The Revelation of the Pyramids

[Anarch]

Most epic Egypt world history connect the dots Doc I have seen in awhile.

It takes you here it takes you there it draws great incidences and does not force anything down your thought hole.

Your left to draw your own conclusion ...

About the only thing The missed was factoring in Kunkles work proving the plumbing of the insides of the great pyramid.

Other then that...fucking epic.


Below is part one of seven you can watch the rest at youtube or download it from where ever.

if you like docs or egypt
I would highly recommend you give at least this 5 minutes if not the full 15 if not WATCH THE WHOLE DANG THING

It was awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXSYCVAjJsc

[Lillith]

Very interesting Anarch, thanks.

One thing that came to mind regarding the time frames mentioned was man power logistics. The Egyptians had available to them millions of slaves from near and afar. The relocating of the Abu Simbal structure to dryer grounds was not conducted by "slave" labor so depending on the urgency paid labor would have to be budgeted. Mechanical advances would have also replaced raw physical power and laborers.


The other temple that supposedly took 150 years due to geographical location probably had limited human resources with which to complete the work.

[Anarch]

OH man it is good stuff... the fitted stone architecture , the alignments of constellations and sites far off, the overwhelming sacred geometry, the notion that all the measurement tools we use to analyze these sites did not exist for them allegedly so with only stone and copper chisel and no way to double check their work just HOW IN THE MAGICAL FUCK DID THEY DO IT?!

Answer: it does not include a rock and copper chisel

[hobobone]

Ive seen many programs on the building of the pyramids...This one is really great. Ive watched the first 15 minutes and will be watching them all..Thanks Anarch

[Anarch]

Sweet... I know I got enthralled with it.

[LoudAmerican]

Most epic Egypt world history connect the dots Doc I have seen in awhile.

It takes you here it takes you there it draws great incidences and does not force anything down your thought hole.

Your left to draw your own conclusion ...

About the only thing The missed was factoring in Kunkles work proving the plumbing of the insides of the great pyramid.

Other then that...fucking epic.


Below is part one of seven you can watch the rest at youtube or download it from where ever.

if you like docs or egypt
I would highly recommend you give at least this 5 minutes if not the full 15 if not WATCH THE WHOLE DANG THING

It was awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXSYCVAjJsc
great set of video clips! Thanks for hooking us up! :2thumbs:

[TC]

Nice find,

I'll watch the rest when I get home from work.

[Vuall]

I'll be watching the whole DANG thing (if that means all of it) tonight.

Thanks dude. For this you are forgiven.

[Vuall]

WOW part seven just blew my mind a little bit.

[Anarch]

I know...

A celestial clock.

Thats pretty freaking intense

All the same I'd like to see a remastered copy with some plumping and electrical engineers added into the list of architects and what not ...

It is a multifunctional thing...

not a lousy tomb.

IMHO

[hobobone]

WOW part seven just blew my mind a little bit.

Hobo reaches across the Aisle..Extends Hand..

I have found something i can agree with you on Vuall..And unlike most Americans i can agree on something for more than 5 minutes...:2thumbs:

[hobobone]

I was very impressed with "The Revelations of the Pyramids" Series.

The fact that so many mathematical equations came from the measurements of the Pyramids is fascinating..A possible Clock or Calendar?...A message from time?..Or a time capsule with the dates of catastrophic demise? ....Intriguing..

On Youtube i went on to watch another series " The Pyramid Code". While this series isnt quite as scientific or documented, It did however explore the possibility of the Pyramids generating electric or magnetic current. I found this very interesting as ive played with magnets and collected them from childhood...

[Fut004]

Most epic Egypt world history connect the dots Doc I have seen in awhile.

By far the best thing you've ever posted on AO, Ana.
Well done.

This is seriously the best explination I've ever seen for the Pyramids, and for all the other bizarre and unexplainable ancient sites across the planet.

The best part about this idea is the thought that "people" on this planet were way more advanced than we are currently - it means we have something to strive for, something we know that we can eventually figure out and accomplish.

Of course the flip-side to that awesomeness is that we've apparently got a time limit to figure this shit out. From the looks of things, not too much is going to survive after ~whatever~ happens. So what does this mean, is the only real option of humankind survival to find a way to leave the planet for good?



I was very impressed with "The Revelations of the Pyramids" Series.

By "series" are you referring to this 7-clip Video we all just watched or is there more of this greatness out there waiting for me to watch?

[hobobone]

By far the best thing you've ever posted on AO, Ana.
Well done.

This is seriously the best explination I've ever seen for the Pyramids, and for all the other bizarre and unexplainable ancient sites across the planet.

The best part about this idea is the thought that "people" on this planet were way more advanced than we are currently - it means we have something to strive for, something we know that we can eventually figure out and accomplish.

Of course the flip-side to that awesomeness is that we've apparently got a time limit to figure this shit out. From the looks of things, not too much is going to survive after ~whatever~ happens. So what does this mean, is the only real option of humankind survival to find a way to leave the planet for good?




By "series" are you referring to this 7-clip Video we all just watched or is there more of this greatness out there waiting for me to watch?

Sorry for not explaining better, i meant the 7 clip video...However the " The Pyramid Code" presents different perspectives worth noting. While not as scientifically accurate, it takes a fairly good look at ancient civilizations..Could it be that ancient civilizations were far more intelligent than we have thought?...Possibly far more intelligent than we are, only in a somewhat different direction..

[Vuall]

I sometimes wonder, did we miss Armageddon?

Did it take place in our distant past?

Artefacts unearthed from civilisations that were on earth 200 million years ago.

Are the biblical accounts just racial memories written down by the survivors of an ancient Armageddon?


Conclusion

With the destruction of the ancient libraries of Alexandria and China, the only remaining records of the very ancient past are to be found in India and Tibet. They speak of a golden age when men could fly in fantastic craft that could defy gravity. What happened to these fabulous civilisations? It appears that they we obliterated from the face of the earth in a series of environmental catastrophes. Such was the ferocity and scope of the destruction that virtually nothing remained. But as shown above, evidence has been coming to light. As this evidence slowly accumulates, it is becoming increasingly clear that man has had a far more glorious past than the one that has been painted by modern archaeology.

http://hallofthegods.org/articles/evidence-of-advanced-ancient-technology.html

[Fut004]

Sorry for not explaining better, i meant the 7 clip video...However the " The Pyramid Code" presents different perspectives worth noting. While not as scientifically accurate, it takes a fairly good look at ancient civilizations..Could it be that ancient civilizations were far more intelligent than we have thought?...Possibly far more intelligent than we are, only in a somewhat different direction..

Damn, that's too bad.

I'll check out The Pyramid Code though, it sounds interesting enough to watch. Thanks for letting us know about it.

I've always been under the belief that our ancient ancestors were far more advanced than "we" think they were, probably more advanced than we currently are - Just, like you said, in a different way. I don't think they had electronics and all that like we do, they had something less complex.

This is a good discussion for it's own thread, don't you think?


I sometimes wonder, did we miss Armageddon?

Did it take place in our distant past?

Artefacts unearthed from civilisations that were on earth 200 million years ago.

Are the biblical accounts just racial memories written down by the survivors of an ancient Armageddon?

Wow, that's a mindtrip, Mr. V.
If that were true, it would really help explain so many mysteries around the entire planet.

I believe the show said that the time-period was 26,000 years, right? How many times could this cycle have possibly happened on Earth?

Assuming that it's possible for small groups of people to survive the end of the cycle, how many times could they have managed to repopulate the Earth?

Or, assuming the "Armageddon" Event completely wipes out all life on the planet. How many times could life have re-started (when the conditions were right) and re-evolved into an intelligent species?

[hobobone]

Damn, that's too bad.

I'll check out The Pyramid Code though, it sounds interesting enough to watch. Thanks for letting us know about it.

I've always been under the belief that our ancient ancestors were far more advanced than "we" think they were, probably more advanced than we currently are - Just, like you said, in a different way. I don't think they had electronics and all that like we do, they had something less complex.

This is a good discussion for it's own thread, don't you think?



Wow, that's a mindtrip, Mr. V.
If that were true, it would really help explain so many mysteries around the entire planet.

I believe the show said that the time-period was 26,000 years, right? How many times could this cycle have possibly happened on Earth?

Assuming that it's possible for small groups of people to survive the end of the cycle, how many times could they have managed to repopulate the Earth?

Or, assuming the "Armageddon" Event completely wipes out all life on the planet. How many times could life have re-started (when the conditions were right) and re-evolved into an intelligent species?

Yes it is a discussion for a separate thread, and what a deep discussion this is..It destroys a lot of conventional religious ideology...

[Ningishiddza]

That's a good find by Anarch. I watched all of them last night, well, early in the morning actually. They were nicely done.

However, their conclusions were all wrong.

Magnetic pole reversal was a non-event. As the documentary correctly states, there are more than 100 known reversals. I've seen the physical evidence of magnetic pole reversal since one of the professors I had classes with is the one who discovered it.

There have been 6 such reversals since the Australopithecus, and humans are still here.

For the 100 or so known recorded magnetic pole reversals, there are no extinction events. There isn't a single mammal, reptile, amphibian, bird, fish, insect, plant or anything else that has gone extinct because of it.

Having said that, I think it would be daft to say that it wouldn't be an issue, since it is unknown how such a magnetic pole reversal would affect our electronic devices, although I'm sure we can theorize. I would expect at the very least, some minor havoc.

Still, magnetic pole reversals occur on average about every 750,000 years or so. We are definitely due for one, but there is no correlation between the Precession of the Equinox and magnetic pole reversals.

Another thing I take issue with is their constellations.

Pindgree and many others have concluded that the Zodiac was founded in the Age of Gemini. That would be roughly 32,000 BCE or so.

The Shumerians claim the Deluge occurred during the Age of Leo, roughly 10,000 - 8,000 BCE. When we look at the settlement of Jericho, we see the Crab conspicuous in frescoes painted on the walls of homes there, and that corresponds astronomically to the Age of Cancer 8,000 - 6,000 BCE with the founding of Jericho as a trading outpost roughly 7,500 - 7,000 BCE.

The second Age of Gemini would be roughly 6,000 - 4,000 BCE. Here we see in prominent motifs, bas reliefs, paintings, sculptures and the like the Twins fighting the Bull. The Age of Taurus then is 4,000 -2,000 BCE and I'm aware most of you know of the motifs of the Bull fighting the Ram, leading to the Age of Aries, about 2,000 - 0 BCE and then of course the Age of Pisces from 2,000 BCE to the present.

Scorpio was always a scorpion. That much should be obvious by the many graphic depictions of the constellation as a scorpion since its inception. Aquarius which is erroneously called the "Water- Bearer" was originally a winged being and whatever it was holding was not a water jug.

In the Zodiac, Leo and Aquarius are at opposing points, so merging the two and having a winged-lion makes sense there.

Those four stars mentioned have nothing to do with angels. The Shumerian word is "Watcher." Aldebaran was the Watcher of the East, Fomalhaut as Watcher of the South, Regulus as Watcher of the North and Antares is Watcher of the West.

The documentary claims the Sphinx was built at the same time as the Pyramids, but the Shumerians already told you that.

After the Deluge, all of the facilities of the Anunnaki were destroyed, so they had to build new facilities. Ningishiddza built the Pyramids as part of those facilities, and to commemorate that, his likeness was placed on the Sphinx. Since the current image is grotesquely disproportionate to the size of the body, it is likely someone altered the original image.

You can imagine entering Earth's atmosphere in your spacecraft over the Pacific Ocean, then using the Nazca Plain to line up your approach to the spaceport. You continue moving on that line then use the Pyramids to line up for the final approach and land at the facility in the Sinai, which was later destroyed to prevent Marduk from gaining control of it according the Akkadians.

The Great Pyramid was originally covered with an outer-casing of White Tura Limestone. We know that because the Muslims admit stripping the White Tura Limestone off of the Great Pyramid to use as building material, including building material for the Dome of the Rock.

The albedo, or reflectivity of White Tura Limestone under a full Moon would allow the Gizeh Plateau to be seen from far over the horizon and from space or while airborne with clear visibility from a few hundred miles. A professional peer-reviewed journal on optimetrics did a study of it and claimed it would generate almost enough foot-candles to be the equivalent of civil dusk.

In the first video, they had a PhD in optimetrics and I though they were going to mention that, but they didn't (and he never reappears in the video).

The fact that all of those cities are in a Great Circle with Magnetic North isn't strange to me. If you're using a compass, then Magnetic North is easy to find, but I don't think it has anything to do with the Magnetic Poles changing orientation.

To know that, you would have to be on Earth at the time the Magnetic Poles inverted, and you would need to be in possession of something that indicated the poles had reversed.

Otherwise, the only way to know would be to mine iron ore and collect iron ore samples from before 750,000 years ago and after that and then you would have to note that the alignment of the crystal lattice structure is different in both samples.


One thing that came to mind regarding the time frames mentioned was man power logistics. The Egyptians had available to them millions of slaves from near and afar.

Not in 2,500 BCE they didn't.

If they Egyptians could manage to round up 500,000 people that would have been a miracle. I'm highly skilled in logistics (and management) and there's no possible way more than 100,000 people could ever be involved. From Economics, we would use the terms "Diminishing Returns" and "Economy of Scale."

We have computers, and vehicles and a tremendous amount of experience and knowledge to draw upon. To support a platoon of troops in the field requires a certain number of people, or a certain number of people and vehicles (I'm considering infantry versus motorized or mechanized infantry).

To support a company, we need more people, and to support a battalion, a brigade, a division, a corps or any army requires an ever increasing number of people for logistical support.

In a US heavy division now, it requires 3,000 troops to support 12,000 troops in the field, but that belies the fact that there are many support troops that are not part of DIVLOG, but which provide support at the company, battalion and brigade levels.

In reality, it takes about 5,000 troops to support 10,000 troops, or a ratio of 1:2.

That support includes providing food, medical, administrative, supply, fuel and maintenance services.

In ancient times, how many people are needed to feed 1 person? To bring water to 1 person? To bring supplies to 1 person?

The Egyptians would have need 500,000 people just to support 100,000 people.

I think the documentary failed when it stated that 2-1/2 minutes would be needed for each stone in the pyramid to complete it within the time-span of Khufu's reign.

It should have been stated that the Egyptians would have to cut, transport, dress, shape, fit and place every stone in 2-1/2 minutes, and that of course is a physical impossibility, even in modern times.


These quarries are equipped with the latest machineries and wellqualified and experienced staff, with production capacity up to 10 million Tons/Year.

That's what you find on a google search.

The mass of the Great Pyramid is estimated at 5.9 Million tons (and some believe that is the mass of the Earth if you use a 10 multiplier).

There's no possible way the Egyptians under Khufu quarried 5.9 Million tons of rock in 20 years. People have attempted to quarry limestone and granite using what were believed to be ancient Egyptian methods and they all failed.


I know...

A celestial clock.

Thats pretty freaking intense

You have to understand that it is clear that the Shumerians and others knew and understood the phenomenon of the Precession of the Equinoxes.

For "academia" to admit that is to admit defeat, because it means that ancient peoples knew the Sun was the center of the Solar System and that the Earth was round and not flat.

And that is contrary to what academia preaches.

I wish they had gone into more detail about the Dogon people.


not a lousy tomb.

People who preach that need to be taken out and shot.

There isn't a single shred of evidence that any pyramid was ever used as tomb; that any pharaoh was ever buried in a pyramid or that a pharaoh even lied in state briefly in a pyramid before being removed and entombed elsewhere.

The only possible way to prove that theory would be to find a buried pyramid and it would have to contain the body of a previously unknown pharaoh.

A lot of this nonsense comes from the goddam liar Colonel Howard-Vyse. He claimed he found the partial remains of Men-Ka-Ra and the partial remains of the sarcophagus of Men-Ka-Ra in the 3rd Pyramid. He simply whipped up a batch of red ochre paint and painted the forged cartouche of Men-Ka-Ra onto the mummy and the sarcophagus. He didn't even get the name right.

The British Museum finally sent those out for dating in the early 1960s and it was discovered that the sarcophagus is from the Saitic Period and the mummy was an intrusive burial placed there during the early Christian period.


I've always been under the belief that our ancient ancestors were far more advanced than "we" think they were, probably more advanced than we currently are - Just, like you said, in a different way. I don't think they had electronics and all that like we do, they had something less complex.

As I have repeatedly said, once you examine all of the evidence, you are forced to accept one of two possible conclusions:

1) Humans were advanced to a point equivalent to modern man complete with space flight, air flight and communications and other things; or

2) There were extra-terrestrials on Earth (who were obviously capable of space flight and such).


I believe the show said that the time-period was 26,000 years, right?

We don't know.

26,000 years is a rough approximation.

I have to check my documents, but either those four stars are receding from (or moving toward) Earth, which makes their positions fixed or they all have the same movement rate in the same direction, which makes their positions fixed.

All I know for certain is that Antares has always been in opposition to Aldebaran since man first started looking at stars.

If you pick one of those four stars as a starting point, then what you would notice is that every 72 years the Earth "retards" 1°.

There are 360° in a circle and in the Zodiac, and there are 12 constellations in the primary Zodiac and each is given 30° of celestial arc.

72 * 30° = 2,160 years.

So every 2,160 years a new "Age" is born. We move from Gemini to Taurus to Aries to Pisces to Aquarius to Capricorn and so on.

The Earth's motion is perturbed by planetary alignments, asteroids, comets, massive 8.0 - 9.0 earthquakes and who knows what else, so this will vary slightly over time. I would say 2,160 years +/- 3 years is what it really is.

Also the position of the stars in the original constellations has changed over time so the boundaries of the constellations have changed, and we're not really sure how the Ancients fixed the boundaries of the constellations, so at this point, it's really hard to pin-point "when" a new "Age" arises.

Since there are 12 constellations, then:

12 * 2,160 = 25,920 years.

The 5 Ages that Meso-America has given is slightly different than that. Each of the 5 Calendar Rounds varies from about 5,100 years to almost 5,500 years but the sum total of all 5 Ages is 25,625 years (if I remember correctly).

Again, the Earth's motion is perturbed, and I when I say "motion" I mean Earth's orbital speed around the Sun increases and decreases due to planetary alignments etc.

The Earth's axial rotation also plays a role in this, and as we've discovered from massive earthquakes, the Earth's axial rotation can be increased or retarded from 23 hours 59 minutes and 38 seconds plus or minus a few seconds here and there.

A few seconds or even milliseconds doesn't sound like much, but it's the time span here. The only way we can truly know is to pick a date when we knew the Earth had a certain alignment and then wait 25,000 years or so to see when Earth returns to that point.


How many times could this cycle have possibly happened on Earth?

Since the existence of Australopithecus, about 231 times.


Assuming that it's possible for small groups of people to survive the end of the cycle, how many times could they have managed to repopulate the Earth?

There are no known disasters or extinctions associated with the Precession of the Equinox.

The most recent wide-scale massive disaster was the Deluge.

Of the 140+ Deluge accounts, all of them except claim it lasted 3-5 days. Those Deluge accounts originating in the Americas and in northeastern Siberia associate it with an asteroid, claiming the asteroid caused the Deluge. Logically, those accounts originating in Africa, Europe and Asia do not mention an asteroid, and they wouldn't, since they cannot see something on the other side of the Earth.

The Shumerians claim the Deluge occurred during the Age of Leo, but if you go back 25,000 years, there is no disaster, nor is there one 25,000 years before that. Even the Toba-Event would not have fallen at the end of a cycle, unless you pick Aquarius, Scorpio or Taurus as the start of the cycle in lieu of Leo.

We do know that from about 25,000 BCE - 23,000 BCE that climatic conditions on Earth got worse. And they continued to worsen almost literally by the hour.

The Deluge was actually a blessing, because without the Deluge, none of us would be here. The Earth would still be in an Ice Age and I believe the inter-glacial period would start in about 1,000 to 3,000 years from now, if not already.

That's the other problem I have with the Global Warming jack-asses. They automatically assume that the end of the Ice Age was a natural event, when clearly it was not. It was a coerced forced event caused by the impact of an asteroid which created a giant tsunami that swept over the Earth back and forth for 3-5 days and destroyed the western ice sheet in Antarctica, resulting in a dramatic sea level rise that destroyed a number of civilizations and buried others under the sea permanently, such as the recently discovered underwater city off the coast of India, the underwater city off the coast of Japan shown in the video documentary and the partially submerged city in Roratonga (a city large enough to hold 1 Million people and made of limestone and granite blocks).

The likelihood that Atlantis was a real place is now even more likely. I will look at the line running from Nazca to Gizeh and I'd bet Atlantis was a city located on that line in the Atlantic Ocean and it was buried when the sea levels rose.

And the sea levels rose an estimated 600 to 800 feet.


Or, assuming the "Armageddon" Event completely wipes out all life on the planet. How many times could life have re-started (when the conditions were right) and re-evolved into an intelligent species?

It would be very rare for an Armageddon even to wipe off all life on Earth.

One thing the documentary got wrong is the Calendar Rounds. Yes, as I pointed out there are 5 Ages and a Calendar Round is associated with each Age but those were localized phenomena or events.

For example, the Calendar Round known in different Meso-American cultures as the Age of Jaguar, the Age of the Red-Haired Giants, or the Age of Giants ended in war.

The Calendar Round associated with the Age of Wind, Age of White-Haired Giants, Age of Bearded Giants is unknown. I don't know what "Wind" means and I don't know what happened at the end of that Age, but again those Ages are only 5,000 years and not the full 25,000+ year Precession of the Equinoxes.

I'm going to watch the documentary again, because overall I liked it, but the conclusion really sucked. I wish they had gotten into Pyramid Inches (a Pyramid Inch is 1.01 US/British inches).

There are no extinction events or disasters associated with either Magnetic Pole reversal or the Precession of the Equinoxes.

However, it is possible Magnetic Pole shift could result in an "Armageddon" but only because it interferes with the technology which a small number of people are dependent on.

[hobobone]

That was a GREAT analysis Ning!....When i watch these programs i try to absorb as much of the good info as i can, you added to that immensely.. I draw conclusions from multiple opinions, and i will be logging yours in the compilation of opinions.... I also would have liked to have seen more mathematical theory, which does add weight to the series..

Doesnt this knowledge completely blow out of the water the traditional religious ideology?...Doesnt it throw the bible and the beginning of creation a curve ball?...

Do you believe others know more but are keeping it from us, so we can be kept in control of by our government?....Ya i know here comes that conspiracy idiot again!..LOL!

[theejames]

You can imagine entering Earth's atmosphere in your spacecraft over the Pacific Ocean, then using the Nazca Plain to line up your approach to the spaceport. You continue moving on that line then use the Pyramids to line up for the final approach and land at the facility in the Sinai

Hi Ning,

would these have been visble I wonder?
http://www.livescience.com/16046-nazca-lines-wheels-google-earth.html

In the subject of building materials being re-used, where did most of the spaceport go? Did material 'reallocation' leave just the Ziggurat at Ur or was that it? Are there any images or drawings to envisage what it may have looked like back then?

[Ningishiddza]

Doesnt this knowledge completely blow out of the water the traditional religious ideology?...Doesnt it throw the bible and the beginning of creation a curve ball?...

Not really. The first dozen or so chapters of Genesis are just abridged versions of Shumerian cosmogony. It's sort of like the Reader's Digest condensed version.

It would destroy the fundamentalist belief that Earth is 6,000 years old. The only way the Sphinx could be aligned with Regulus is between 10,000 BCE - 8,000 BCE (which means the Earth has to be more than 6,000 years old).

The Sphinx will re-align to Regulus sometime between 34,000 CE and 36,000 CE.

Right now it is approaching Formalhaut which is at 3° Pisces 56' (trying to do quick math).


Do you believe others know more but are keeping it from us, so we can be kept in control of by our government?

I don't know why they would. The paradigm in academia is that man constantly gets better, improves, learns more etc, etc, and that's all beautiful, because it gives Hope.

If you accept the alternative, which is the Truth, then there is no Hope. All that we are will eventually be destroyed in some cataclysmic event, and we'll have to start over.

A lot of these academic idiots make money off of the lunacy they proffer, and many are Grecophiles. Pindgree and many others have proven that all that the Greeks knew in math they learned from the Chaldeans (Neo-Babylonians). Pythagoras didn't discover anything, he re-discovered it.


Hi Ning,

would these have been visble I wonder?

Yes, the lines were originally filled with chalk. From the air the would have been readily visible and at great distances. That's one of the things the documentary did NOT point out. If the Nazca lines are trails for ceremonial processions, why would you fill the lines with chalk?

The chalked line would have contrasted greatly with the earth, making the figures stand-out that much more. Why would you do that if you can't see them from the ground or surrounding hill-sides?

That was done so they could have been seen from the air, but then who's flying around 2,000 years ago? There's a book from the 1970s that has photos that were re-touched to show how they'd appear with the chalk. Most of the chalk has either blown away/eroded, has been covered, and some of it was removed by the local natives in the 1800's for their use.


In the subject of building materials being re-used, where did most of the spaceport go?

I don't know. I don't know exactly where it was in the Sinai. I only know that Baalbek and Jerusalem were part of those facilities. Both places are characterized by trilothons, huge blocks of granite that weigh extraordinary amounts. Most people are familiar with those at Baalbek, but Jerusalem has them too under the Temple Mount.

There is no modern machinery that could have moved those trilothons.

You want to clear a room of archaeologists, mention the trilothons. No one wants to touch that. If modern machinery cannot move them, then there's no way people did. Those things would crush wood rollers flat, unless maybe if they were using California Redwoods, but that's a bit of a stretch and they'd probably crush those flat as well. The trilothons at the Temple Mount are about the same dimension, same material, so they weigh about the same, not that it matters, because there is no modern machinery that could move those.

They were obviously used to provide a support base for something heavy.

I'm not sure what we'd be talking about here. If it was something like a space shuttle facility, say Edwards Air Force Base, then you're talking about a runway and a few buildings (including a hangar). There really isn't much to it. My best guess would be the northern Sinai just east and north of Gizeh. There's a lot of ruins around there.

Culturally, we know the "gods" disappeared from every culture on Earth around 900 BCE and never again physically interacted with man. It's possible they dismantled a great deal of it when they left.

The destruction of the space port would have been about 4,000 years ago, sometime between 2,100 BCE and 1,900 BCE, and at the exact same time Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities of the Plain were destroyed (the Hebrew text omits mention of the cities of the Plain that were destroyed but the Akkadian texts do not).


Did material 'reallocation' leave just the Ziggurat at Ur or was that it? Are there any images or drawings to envisage what it may have looked like back then?

Sure there are. The theory proffered by academia is that the ziggurats were temples, but there is no evidence of that. If you look at the floor plans for the ziggurats, they're exactly like administrative office buildings, the only difference is that some of the staff lived on site, so there's something akin to bed-rooms/living quarters in the ziggurats.

The ziggurats are all oriented on the same directional axis as the pyramids. They documentary mentions that they continually built on the same spots, but doesn't go into any detail on that.

Previously, academia refused to dig beyond the "forbidden zone." They'd only dig to a point and then stop and adamantly refused to go further. That's why Jericho is such a break-through.

From Jericho, we know that for 9,000 years it was built, occupied, abandoned, re-occupied, destroyed, rebuilt, occupied, destroyed, rebuilt, occupied abandoned re-occupied, abandoned, re-occupied, destroyed, rebuilt and re-occupied over and over and over. Places like Ur, Nippur, Lagash etc it's the same story, but no one wants to dig there beyond the "forbidden zone."

If they excavate Jerusalem, they'd find the same thing. Jerusalem is 11,000 years old just like the Pyramids and the Sphinx, and it was occupied up until the destruction of Sodom, Gomorrah and the cities on the Plain. That's why Jericho exists. It was built as a trading post/weigh over station for those traveling between Gizeh and Jerusalem.

After the destruction, Jerusalem was abandoned and remained abandoned until the Hebrews came. Jericho was abandoned at the same time, but then re-settled later, abandoned, re-settled, destroyed, re-built, re-settled and then abandoned at the time of the Exodus. That's one of the things that contradicts Exodus, is that Jericho was abandoned at the time the Hebrews claimed they destroyed it.

Baalbek was not abandoned. It continued to function as whatever it was up until 900 BCE.

[hobobone]

[QUOTE=Ningishiddza;464049]Not really. The first dozen or so chapters of Genesis are just abridged versions of Shumerian cosmogony. It's sort of like the Reader's Digest condensed version.

It would destroy the fundamentalist belief that Earth is 6,000 years old. The only way the Sphinx could be aligned with Regulus is between 10,000 BCE - 8,000 BCE (which means the Earth has to be more than 6,000 years old).

The Sphinx will re-align to Regulus sometime between 34,000 CE and 36,000 CE.

Right now it is approaching Formalhaut which is at 3° Pisces 56' (trying to do quick math).



I don't know why they would. The paradigm in academia is that man constantly gets better, improves, learns more etc, etc, and that's all beautiful, because it gives Hope.

If you accept the alternative, which is the Truth, then there is no Hope. All that we are will eventually be destroyed in some cataclysmic event, and we'll have to start over.

(To Clarify, End of Nings post...Beginning of mine)

Notice you dont see history books being rewrote to include such info..Thats kind of what i mean by keeping the info held back to a degree from the public..No hope can induce a society where its acceptable do almost anything, and also create mass depression< Oh Crap!...thats Us... So obviously now the info is getting out...However when i went to school , you were looked at like a crackpot if you believed anything else but the bible..

I believe the Sumerian text is the oldest documented text. Their solar system understanding is impressive.. It seems every time a group of people start to discuss the beginning of time and creation, the Sumerian text comes up and the next thing that comes up is the Planet X discussion..Im leaving a link here..My questions are: How accurate, or legitimate is Zacharia Sitchin ?...How possible is Planet X?...Is this nothing more than crackpot lunacy or are their shades of truth in this type of thinking?


Since very early in life my concept of God has been different from many of those around me. My concept is that God is not a being...but rather a power.. God is the sum of all things..Every element, every atom, every subatomic particle is God... God can be omnipresent because in fact God is everywhere.. God is beginning and end, Alpha and Omega, because God is a part of all time matter and space. You can take this one step forward with "string theory" and say that God is the power that holds all things together..


Ancient landing strips would tell me that aliens or another race of people landed on our planet..While the men at the time perceived them to be "Gods" or "God', they really couldnt have been God. Even if you were to try to make God a being, it would have no reason to fly a space craft to your planet. God would just be there instantly as it is everywhere at once(omnipresent). You could call them Angels.. But if God was a being why would it need Angels to communicate...Also you would think Angels would not need space craft, drawing from Gods knowledge or the power that is God, they should be able to transcend time and space without a craft.

Is it possible that, we are in fact a proving grounds for alien technology, for say the building of the perfect planet..Because Aliens are not the power of God, they to are only able to harness so much of the God power, making them capable of mistake. Those of us here who would be considered good enough, would be sent to another planet after death..

Here is the link i spoke of earlier...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr06xrpWd6o&feature=player_detailpage

[Waymarker]

I haven't got time to sit through 7 vids, i wish somebody would briefly say what they're about.
Anyway, if the egyptians were so shit-hot advanced, why didn't they have the brains (or advanced weaponry) to keep their civilisation from ultimately collapsing?
As for the pyramids, they're surely just useless burial chambers, it's not as if they actually do anything..:)

[Anarch]

I haven't got time to sit through 7 vids, i wish somebody would briefly say what they're about.
Anyway, if the egyptians were so shit-hot advanced, why didn't they have the brains (or advanced weaponry) to keep their civilisation from ultimately collapsing?
As for the pyramids, they're surely just useless burial chambers, it's not as if they actually do anything..:)

^Right here^

This is what I was talking about in Blue rays Really really thread...

Useless fucking trollers significantly lower the intellectual bar. The idiot above me has not even taking the time to watch one video yet he feels inclined to to judge it and the topics it raises without even knowing what topics it raises. Whats more he asks for people to explain what is on those vids and we have spoken on nothing but what is on those vids for this whole thread.

Quick posting has nothing on the ability of stupidity to infect others and discourage the intellectual from even bothering....lest they to get infected.

[Ningishiddza]

Anyway, if the egyptians were so shit-hot advanced, why didn't they have the brains (or advanced weaponry) to keep their civilisation from ultimately collapsing?

To which "Egyptian" civilization are you referring? There are more than a half-dozen different "Egyptians."


As for the pyramids, they're surely just useless burial chambers, it's not as if they actually do anything..:)

Name one pharaoh that was ever found in a pyramid.

[Waymarker]

To Waymarker- To which "Egyptian" civilization are you referring? There are more than a half-dozen different "Egyptians."
Name one pharaoh that was ever found in a pyramid.

Sorry mate, Anarch has asked me to keep out of this thread because it's his, so you'll have to find yourself another boy to give you a history lesson..;)

[Anarch]

Sorry mate, Anarch has asked me to keep out of this thread because it's his, so you'll have to find yourself another boy to give you a history lesson..;)

Well considering how you just failed you might as well feel free to answer him sense hitting him up in PM or visitor message was not an option.

I was just kinda dumbstruck that you felt inclined to ask for explanation with out watching the vids when that was all that was talked about was our thoughts on the vids.

I'm still dumbstruck... you're still a tool.

But fuck it... since you already felt agged to reply once you may as well address ning proper. :crtmn:

[Ningishiddza]

Sorry mate, Anarch has asked me to keep out of this thread because it's his, so you'll have to find yourself another boy to give you a history lesson..;)


Name one pharaoh that was ever found in a pyramid.

That was a trick question.

No pharaoh has been found in a pyramid. Not one, ever. Many are buried in the Valley of the Kings, and many others elsewhere, but none were ever buried in a pyramid.

The "pyramids as tombs" theory was dead before it was even hatched. It's a ridiculous theory not supported by any evidence and academics and others that subscribe to it are nutters.

[Waymarker]

..since you already felt agged to reply once you may as well address ning proper. :crtmn:

I think he was just joshing, everybody knows the Egy empire timeline covered many assorted dynasties and kingdoms etc. And of the 100+ pyramids in Egy, most but not all are tombs of pharoahs.
Anyway i've lost my train of thought, I see my post (between posts #24 and #25) has been deleted by the mods as "spam", so i don't know where i am, and like I said, i regrettably haven't got time to sit through the 7 vids to find out what this thread is about anyway.
PS- I'm a player of the PC game "Egypt: Engineering of an Empire", and am an admin/mod at a military history website, so i bin around..;)

[Ningishiddza]

I don't get the meter part.

I understand that a circle with a diameter of 1, and it doesn't matter which units of measurement are used, will always yield a circumference of Pi (3.14159...).

I'm not clear where the 6 came from, or why they would divide a circle into 6 parts. I can understand dividing a circle into 4 parts, or 2 parts or even 8 parts or 12 parts, but not 6 parts.

The only thing I can think of is 60°.

An equilateral triangle has three 60° angles. 6 equilateral triangles formed together would be an hexagon.

The only other thing I can think of is that 60 is the rank of An (whose other names were Anu -- Akkadian; On -- Egyptian; Andagada -- Gaelic etc).

[Sayev]

I knew you had it in you Anarch. :) I will be checking out the remaining videos shortly. I'm not sure if this is eluded to in the remaining videos but there is a theory about the manufacturing of gold from ordinary metals and the pyramids. Especially due to how the particular angles and depths the tunnels were designed.
I'm not sure how much time you have spent pondering this but I have my own guesses about this and unfortunately there isn't a happy outcome. I am intentionally leaving this part out because I don't want to ruffle any feathers but there is a connection/the big picture.
I'm all for the possibility that our age of the human race is by far the least "advanced" so to speak. I have spent many years wondering why we were so oblivious to the obvious and have recently felt that as a whole (and I really hate generalizing) we just don't understand much of anything.
Okay on to the remaing vids. Thanks again

[Ningishiddza]

I'm not sure if this is eluded to in the remaining videos but there is a theory about the manufacturing of gold from ordinary metals and the pyramids.

That's a junk theory. It is true that (Tiahuanco?) with the Pyramid of the Sun and Pyramid of the Moon might have been used as ore processing centers for gold ore and tin ore.


I'm all for the possibility that our age of the human race is by far the least "advanced" so to speak.

That is one of two possible conclusions. Either ancient humans had an advanced civilization, or extra-terrestrials were here.

There are no other possibilities. It is one or the other. I'm kind of dismissive of advanced humans, because survivors would be engaging in bragging rights.

[Vuall]

I'm kind of dismissive of advanced humans, because survivors would be engaging in bragging rights.

Unless they left the planet already.

[Ningishiddza]

Unless they left the planet already.

I don't see any evidence that they were capable of interstellar flight.

I see evidence of flight, orbital flight and intra-stellar flight, but not interstellar flight.

[Ningishiddza]

Notice you dont see history books being rewrote to include such info.

There's a lot of reasons for that, mostly because the flow of information is controlled.

The Chaldeans (Neo-Babylonians) have been known for more than a century, but you won't find any mention in high school texts. Even at university if you get more than one paragraph on the Shumerians, Akkadians, Amorites (Babylonians), Assyrians and Chaldeans, you're lucky.

Part of it is what you don't know won't hurt you, and of course you can't ask questions if you don't know.


How accurate, or legitimate is Zacharia Sitchin ?

Very accurate. I like Sitchin's writing style. He has a tongue-in-cheek sense of humor that sometimes borders on the wickedly sarcastic. I've followed up on much of his stuff. My only criticism of Sitchin is that he occasionally allows his religion to influence his conclusions (he's a Jew).


How possible is Planet X?

What I tell people is that if it doesn't come from the Journal of Ancient Near Eastern Texts, Journal of Assyriology, Journal of the Ancient Near East, etc, then it is total insanity proffered by an attention-whore.

Two of the things I disagree with Sitchin are Nibiru's apogee, which he says is the Asteroid Belt. That is illogical. Nibiru's apogee is the Sun, and that actually supports his hypothesis that they were mining gold to seed in the atmosphere.

The other thing is the Day the Earth Stood Still. Sitchin says it was a comet. That is mathematically and physically impossible. It was a large body, and I believe it was Nibiru based on the evidence (which includes much more than just that).

That would put Nibiru in a near-Earth encounter about 1394 BCE and make Nibiru's return about 2260 CE more than 150 years from now. On another thread I gave it's rough distance. Since it's orbit is highly elliptical, it would not be detectable until about 2100 and it would be in the Solar System proper about 2170-2200 with a near-Earth encounter about 2260.

As best I can tell, it comes out of the "south." I don't know exactly what that means because I don't know the frame of reference: is it Earth or the Sun? and then I don't know what they mean by "south" astronomically. Do they mean the southern constellations (ie Virgo) or do they mean the southern constellations as in the Way of Enki (ie Hydra)?

All I know is that from the Journal of the Ancient Near East, there's a description of Nibiru rising with Jupiter from below the Plane of the Ecliptic and then crossing the Plane of the Ecliptic and rising with Mars. Pluto was originally a satellite of Saturn that was ripped from orbit and came to a new eccentric orbit that is inclined to the Plane of the Ecliptic by 15° (and it's orbital path goes between Uranus and Neptune). Nirbiru is inclined by 15° to 30°. That rules out Sirius as a star system, but unfortunately not Zeta Reticuli.


...Is this nothing more than crackpot lunacy or are their shades of truth in this type of thinking?

Well, in terms of physics, yes. The Shumerians were told the Planet was cast out of its solar system during a cataclysmic event. Imagine Saturn being struck by a comet and knocked out of its orbit on a collision with Jupiter and the destruction of those two planets resulted in Earth being shifted from its orbit and sailing off into deep space.

What actually happened? No one knows. Perhaps there is a text on it that hasn't been translated yet, or hasn't been found yet.

The Planet sailed through space and then became trapped by Sun's gravitational pull and ended up as a permanent member of our Solar System.

Assuming they were as advanced as us in the late 19th Century or early 20th Century, they would have foreseen the cataclysm and could have prepared for it. I'd imagine they'd have to survive underground. Given that the Annunaki seem to be highly skilled in stone carving and metal ore mining, I'd say that's what happened.

For celestial cataclysmic events, you have a lot of warning. It could take decades or even centuries for the event to occur and then centuries more for the effects to take place. Imagine Earth spiraling away from the Sun, and you determined Earth would break free and sail away, that wouldn't happen in seconds or days or even years. That would take decades or centuries. You'd have plenty of time to prepare for it.


Is it possible that, we are in fact a proving grounds for alien technology, for say the building of the perfect planet.

That wouldn't be my first impression, no.

[hobobone]

There's a lot of reasons for that, mostly because the flow of information is controlled.

The Chaldeans (Neo-Babylonians) have been known for more than a century, but you won't find any mention in high school texts. Even at university if you get more than one paragraph on the Shumerians, Akkadians, Amorites (Babylonians), Assyrians and Chaldeans, you're lucky.

Part of it is what you don't know won't hurt you, and of course you can't ask questions if you don't know.



Very accurate. I like Sitchin's writing style. He has a tongue-in-cheek sense of humor that sometimes borders on the wickedly sarcastic. I've followed up on much of his stuff. My only criticism of Sitchin is that he occasionally allows his religion to influence his conclusions (he's a Jew).



What I tell people is that if it doesn't come from the Journal of Ancient Near Eastern Texts, Journal of Assyriology, Journal of the Ancient Near East, etc, then it is total insanity proffered by an attention-whore.

Two of the things I disagree with Sitchin are Nibiru's apogee, which he says is the Asteroid Belt. That is illogical. Nibiru's apogee is the Sun, and that actually supports his hypothesis that they were mining gold to seed in the atmosphere.

The other thing is the Day the Earth Stood Still. Sitchin says it was a comet. That is mathematically and physically impossible. It was a large body, and I believe it was Nibiru based on the evidence (which includes much more than just that).

That would put Nibiru in a near-Earth encounter about 1394 BCE and make Nibiru's return about 2260 CE more than 150 years from now. On another thread I gave it's rough distance. Since it's orbit is highly elliptical, it would not be detectable until about 2100 and it would be in the Solar System proper about 2170-2200 with a near-Earth encounter about 2260.

As best I can tell, it comes out of the "south." I don't know exactly what that means because I don't know the frame of reference: is it Earth or the Sun? and then I don't know what they mean by "south" astronomically. Do they mean the southern constellations (ie Virgo) or do they mean the southern constellations as in the Way of Enki (ie Hydra)?

All I know is that from the Journal of the Ancient Near East, there's a description of Nibiru rising with Jupiter from below the Plane of the Ecliptic and then crossing the Plane of the Ecliptic and rising with Mars. Pluto was originally a satellite of Saturn that was ripped from orbit and came to a new eccentric orbit that is inclined to the Plane of the Ecliptic by 15° (and it's orbital path goes between Uranus and Neptune). Nirbiru is inclined by 15° to 30°. That rules out Sirius as a star system, but unfortunately not Zeta Reticuli.



Well, in terms of physics, yes. The Shumerians were told the Planet was cast out of its solar system during a cataclysmic event. Imagine Saturn being struck by a comet and knocked out of its orbit on a collision with Jupiter and the destruction of those two planets resulted in Earth being shifted from its orbit and sailing off into deep space.

What actually happened? No one knows. Perhaps there is a text on it that hasn't been translated yet, or hasn't been found yet.

The Planet sailed through space and then became trapped by Sun's gravitational pull and ended up as a permanent member of our Solar System.

Assuming they were as advanced as us in the late 19th Century or early 20th Century, they would have foreseen the cataclysm and could have prepared for it. I'd imagine they'd have to survive underground. Given that the Annunaki seem to be highly skilled in stone carving and metal ore mining, I'd say that's what happened.

For celestial cataclysmic events, you have a lot of warning. It could take decades or even centuries for the event to occur and then centuries more for the effects to take place. Imagine Earth spiraling away from the Sun, and you determined Earth would break free and sail away, that wouldn't happen in seconds or days or even years. That would take decades or centuries. You'd have plenty of time to prepare for it.



That wouldn't be my first impression, no.

Thanks for answering my questions Ning....So you think that the 12th planet never slammed into earth causing the Asteroid belt?...I found that to be a stretch also, but some people argue this by saying that..."the many craters on our earth are a result of that and are time dated to that time." I however, think the craters came far before the Sumerians...


I have been reading and watching seminars that Zecharia Sitchin has wrote or spoke at...He impresses me until his religion supersedes science.. But in my humble opinion, he is the most authoritative source on Sumerian text...Why is it that there are only a handful of people who can translate Sumerian text?...It seems like that should be a priority...


While there are so many similarities between the garden of Eden in the bible and the Sumerian text.. there are also so many large differences that if the Sumerian text is correct, then the bibles version of the garden of Eden is deeply flawed and a large amount of the story is missing...This, in my opinion, makes the bible less credible.. That being said, I believe the men who wrote the bible were far less knowledgeable than the Sumerians..They did the best they could to compile years of time of which the writers of the bible did not experience themselves...so while some would say the bible is a perfect divine work..I fully disagree with that...it is nothing more than a chronology of what people seen and tried to describe..

"The alien proving ground theory" was a little bit "anecdotal"..... But im leaning extraterrestrial over early man having a high level of intelligence..If the Sumerians were as smart as Sitchin and others think they were, they had to get that intelligence from somewhere..Very few people today are forms of genius from birth, let alone an entire civilization..

While the Anunnaki could be called God by man..I still dont think they are in fact GOD...God is omnipresent, without limits...The Anunnaki had limitations....However they could explain the Giants talked about in the bible.

[Ningishiddza]

In the video clip the NASA guy says Libra. I'll accept that. I was think Virgo so I was really close (Libra is the next constellation and also a southern constellation).


Thanks for answering my questions Ning....So you think that the 12th planet never slammed into earth causing the Asteroid belt?...I found that to be a stretch also, but some people argue this by saying that..."the many craters on our earth are a result of that and are time dated to that time." I however, think the craters came far before the Sumerians...

The Shumerian texts never say that. What they say is a moon collided with Earth. According to what they were told, Nibiru had 7 moons (4 major moons and 3 smaller moons).

During one of its passages through the Solar System, one of the 7 moons collided with the moon of Neptune. It destroyed that moon and large fragments collided with Neptune knocking it on its side. The moon that caused the collision still exists. That is Triton. Triton is an outrageous anomaly in our Solar System. It is the only body in our Solar System that has a clockwise axial rotation. It is the only major body that has a clockwise orbit. There are one or two comets (that I know of) that have a clockwise rotation. Those comets either did not originate in our Solar System, or they are fragments of Nibiru's moons, or fragments of celestial bodies native to our Solar System that were put in a clockwise orbit by the force of collision or the gravity of Nibiru.

On a subsequent passage through the Solar System, one of Nibiru's moons collided with Uranus knocking it on its side.

And then on another passage through the Solar System, one of Nibiru's moons collided with Earth, knocking Earth out of its orbit.

NASA had planned to send a probe to study the Asteroid Belt, but their funding has been cut so I don't know what they status of their planned projects are.

If you could get a probe to the Asteroid Belt, you could prove or disprove the theory. Any asteroids that have a clockwise axial rotation proves the Shumerian account. Any asteroids that are "pieces of Earth" ie they have Earth's signature proves the Shumerian account. Any asteroids that do not conform to our Solar System would prove the Shumerian account.

It was theorized that a planet occupied the Asteroid Belt and exploded, but that theory fails because the mass of the Asteroid Belt would not equal planet.

A better alternative theory is that there was a Planet it the Asteroid Belt, that Planet was collisioned by a small moon and shunted to a new orbit, and the small moon and collision remnants formed the Asteroid Belt.

According to Cray's supercomputer Big Red, if Earth was 35% larger in mass, then the Earth and Moon could have coalesced together and the problem of angular momentum is solved and then we have a theory for the Origin of the Moon that actually works.

Earth originally had no continents or land masses. The collision point is the Pacific Ocean Basin. When Nibiru's moon collided there, part of the Earth was blasted into space, part of Nibiru's moon was blasted into spaces (and those pieces formed the Asteroid Belt) part of Nibiru's moon was absorbed by Earth.

The energy from that collision traveled through Earth and caused rock on the opposite of Earth to become partly molten and it "jumped out." That became the Super Continent Pangea. That would be the antipodal point as explained here:


One giant impact crater on Mercury was particularly interesting. Directly opposite the impact point, on the other side of the planet (called the "antipodal point") was a region of highly disrupted terrain with no evidence of an impact. The shock waves from the impact on one side of Mercury had traveled around the surface and met simultaneously at the antipodal point to create the chaotic features. Similar features have since been detected on several moons of the giant planets.

Astronomer Duncan Steel has suggested that the same occurred with the Chicxulub impact and that the shock waves caused the Deccan Traps.
Taking into account millions of years of continental drift, this region would
have been at the antipodal point to Mexico at the time of the impact.
Although the eruption may have contributed to the suffering, it now seems more likely that the Deccan Traps were just a consequence of the
catastrophic initial event, the Chicxulub impact.

So if you can imagine a small moon at about a 15° to 30° angle striking the central/south Pacific area and creating the Pacific Basin, uplifting Pangea at the antipodal point, and then driving Earth out of its orbit to a new orbit, then you can also see why Earth has an axial tilt that rocks back and forth between 21.5° and 24° and why the Earth bobs up and down across the Sun's equator going about 5.5° N then dipping to 5.5° S as it orbits the Sun (sort of like one of those Tumble Bug rides).

Ever since then, Earth has been trying to "heal" the wound. The North and South American Plates are being pushed to meet the Eurasian and African Plates somewhere in the middle of the Pacific Ocean Basin.

As that happens, the sea level on Earth will eventually rise as the Pacific Basin shrinks and when the wound is "healed" billions of years from now, there won't be any land on Earth. Earth will be completely water covered just like Tiamat the Watery Monster was 4.5 Billion ago when this all started.


TWhy is it that there are only a handful of people who can translate Sumerian text?

There's only a handful of schools world-wide to learn it. University of Chicago is one. Oxford is another. There are 30,000 Akkadian cuneiform texts at the British Library at St Pancras/King's Cross in London. There's a power struggle over who gets to translate them and that power struggle has been going on for decades.


...It seems like that should be a priority...

A lot of things should be a priority, but there not. We should have been on Mars 30 years ago. You go to the Moon. The next logical step is to go to Mars, yet it seems everyone has done everything in their power to ensure there are no manned Mars missions.

Kind of makes you wonder.


While there are so many similarities between the garden of Eden in the bible and the Sumerian text.

That's because everything the Hebrews know they copied not from the Shumerians, but from the Akkadians (the Shumerians and their language are long gone -- ancient -- by the time the Hebrews amount to anything).


... there are also so many large differences that if the Sumerian text is correct, then the bibles version of the garden of Eden is deeply flawed and a large amount of the story is missing.

There are no real large differences. The Hebrews omitted much, probably because they didn't understand it, and didn't think it was important.

The other reason is that many words were incorrectly translated, often intentionally.

For example, nephilim was always translated as "giants" even though the word has only two possible meanings: "those who from heaven came to Earth" or "those who from heaven were cast down to Earth." Some people can't handle the truth and thought it would be easier to cover up the truth.

The same with shem. Shem is incorrectly translated as "renown" or "fame." Shem is a rocket or missile.

Here we have several issues, christian parochialism, plus ethnocentrism, plus ignorance.

We know Greece was the first civilization, therefore rockets/missiles could not have existed prior to that. The story makes no sense as incorrectly translated. Why would "making a name" for yourself or achieving "renown" so greatly disturb the deity and his colleagues to the point that they think it is in everyone's best interest to "confuse their language."

You can make a name for yourself or achieve renown as a king, as a warrior, as a merchant and as many other things, but trying to make a name for yourself by building a tower strikes fear in the deities.

That makes no sense, unless shem is a rocket/missile launch pad.

Why is the US upset with Iran, because Iran is trying to make a name for itself? No, because Iran is building rockets/missiles.


"The alien proving ground theory" was a little bit "anecdotal"

It's silly if you ask me. The reason anyone invents anything is because there's a need for something. According the Shumerians, the Annunaki invented humans because they needed someone to mine gold for them.


While the Anunnaki could be called God by man..I still dont think they are in fact GOD.

The Shumerians thought they were mortal beings not from Earth. Like I said, academicians swear that ziggurats are "temples" even though they don't have a single shred of evidence to support that, and that's sad given the number of ziggurats there are.

It's the same as "pyramids are tombs." All those pyramids and not one single pharaoh was ever buried in one.

By comparison, that would be like every single cemetery in the US being totally devoid of bodies, and everyone is buried in fantastically adorned mausoleums miles and miles and miles and miles from the nearest cemetery.

[hobobone]

In the video clip the NASA guy says Libra. I'll accept that. I was think Virgo so I was really close (Libra is the next constellation and also a southern constellation).



The Shumerian texts never say that. What they say is a moon collided with Earth. According to what they were told, Nibiru had 7 moons (4 major moons and 3 smaller moons).

During one of its passages through the Solar System, one of the 7 moons collided with the moon of Neptune. It destroyed that moon and large fragments collided with Neptune knocking it on its side. The moon that caused the collision still exists. That is Triton. Triton is an outrageous anomaly in our Solar System. It is the only body in our Solar System that has a clockwise axial rotation. It is the only major body that has a clockwise orbit. There are one or two comets (that I know of) that have a clockwise rotation. Those comets either did not originate in our Solar System, or they are fragments of Nibiru's moons, or fragments of celestial bodies native to our Solar System that were put in a clockwise orbit by the force of collision or the gravity of Nibiru.

On a subsequent passage through the Solar System, one of Nibiru's moons collided with Uranus knocking it on its side.

And then on another passage through the Solar System, one of Nibiru's moons collided with Earth, knocking Earth out of its orbit.

NASA had planned to send a probe to study the Asteroid Belt, but their funding has been cut so I don't know what they status of their planned projects are.

If you could get a probe to the Asteroid Belt, you could prove or disprove the theory. Any asteroids that have a clockwise axial rotation proves the Shumerian account. Any asteroids that are "pieces of Earth" ie they have Earth's signature proves the Shumerian account. Any asteroids that do not conform to our Solar System would prove the Shumerian account.

It was theorized that a planet occupied the Asteroid Belt and exploded, but that theory fails because the mass of the Asteroid Belt would not equal planet.

A better alternative theory is that there was a Planet it the Asteroid Belt, that Planet was collisioned by a small moon and shunted to a new orbit, and the small moon and collision remnants formed the Asteroid Belt.

According to Cray's supercomputer Big Red, if Earth was 35% larger in mass, then the Earth and Moon could have coalesced together and the problem of angular momentum is solved and then we have a theory for the Origin of the Moon that actually works.

Earth originally had no continents or land masses. The collision point is the Pacific Ocean Basin. When Nibiru's moon collided there, part of the Earth was blasted into space, part of Nibiru's moon was blasted into spaces (and those pieces formed the Asteroid Belt) part of Nibiru's moon was absorbed by Earth.

The energy from that collision traveled through Earth and caused rock on the opposite of Earth to become partly molten and it "jumped out." That became the Super Continent Pangea. That would be the antipodal point as explained here:



So if you can imagine a small moon at about a 15° to 30° angle striking the central/south Pacific area and creating the Pacific Basin, uplifting Pangea at the antipodal point, and then driving Earth out of its orbit to a new orbit, then you can also see why Earth has an axial tilt that rocks back and forth between 21.5° and 24° and why the Earth bobs up and down across the Sun's equator going about 5.5° N then dipping to 5.5° S as it orbits the Sun (sort of like one of those Tumble Bug rides).

Ever since then, Earth has been trying to "heal" the wound. The North and South American Plates are being pushed to meet the Eurasian and African Plates somewhere in the middle of the Pacific Ocean Basin.

As that happens, the sea level on Earth will eventually rise as the Pacific Basin shrinks and when the wound is "healed" billions of years from now, there won't be any land on Earth. Earth will be completely water covered just like Tiamat the Watery Monster was 4.5 Billion ago when this all started.



There's only a handful of schools world-wide to learn it. University of Chicago is one. Oxford is another. There are 30,000 Akkadian cuneiform texts at the British Library at St Pancras/King's Cross in London. There's a power struggle over who gets to translate them and that power struggle has been going on for decades.



A lot of things should be a priority, but there not. We should have been on Mars 30 years ago. You go to the Moon. The next logical step is to go to Mars, yet it seems everyone has done everything in their power to ensure there are no manned Mars missions.

Kind of makes you wonder.



That's because everything the Hebrews know they copied not from the Shumerians, but from the Akkadians (the Shumerians and their language are long gone -- ancient -- by the time the Hebrews amount to anything).



There are no real large differences. The Hebrews omitted much, probably because they didn't understand it, and didn't think it was important.

The other reason is that many words were incorrectly translated, often intentionally.

For example, nephilim was always translated as "giants" even though the word has only two possible meanings: "those who from heaven came to Earth" or "those who from heaven were cast down to Earth." Some people can't handle the truth and thought it would be easier to cover up the truth.

The same with shem. Shem is incorrectly translated as "renown" or "fame." Shem is a rocket or missile.

Here we have several issues, christian parochialism, plus ethnocentrism, plus ignorance.

We know Greece was the first civilization, therefore rockets/missiles could not have existed prior to that. The story makes no sense as incorrectly translated. Why would "making a name" for yourself or achieving "renown" so greatly disturb the deity and his colleagues to the point that they think it is in everyone's best interest to "confuse their language."

You can make a name for yourself or achieve renown as a king, as a warrior, as a merchant and as many other things, but trying to make a name for yourself by building a tower strikes fear in the deities.

That makes no sense, unless shem is a rocket/missile launch pad.

Why is the US upset with Iran, because Iran is trying to make a name for itself? No, because Iran is building rockets/missiles.



It's silly if you ask me. The reason anyone invents anything is because there's a need for something. According the Shumerians, the Annunaki invented humans because they needed someone to mine gold for them.



The Shumerians thought they were mortal beings not from Earth. Like I said, academicians swear that ziggurats are "temples" even though they don't have a single shred of evidence to support that, and that's sad given the number of ziggurats there are.

It's the same as "pyramids are tombs." All those pyramids and not one single pharaoh was ever buried in one.

By comparison, that would be like every single cemetery in the US being totally devoid of bodies, and everyone is buried in fantastically adorned mausoleums miles and miles and miles and miles from the nearest cemetery.

That was great Ning, Im being educated..

In the case of Triton, was the clockwise rotation created from the impact of Triton into one of Neptunes moons, or was it always clockwise? What causes the direction of the rotation of a planet?

On the Web there are many sites that dont explain that it was one of Nibiru's moons that made the collision with earth. There is a lot of fear mongering about 2012 being the return of Nibiru. According to your calculations and others. i conclude that we have nothing to worry about, except for maybe our government creating its own form of apocalypse.

Tilt on a planet creates seasons as a planet orbits the sun..It seems that many planets have enough tilt to create seasons, especially Mars. If the earths tilt were to suddenly get knocked off would we experience more winter or summer?

Since Tiamat or earth was a watery planet. When the Nibirus moon hit earth and threw it out of orbit, could the tilt of the planet have been thrown off long enough to create an ice age.

I am aware of Super Continent Pangea, and how it has drifted apart from the Permian period until now. Why cant we find, or can we find geological evidence from the moon that smashed into earth creating the continent? .. Also many people wonder how early man got scattered over all the planets continents...But in the early stages of the Pangea, man could have easily moved all over without needing the use of a water craft.

I agree that much is lost in translation...The Hebrew im sure omitted a lot and also words were not put into proper context. Take that one step further to the King James version and YIKES!...We may not be to far away from Grimms fairy tales..

If the Annunaki created humans to mine for gold, why did they stop the mining?.. I was under the impression the gold was for their atmosphere... wouldnt they need gold on a continual basis for their atmosphere?...

If you had in fact went to the moon, the next step would be Mars...that has always made me wonder..It has made me suspicious of NASA...Putting money aside, how hard would it be to send a probe into the asteroid belt?....Ive gone on here to much now...i better shut up..:doh:

[Sayev]

Ning,
Pretty much what I was eluding to was about the extras'. I don't think they would stick around too long if they got what they wanted. And btw why is it a defunked theory about the gold manufacturing? Why then are the only ancient "ruins" still standing the pyramids?
We can do it, and it took us (the white man so to speak) until the age of Merlin. Which is why he was so sought after as a powerful wiz. The Bhuddist were already doing it a couple centuries prior and it made them very useful in commercial trading. But then again they were mostly trading to others, not England.
I dunno, maybe we're just oblivious to a lot of what is going on, like I already stated. I think, or imo we as a whole just don't get the big pic. Too bad...:ohmy:

[Ningishiddza]

In the case of Triton, was the clockwise rotation created from the impact of Triton into one of Neptunes moons, or was it always clockwise?

It was always clockwise. In terms of physics, nothing that size could impact or be impacted and have its axial rotation reversed. The other moons of Neptune have counter-clockwise axial rotations. They also orbit Neptune in a counter-clockwise motion.


What causes the direction of the rotation of a planet?

The solar system it is in when it is formed. Probably the gravity of other stars caused the nebula here to start rotating counter-clockwise. I suppose whatever created the nebula may have also imparted a clockwise spin on it. That's possible. Billions of years ago a star went nova and left a nebula and it started forming solar systems out here in our neck of the woods in one of the spiral arms of the Milky Way.

The fact that Triton has a clockwise axial rotation (and orbits Neptune clockwise) proves Neptune and Triton did not form together. Neptune had to capture Triton. The fact that Triton has a clockwise rotation also proves Triton is not from our Solar System, it is from another solar system, but there's no way to tell which one.

All the Planets in our Solar System have counter-clockwise axial rotations. The outer Planets spin very fast. Jupiter and Saturn are 9 and 10 hours and Uranus and Neptune about 16 hours each (that's the length of their "day"). They also orbit the Sun in a counter-clockwise motion. The Sun itself has a counter-clockwise axial rotation and our Solar System is part of a group of solar systems that rotate counter-clockwise around an unknown point somewhere out there.


On the Web there are many sites that dont explain that it was one of Nibiru's moons that made the collision with earth.

Enuma elish...is very clear on that. The four large moons had names (East Wind, West Wind, North Wind and South Wind) and the 3 smaller moons had names as well, but I can't remember them off the top of my head.

It was one of the large moons that struck Earth. Sitchin also takes great pains to show it was a moon in his diagrams and not the planet Nibiru itself, and also that the Shumerians state quite clearly it was a moon.

A little physics works wonders here. Whatever impacted Earth had to be slightly smaller than our Moon in size.


There is a lot of fear mongering about 2012 being the return of Nibiru.

It makes money. I'm fatally flawed, so I could never do stuff like that, but if I could, I'd be rich leading people on a wild goose chase.


According to your calculations and others. i conclude that we have nothing to worry about, except for maybe our government creating its own form of apocalypse.

I don't see that happening.

If you read Ezekiel in light of Nibiru, it makes sense. In Enuma elish... the Lord of Hosts is Nibiru and its moons (the ones that are left). In the Hebrew texts, that's a Shumerian/Akkadian loan word.

The Day of the Lord is another Shumerian loan word. The Day of the Lord was the day Nibiru crossed the Plane of the Ecliptic. I've read texts that were printed in one of the professional journals describing how they prepared celebtrations for that event. It was basically a year long New Year celebration starting with the Spring Equinox and continuing until the crossing.

They watch the skies and for each "station," that is when Nibiru crossed the orbital path of the other planets, they would have a huge feast day.
So as Nibiru crossed the paths of the outer planets, they would party down. Then you have the big day and everyone would watch it and they lit some kind of signal fire or something from the tops of all the ziggurats. I got the impression it was some kind of colored smoke maybe.

Anyway, those texts are dated to 4600 BCE which makes 1394 BCE a good date which means the return wouldn't be until 2260 BCE.

There's something else. Oh, the Hebrew Calendar. It isn't Hebrew, and they Hebrews didn't invent it. It's the Nippurrian Calendar, and it has a specific starting date (the Hebrews use the same starting date) and it runs for only 6,000 years.

The starting date is 3760 BCE and 6,000 years is 2240 How about that?

Now, if you go to a Jewish web-site, they might claim the calendar does not end, but that is not true at all. As I said, it isn't their calendar, they just borrowed it and happen to still use it. Some of the more conservative or orthodox Jewish groups claim the calendar ends.

Right now the Nippurian/Hebrew Calendar is in year 5771 so year 6000 is 2240 to us.

I believe that is when Nibiru returns, and some calamity will happen. It was not uncommon at all to have Nibiru push asteroids out of the Asteroid Belt toward Earth and they would wreck havoc here.

Again, look Joshua and the Day the Earth Stood Still. That's a perfect example.

The Deluge is another example. The Shumerian/Akkadian texts only say it was a celestial event. I think Nibiru knocked an asteroid loose, it entered Near-Earth-Orbit and then as a 3-body system it started on a collision course.

Anyway, Ezekiel says when the Lord of Hosts (Nibiru and its moons) return, the Day of the Lord (when Nibiru reaches the Asteroid Belt) will see the Earth reeling to and fro like a drunkard and then Earth is cast out of its orbit.

That is a distinct possibility.


Tilt on a planet creates seasons as a planet orbits the sun..It seems that many planets have enough tilt to create seasons, especially Mars. If the earths tilt were to suddenly get knocked off would we experience more winter or summer?

Equal amounts. There would be Spring for 6 months and then Fall for 6 months. That might actually cause the ice at the North and South Poles to melt. I'd have to calculate that.

The Sun's Northing Point (our Summer Solstice but the Winter Solstice in the Southern Hemisphere) would change and so would the Southing Point. The Northing Point would be farther north.

Right now the Sun basically runs back and forth between the Tropic of Cancer and the Tropic of Capricorn. That would change if the Earth had no tilt.


Since Tiamat or earth was a watery planet. When the Nibirus moon hit earth and threw it out of orbit, could the tilt of the planet have been thrown off long enough to create an ice age.

I don't know. I wouldn't think so. The impact would have heated the crust and mantle and it would have take some time to cool.

The Earth's tilt does play apart in Ice Ages now, mostly because of the change in albedo, but the Earth's climate has only been static for about 4 Million years, every since South America crashed into Panama and closed off the gap to keep ocean water from circulating between the South Pacific and the South Atlantic.

The Earth's tilt is part of the 41,000 year cycle.


I am aware of Super Continent Pangea, and how it has drifted apart from the Permian period until now. Why cant we find, or can we find geological evidence from the moon that smashed into earth creating the continent?

You have to look for evidence. Most of the evidence would be at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean, and the rest of it would have been destroyed over time through the processes of tectonic activity, volcanic activity, and wind, water and ice erosion.

You'd have to know something about the moon and its composition, too. Was it mostly silica or mostly iron? Even if it was mostly iron, iron is iron no matter where you go in the universe, so unless it was mixed with something unusual it wouldn't be possible to differentiate.


Also many people wonder how early man got scattered over all the planets continents...But in the early stages of the Pangea, man could have easily moved all over without needing the use of a water craft.

But humans weren't around at that time.


If the Annunaki created humans to mine for gold, why did they stop the mining?.. I was under the impression the gold was for their atmosphere... wouldnt they need gold on a continual basis for their atmosphere?...

If they were smart, they would have stock-piled gold for future use.

One of the things that baffled the Spanish Conquistadors (they all comment extensively on this in their writings) is that the Incas and others had piles and piles and piles of gold dust.

They were flabbergasted. Why would you have storage areas filled with gold dust?

The other thing that astonished the Spanish was that not one single one of the dozen or so Meso-American groups used gold for money. They all had gold stockpiled in store rooms and storage areas, and they had a few gold artifacts used as ceremonial items. The calendar rounds were in gold. The Spanish wrote about the calendar rounds, drew pictures of them, make clay molds of them and then melted them down.

Some of the Spanish were livid. "You have gold and you're not using it for money? What kind of freaks are you? That's gold abuse."

The other bizarre thing is that none of the Meso-American groups knew how to mine gold, and they didn't know where the gold came from. The Spanish tortured thousands and thousands of Mayans and Incans and Aztecs and Chimichecs and others trying to find the gold mines. No one knew. They kept saying the "gods" gave them the gold to store for them.

It has now been 5 centuries and still no one has found the gold mines.

There are two parallel sources of gold from the Spanish, their logs when the gold was weighed and placed on ships (some of the ships sank in the Atlantic) and the Spanish kingdom logged all the incoming gold into their treasury. Geologists and mining engineers who look at those records have all said none of the civilizations had the man-power to mine that much gold ore, or to process it, and no one has any idea where the gold ore was processed. Some have theorized that the Pyramid of the Sun and Pyramid of the Moon were part of a gold and tin ore processing complex, but that would be the only one.


If you had in fact went to the moon, the next step would be Mars...that has always made me wonder..It has made me suspicious of NASA.

The surface gravity on Mars is 3.72 and it's 1.6 on the Moon. That's close enough and you could practice on the Moon. The only real difference is the travel time. There are more benefits than not going. My guess is the Chinese will be the first on Mars.


..Putting money aside, how hard would it be to send a probe into the asteroid belt?

A few $Billion.


And btw why is it a defunked theory about the gold manufacturing?

It's called engineering, and no, there are no alchemical processes to transmute metals into gold.


Why then are the only ancient "ruins" still standing the pyramids?

They aren't the only ancient ruins. The Pyramids were built circa 9,000 BCE, but those aren't the oldest ruins on the Planet. The ruins at Ponape, about 3/4 are submerged and 1/4 partially submerged are older than the Pyramids. The underwater ruins off the coasts of India and Japan are also older than the Pyramids.

There are many other ruins built after the Pyramids but before Stonehenge that are still standing.


We can do it, and it took us (the white man so to speak) until the age of Merlin. Which is why he was so sought after as a powerful wiz.

Do what? Transmute metal into gold? Not gonna happen. Merlin was a mythicized figure.

[James Random]

Very interesting Anarch, thanks.

One thing that came to mind regarding the time frames mentioned was man power logistics. The Egyptians had available to them millions of slaves from near and afar. The relocating of the Abu Simbal structure to dryer grounds was not conducted by "slave" labor so depending on the urgency paid labor would have to be budgeted. Mechanical advances would have also replaced raw physical power and laborers.


The other temple that supposedly took 150 years due to geographical location probably had limited human resources with which to complete the work.

except it has now been deduced that those who built the pyramids were not actually slaves at all.

[hobobone]

Again that was quite insightful Ning...

I have went and read the Tablets or poem of Enuma Elish. I take it that every thing in the poem is symbolic. Tiamat the ocean goddess is in fact earth. Outside of the bible is this the earliest version of creation and are there other versions?....And yes, Sitchin does explain very well that one of Nibirus moons hit earth.

My stupidity in assuming man would be here during the Permian period. However, wouldnt it have been easier to navigate the sea earlier as the continents would not have drifted as far apart yet?..Also how far can the continents drift over time...I mean wouldnt they end up smacking back into each other at a point..And if the earth is always trying to heal itself with the moving of the plates, then that means we are always going to have earthquakes and at a point very large devastating quakes are unavoidable..


If our country hadnt ran itself into so much debt we could have spent the several billion needed to send the probe and answer the deepest and oldest questions asked by man. Do you think that this country has already sent a probe and found out those answers without telling us? There are billionaires that could have funded that project outside of NASA. The president has privatized space exploration, letting corporations take over, could this be the reason why?..If the government knew that there were no heaven or hell and could prove the Annunaki used man as slaves, then whats would stop them from doing the same thing to us?

The Incas gold dust stockpiling is impressive...when looking at gold it has many uses, from gold injections for health to motherboards and cell phones, space suit and spacecrafts and even in wiring. There may be many uses that we are not aware of yet. When you just look at silicone or sand the uses are impressive. Scientists have constructed chips out of silicone that can control speed of light pulses..I think there could be many elements that have been overlooked.

Over time its highly possible that the Annunaki have advanced.. If so, isnt it possible that they could have constructed crafts that could bring them to this planet. Possibly even coming here to remove gold..And if the Annunaki existed then it seems highly possibly that other forms of intelligent alien life could exist.

Im quite familiar with the book of Ezekiel as in the religious school we studied it in depth...many of us would try to link things from Ezekiel to alien technology. But the very strict Wesleyan Methodists would have none of that..I cant tell you how many arguments came from Ezekiels wheel within a wheel...

Since the Hebrews borrowed a calendar, A calendar being an important timeline, can you imagine what else they may have borrowed?

[Waymarker]

What's this thread about anyway?
If it's saying the building of the pyramids was beyond the capabilities of the Egyptians unless they had alien help, NAH!
A very good Brit TV docu a couple of years ago showed how they could easily have constructed them with the technology of the time, simply by using simple geometry, ramps, pulleys and levers etc.
In one case (if i remember right) the ancient egyptians even created a temporary artificial lake around the base of one pyramid to use its perfectly flat horizontal surface as a reference point to lay the foundations, then drained it afterwards.
In short, the message of the docu was- "we do ancient peoples an injustice by underestimating their skill and resourcefulness"

[Ningishiddza]

My stupidity in assuming man would be here during the Permian period. However, wouldnt it have been easier to navigate the sea earlier as the continents would not have drifted as far apart yet?

The Atlantic Ocean formed around 65 Million years ago or so. For millions of years before that, it was merely a Rift Valley. It continued to widen and then it filled with water and was what we would call a Strait.

Then it continued to widen. It will continue to widen until it is stopped when it runs into the east Asian plates.


..Also how far can the continents drift over time...I mean wouldnt they end up smacking back into each other at a point..And if the earth is always trying to heal itself with the moving of the plates, then that means we are always going to have earthquakes and at a point very large devastating quakes are unavoidable..

I think that is a reasonable assumption.

Here's a site that shows an animation of how the continents moved (but only up to the present).

http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/geology/tectonics.html

These are paleomaps that focus on North America:

http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~rcb7/nam.html

[Tired Old Man]

Thanks for the link Anarch. Better than watching TV.

[Red Shift]

Wow.... I need some time to reflect and think on ALL THAT JUICEY INFORMATION!

I've never heard or seen all the facts in one go like that.

FOr now ill just say thank you Anarch for posting that!

[one14am]

This has been on my "to do" watch list for a while. Wow. Quite enthralling. But there is an issue on some of the information that seemed to have been quelled. What about episode 6. It has been replaced with a dup of episode 5. I did a bit of digging but I need help. I want to see the rest of the series. Do I need to call in the conspiracy theorists? I have not been one for that channel but this one seems the best one yet.

[JenaS62]

ok - you got me interested so I am also watching the series and I am disappointed that #6 is just a repeat of #5. Bummer.

Although it's great to see all of the pieces laid out regarding the pyramids all over the world - I have always believed they were connected and were constructed by an ancient advanced society (alien society).

[Anarch]

I shall find out about this and if yall aint seen ep 6 by then I shall fix that. It is an amazing thing though right... anyways.. I'd do it now for yall but this is gonna be a busy day for me. so tomorrow I shall fix it up if yuall aint found it yet.

[Blu-ray]

The videos are gone. What was the name of the Documentary? Was it on the Discovery Channel?

[JenaS62]

The videos are gone. What was the name of the Documentary? Was it on the Discovery Channel?


They are on youtube. Revelations of the Pyramids.

[Blu-ray]

They are on youtube. Revelations of the Pyramids.

But what is the NAME!!!!!!

[JenaS62]

But what is the NAME!!!!!!


Here is part one. The name is Revelations of the Pyramids.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6cl589rQl4

[Blu-ray]

Here is part one. The name is Revelations of the Pyramids.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6cl589rQl4

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Thank you!

[JenaS62]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Thank you!


Holy shit. :doh:

[one14am]

Thanks for looking into it. If you manage to find episode 6 let us know.


I shall find out about this and if yall aint seen ep 6 by then I shall fix that. It is an amazing thing though right... anyways.. I'd do it now for yall but this is gonna be a busy day for me. so tomorrow I shall fix it up if yuall aint found it yet.

[Anarch]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KBTT7ptbKQ


Whole doc in one shot. Might take a moment to buffer on slower connections.

[one14am]

Thank you.

[Blu-ray]

Excellent. Thank you for sharing.

[Blu-ray]

Oh shit. It just dawned on me if it's true about the line being a "second equator" that would make the Physical (not magnetic) north pole be in North America? Did I get this right from the documentary?

I need to watch it again. I would watch it on my TV using my Roku but Google/YouTube have been dicks and forced Roku to do away with the Youtube App. Because they are dicks.

EDIT: Sweeeeeeet, my Blu-ray player's YouTube app still works!

[Blu-ray]

I found this site yesterday in regards to this line. It covers pretty much what the documentary has on the line that connects all the ancient ruins. http://www.grahamhancock.com/forum/AlisonJ1-p1.htm I thought I would share.

[Anarch]

EPIC! Thanks Blu-ray!

[Ningishiddza]

Oh shit. It just dawned on me if it's true about the line being a "second equator" that would make the Physical (not magnetic) north pole be in North America? Did I get this right from the documentary?

Space is 3 Dimensional right?

We don't have X and Y, rather we have X, Y and Z.

If you were an extra-terrestrial, and you wanted to point the way to your civilization of origin in another star system, how would you do that?

One way would be to create a pseudo-equator and memorialize it. Our Solar System rests on the Plane of the Sun's equator, but another solar system might rest in a different equatorial plane, and this pseudo-equator might mark that.

Also, the Shumerian descriptions of Nibiru are that it comes from the "south" and it's orbital path is inclined to the Planet of both the Sun's equator and the Earth's equator, and a pseudo-equator might actually depict the planar relationship of Nibiru to Earth (or perhaps to the Sun).

[James Random]

Space is 3 Dimensional right?



It's 4 dimensional.

[James Random]

We have almost certainly faced some sort of cataclysm between then and now to wit all of this information
has become lost. Look at the Baghdad battery, for example. Why did that technology vanish for x-amount of millennia?

[one14am]

Anyone here ever read this book? Path of the Pole.
http://www.amazon.com/Path-Pole-Cataclysmic-Poleshift-Geology/dp/0932813712/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1326490840&sr=1-4

[one14am]

I found this site yesterday in regards to this line. It covers pretty much what the documentary has on the line that connects all the ancient ruins. http://www.grahamhancock.com/forum/AlisonJ1-p1.htm I thought I would share.

Thanks Blu-ray. Cool site.

[one14am]

Video not available :-(


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KBTT7ptbKQ


Whole doc in one shot. Might take a moment to buffer on slower connections.

[Fut004]

No idea why this video keeps getting pulled from Youtube.

Here's the only one that I can find now. It's 7 parts in total.
dtb13WTnN_Y

[Traveler]

This is just joining a few dots.

From Ning on the first page I noticed he was talking about the trilothons. that were found in the foundation of the first temple in Jerusalem.

This temple was supposed to have been built by King Solomon. At the time this was going on he was also doing the first constructive study on demonology. From which the greater and lessor keys are derived. According to the testament of Solomon he had been given a seal from God that gave him authority over the demons and he used this to name then, identify what they did and which angels they were frustrated by in their doings.

The only problem was that he had a tendency of putting them to work on the temple after he had finished interrogating them. According to his testimony he had Beelzebub cutting the limestone and Azazel throwing them up to where the work was taking place.

Looking at this it means that the trilothons were not put in place by human hand anyway.

Just thought you guys may find that interesting.

[one14am]

I really just want to see part 6. Why is part six impossible to find? Why is it a repeat of part 5 if it is found? Ugh...