Birds of a feather flocking together

[Conservative Front]

(text edited due to anti-islamic (Dutchies Left Elitist Anti-Semetic) and generally racist (based on left agenda opinions) and hatemongering nature (Bigot: A Conservative winning an argument with a liberal).

[dutchie]

You are on the edge of getting ALL of your posts deleted, CF. This is a neutral board, and you are posting outright anti-islamic propaganda, for which this board will accept NO reponsibility.

A number of people posting here are NOT American, and they don't need or WANT your dribble.


This post was deleted by Dutchie, for reasons of racist and / or hatemongering tendencies.

[Conservative Front]

Racist and hatemonger? no... they where facts. When are you going to delete HH anti-sematic posts? Yes this is a neutral board and I was posting something that was about Radical Islamics. This was not Racist. Perhaps it was Racist in you're left-agenda mind but why don't you let the people decide instead of you're Baseless, One-sided opinion.

[dutchie]

The very reason I decided to delete your post was the FACT that you did NOT SPECIFICALLY said it was about any radical movement. You kept it very generalizing.

I laid out my decision before the board of mods, and they agreed your post was going too far.

If there are any posts by anyone out of line, you always have the option to REPORT posts to the mods, who will promptly (if available) decide if your report was justly made and will act upon it.

I am not biased when it comes to racism, bigotry or prejudice. I am just plain against those. :nudge:

[Bigsky770]

(text edited due to anti-islamic (Dutchies Left Elitist Anti-Semetic) and generally racist (based on left agenda opinions) and hatemongering nature (Bigot: A Conservative winning an argument with a liberal).

. . .You really don't know Hans at all, do you? If you really knew him, you would know that he is more *centrist* than anything. . .And knowing him as I do, he is certainly NOT a "bigot", nor a "racist".

. . .The ice you are treading on is about 3 microns thick; DON'T MESS WITH THE MOD SQUAD! :rgrgrg:

Joe (Bigsky770)

[substand]

i wish i could've responded to/read this... growing up around of "jihadists" and all...

being blind to the post though, i would only say:

1) there has (imo) been a lot of jew hating allowed to post (though maybe not to the anti-arab extent this was, i cannot say bc i never saw it)
2) maybe he could have used a public flogging to help change his mind (and again, i never got to read the original post)

and CF, if there was anything bad about dutchie in there, I cetainly have to agree with bigsky... I might not agree with dutchie (Hans as joe said) politically, but he is certainly well respected, at least I respect him- and if you blamed him for what it appears that you did, then you better rethink the way you posted your message, and redo it without the offensiveness. I'm not one to get offended at all, and if you attack me i'll take it in jest, but I have to think it was really bad and a personal shot to get it deleted.

if anyone wants to tell me i'm wrong, please do... i've only worked on vague assumptions here, since i didn't get to read the original post.

[prezhorusin04]

The mods will kill you CF..They will find out where you take your walks, where you drive to work, the bed you sleep in..The mods know all, hear all, and see all..they know when you are sleeping, they know when you're awake, they know when you've been bad or good..So BE GOOD FOR GOODNESS SAKE!!!! :yikes:

They might be called Mods, but moderation is not their calling..They tend to hack and slash, take heads, and add human fingers to their belt buckle..I've seen some of their closets, it's a bloody mess in there.!!! :yumyum:

Anyway..The killing and sickness is on all sides..But America is to be held especially accountable..And Britain and Israel.

[humanhybrid]

1) there has (imo) been a lot of jew hating allowed to post (though maybe not to the anti-arab extent this was, i cannot say bc i never saw it)
2) maybe he could have used a public flogging to help change his mind (and again, i never got to read the original post)

and CF, if there was anything bad about dutchie in there, I cetainly have to agree with bigsky... I might not agree with dutchie (Hans as joe said) politically, but he is certainly well respected, at least I respect him- and if you blamed him for what it appears that you did, then you better rethink the way you posted your message, and redo it without the offensiveness. I'm not one to get offended at all, and if you attack me i'll take it in jest, but I have to think it was really bad and a personal shot to get it deleted.

if anyone wants to tell me i'm wrong, please do... i've only worked on vague assumptions here, since i didn't get to read the original post I would love to tell you substand that it is only human nature that the jews act against humans. They only hide in a shell called "Jew" to justify their objectives. Its not that we should hate the jew but hate what they do to their fellow humans. It is simple substand and every ethinic group of this planet has violated this simple statement. We are evolving and I have great hope!

[dutchie]

HH... Your posts stink of antisemitism. Am I biased for wanting to ban you?!? Nope. You are just violating board rules. This is a final warning.

[lotrfan55345]

You (CF) ruined the editing feature for all of us!

:boxer: :crs: :shot:

[Emerald_Dragon]

ditto on what subs said.

>why don't you let the people decide instead of you're Baseless, One-sided opinion.

you helped decide it with your redundant posts. you're an extremist. and you haven't replied to many of my responses on your statements. you're not discussing points, you're propagandizing your POV. goto college, it'll help.

and didya know? dutchie is jewish. and pretty neutral at that. it must have been way OTT, he's allowed other extreme posts stand, before now.

[Bigsky770]

. . . What is getting you all into trouble is when you class entire groups of people, by race, creed or colour, in one broad, sweeping stroke as being against or hating another people, because you say that the one hates the other thinking they themselves superior and the other lesser. In doing this, you are attempting to define an entire race and further DEFINING YOURSELF AND YOUR BELIEF SYSTEM. While there are existent within every race, creed, and colour of people those that believe that they are superior to those around them if for merely the fact that they BELIEVE themselves to be BETTER does not make this so. Examples: The "KKK"; Fundamentalist extremist Muslims; Fundamentalist extremist Christians; Zionist Jews. (the list is never-ending) and is the very thing that has been setting-up conflict between the peoples' of the world since time immemorial. These racist and bigoted peoples connect themselves with a religion, a people, a colour, and by doing so believe it will not only garner them the support they need in continuance, but also bless them with a profound sense of their 'belonging' in this way to that which they connect with.

. . . Perhaps our greatest failure is that people are encouraged to define race, religion, colour, what have you accomplished then but to cast aside your fellows in preference to that which you so profoundly connect with?

. . . We are ONE PLANET; ONE RACE of PEOPLE upon THIS PLANET. There is NO GREATER/NOR LESSER. This is the very lesson we need to learn IF we are to survive. Are you going to be part of the problem, or part of the cure?

Joe (Bigsky770) :vbroll:

[Bushnell]

Very good point Bigsky770! We are ONE PLANET; ONE RACE of PEOPLE upon THIS PLANET. There is NO GREATER/NOR LESSER.

[Defiant Noquisi]

. . . . We are ONE PLANET; ONE RACE of PEOPLE upon THIS PLANET. There is NO GREATER/NOR LESSER. This is the very lesson we need to learn IF we are to survive. Are you going to be part of the problem, or part of the cure? Im gonna cure it by being Indian. :lol:

[Bigsky770]

. . .When we 'focus' on those things that make us different, (and doing this to the most absurd degree) we set ourselves aside from those we see as 'different' which draws us apart, setting-up conflict. If we instead were to focus upon those things that make us similar, and embrace the 'common threads' that all people of the earth share, it would draw us together as a world.

. . .Just a thought. . . .

Joe (Bigsky770) :vbroll:

[Defiant Noquisi]

There is nothing wrong with being different and not seeing it in a negative way. All my life social "rules" of life have tried to make me into something I am not. I will never conform to someone else's ideology, I will never see myself as the same as anyone else and I dont see others as the same as me. There is absolutely nothing wrong with looking at another person and embracing what makes them an individual, or of a particular race, or of anything. If I am not making differences a negative, they arent.

You may say the glass is half empty, someone else may say its half full. Ill tell you its the wrong size glass. Who is wrong for seeing things differently? Where is this wedge to drive us apart if no one creates one in the first place?

[Bigsky770]

. . . I did say "to an ABSURD degree". One such as yourself, in that I know you, are a well-balanced individual, but though to, I would have to ask, do you consider this, (your nationality by birth, WHICH you had no control over) as a 'curse' (or) a 'blessing?' Because if you really think about it, I would think that if you consider it as either, you are setting yourself aside as different instead of focusing upon the 'commonality' that we all share.
. . . Think about it; Strip away the 'facade' of race, creed, or colour, and in the end, what have you left? Would you feel as though your 'identity' was lost? Does it matter that much to you? Do you have the strength of knowing what defines 'you' aside from that which you were just 'born' into?
. . . I myself am not ashamed nor proud of my nationality; I am neither. How can I take pride (or) shame into that which I was born into?

Joe (Bigsky770) :vbroll:

[Defiant Noquisi]

I would have to ask, do you consider this, (your nationality by birth, WHICH you had no control over) as a 'curse' (or) a 'blessing?' Because if you really think about it, I would think that if you consider it as either, you are setting yourself aside as different instead of focusing upon the 'commonality' that we all share. I set myself aside as different regardless of how I feel about the country. Im not the same as anyone else here. If youre talking nationality, I consider myself a Cherokee decendant first because my ancestors were here first. If Americans were here first and then Cherokees came here, I would consider myself American first. Its a years thing.


Think about it; Strip away the 'facade' of race, creed, or colour, and in the end, what have you left? I would never consider it a facade so I cant even answer that. There is nothing artificial or fake about my race. Im a little offended by that. I dont wear a mask that can just be taken off on a whim.


Would you feel as though your 'identity' was lost? Does it matter that much to you? Do you have the strength of knowing what defines 'you' aside from that which you were just 'born' into? It means everything to me. Just because I dont buy that melting pot story doesnt make it wrong that I am proud of who I am. These types of questions are a good example of what I had posted earlier. It isnt wrong if you dont make it that way.

[Bigsky770]

. . . Rather, it was a challange to look beyond. As you point out only to well, this is not something everyone can do easily. I may not understand your reasoning, but I respect and value your opinion.

. . . That you are hurt by what I had posted, I am sorry. Forgive me for that.

Joe (Bigsky770)

[substand]

I would love to tell you substand that it is only human nature that the jews act against humans. They only hide in a shell called "Jew" to justify their objectives. Its not that we should hate the jew but hate what they do to their fellow humans. It is simple substand and every ethinic group of this planet has violated this simple statement. We are evolving and I have great hope!

i'd like to think that is just sarcasm... but i'm not so sure...

and thanks hans...

[Defiant Noquisi]

. . . Rather, it was a challange to look beyond. As you point out only to well, this is not something everyone can do easily. I may not understand your reasoning, but I respect and value your opinion. Joe, what you are asking me to do is to forget for a moment that I am Indian, and look at how I would be if I did. I cannot do that. Being "American" is also a culture, it is made up of many cultures and always will be. Removing cultural differences would wipe out a huge portion of America's own.

It offends me when people think I should just up and forget what makes me different and special. It invalidates me as a human being. Whats really fubared about that type of thinking is they are putting down my culture (as well as others) while elevating their own to being superior to mine. So, if its okay for someone else to have their culture, why is it wrong for me to have mine?

Im sorry Joe, I know you are not being fecicious in your post. But its that kind of thinking that has made it difficult for people of color or culture to be accepted and it does no good for anyone. There is no rule or law that states in order to be a citizen we have to give up who we are. For many years there were laws on the books that basically made it illegal for Indians to be Indians. We did finally have many of those laws removed. Its a battle we had been waging for over 500 years.

Its even more interesting nowadays that people think Indians are cool when the skins and feathers are on (in other words, Indian culture is cool as long as we are all Hollywood romanticized Plains Indians), but when we get political we are reminded of the "melting pot" and that we should just get over it. As long as people think that way and expect me to as well, I will never get over it. The culture of my ancestors was here long before anyone else and here it will stay.

I dont expect everyone to become Indians, but Id at least like the same respect.

[substand]

those evil jews are at it again- look what i found: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm

[Defiant Noquisi]

those evil jews are at it again- look what i found: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm Maybe they are really a race of lizard space aliens dressing the part of Jewish people so they could be more sociably acceptable.

[substand]

Maybe they are really a race of lizard space aliens dressing the part of Jewish people so they could be more sociably acceptable.

I see no reason to denigrate lizard space aliens by likening them to jews. I think the jews do a good job of defining themselves as filthy baby eaters themselves.

[humanhybrid]

I see no reason to denigrate lizard space aliens by likening them to jews. I think the jews do a good job of defining themselves as filthy baby eaters themselves. Please elaborate Substand. It seems pretty weird that your saying such about baby eaters. :eek:

[Defiant Noquisi]

I believe he's making sport of my post HH. :alien:

[dutchie]

HH - please learn something from the sarcasm-dripping posts that were slapped in your face, and show some dignity by NOT putting up a fight in sarcasm of which the end could never benefit you in any way.

Please take some advice from me, BEFORE I interfere.

Subs and DN, 'nuff's 'nuff... Thank you.

[humanhybrid]

I believe he's making sport of my post HH. Thanx DN! but I did find the protocals of the elders of zion scary and intresting

[Defiant Noquisi]

Subs and DN, 'nuff's 'nuff... Thank you. My p0stage has been smited by his High Dutchness. :yummm: :Bott: