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TC
Feb 19th, 2011, 11:41 AM
Last night we recorded -44C in northern Sweden, as well as -31 in Stockholm and its continuing through the week end. Trains and buses have all but stopped, Iphones don't work, and water mains froze at 2 meter depths. This was the coldest since the all time record of -53C ( thats 64 below 0 in Fahrenheit. You can't shut off diesel engines at -40 as they won't start, and car windshields near explode when heat hits them. Never seen anything like it.
Amaris
Feb 19th, 2011, 12:37 PM
Wow!! That's really cold. I hope it's getting warmer soon. This is very dangerous.
Amaris
Traveler
Feb 19th, 2011, 1:00 PM
Here in BC Canada we dropped to -34c last night. The drop was sudden and dramatic in that we were only in the teens the day before. And we're in one of the warmer parts.
alpha
Feb 19th, 2011, 4:14 PM
Last night we recorded -44C in northern Sweden, as well as -31 in Stockholm and its continuing through the week end. Trains and buses have all but stopped, Iphones don't work, and water mains froze at 2 meter depths. This was the coldest since the all time record of -53C ( thats 64 below 0 in Fahrenheit. You can't shut off diesel engines at -40 as they won't start, and car windshields near explode when heat hits them. Never seen anything like it.
That will be that EXTREME global warming causing Extreme global cooling! Not!!!!!! Major warm jetstream on the way Shorty, or so Metcheck says. UK had a sniff of winter today, nothing like December. Seems like we are the only country in the Northern Hem actually gettin an average winter !!
http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/jetstream.asp
Protostar
Feb 28th, 2011, 2:44 PM
I'm hearing alot of this stuff lately. I am completely convinced that we
have "reached the end of the warm weather line" and will soon decend
into decades of cold., I wonder why SCOTLAND has not recorded temps
this cold before shorty? Is it because of the "missing" thermosphere?
Is it the HEAVY WATER MOLECULES?
I WATCH and I WAIT for the "summer that never comes" and I pray
that it is NOT this year even though I "feel" that it IS coming due to
the "break down" of all comprehensable weather patterns.
Stock up on the scotch!
TC
Mar 16th, 2013, 1:40 AM
Bump...
this March is one of the coldest on record for Scandinavia, normally mid March is early spring, yet the last three days have seen 20 to 30 below nighttime temperatures and minus 10 during the day... and the coming week is the same. SMHI ( the Swedish met office) is at a loss as to why the sub freezing temperatures continue, a three week arctic phenomenon that has remained in place regardless of low or high pressure systems.
Protostar
Mar 17th, 2013, 7:31 AM
There's gotta be a crack in the atmosphere...letting in that "space cold". We are on the "cusp" of equinox, the planet should warming shouldn't it? I just read an article that the ozone holes are creating "situations" In the atmosphere near the south polar region. As you know, the sun's CME just made it to earth as seen on spaceweather.com auroric oval plot.
Traveler
Mar 18th, 2013, 4:45 AM
Well we have warmed up enough to get snow again, But I must admit this last winter was not as cold as the year before, but that does not mean much as it would still be record low for you guys. Guess its time to install block heaters in your car sumps as well.
TC
Mar 18th, 2013, 7:13 AM
Most cars here have block warmers, as its a rip on the engine to start it at -20. I had to add a concentrate to my diesel as it wouldn't fire.... thats cold. This week its still -10 with two days of heavy snow coming in Wed. night. I doubt we'll see spring in April.
Last week central Europe got buried from Paris to Hamburg, same weird Arctic air.
Rockytrawn
Mar 19th, 2013, 10:06 AM
Here in California we are having a nice warm March - it was over 75 two days ago, it is a little cooler today as the jet stream shifts bringing the rains. We are worried that the jet stream will drop down and freeze the strawberries.
TC - you have about 6 or 7 more years of cold with increases in chill - about the time you begin to believe in a second ice age and then for about 20 yers it will warm and we will once more hear about global warming. 1972 we had some killer cold stateside it got down to -30 in Idaho! I was a starving student without a car, and walking to the University was a daily near death experience. I would scoot into various gas stations and stores to get warm - one happened to be a military recruiter - when he explained that it ws 72 degrees in Texas and that is where training for the Air Force would take place - it tipped the balance...
Are some of your volcanos going off and adding to the cloud cover?
TC
Mar 19th, 2013, 11:33 AM
I believe its cyclic Rocky, and given the 4 previous ice ages and the subsequent inter-glacial warming ( 20,000 years roughly) we have a bit left of this one, having started in the early Holocene 12,000 years ago. It will get warmer during the last push of this current warming period, but the beauty of the earths ability to compensate is with ocean evaporations and dispersion of precipitation.
This balance has existed all through the previous ice ages with pack ice lowering sea levels enough to release trapped methane gas on continental shelves, which in turn warms the atmosphere and slowly moves towards the next inter-glacial warming, and in response to a warmer planet, the eventual snow in higher latitudes that reflects sun light.
Germany has had increasingly cold winters 5 years in row now, completely counter to earlier doom and gloom man made effect predictions of an eventual snow free Europe. This same precipitation has flooded a good part of the European continent consecutively the last 8 summers, in some places doubling the annual rain fall. Its all a fantastic solar/oceanic reaction system, and far more complex that previous models had predicted. And throw in the odd volcanic eruption, and it cools down even more.
Rockytrawn
Mar 19th, 2013, 12:14 PM
I seem to remember just a couple of years ago a global warming conference was going on in Sweden and they were worried that the alps would stop having skiing and that polar bears were losing their ice cubes. Whole Islands would wash away, does this mean that we will now have a little polar ice and that sea levels will remain constant? (Much of the island problem seems to be that old volcanic islands tend to sink and form atolls and that plates tilt so that land drops while sea level remains pretty constant...
What say you TC?
TC
Mar 19th, 2013, 4:05 PM
Well it ( global warming conferences) and others like it was the media darling and #1 grant getter of the last decade. In their panic to stop global warming....and not sail off the edge of a flat earth, they managed to get most of the western world to buy over priced "green" products. Probably one of the most successful political platforms ever devised, ( and marketing)
The billions spent to combat this so called man made evil... they probably could re-float a few islands... lol
Meanwhile the 20,000 plus islands in the Swedish archipelago are rising by 1" a year... so fast that they annually have to re due the sounding maps for boat traffic. ( guess it can't keep up with the ice melt * cough
Tired Old Man
Mar 19th, 2013, 8:56 PM
I like the way you think TC. So when are you moving to Florida ? I'm sure you still have plenty of time before the sea levels get to high.
TC
Mar 25th, 2013, 11:47 AM
The parking sign is 6ft tall.... ( sorry for the sideways photo) the drifts closed the road for two days. Still digging out. -12 the last three days..... and this is spring.
Tired Old Man
Mar 25th, 2013, 4:32 PM
A year with no spring ? Whats next, summer.
Protostar
Mar 26th, 2013, 9:20 PM
So that's what my "homeland" looks like! :) awesome. I'm noticing that people who live ABOVE 45 degree latitude north region, all across the globe, have been dealing with immense cold and snow this winter. It almost seems that "the polar region" is hanging onto its water! I have checked out the north pole's sea ice and compared it to the past 13 years and it looks to me like the ice is getting thicker. I'm wondering why the temperature does not go up when the pressure rises. What type of mechanism ignores high pressure? Could this be due to some kind of "blocking mechanism" caused by our ocean currents?
Protostar
Apr 5th, 2013, 8:20 AM
hello tc, have you thawed out yet???
Rockytrawn
Apr 6th, 2013, 11:03 AM
Our temps dropped a little, late frosts that picked the plums and peaches, and we will not much in the way of wildflowers this year - just when I needed blooms to gen up protection for my rare garden of native plants...What we did get is dry weather, very little rain - two years ago too much, this year just a few sprinkles. We won't have rains until the cycle shifts a bit.
Could this cold be part of the NK problem? Extra cold, high heating costs, food production down, and economics pushing them to do something drastic? North Korea was cold even during the Korean War....
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