Good Bye and Good Ridance

[Death Rattle]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20041124/D86I9SPO0.html
Bye Bye lying Bush hater. :headbang:

[DontBeAfraid]

Rather made a mistake and owned up to it.....

Bush...... Uhm.... Well, Bush is Bush.....

[Death Rattle]

Rather made a mistake and owned up to it.....

Bush...... Uhm.... Well, Bush is Bush.....
Rather never owned up to it. He blamed it on bad sources.

[Emerald_Dragon]

he may have been setup by false documents. but the story still stands. W was allowed into the National Guard ahead of many other qualified candidates. the Lt. Governor of Texas already fessed up to it.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1999/05/24/60II/main48284.shtml
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Correspondent Dan Rather talks exclusively to former Texas House Speaker and Lt. Gov. Ben Barnes, a Democrat, about the role Barnes says he played in getting President George W. Bush into the Texas Air National Guard -- and why he now regrets it.
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Rather was just a smokescreen to misdirect viewers, a red herring, to throw their attention away from what transpired. Looks like you fell for it.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/1991885.stm
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One of America's foremost newscasters, Dan Rather of CBS, says the US media has stopped asking tough questions of the Bush administration since 11 September.
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And instead of focusing on who did what, when. Everyone's going, "typewriters of that time could not have produced that document". BS. Sounds pretty Rove-ian to me.

[MetalMilitia]

Rather never owned up to it. He blamed it on bad sources.

Oh man, that is so not what Bush did...

Bush never owned up the the bad intelligence on Iraq!!! He blamed it on bad sources....

...oh well, wait a minute....

Dan Rather apologized on National TV - and if you saw any of his election coverage, you would know even FOX and CNN said he did a good job. He made a few mistakes and jumped on some bad sources and intelligence - sorta liike TV stations giving florida to gore 4 years ago. They should all be fired right?

WHY don't you take a look at the man who did the same (cited bad sources) , but has spent nearly $200 billion, over 1000 american lives, 15,000 Iraqi Lives, and who some in the international community hate him more now than they hated Saddam.

And as far as I'm concerned, it's 1 down... two to go. Blitzer an d O'Reilly should be next.

And Emerald is right - he got benefits and special treatment regardless...

[Defiant Noquisi]

Rather never owned up to it. He blamed it on bad sources.

Bye Bye lying Bush hater.I can just imagine that you do not nor ever will see the complete stupidty of these statements.

[repentantsinner]

Do you honestly want somebody's carrer ruined because they spoke against bush? That would mean 47 or 48 % of the us poulation. Do you have an 18 year old son? wait for the draft. Wait for the dollar to be devalued. Wait to attack N. Korea or syria or I ran, wait for the US to become the black sheep of the world. Then lets hear you complain. :gtfo:

[substand]

i often get accused of changing the subject... but to change this from "good riddance to Rather" to "bush lied too" within 1 post is a quick change I'm not even fond of...

[DontBeAfraid]

Bye Bye lying Bush hater

didnt you read that? My post was right on subject.

[substand]

didnt you read that? My post was right on subject.

sorry, i thought that was his sig =)

[DontBeAfraid]

It might as well be.... lol

[Death Rattle]

I love this post because it really drags out all the bush bashers. I start with dan rather and in an instant it becomes a bush bashing convention. Brilliant. :jamn:

[Emerald_Dragon]

so you're saying you started this thread with a bush basher and you're surprised it brought out bush bashers? yep, you're brilliant.

[repentantsinner]

Emerald Dragon just pulled out a true jewel.

[Death Rattle]

so you're saying you started this thread with a bush basher and you're surprised it brought out bush bashers? yep, you're brilliant.
Wrong i simply started with a news article about dan rather. Everyone already knows how anti-bush he is. I accomplished what i set out to do. By exposing all the hardcore bush haters i can now create my ignore list. Therefore Brilliant! :nudge:

[DontBeAfraid]

oh no...... He is going to ignore me!!! whatever will I do?

[dutchie]

Tell a lie. Say how fond you are of geedubyah. :smokin:

[Defiant Noquisi]

So he comes here to create an ignore list. What a lofty purpose to join a group designed for debating so he can ignore the members.

Ignoramus Exaltus ~ how ever so enlightening.

Oh yes, did I mention that according to his birthday he is all of 15? :Llol: :gtfo:

I thought something smelled like CF around here but I was wrong. It's worse.

[Dead Man Walking]

Quite a Ruthless Crew. Arggg, Dost me smell a lynching from thee Crows Nest? Or shall He walk the plank.

For so many broad statements to cast so many aspersions at Bush, let's look at the responsibilty that Blather should have had when he went on the air with these alledged forged documents. Does anyone agree with a seasoned (and I mean Seasoned), reporter of his caliber to go live with a story of such enormous impact that Good Ole Dan would at least do his Homework? It almost seems like Dan was set up from being so lacadaisical in relying on so many others to provide him with copy for so many years. He fell for it Hook, Line, and Sinker. What ever happened to Rathers hard line approach to the news. I doubt seriously that Walter would have ever gone live with such a smelly fabrication. prime Time News reporting has turned into a propaganda machine for the Liberal Train of Zero Personal Responsibility that the aging Baby Boomers and their Children have fallen prey to.

[Death Rattle]

Quite a Ruthless Crew. Arggg, Dost me smell a lynching from thee Crows Nest? Or shall He walk the plank.

For so many broad statements to cast so many aspersions at Bush, let's look at the responsibilty that Blather should have had when he went on the air with these alledged forged documents. Does anyone agree with a seasoned (and I mean Seasoned), reporter of his caliber to go live with a story of such enormous impact that Good Ole Dan would at least do his Homework? It almost seems like Dan was set up from being so lacadaisical in relying on so many others to provide him with copy for so many years. He fell for it Hook, Line, and Sinker. What ever happened to Rathers hard line approach to the news. I doubt seriously that Walter would have ever gone live with such a smelly fabrication. prime Time News reporting has turned into a propaganda machine for the Liberal Train of Zero Personal Responsibility that the aging Baby Boomers and their Children have fallen prey to.
Finally someone with some common sense. Thank You. By the way DN don't believe everything you read. :grin

[Defiant Noquisi]

Quite a Ruthless Crew. Arggg, Dost me smell a lynching from thee Crows Nest? Or shall He walk the plank.LOL, marvelous! I am quite fascinated by pirate lore! So much so I "play" one in a medieval reenactment group. :D

Back on topic....nice post but I question the liberal angle. It seems these days, (well before Bush even, much before) that anyone saying something in the negative towards a Republican is labeled a liberal. Why is that?

I never paid much attention to Rather to know whether he was liberal or conservative myself but I most certainly agree he made a great faux paux regarding the "reliable" informant. He blew it, big time. Although his credibilty has sunk lower than Davey Jones locker, I do give the guy a nod for publically broadcasting it as well as a much needed apology.

I wish Bush would be just as forthcoming and with apology as Rather was. Until that time Ill be very happy to post goodbye and good riddance to him at the end of this turn myself.

I'd also like to see another Cronkite but I doubt there ever will be. Theres about as much chance of that happening as Bush and crew being factual before being forced to regarding the M.E. Id love to be proven wrong on either account.

[Defiant Noquisi]

By the way DN don't believe everything you read. :grinTo what are you refering to? Youre not very forthcoming about anything that would require some kind of back up are you?

[Dead Man Walking]

LOL, marvelous! I am quite fascinated by pirate lore! So much so I "play" one in a medieval reenactment group. :D

Back on topic....nice post but I question the liberal angle. It seems these days, (well before Bush even, much before) that anyone saying something in the negative towards a Republican is labeled a liberal. Why is that?

I never paid much attention to Rather to know whether he was liberal or conservative myself but I most certainly agree he made a great faux paux regarding the "reliable" informant. He blew it, big time. Although his credibilty has sunk lower than Davey Jones locker, I do give the guy a nod for publically broadcasting it as well as a much needed apology.

I wish Bush would be just as forthcoming and with apology as Rather was. Until that time Ill be very happy to post goodbye and good riddance to him at the end of this turn myself.

I'd also like to see another Cronkite but I doubt there ever will be. Theres about as much chance of that happening as Bush and crew being factual before being forced to regarding the M.E. Id love to be proven wrong on either account.

Indeed, Noquisi, I would truly enjoy seeing the caliber of another Cronkite appear to the airwaves of CBS, however I don't know of anyone in their youth that could even come close to filling the bill. There are many complicated Truths about the M.E. as well.

I also believe there are many definitions of Liberalizm as the degree of involvement would suggest. Some folks are deeply overwhelmed by the strength in others and as a result they disagree with many conservative ideas. They will find themselves leaning towards the misery of portions of the population, that for whatever reason, finds themselves mired in less than what they, as individuals, are capable of. The Deep Liberal will take up the cause to provide nurturing to this group, without a solution in mind. I think there are many moderate liberals, who see the err of D.L. but still cling to the idea that personal responsibility is not in there control and wish to blame the problems on someone else, again without a workable solution.

Just a couple of definitions, among many that I have contemplated over the years. :wink:

Now on a less serious note. I was captured by your Screen Name so I did a little research. You may have experienced this story already, but in case you haven't.

Noquisi and The Bird (http://www.manataka.org/page294.html)

Argg, Me Thinks Me might take a closer look at the deeds and words of this Crue before Me makes another opinion about such a raucus bunch. :toast:

[VegasRonin]

Dan Rather lost credibility with me when he interviewed Saddam. The interview was very weak and designed to only get ratings. I personally like O'Reily, although I don't agree with him all the time. I'm not crazy about Ultra Right or Left Wing media folks. That Blonde chic (Her name escapes me right now) that is FOX news commentator, is so far to the Right, she's a fuqin Nazi!

[MoonlapseV]

Greta Van Sustren?

[Emerald_Dragon]

Anne Coulter? *lol*

[VegasRonin]

Greta Van Sustren? No, not Greta. Greta's an anchor with her own show. This lady is a commentator, basically a paid guest.

[VegasRonin]

Anne Coulter? *lol* Yeah, that's her. She's a psycho nazi chic! You can tell she'd prefer the world to be all blonde, blue eyed people. She can barely hide the fact when she speaks. She makes me sick!

[substand]

It does seem strange to ignore those whose opinions differ from your own. Indeed, there is no better way to foster learning and knowledge.

I thought Greta Van Sustren was supposed to be fairly liberal... and Anne Coulter is hot.

[Emerald_Dragon]

>and Anne Coulter is hot.

that she is. i started reading her stuff and realized....i could never date her or anyone like her.

she's extreme. i daresay, as narrow-minded as others in the other extreme. she's a poster girl [:grin, pinup] for conservatives. a cheerleader to the shallow, testosterone-driven, libido-based POVs, IMO. makes me wish i were more conservative just to agree with her. JK, of course.

[Defiant Noquisi]

Yeah, that's her. She's a psycho nazi chic! You can tell she'd prefer the world to be all blonde, blue eyed people. She can barely hide the fact when she speaks. She makes me sick!Im with you on Mizz Coulternazi. She has got to be the most totalitarian psychobitch conservanazi there is.

[Defiant Noquisi]

Indeed, Noquisi, I would truly enjoy seeing the caliber of another Cronkite appear to the airwaves of CBS, however I don't know of anyone in their youth that could even come close to filling the bill. There are many complicated Truths about the M.E. as well. I dont watch CBS, gave that up aloooooong time ago. I have enjoyed Brokaw but now hell be gone too. Im not so sure Williams will be able to grow into it in the caliber that Brokaw did.


The Deep Liberal will take up the cause to provide nurturing to this group, without a solution in mind. I think there are many moderate liberals, who see the err of D.L. but still cling to the idea that personal responsibility is not in there control and wish to blame the problems on someone else, again without a workable solution.Interesting and thought provoking. Many things these days would have a much better outcome from a moderate standpoint rather than right or left. My brother has tried to convince himself and me that I am conservative. I think he has finally given up, especially now that I live in a liberal state. I finally told him Im a moderate with liberal tendancies. I could almost imagine his bile rising.


Now on a less serious note. I was captured by your Screen Name so I did a little research. You may have experienced this story already, but in case you haven't.... Yes I have read it. Its a little on the twinkie/new ager side of the fence. Its one of the old stories but its been tweaked a bit.


Argg, Me Thinks Me might take a closer look at the deeds and words of this Crue before Me makes another opinion about such a raucus bunch. :toast:Yes, we are a lively bunch. Just step right up and join this rig of shipmates!

[Marajadex]

Any opinions on Anderson Cooper?
I like his style of toung in cheek presentation.

[Hate_Republicrats]

Bye Bye lying Bush hater. :headbang:
Somebody who is a part owner of a ranch with Donald Rumsfield probably is not much of a Bush hater. He is just another corporate controlled media whore spreading government lies and propagnda like the rest of them.