would just put a line of machine gun turrets up, then let them try to cross. Vote MetalMilitia.
Are market numbers have gone way up and investor confidents is up as well. Look at the Stock Market and compare it too 2 years ago and tell me its not in good shape...
And who said no one likes war. It's good for 'certain' businesses.
Meanwhile, the minimum wage isn't livable, and homelessness is as rampant as ever. For 1/100th of what we spent in Iraq, I wonder how many homes could have been built or schools, or shelters. It boggles the mind. Oh that's right, there's a site dedicated to that. ( http://www.costofwar.com )
Ok, Heres a hypothetical situtain theres an Arabic man walking down the road with a huge duffle bag with Wires and crap sticking out of it should the police................... Isn't that violating my rights? What If I get caught in bomb blast wouldn't that violate my right to freedom? Think about this homeland security is a double edged sword it has its benefits but its not with out shortcomings but the benefits outweighed the shortcomings. To protect the people and ensure we are free.
1. That is profiling.
2. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
If they have probable cause, then knock themselves out. what part of unreasonable searches and seizures don't you get? America should be above all this, but people like you want everyone watched, noted, and herded. You're trading freedoms in the name of 'security'. You have a bigger chance of being murdered by some random crime than by terrorism. Just move to CA and hang with those crowds, you'll be one of the 1500+ that died in a period of a year.
Hell, you have a better chance of being run over by a teenage driver. Wait a minute... I don't trust you now, because lookie here : Birthday: October 28, 1986 - You're gonna MOW ME DOWN!!! What If I get caught in your headlights, wouldn't that violate my right to freedom?
Does it really matter what the Corrupt U.N. really thinks of us? Come on are you so blind you can't see the only reason they didn't want us in Iraq was because there top dollar "leaders" lost a business partner?
Ok. Yeah, I'm for less world government, but the US is not the moral voice, nor is it the worlds police. Most countries have ongoing discussions, and negotiations, and that's how they prefer to work shit out. Whatever.
And Forgien opinion? Who's opinion did you read? France,Canada? Iran's? Give me a break Read Polands,Britians,etc... See what the spanish troops had to say about there new government.
LOL Britain! Don't mind me, but it was Tony bLIAR being grilled on his fauly intelligence. Poeple are saying it wasn't worth invading Iraq the way we did, and they view it as an ongoing problem. Reasonable assumption.
Think back to pre-Iraq war. How many 'Pro war' rallies did you see with hundreds of thousands of people hitting the streets. None that I recall. I don't know what new sources you read (probably FOX and NEWSMAX) but there's a lot of criticism going on about how Bush handles things. You just don't catch any of it in 'american media.'
If you take away you're sarcasm quote you would be right.
I speak fact, not sarcasm. Bush or Kerry, it's not gonna make one shred of difference. They wrote in the old days that it is sweet and fitting to die for one's country. But in modern war, there is nothing sweet nor fitting in your dying. You will die like a dog for no good reason.
-MM- :crs:
MetalMilitia
Jul 26th, 2004, 11:32 PM
By the way, DBA had it right the first time.
-MM- :crs:
-MM- :crs:
Conservative Front
Jul 27th, 2004, 10:59 PM
Wow, I never though this would happen I agree with you on this because I wouldn't mind seeing some Machine gun turrets go up with mix them with some land minds and where good to go :shot:
Ok, how much would you be willing to pay for a Mcdonalds hamburger? If Minium wage goes up that means the cost of everything goes up If a Mcdonalds owner is forced to pay there hamburger flippers 10$ Per hour Do you really think that Double Cheeseburger is going to stay 1$? No course it's not that price would probably double. Plus whats a reasonable price for minium wage? 10$ P/h? 15$ p/h? Is it really worth that much to pay someone For there first job?
and I say let the homeless take care of themselves they choose where they are in life not me I didn't screw them I don't wanna pay for them They could take there money they earn from the bleeding hearts and buy some cloths and get a job but no instead they spent there handouts on booze Why should i care about these people that CHOOSE too do nothing with there lifes. We have enough schools, If people want a house they can buy one (ill be damned if i'm gonna pay for it) So yeah the cost of war seems ok to me because Id rather pay for freedom then pay for a bum or an illegal thats too lazy to work.
I wasn't profiling I was using it as an example. ok lets get rid of Arabic man and replace it with White Man is it ok now?
Most pro-war people are conservatives therefor they have jobs that need to be there attention not a Pro-War Rally. the GOP convention should prove as a Pro-war rally though
---end response to MM---
Ok, how much would you be willing to pay for a Mcdonalds hamburger? If Minium wage goes up that means the cost of everything goes up If a Mcdonalds owner is forced to pay there hamburger flippers 10$ Per hour Do you really think that Double Cheeseburger is going to stay 1$? No course it's not that price would probably double. Plus whats a reasonable price for minium wage? 10$ P/h? 15$ p/h? Is it really worth that much to pay someone For there first job?
and I say let the homeless take care of themselves they choose where they are in life not me I didn't screw them I don't wanna pay for them They could take there money they earn from the bleeding hearts and buy some cloths and get a job but no instead they spent there handouts on booze Why should i care about these people that CHOOSE too do nothing with there lifes. We have enough schools, If people want a house they can buy one (ill be damned if i'm gonna pay for it) So yeah the cost of war seems ok to me because Id rather pay for freedom then pay for a bum or an illegal thats too lazy to work.
I wasn't profiling I was using it as an example. ok lets get rid of Arabic man and replace it with White Man is it ok now?
Most pro-war people are conservatives therefor they have jobs that need to be there attention not a Pro-War Rally. the GOP convention should prove as a Pro-war rally though
---end response to MM---
dutchie
Jul 28th, 2004, 1:58 AM
Burgers from MacDonald's are filth. I wouldn't care if they went up to $100, I'd never eat crap garbage like that. :eww: :yikes:
I'd could post you an article on what happens MacDonald's slaughterhouses in South America that would make you NEVER want to touch another one for the rest of your days, but - alas - it's in Dutch...
I'd could post you an article on what happens MacDonald's slaughterhouses in South America that would make you NEVER want to touch another one for the rest of your days, but - alas - it's in Dutch...
dutchie
Jul 28th, 2004, 2:07 AM
BTW, CF - what does the word "forgien" mean?!? Could it be that you meant "foreign"?!?
I hate it when native speakers that are so proud of their nation have no problem screwing up its language...
I hate it when native speakers that are so proud of their nation have no problem screwing up its language...
humanhybrid
Jul 28th, 2004, 3:39 AM
TEHRAN (AFP) - Iran hit out at the US decision to grant protected status to the Iraq (news - web sites)-based People's Mujahedeen, the main Iranian armed opposition group, saying it proved Washington's war on terrorism was a sham. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040727/wl_mideast_afp/iran_us_opposition_iraq
stewey
Jul 28th, 2004, 7:07 AM
Burgers from MacDonald's are filth. I wouldn't care if they went up to $100, I'd never eat crap garbage like that. :eww: :yikes:
I'd could post you an article on what happens MacDonald's slaughterhouses in South America that would make you NEVER want to touch another one for the rest of your days, but - alas - it's in Dutch...
McDonalds, KFC and Walmart are three places I won't do business.
I'd could post you an article on what happens MacDonald's slaughterhouses in South America that would make you NEVER want to touch another one for the rest of your days, but - alas - it's in Dutch...
McDonalds, KFC and Walmart are three places I won't do business.
A Lone Voice
Jul 29th, 2004, 2:28 AM
Ok, so why can we go halfway across the world and try to 'secure' Iraq, when our own borders are wide ****ing open. It makes no sense. I would just put a line of machine gun turrets up, then let them try to cross. Vote MetalMilitia.
-MM- :crs:
One thing you haven't mentioned, nor has anyone else, is the fact that Kerry is a Democrat, and will drag along all that liberal baggage in every decision he makes.
Democrats (at least the left-wing zealots here in California) want an open border with Mexico. The liberal newspapers in my state no longer refer to illegal aliens as illegal aliens; instead, they are referred to as "undocumented workers." Even if they do not work.
The "progressives" want illegal aliens to have the right to obtain drivers licenses. When Governor Arnold wanted to include a symbol indicating the illegal status of the license holder, the Democrats howled, comparing it the Star of David the Jews had forced upon them by the Nazis.
Compare Bush vs. Kerry all you want; I just think it is more important to compare Democrats vs. Republicans, especially when discussing such topics as border security....
-MM- :crs:
One thing you haven't mentioned, nor has anyone else, is the fact that Kerry is a Democrat, and will drag along all that liberal baggage in every decision he makes.
Democrats (at least the left-wing zealots here in California) want an open border with Mexico. The liberal newspapers in my state no longer refer to illegal aliens as illegal aliens; instead, they are referred to as "undocumented workers." Even if they do not work.
The "progressives" want illegal aliens to have the right to obtain drivers licenses. When Governor Arnold wanted to include a symbol indicating the illegal status of the license holder, the Democrats howled, comparing it the Star of David the Jews had forced upon them by the Nazis.
Compare Bush vs. Kerry all you want; I just think it is more important to compare Democrats vs. Republicans, especially when discussing such topics as border security....
humanhybrid
Jul 29th, 2004, 4:08 AM
Compare Bush vs. Kerry all you want; I just think it is more important to compare Democrats vs. Republicans, especially when discussing such topics as border security... Not a question of Democrats vs. Republicans, its a real question of security. Are the Mexicans a security threat to our nation? Not! Even the ones who are considered cartels are only taking advantage of a market that AMERICANS want and pay for, otherwise known as a cash crop. Bush refers it to capitalism and we know how far he will go to get it, dont we? Now you have hard working mexicans documented and not documented working in the USA and they pay taxes and will gladly work at minimum wage at places americans wouldnt think of working. But wait where is the terrorist threat?? Say whatever you wish, soon whites will be the minority in California, the whites will be assimilated and California will be a part of Mexico again. Buenas Noches! :scatter:
Marajadex
Jul 29th, 2004, 5:09 PM
A few years ago I went with some friends to the Canadian US border in Blain WA. We parked on the US side and walked around the park there. Walking around we found this 3 foot chain link fence with a gate in it. Not knowing where the path lead we followed through the gate. Lo and behold we were walking the streets in a resedential area of Canada. No one to stop us from crossing. No inspection of us. No one even noticed when we walked back through the gate to the US. Makes one think...
MetalMilitia
Jul 29th, 2004, 5:44 PM
I can argue his Iraq debacle indefinatly. Here's another reason to be worried: Money.
But hey, what's half a trillion...it's our kids & grandkids and great-grandkids et al that'll pay, not us.
"The White House will project soon that this year's federal deficit will exceed $420 billion, congressional aides said, a record figure certain to ignite partisan warfare over President Bush's handling of the economy."
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=5&u=/ap/20040728/ap_on_go_pr_wh/budget_deficit
And how to spin this really BAD news??? Easy...it's LESS of a record deficit than bush had forecast 5 months ago...That's great.
-MM- :crs:
But hey, what's half a trillion...it's our kids & grandkids and great-grandkids et al that'll pay, not us.
"The White House will project soon that this year's federal deficit will exceed $420 billion, congressional aides said, a record figure certain to ignite partisan warfare over President Bush's handling of the economy."
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=5&u=/ap/20040728/ap_on_go_pr_wh/budget_deficit
And how to spin this really BAD news??? Easy...it's LESS of a record deficit than bush had forecast 5 months ago...That's great.
-MM- :crs:
playmaker88
Aug 2nd, 2004, 3:54 AM
Are the Mexicans a security threat to our nation? Not! Even the ones who are considered cartels are only taking advantage of a market that AMERICANS want and pay for, otherwise known as a cash crop.
If it's easier to get into the US through Mexico, what's to stop the terrorists coming in through Mexico as opposed to turning up at a high security check at an American airport. If the Mexicans can flood through that border with relative ease, so can others.
Terrorists are going to look for the easiest way in, be it with hard-working Mexicans or Marajadex's countryside gate.
If it's easier to get into the US through Mexico, what's to stop the terrorists coming in through Mexico as opposed to turning up at a high security check at an American airport. If the Mexicans can flood through that border with relative ease, so can others.
Terrorists are going to look for the easiest way in, be it with hard-working Mexicans or Marajadex's countryside gate.
stewey
Aug 2nd, 2004, 4:26 AM
If it's easier to get into the US through Mexico, what's to stop the terrorists coming in through Mexico as opposed to turning up at a high security check at an American airport. If the Mexicans can flood through that border with relative ease, so can others.
Terrorists are going to look for the easiest way in, be it with hard-working Mexicans or Marajadex's countryside gate.
I agree totally.
Terrorists are going to look for the easiest way in, be it with hard-working Mexicans or Marajadex's countryside gate.
I agree totally.
Dhanishta
Aug 2nd, 2004, 6:14 AM
Want an outsider's opinion? Don't vote for either! Bush is a warmonger and is up to his smelly armpits in Iraqi oil. Kerry is not appealing at all and is probably mind screwed from Vietnam. Vote for the Greens if you have an american equivalent! At least it's not like having to choose one of two rotten apples in the barrel.
stewey
Aug 2nd, 2004, 6:50 AM
Want an outsider's opinion? Don't vote for either! Bush is a warmonger and is up to his smelly armpits in Iraqi oil. Kerry is not appealing at all and is probably mind screwed from Vietnam. Vote for the Greens if you have an american equivalent! At least it's not like having to choose one of two rotten apples in the barrel.
Id rather Libertarians. Kerry won't make many different choices than Bush, and offers the same empty promises.
Id rather Libertarians. Kerry won't make many different choices than Bush, and offers the same empty promises.
substand
Aug 3rd, 2004, 3:18 AM
i'm no democrat, but if you give me your political philosophy, i'm sure i can give you ample reason not to vote for bush, animefreak.
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