View Full Version : Kerry a conservative?
substand
Aug 12th, 2004, 12:55 AM
There's many more quotes than this one, but this one in particular speaks volumes:
"I actually represent tthe conservative values that they [rural Americans] feel."
Anyone have any reason through Kerry quotes to beleive he is no different than Bush, and if so, what are they?
Especially all you, like DN, who are voting for Kerry because he's "not Bush." ... quotes like this surely have to make you think twice about him not being Bush, right?
DontBeAfraid
Aug 12th, 2004, 3:57 AM
Bush is obviously NOT conservative.... so maybe the labels have flip flopped.... Bushites call me the liberal but applaud bush when he gives billions to very special interests, like haliburten(sp)......
Rage_Garden
Aug 12th, 2004, 4:35 AM
Quote one of my friends, George Bush is a Republican Light. I cant tell whats what anymore.
substand
Aug 12th, 2004, 6:33 AM
Bush is obviously NOT conservative
I'll certainly agree with that statement... maybe "halliburton" is the special interest for you, but i'd include farmers and steel workers much more so.... i yearn for the Reagan days when "the forgotten special interest group was the american people" (a paraphrase)... but alas, the question was not about Bush or Reagan, it was about Kerry... and is Kerry "not Bush" when he makes claims to be Bush-like, or is he liberal as the record sugguests, or is he a man of "values," when the word seems to have massively entered his vocabulary only since June, or is he a liberal as his record would sugguest, or is he schitzo as his speech would suggest (which might also mean he's a lib)?
My main question is, if you are voting for, or hoping Kerry will win, why? His speech to me seems like he is no diff than what we have... his record is certainly different in many aspects and the same in many others.... But if he proposes to be what Bush proposes to be, whats the point in voting for him over Bush?
I know he said "we've got better hair," but other than that, why?
DontBeAfraid
Aug 12th, 2004, 4:54 PM
The world likes him. Why have the world hate our president? Bush is way to religious for me anyway.
substand
Aug 14th, 2004, 12:53 AM
the world does like kerry... why does the world hate our president? who knows? the world may be jealous... they may just dislike war so much they weren't convinced of its neccesity, even in afghanistan. they may not like him because he's republican. but what doesn't matter in elections in the US (and hopefully elections in every other country as well) is the opinion of "the world."
terrorists like kerry too, and hate dubya... if we're considering the world's view in an election, I'd consider foreign leaders first (who, while they may not support the war in iraq, do and continue to, support the general war on terror), terrorists, and then peon voters in other countries. So thats 2 votes for Bush, 1 for kerry, and I'm still not voting for either.
I certainly wouldn't base my vote on better hair... but I'd be more apt to base it on that, as opposed to "the world likes him."
In any case, and not that it matters, I'm not so sure the world likes him so much as they just dont like Bush. Especially considering that he voted for Bush foreign policies, and then didn't vote for them, and then did, and then didn't, and then did.... and didn't.. and who knows where it ends... but he's certainly said in a lot of cases he would continue Bush FP... but then in others he's said he wouldn't... In my own mind, I think he would continue most of them... but its really hard to tell based on what he's said and done.
So is it thats he's just "not Bush?"
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