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Reef Badlaw
Feb 10th, 2011, 1:14 AM
It's flat.
It's decorated with Earth-creatures, mostly. And straight lines.
The 'undecorated' sections are still artificially flat.

Sections of mountains were pulverized to insure a general flatness.
No prehistoric creatures are depicted.
The lines don't conform to electromagnetic lines-of-force.

The depictions can only be discerned from a great height.
The assumption is that 'spacecraft' would hover, utilizing a tripod.
A conventional craft's landing-gear would vandalize the surface.

Huge 'mother-ships' don't require depictions-of-creatures as markers.
Most of the pulverized mountain-material is missing.
The lines don't conform to any Earth-date, positionally juxtaposed.

What probably happened:
A huge craft carved-a-landing-spot for reasons unknown, the crew interacted with native Peruvians, craft-and-crew left, and the ancient Peruvians painstakingly 'sculpted' the designs as a way of saying; thanks, look what we did for you.

But those lines... those damned straight lines... Their meaninglessness means something. Perhaps they're alien words... lines-without-curves is their 'alphabet'.

Nu Kua
Feb 10th, 2011, 6:58 AM
I also think the drawings were done for "decoration", for fun, for something to do at one point, or maybe to appeal/honor the sky people, whatever.
I think the straight lines might be from where "sky craft" took off and landed.
imho

JenaS62
Feb 10th, 2011, 7:14 AM
I agree. The straight lines look exactly like modern day airports.

Nu Kua
Feb 10th, 2011, 7:22 AM
Sometimes I imagine the sky people etching the lines themselves from above; well when you consider they can really only be made out from above, that is what that makes sense, that they are cosmic doodles. They appear almost randomly produced, not arranged in any particular order or design.

"Here, look what I can do with this!"

custompainter
Feb 10th, 2011, 10:57 AM
We have a kind of alphabet with straight lines....called a bar code. Maybe thats how they keep track of the planets from a distance.
Im not seeing a link or a pic here reef. Hence my stupid guess lol.

Rabid1
Feb 10th, 2011, 11:13 AM
Given the religious origins some people believe they came from the straight lines could be considered paths to enlightenment or to the "gods" themselves'.

With the rituals that may have been involved and their participants long gone we may never know exactly what they were for. So much eveidence of symbolism remains yet nothing about the purpose like the broken pottery at points on the lines. Was it left a tokens to their gods and broken over time or shattered as an offering?

Reef Badlaw
Feb 10th, 2011, 1:24 PM
We have a kind of alphabet with straight lines....called a bar code. Maybe thats how they keep track of the planets from a distance.
Im not seeing a link or a pic here reef. Hence my stupid guess lol.

No links, because I was 'doodling' within the thread myself, fresh from viewing the latest UFO-over-Nazca vid on ufo-digest;

http://www.ufodigest.com/article/ufo-over-nazca-lines-peru

compelling

Ningishiddza
Feb 10th, 2011, 8:18 PM
Sometimes I imagine the sky people etching the lines themselves from above; well when you consider they can really only be made out from above, that is what that makes sense, that they are cosmic doodles. They appear almost randomly produced, not arranged in any particular order or design.

"Here, look what I can do with this!"

I can't find a photo, but as your flying east over the Pacific toward Nazca, there is a glyph on the mountain side that leads to the sea.

That glyph is in the shape of a trident and it has been stylized a bit.

Found a photo:

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSkWbP5Qbga0CZCUjdIcn474_7mqqN6O fyrBy_3BUc1bU7exhUp

Now if I can just find the other photo.

One of the Hittite "gods" is has his symbol carved into a rock someplace in Turkey and his trident is identical to the one at Nazca.

There's also a depiction of a Babylonia (meaning Amorite not Chaldean) "god" with a trident that is also identical.

I can't remember the name of the Hittite god exactly, I think it is Teshub who is the Babylonian (Amorite not Chaldean) Addad who was the younger brother of Ninurta.

Ooops a little quick on the draw there... anyway the question is how in the hell would people in Peru know what Teshub's trident looks like or why would they carve it there.

Reef Badlaw
Feb 11th, 2011, 1:00 AM
And why would a trident-depiction feature 'suspension', or 'stabilization support-girders' attached-to the central stanchion... ?

Von Daniken alludes to a trident/candleabra configuration, as flames seem to be flickering on one 'stem'...

Nu Kua
Feb 12th, 2011, 8:08 AM
I can't find a photo, but as your flying east over the Pacific toward Nazca, there is a glyph on the mountain side that leads to the sea.

That glyph is in the shape of a trident and it has been stylized a bit.

Found a photo:

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSkWbP5Qbga0CZCUjdIcn474_7mqqN6O fyrBy_3BUc1bU7exhUp

Now if I can just find the other photo.

One of the Hittite "gods" is has his symbol carved into a rock someplace in Turkey and his trident is identical to the one at Nazca.

There's also a depiction of a Babylonia (meaning Amorite not Chaldean) "god" with a trident that is also identical.

I can't remember the name of the Hittite god exactly, I think it is Teshub who is the Babylonian (Amorite not Chaldean) Addad who was the younger brother of Ninurta.

Ooops a little quick on the draw there... anyway the question is how in the hell would people in Peru know what Teshub's trident looks like or why would they carve it there.

http://speakreason.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/tridents1.jpg

http://speakreason.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/1teshub.gif

http://speakreason.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Ninurta-assyr.jpg

There are others showing the trident but I'm afk, my own at least. For instance, there is also a Hindu god holding a trident as well, some ancient Norse rock carving, too. Also some ancient coins from Macedonia and even Ireland.

Ningishiddza
Feb 12th, 2011, 8:53 AM
http://speakreason.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/tridents1.jpg

http://speakreason.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/1teshub.gif

http://speakreason.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Ninurta-assyr.jpg

There are others showing the trident but I'm awk, my own at least. For instance, there is also a Hindu god holding a trident as well, some ancient Norse rock carving, too. Also some ancient coins from Macedonia and even Ireland.

Those are the same. The one I'm talking about is identical. It matches their mythology, which says two separate groups of bearded white men came, one group attacked the other and was defeated and left. The other group of bearded white men remained, but left later (at the end of the 4th Sun or 4th Age or Age of Jaguar or Age of Heroes depending on the Culture) because of a war somewhere else and promised to return.

That myth is very similar to the Mexica-Nuatl (Mayan) myth and the myths of other groups in Meso-America where the serpent/plumed serpent (Quetzalcoatl/Thoth/Ningishiddza) destroyed a group of gods then had to leave to fight in a war somewhere else and promised to return but didn't.

Teshub, Addad (Haddad) and Ninurta were Enlil's sons.

Nu Kua
Feb 12th, 2011, 10:13 AM
So, trident=water, or a fishing spear, god-of-the-sea, as opposed to three-pronged lightning, a storm god. Somewhere there is a depiction of the clans fighting and one group had the lightning, the other were holding an actual trident.

So back to Nazca, there is a hummingbird, and then a condor,a parrot of some sort, a bird with hands, and a heron, a monkey with a cool spiral tail, a dog, a human, a tree, a fish or a whale, and some trapezoids that look a little like cuneiform, one looks like a rocket.
Each being all drawn using a continuous line, like they were cut with a beam. So cool.
Land, sea, sky, and fire. Probably has nothing to do with it, just something I noticed.

Reef Badlaw
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:49 PM
So, trident=water, or a fishing spear, god-of-the-sea, as opposed to three-pronged lightning, a storm god. Somewhere there is a depiction of the clans fighting and one group had the lightning, the other were holding an actual trident.

So back to Nazca, there is a hummingbird, and then a condor,a parrot of some sort, a bird with hands, and a heron, a monkey with a cool spiral tail, a dog, a human, a tree, a fish or a whale, and some trapezoids that look a little like cuneiform, one looks like a rocket.
Each being all drawn using a continuous line, like they were cut with a beam. So cool.
Land, sea, sky, and fire. Probably has nothing to do with it, just something I noticed.

Not that I believe the Nazca-depictions were made this way, but I did see a 'university experiment' (can't recall the show, the college, the location... was similar desert-like, with stones) where the professor remained in a fixed spot, and the students (connected by long ropes) carried-out the professor's instructions. It took a few days, plus I can't even remember the creature they depicted, but the finished design roughly resembled it. The prof either had to shout or make hand-gestures, as the students were given a steady supply of rocks.

Yes, my first thought was a beam, but now I'm wavering...

Nu Kua
Feb 12th, 2011, 1:14 PM
Reef, is it from the Skeptical Inquirer? A reproduction and alternative-to-sky-people theory is discussed and depicted here (http://www.onagocag.com/nazca.html).

I am obviously biased toward it being the work of sky people, but that's a pretty good reproduction they've got there.

Reef Badlaw
Feb 13th, 2011, 5:37 PM
Reef, is it from the Skeptical Inquirer? A reproduction and alternative-to-sky-people theory is discussed and depicted here (http://www.onagocag.com/nazca.html).

I am obviously biased toward it being the work of sky people, but that's a pretty good reproduction they've got there.

Yes, Nu... that's it. Thank-you. They were serious and thorough, but obsessively anti-Von Daniken, which made me suspicious. In other words, too intent on proving the depictions weren't created by beams, but ignoring Von Daniken's main point of the depictions being truly appreciated from a great height. I'm pretty sure he was aware of the pottery-finds. -And what about the 'alien-being in a boiler-suit' pic? The skeptics glossed-over that.

Rabid1
Feb 13th, 2011, 6:26 PM
Unfortunately with climate change as it has been one good storm cold literally end the mystery forever.

Nu Kua
Feb 13th, 2011, 7:34 PM
Y In other words, too intent on proving the depictions weren't created by beams, but ignoring Von Daniken's main point of the depictions being truly appreciated from a great height. I'm pretty sure he was aware of the pottery-finds. -And what about the 'alien-being in a boiler-suit' pic? The skeptics glossed-over that.

"depictions being truly appreciated from a great height" is the single biggest indicator that, at least, if not created by people from above, they would be created at the instruction of people from above, perhaps they were instructing Earth people on where to turn and such. There is no other explanation that makes sense simply because it can only be seen in full from a very high distance.


Pictures of people in space suits are dotted all throughout ancient history. What do the 'experts' suggest it else might be? Usually they go with some sort of "cult" gear, attributing to it some religious meaning. There's a statue of Inanna wearing clearly identifiable space suit gear, and many references to her speak of how she loves to fly about, or referring to she having been seen flying about.

Why do the most 'renowned' experts go to such great links to deny the obvious in this case? I think it's because admitting it means, everything would have to be re-written. Imagine the implications.

Oh, just imagine! Maybe that's why John Lennon wrote the song.


Unfortunately with climate change as it has been one good storm cold literally end the mystery forever.

What? How do you mean?

Rabid1
Feb 13th, 2011, 11:13 PM
What? How do you mean?

One reason the Nazca lines are still visible is Nazca is about as null an area for weather as you can get. I think they measure it in CM per decade. But because of deforestation they have had flooding mudslides in the area in the last few years and with all the weather changes one severe rainstorm could literally wipe many out with ground flooding.