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lotrfan55345
Jul 26th, 2004, 12:23 PM
ourteen Characteristics of Fascism

Dr. Lawrence Britt, a political scientist, wrote an article about fascism which appeared in Free Inquiry magazine -- a journal of humanist thought. Dr. Britt
studied the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile). He found the regimes all had 14
things in common, and he calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The article is titled 'Fascism Anyone?', by Lawrence Britt, and appears in Free
Inquiry's Spring 2003 issue on page 20.

The 14 characteristics are:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism -- Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia.
Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights -- Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that
human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need". The people tend to 'look the other way' or even approve of torture, summary executions,
assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause -- The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived
common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military -- Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding,
and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism -- The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are
made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

6. Controlled Mass Media -- Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by
government regulation, or through sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in wartime, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security -- Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined -- Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public
opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the
government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected -- The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power,
creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed -- Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated
entirely or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts -- Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon
for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the
arts.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment -- Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing
to overlook police abuses, and even forego civil liberties, in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in
fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption -- Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to
government positions, and who use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for
national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections -- Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against (or
even the assassination of) opposition candidates, the use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and the manipulation of the
media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

Wow, sound familiar?

Chrisboe4ever
Jul 26th, 2004, 12:48 PM
Yes, it does sound familiar! It sounds just like Nazi Germany. Or is it present day America? I can never tell the difference anymore.

Conservative Front
Jul 26th, 2004, 10:55 PM
1) Yeah, because loving you're nation makes you a fascist. But then again according too this every nation is a fascist even the Soviet Union... interesting Maybe we should all just fly a black flag that way no wait thats still a flag I geuss even the Anarchist are fascist...

2) Like suddam? or Are you refereing to the patriot act? What kind of human rights are you taking about now this could be directed in so many directions.

3)So as long as no one believes that same its not a fascist regime right? people can't unify for a common cause? So the Democratic national Committee is a fascist regime? They have rallied to get Bush out of office so that makes them fascist.

4)Maybe we shouldn't have a strong military so we can be over run. Maybe we shouldn't pay our soliders who keep us free and allow you to post this rhetoric. but again This makes a whole lot of countrys fascist.

5) Damn this makes 2/3 of the world fascist regimes... What are we gonna do. We gotta stop this people from stopping people from killing babys thats just SICK

6) Does Liberal Dominace over the media and hollywood count as fascism?

7) Yeah lets get rid of national security you know having a secure country would certianly make us fascist....

8) Can't believe you posted this one. Can't say America falls under this.

9) hahahaha lets get rid of all the big businesses and the stock market and then we will see just how good are economy does.

10) Yeah labor unions... not having those I can see where that leads to fascism because if a PRIVATE ENTERPRISE doesn't have a union then there fascist for sure.

11) Don't know why you posted this one either College kids whine and protest crap on a daily basis

12)well, this one is flawed too

13)hmm... another interesting one nothing to do with America strange...

14)Yep, he's another one about Gore not getting into office meant the election was rigged right?

No, it doesn't really sound familiar. This sounds like Radical Left-Wing Idealogy. Try thinking for yourself.

midnightsonblaze
Jul 27th, 2004, 3:35 AM
Fourteen Characteristics of Fascism

To Counter Your Opinions CF.....I'll throw out my OWN OPINIONS on this matter...........

The 14 characteristics are:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism -- WE WANT YOU!.....Sound familiar....not only is that around I can't go one day without seeing at least 20 Army commercials....Flags are seen everywhere (in or on most buildings), as are flag symbols on clothing (Tommy Hilfiger, Polo.....).

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights -- Pretty Simple......Abu Gahrib....Guantanamo Bay........

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause -- Osama, Al-Queda, Al-Sadr.....etc.......

4. Supremacy of the Military -- Strongest military in the world

5. Rampant Sexism -- Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy. Gay Marriage Ban.....

6. Controlled Mass Media -- CNN, Faux News, MSNBC....only reporting what THEY THINK we should know....

7. Obsession with National Security -- Homeland Security & the Terror Alert System

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined -- I can't count how many times Boy George has thrown God in his speeches....Religion and Govt don't mix....Keep thy religion to thyselves!

9. Corporate Power is Protected -- Cheney protecting Haliburton and getting them contracts in Iraq.......

10. Labor Power is Suppressed -- Do Unions or even Teamsters matter anymore?? You don't want to work....they'll hire scabs.....

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts -- The Govt is constantly cutting money to schools when needed and putting it into the military's hands...basically not even caring for the student either it be art or regular schooling....

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment -- Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing
to overlook police abuses, and even forego civil liberties, in the name of patriotism......RECENT CRIME IN OSKOSH, WI......recent example of police abuses against it's citizens

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption.....

14. Fraudulent Elections -- Don't even get me started on this.....wasn't it just funny how it all ended up being down in FL.....the STATE WHERE GEORGE'S BROTHER IS THE F'N MAN.....UGH....PLEASE HELP ME




:thumbs:

playmaker88
Jul 27th, 2004, 5:23 AM
8) Can't believe you posted this one. Can't say America falls under this.


You are having a laugh. It would seem you suffer from tunnel vision.

---end response to Conservative---

stewey
Jul 27th, 2004, 5:52 AM
5. Rampant Sexism -- The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are
made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

Bush is against homosexual marraige and abortion, but so are quite a few people. However, he does have Condi Rice, among other women. Cannot really say this applies. Basically ties into his religion.


1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism -- Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia.
Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
VERY VERY common during war. With exception of Vietnam, this happened in every war.


6. Controlled Mass Media -- Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by
government regulation, or through sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in wartime, is very common.
Certinaly does not apply. Media seems to be more liberal biased, although it depends what channel you watch. Fox is more conservative, CNN/MSNBC is more liberal.


3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause -- The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived
common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
Saying that terrorists are the cause is pretty damn accurate I would say in this case.


4. Supremacy of the Military -- Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding,
and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
Eh, not sure this really applies. We are at war, you gotta fund the troops.


14. Fraudulent Elections -- Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against (or
even the assassination of) opposition candidates, the use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and the manipulation of the
media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

Sorry, Bush won fair and square. Quit your bitching, Gore lost by the rules. Florida recount shows Bush won 4/5 of the recounts. The only votes that "were thrown out" were convicts (whos votes do not count as per rules).


12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment -- Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing
to overlook police abuses, and even forego civil liberties, in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in
fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption -- Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to
government positions, and who use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for
national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.


I wouldn't say this applies moreso than any other government in the world.


11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts -- Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon
for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the
arts.
Certainly doesn't apply.



9. Corporate Power is Protected -- The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power,
creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed -- Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated
entirely or are severely suppressed.
Doesn't apply anymore than any other presidency.


8. Religion and Government are Intertwined -- Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public
opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the
government's policies or actions.
Yeah Bush does seem to be a bit too religious, I agree here.


7. Obsession with National Security -- Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
Yeah, this is true. But I cannot say I blame them.


2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights -- Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that
human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need". The people tend to 'look the other way' or even approve of torture, summary executions,
assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

Oh boo hoo, cry me a river (if it is about camp XRay, which I am guessing). The ones at Camp XRay are the same ones who hide in hospitals and schools, they're the suicide bombers, they have important information to catch more terrorists, and if torturing them is needed, I fail to feel sorry for them. If you are caught fighting for Al Queda/Taliban, you deserve no rights IMO.

lotrfan55345
Jul 27th, 2004, 9:33 AM
Who is this "you" everyone is reffering too, Dr. Lawrence Britt?

Conservative Front
Jul 27th, 2004, 10:44 PM
This professor take on fascism, is direct to anything Right-Wing. Perhaps we should define fascism. fascism is complete Power to the state if America was a fascist state you wouldn't be allowed to post this kind of rhetoric or think it for that matter. These 14 charcterist are ANYTHING right-wing if it doesn't fall under a Socialist state then there fascist in his eyes. This is One sided rhetoric thats the opinion of 1 man you can't really take this serious because his Agenda is blantly socalism give this 1 sided 1 manned opinion to people and ask them if they believe thats fascism. Of course the Socailist are going to agree but even most Liberals aren't no centrist will and of course no Conservative will and last NO fascist WILL.

stewey
Jul 27th, 2004, 11:19 PM
The characteristics are pretty vague and can be applied to any government for the most part.