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wise seeker
Oct 7th, 2003, 8:55 AM
slan·der (sl˛n“d…r) n. 1. Law. Oral communication of false statements injurious to a person's reputation.

That not to say that politicians, or other high profile public figures, never say sorry. The US evangelist, Rev Billy Graham, really had no choice when 30-year-old tape recordings of his White House conversations with Richard Nixon were released last year and revealed blatant anti-semitism. He complained that Jews had a "stranglehold" on America and said that a second Nixon administration "might be able to do something" about it. He soon apologised, saying that "racial prejudice, anti-semitism or hatred of anyone with different beliefs" had no place in the human mind or heart. (Guardian Unlimited Monday September 29, 2003)

Billy Graham takes a 100 % salary as CEO and works less than 10 %! He is no different than Baptist preacher Rev. Jesse Jackson who also doesn't work for a living and collects a salary!

"I can't stand very well, so I'll have to sit," said Graham, 83, who explained that shunts installed in his brain to drain fluid have left him with an overall numbness. Fort Worth Star Telegram October 16, 2002

Billy Graham and BGEA lied when they stated on a signed BILLY GRAHAM EVANGELISTIC ASSOCIATION Federal I.D, 41-0692230 Form 990 for the year 2000:
Name and Address Billy Graham Montreat. NC
Title & Time Devoted To Position
Director & Chairman 40 hrs/wk
Compensation $174,000
Contribution to employee Benefit plans $19,786

BILLY GRAHAM HAS NOT WORKED 40 HRS A WEEK FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS!

Speaking about liars did you read Nixon, Billy Graham Anti-Semitism on Tape by James Warren Published on Friday, March 1, 2002 in the Chicago Tribune?

Rev. Billy Graham openly voiced a belief that Jews control the American media, calling it a "stranglehold" during a 1972 conversation with President Richard Nixon, according to a tape of the Oval Office meeting released Thursday by the National Archives.
"This stranglehold has got to be broken or the country's going down the drain," the nation's best-known preacher declared as he agreed with a stream of bigoted Nixon comments about Jews and their perceived influence in American life.

"You believe that?" Nixon says after the "stranglehold" comment.

"Yes, sir," Graham says.

"Oh, boy," replies Nixon. "So do I. I can't ever say that but I believe it."

"No, but if you get elected a second time, then we might be able to do something," Graham replies.

[Nixon speaking]
The best Jews are actually the Israeli Jews."
"That's right," agrees Graham, who later concurs with a Nixon assertion that a "powerful bloc" of Jews confronts Nixon in the media. "And they're the ones putting out the pornographic stuff," Graham adds.
"Well," says Nixon, "it's also, the Jews are irreligious, atheistic, immoral bunch of bastards."

www.commondreams.org/head...301-02.htm

Graham weathering the storm
Evangelist fighting for respect after controversy at the twilight of his career
By Allen G. Breed Associated Press

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Billy Graham's birthplace is long gone, hauled off by fallen televangelist Jim Bakker to his now defunct theme park.
All that remains is a stone marker with a bronze relief of Graham, his fiery eyes and square jaw leaping off the plaque.
''Billy Graham is one of the giants of our time,'' reads the 1971 dedication. ''Truly a man of God.''
It's signed by President Richard Nixon.
Today, the great evangelist is haunted by words he said three decades ago to that same president in the presumed privacy of the Oval Office.
At 83, the ailing preacher is weathering a controversy over a newly released tape recording in which he makes disparaging remarks about Jews in a conversation with Nixon.
For some, the comments have all but erased the lifetime of good will Graham had built.
''I fear, and it's with great sadness, that his legacy will be tarnished by this permanently,'' says New York Rabbi James Rudin, past interreligious director of the American Jewish Committee.
But while many are disappointed that a man of Graham's stature would ever utter such words, they feel that the man should be taken for the whole of his actions and deeds.
''Obviously, there are people who are so blinded by single-issue morality that they will say that he is unworthy simply because of that lapse,'' says James Dunn, former director of the Baptist Joint Committee in Washington and a professor at Wake Forest University Divinity School.
On the tapes, Graham's trademark Southern drawl can be clearly heard agreeing with Nixon that left-wing Jews dominate the American media.
''They're the ones putting out the pornographic stuff,'' Graham says, adding: ''This stranglehold has got to be broken or this country's going down the drain.''
''You believe that?'' Nixon asks.
''Yes, sir,'' says Graham.
''Oh boy. So do I,'' Nixon agrees. ''I can't ever say that, but I believe it.''
What surprised many was that Graham didn't just mumble his assent to his powerful friend's complaints about Jews -- he took the conversation a step further.
''Not all the Jews, but a lot of the Jews are great friends of mine, they swarm around me and are friendly to me because they know that I'm friendly with Israel,'' Graham is heard saying. ''But they don't know how I really feel about what they are doing to this country.''
The comments were all the more stinging because Graham had long been considered a staunch friend of the Jewish people. He lobbied for freer emigration of Soviet Jews, castigated Southern Baptists for singling out Jews for conversion and has long supported the state of Israel.
When the tapes first surfaced, Graham issued an apology but said he couldn't remember making the comments.

www.onlineathens.com/stor...0020.shtml

“My Health Is Excellent!''

Rev Billy Graham hosted a 4 day crusade in St. Louis, MO from Oct 14-17, 1999. During his stay, he gave numerous interviews. When asked about the state of his health, he replied, "My health is excellent. I have a few age-related problems such as Parkinson's Disease, prostate problems, high blood pressure and various problems that come with age. My wife, on the other hand, has a serious health problem since she broke her hip."

Everyone is pleased to hear of Rev. Graham's "excellent health." I suspect his claim to "excellent health" was a show of personal courage. Unfortunately he misled the public in its perception of Parkinson's Disease portraying it as a benign disease of the elderly. Hasn't he heard of Michael J. Fox and the fact that there are significant numbers of people who are diagnosed with Parkinson's before age 50? While no one would expect him to turn his interview into a Parkinson's fund raiser, he could have asked the audience/congregation to pray for those who suffer from devastating, incurable diseases. It was a missed opportunity to encourage christians to be aware of the needs of the sick in their communities and to support funding of medical research.

dutchie
Oct 8th, 2003, 3:07 AM
Hi wise seeker, and a warm welcome to this forum.:D

Next time, in stead of pasting a lot of text from websources, please state your topic in a few sentences and supply the links, so people interested to read them, can follow them up. That way things don't clot up. :)

As to Billy Graham: The man always struck me as a power crazy fanatic (some of my fellow mods think that of me too...:rolleyes: ) so it's not surprising he turns out to be a racist as well.

ThunderStruck64
Oct 8th, 2003, 6:52 AM
Who the hell is Billy Graham? This one should go in the really really long realms of garbage segment.

dutchie
Oct 8th, 2003, 8:41 AM
it's not THAT long...:)

mickydoolittle
Jan 2nd, 2004, 12:56 AM
Is Billy Graham a liar and a deceiver?

Of course....all pastors are liars and decievers. It's part of the oath.

Just look at Oral Roberts, Pat Roberts, Benny Hinn...The 700 Club...yuck :sick:

SherryShriner
Jan 2nd, 2004, 1:58 AM
the info was good, but you left out the part about Graham being a 33rd degree Mason and part of the Illuminati crowd. As well as Jesse Jackson.

I interviewed Jessie Jackson back in Lynchburg, Virginia in the mid-80s and I can tell you the evil presence around that man is comparable to standing in front of Satan himself.

Sherry Shriner,

mickydoolittle
Jan 2nd, 2004, 2:25 AM
Originally posted by SherryShriner
I interviewed Jessie Jackson back in Lynchburg, Virginia in the mid-80s and I can tell you the evil presence around that man is comparable to standing in front of Satan himself.

Oh...so you know satan? On a personal, intimate level? Or is it more professional? Did you interview satan in the '80's as well?

SherryShriner
Jan 2nd, 2004, 2:00 PM
Ya know what Mickey, why don't you go pick up your toys and find something else to do other than follow people around the board to criticise and antagonize.

No one can post anything in this forum without you right on their butts to condescend anything they have to say.
You must be a miserable person.


Sherry,

mickydoolittle
Jan 2nd, 2004, 2:16 PM
Originally posted by SherryShriner
No one can post anything in this forum without you right on their butts to condescend anything they have to say.
Awwww...what's wrong punkin'? Are you angry because you have no ground to stand on after every one of the holes in your rebuttals have been blown WIDE open? Are you sad because someone won't buy the lies you spout as being truth and calls you on the carpet for such? Are you upset that someone out in the world refuses to let you bring fear and paranoia and lies as prophetic truth?


Originally posted by SherryShriner
You must be a miserable person.
You know...this has been posted before, and to be honest it is the absolute farthest thing from truth as possible. My usual retort would be that it takes someone just as miserable to recognize another person so miserable. Not this time. This is a tired line that is used when those who try in vain to argue crap as truth and fail 'miserably'. You do realize that your lies will never be accepted by me. Your fear speech will not be tolerated by me. Your refusal to think for yourself will never allow you to stand up for yourself, thus you'll always be a slave to everyone you come into contact with.

Power to the People Sherry!

databug
Jan 2nd, 2004, 9:00 PM
I'll be brief, wont take much of a reply to this one.

Yes, Billy Graham is a construct (as far fetched as this will sound) of the Illuminati. He is indeed working for 'the wrong team' we'll say. He, as well as Benny Hinn and the rest, have the world fooled, and many wannabe christians. I had heard from a pretty credible 'source' a few years ago, Graham is a free mason, hah!

Walt Disney was a free mason, too ;)

databug

mickydoolittle
Jan 2nd, 2004, 9:37 PM
Databug:

You and our resident conspirator prez-(I abbreviated) should discuss your theories at length.

databug
Jan 2nd, 2004, 10:27 PM
I didn't follow the 'conspirator prez' comment, I'm battling a headache and not paying attention right now very much, be more specific.

Ah, and not everything is a theory or a conspiracy you know ;) What is it you want to know?

databug

geedubyah
Jan 2nd, 2004, 11:17 PM
Hey good idea...prez is an excellent source for all things conspiracy. The full member name is prezhorusin04. Check him out databug.

DontBeAfraid
Jan 3rd, 2004, 12:38 AM
Satans been all over me to join the masons for years now.....

Well I finally did.... its not what its all hyped up to be....

I mean all we do is play ping pong and have gay orgies....

VegasRonin
Jan 3rd, 2004, 12:50 AM
Yes, Billy Graham is a construct (as far fetched as this will sound) of the Illuminati.
Ah yes, Prez will enjoy the exchange on the Masons and illuminati. Things are getting clearer to mine eyes methinks. Don't ask...............:smokin:

databug
Jan 3rd, 2004, 9:11 AM
Hah... I have to quote this one:

--- Satans been all over me to join the masons for years now.....

Well I finally did.... its not what its all hyped up to be....

I mean all we do is play ping pong and have gay orgies.... ---

Hahaha... that's pretty close to the mark, the 'gay orgies' that is (research the bohemian grove).

I don't know who the 'prez' is, but i know quite a bit about the masons and the illuminati. Maybe 'prez' will show up and we can swap info ;) Laurel & Hardy were free masons as well, interesting...

And mickey mouse, I'm sorry, but you sound like a depressed gothic kid, who wears 'the crow' face paint and sniffs black roses all night, whilst reading 'suicide' poetry. Instead of laying into people, little guy, have a conversation. Even birds talk to one another.

Two Socks
Jan 3rd, 2004, 1:58 PM
Son...you seem to be achin' for a damn beatin'!

How long you going to keep pokin' a puny little stick at a mean junkyard dog before you realize that you're going to get your ass chewed off?

You don't get it. You keep up the pace you got goin' right now and MD is going to be on you like white on rice. Or more appropriate- in this case-stink on shiit. Sorry MD...

The rest of the board is givin' you fair warning and plenty of room to move around--relax and debate/converse about what's here.

You're using up all the rope bein' givin' to hang yourself.

How's that foot taste by the way?

mickydoolittle
Jan 4th, 2004, 4:00 AM
ohhh......databug.

"The olive branch was extended to you", as a friend of mine likes to say often. And yet you come here and disrespect the board by posting as you have. You. . .You are an interesting one. ( ;) to the rest of the board)

First please enlighten us as to how you heard about the board?

We all know WHY you're here, but let us please read about what brought you here.

If you don't mind, of course.

jashhash1
Jan 9th, 2004, 2:17 PM
The problem with humans is that there is no such thing as a perfect one. Even the greatest men, are still men, and as they are mere men, they are liable to error.

If you look at the Bible you will se that there are many people who have serious scandelous problems, but God still used them.

King Solomon Had hundreds of wives, and he was seriously oblsessed with sex, and pleasure.

King David murdered a man just to steal his wife. (Now thats what I call Scandelous).

Paul killed countless Christians before becoming one himself (Ethnic cleansing anyone?)

How about me? How do I compare to these men. Well as i see it, i am chronicaly addicted to Gaming. Also im quite lazy. And yet a third flaw is, i have little self controll. I understand that I am not perfect, and you know what. God doesnt expect me to be perfect, thats why he sent Jesus in the first place, because he redeems my imperfection.

How about you? Are you perfect? Do you honestly think you can go through life without sin? Now you blame men like Billy Grahm because you think that they should be perfect (or atleast close) and when you see that they aren't perfect you use this as a justification against christianity.

mickydoolittle
Jan 9th, 2004, 2:33 PM
no....christians are the justification against christianity. BG happens to be a representitive embodiment of all that is wrong with the entire concept of christianity. As are all televangelists. :Llol:

For you to post that we are the pot calling the kettle black is to prove you lack the basic understanding of what it is that is disliked about religious fanatics. Go back and read more threads in this forum.

Now what do you have to post for yourself? :lol:

mickydoolittle
Jan 18th, 2004, 5:36 AM
Clink the link damnit!
http://www.dailypennsylvanian.com/vnews/display.v/ART/40079e52474fc

And this link too!
http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/7712934.htm

:evbat: heh heh heh :devsmo:

More evidence that religion is another avenue for ppl to really screw with the rest of the planet...no pun intended of course. :evil:

It's his supporters that make me really ill.:ohmy:

Defiant Noquisi
Jan 18th, 2004, 9:08 AM
Anybody who places themselves on the top of some kind of religious heiarchy is nothing more than the hypocrites that follow them. Doesnt their book have numerous statements about "humbling" oneself and "judge not lest ye be judged"? Not to mention that somewhere along the line, as they look upon someone they consider "lesser than" they forgot that they are not perfect and "without sin" either.

I suppose actually doin and living in their supposed beliefs they bandy about as an example for people to "witness the greatness" of organized religion would be far-fetched.

mickydoolittle
Mar 18th, 2004, 6:17 AM
What has Graham done to convince humanity that there are no evil intentions? Graham is human and there inherently flawed as being of ulterior motives.

Pssst.....$$$$$$

That was a hint.

dutchie
Mar 18th, 2004, 7:18 AM
What has Graham done to convince humanity that there are no evil intentions? Graham is human and there inherently flawed as being of ulterior motives.

Pssst.....$$$$$$

That was a hint.
NO, it's the jews that are behind the $$$$, aren't they?!? :rolling: