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Oct 3rd, 2004, 11:38 AM
do you think crop circles are the real deal, or just a stupid human prank?
Oct 3rd, 2004, 3:35 PM
Definately a bit of both !
Oct 5th, 2004, 12:51 PM
Definately a bit of both !
Yes i would have to agree a bit of BS and a bit of dung. :ban:
Oct 5th, 2004, 3:34 PM
well...i read some expert said that 70% of all crop circles were man-made. you figure out the rest, look it up.
Oct 6th, 2004, 9:41 AM
They're like $20 bills. Some are fake, but just because some are fake does not mean all are.
Oct 15th, 2004, 3:39 PM
well i think some are fake and some are real.
Oct 21st, 2004, 11:03 AM
They are kinda a hobby of mine Zoe; I plan to publish a picturebook locally next year on the crop circles of Southern Oregon and Northern California. There are lots of them here.... I am a pilot and I photograph them from the air.
I will let you in on a little secret, of the 70 odd instances that I have photos of EVERY ONE was created by my collaborators. They are very good at it, I have even helped a time or two. Not one in my region is "real"; but several have been investigated and judged to be unexplainable.
Doing things like going to a machine shop and getting a bunch of metal filings and spreading them around....gaussmeters and magnetometers go crazy, and the investigators go around telling everyone that variences in earths magnetic and gravitational fields CANT be faked...hehehehehe... Thorium dioxide or even shredded Coleman lantern mantles are slightly radioactive, add them to the filings...Hmmmmm compasses spin, gravitometers, gaussmeters, magnetometers all acting funny, AND enhanced background radioactivity??? OMG, its GOTTA be real;..hehehehe, all the way to the bank...
So Im highly skeptical, as you might suspect...
Oct 21st, 2004, 5:32 PM
Doug Bower and Dave Chorley, two men in their 60's at the time, claimed that they were responsible for the crop circles that everyone was talking about. Armed with planks of wood, garden rollers and string, the men would stomp and mark an area of a field, thus creating crop circles as we know them.
The rest are immitations - more complex but all easily explainable. Using simple geometry, you can produce even the more wonderous ones in a matter of hours.
It's preposterous to think that if Extra-Terrestrial beings found a way to reach our planet, and had the technology to posisbly travel at the speed of light, that they would try to communicate by imprinting symbols in some farmers' field.
There are some 'crop circles' that emit strange radiation or other phenomena... I have no explination really.
The histroy channel has some good info - watch it religously.
Oct 21st, 2004, 11:23 PM
>There are some 'crop circles' that emit strange radiation or other phenomena...
>I have no explination really.
there was a show i watched where a bunch of MIT students recreated a crop circle overnight, strange radiation and all. its possible to recreate. but...
its harder to do them in broad daylight while someone is filming it being made. i've got this clip showing a crop circle being made, its unbelieveable. its one of those things you have to see to believe, and even then, you'd have to say, its photoshoped, but well...i don't know. i didn't catch it on my digicam.
we think a model airplane was used to fly over the field equipped with some kind of energy emitter to make the crop circle. or just a plain outright forgery. dunno. u be the judge.
download and change the extention from .doc to .mpg, then play it.
[oops, too large...nvm]
Oct 22nd, 2004, 2:46 AM
Taking frequency and locations in account, I'm sure they're ALL man made.
Oct 22nd, 2004, 10:36 AM
...the Nazca lines?
I think the originals were not man made. How could we have made crop circles in the 1600s? We can re-create them now and are re-creating them now, but IMO, to discredit the possibility they were not man-made. To mask and distort the occurrences. Much like the UFO phenomenae, IMO.
Oct 22nd, 2004, 3:33 PM
Im pretty sure the nazca lines were made by the ancients, but I wasnt there and dont know. Crop circles have long been an interest of mine but I have yet to see one that mystified me. I have been involved in the construction of hundreds over the years and did much of aerial photography for Circular Evidence when I was at Cambridge. It helped pay my tuition and went on the European bestsellers list. I got royalties for years...
I cant say that all are absolutly manmade, but Im reasonably sure that all Ive encounted were, if I wasnt absolutly sure; so Im very skeptical.
They are very easy to make, anyone with any idea of geometry can make them with nothing but some string lines and a board. But I am curious of the motives of someone making them before the advent of mass media???
I was never in any conspiracy to "mask" the real ones; just a young man having fun and exploiting peoples stupidity to make some money; and I never forced anyone to buy the book...
I might add that its really easy to knock down grass, and if enough foresight is given, you can produce some really amazing results that look just incredible, just by creatively using string lines. I will send you a copy of my latest book when its published....
Oct 22nd, 2004, 4:29 PM
i'm gonna send ya an .mpg of the crop circle clip i couldn't post. its about 1meg large.
>I was never in any conspiracy to "mask" the real ones;
i believe you. but. most people, IMO, do what's fun for them and puts food on their table. their job. you wouldn't have to know that the purpose of building a gyroscope; is to be, later used to guide missiles, to strike a water purification plant in the desert. its not necessary.
the feasible, plausible, deniability of compartmentalization, allows for it. i hate to tell you this, but from here, it sounds like you're a cog in the engine of perpetrating the myths of crop circles and UFOs :grin :2thumbs:
Mix in some cattle mutilations during the 70's and 90's and you'll really have some unexplainable occurrences. Mind you, everything has an earthly explanation. Cattle were attacked by predators...but left no blood. Crop circles were made with boards and strings...in less than 20 minutes in broad daylight with people never noticing nearby. Manmade Saucers/Triangles were seen by many witnesses...decades before the technology was available or understood.
I think there is an active campaign to publicly dismiss historical anomalies with contemporary explanations. "Swamp gas"
Now proving it is another matter.
Oct 28th, 2004, 6:21 PM
I;m with the nay sayers. They are probobly man, or woman, made .
Dec 27th, 2004, 1:26 AM
I think its both, at first it was probably genuinely made by some "aliens" or some really cool supernatural force. But then as it became wider known, I think some people just though it would be cool to duplicate it and stomp on some farmer's crops. I remember seeing some shows/documentaries about the people stomping on the corn fields, but I don't think they ever claimed that they have done every single one or (if I remember correctly or not) that they never said what was their inspiration to being this. But I guess its mainly just opinion at the moment until the real "truth" comes out.
Dec 27th, 2004, 8:39 AM
I also think that it started of with alien's or a super natural event but than farmers might had done many themselves since they could get the attention they wanted and this helps with money probably the great majority of pour farmers faked their crop circles the richer and non greedy ones probably the great majority was real
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