The universe as a hologram(question for experts and I need anyone's opinion)?

[Energy]

That's the stupidest theory I've ever heard,I have my stances on this.Also,can you really accept that you're an hologram?
Give me a break there is unambiguous line which divides hologram and the real world.

Here is what theory says,check on the following website:
http://twm.co.nz/hologram.html

Conclusion:The problem with this theory is it presumes that our brain is a hologrm.They think that because they also think that groups of neurons are not where the memory is stored,but the entire memory is stored in nerve impulses,which entirely wrong.All the memory is in neurons' groups,which has been proven by modern science.
If this theory is true(but it isn't) that would mean I'm hallucinating,all of you don't exist,I'm getting crazy.This is unduobtly the worst/stupidest theory,that has ever existed in the world of science-that's quasi science if you ask me,not the real-science.
This reminds me on solipsists(I think they were somewhere in the 17th or 18th) -philosophers who thought that the entire universe/multiverse is inside the brain,so that only their ego exists,and their brain creates all of objective reality.Their arguments have been beaten by many other philosophers.
So,I really want to hear your opinion about this theory about the universe to be an hologram.
Cheers!

[dutchie]

This is more in the realm of philosophy than in science. Sounds like the Matrix dunnit??

I don't believe it for one second.

[Energy]

This is more in the realm of philosophy than in science. Sounds like the Matrix dunnit??

I don't believe it for one second.

So,should I put it in the philosophy forum?

[dutchie]

hhhmmm, no.. the article tries to have a scientific apporach towards a philosophical idea.. I'll leave it here.

[Red Shift]

weird stuff there, how the hell did you find that site?

this might explain why i keep walking through walls

:dork:

[Cpt.Shrap]

If subatomic particles can communicate over unlimited distances, that might explain why peaple still feel pain in their limb after weeks of it being severed. Amazing stuff :scatter:

[Energy]

weird stuff there, how the hell did you find that site?

this might explain why i keep walking through walls

:dork:

Oh,trust me you don't walk thru walls,while you're sleeping,it's all an product of the brain,but I must not post about here,about this subject.
However,this is the stupidest theory,I've ever heard or seen.

[dutchie]

I agree. It's an LSD induced philosphy, backed up with nonsensical horseshit science arguments.

[Red Shift]

normally i try to give everything some time and think about it long and hard before i pass judgement on it, but here im just gonna say it's really wako!

[Keeblergiant]

No...it is not all LSD induced...it came about because of observations made in the theory of black hole entropy. It is also possible to prove that this is a possible model for our universe using certain versions of string theory (even though we don't know if string theory is true or not, it still gives credence to the holographics principle.) And you seem to be confusing the holographic principle (that everything is a hologram), with aspects of the holotropic mind. They are related, but not the same theory. The holographic principle makes no assumptions about our brain (it is the same theory whether "brains" exist or not), but the holotropic (the correct term when referring to the "holographic" theory of the brain) brain theory makes assumptions based on the holographic principle. IT IN NO WAY IMPLIES OR IS SIMILAR TO SOLIPSISM. You have to remember that these are extremely complex scientific ideas, and you need to read more than one article to give any credence to your thinking. Hell, if I were you, I would go learn some black hole entropy theory and quantum information before you say anything else. Oh, and what the hell is this:


All the memory is in neurons' groups,which has been proven by modern science.

MOST memory is processed in the hippocampus, amygdala, and the mammillary bodies and is stored in neural networks, which, although similar to neuron groups, is not exactly the same. But, that is irrelevant because it is the uneven distribution of the memory holding facilities that inspired the idea of the holotropic mind. Please, do not try make arguments based on things that you know nothing about.

[Keeblergiant]

But, the article you read is wrong anyways...I didn't even have to read the whole thing to figure that one out, just the first paragraph. The author is referring to entanglement, and entanglement doesn't break Einstein's special relativity. Special relativity says that no information can travel faster than the speed of light, but in this case there is no information traveling faster than the speed of light. The author even calls entanglement "communication", which is horribly wrong and gives the wrong message to the reader. There is no "communication." These particles are intimately linked, and you cannot use this fact to exploit faster-than-light communication for the mere fact that if the wave function of the entangled particles collapses, the particles are no longer entangled.

[Cpt.Shrap]

[ These particles are intimately linked, and you cannot use this fact to exploit faster-than-light communication for the mere fact that if the wave function of the entangled particles collapses, the particles are no longer entangled.[/QUOTE]

If youde have read the whole thing, you would have discovered that the basis for his argument is that the separation of "sub atomic particles" is merely an illusion. So... what we think to be the the collapse of a wave funcion, is also part of that illusion.. :starwars:

[Keeblergiant]

I've already stated that the article is flawed, and what the author says about a non-local universe is no different. Non-locality does not explain away all of quantum entanglement, which is why there is still controversy. Please, explain to me how non-locality explains the fact that two entangled particles have negative spins of each other...spin is in intrinsic property, it does not deal with the outside of a particle nor it's location. Oh, and the collapse of the wave function is not an illusion...when we make a measurement, we know POSITIVELY that the particle is at that position, therefore it is not in a superposition and the wave function equals zero except for at the position of the particle, where there is an infinite spike (think of it as dirac's delta function).

[Cpt.Shrap]

Im not an atomic expert...but... if it is a true illusion, it should fallow all laws of physics. no? In this case, the more facts you know, the more deluted you are to the real reality...
:uh:
PS: Many of the terms you refer to i have no idea of, lol

[Donsun]

So,should I put it in the philosophy forum?
no this falls more along the lines of dung. i would put it in the crapper forum! :grin :Llol:

[Zach]

no this falls more along the lines of dung. i would put it in the crapper forum! :grin :Llol:


LMAO Donsun.

I feel the same way as you guys. My only thought is maybe they have discovered something that we know nothing about. We would say its crap because we dont know any true facts that would allow us to make a conclusion. Il say its dung but im still gonna keep an eye out about it. Who knows, Einstein could be wrong(or didnt know anything about this stuff).

[Keeblergiant]

LMAO Donsun.

I feel the same way as you guys. My only thought is maybe they have discovered something that we know nothing about. We would say its crap because we dont know any true facts that would allow us to make a conclusion. Il say its dung but im still gonna keep an eye out about it. Who knows, Einstein could be wrong(or didnt know anything about this stuff).

The thing is, if the holographic principle is right, Einstein isn't necessarily wrong. That would be like calling Newton wrong because of general relativity...only the ignorant do it. One of the main attractions of the holographic principle is that it provides a way to unify GR and quantum mechanics, at least to low energy approximations.