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prezhorusin04
Dec 8th, 2004, 5:04 AM
The Satanic Christians of the USA
11/08/2004 12:08
Which Bible do they bash? Not mine

Between a cult of Satanic devil-worshippers and a group of Christians, which of the two would condone an act of mass murder, torture, rape, destruction of homes, wanton vandalism and acts of terrorism? The former, or the latter?

Anywhere else in the world, it would be considered that only those who walk in legion with Satan would or could support such shocking acts of butchery. Not so in the USA apparently, where the so-called Christian Fundamentalists handed George Bush the presidency on a silver platter, complete with a pat on the back and a reassuring wink. More of the same, George, more of the same.

However, what "Christians" are these and whose Bible are they bashing?

Christianity stands for the values preached by Jesus Christ, which, like other main religions, are based upon the principles of peace, love, tolerance, dialogue and fundamentally, the respect for life, property and the basic laws which govern mankind. The main religions are guardians of the
unwritten bond which defines human decency and that which is considered as unacceptable.

In simple terms, easily understood by a homo sapiens sapiens who lived in islands of civilization among the wilderness, the division between these two precepts was described as the realm of God and the realm of the Devil, Heaven and Hell, Good and Evil.

Since the writing of the Scriptures, Mankind has periodically misused, abused and disused the original objectives of the word, namely to provide an explanation of the unknown and more importantly, rules within which Mankind should live.

Few civilizations have been guiltless in this impulsive act of blasphemy, mixed with the temptation to mix Church and State to strengthen the latter, raising religious banners which in many cases were historically more powerful than national ones, due to the trans-national nature of religion.

Yet today, two thousand years after the Passion of Christ and fifteen hundred years after the death of Muhammed, we continue to see acts of depravity and blasphemy justified under religious banners on a scale as primary and warped as that used five hundred years ago by the Inquisition.

One such example was the blasphemy of the Taleban regime, which usurped the Noble Qu'ran and substituted its core message with a mixture of Pashtun lore and extremist Islamist law. The result: an insult and a direct attack against Islam itself. Similarly, the so-called Christian Fundamentalists in the United States of America, whose warped and blasphemic view of their religion supports the acts of the Bush regime.

The Christian Fundamentalists of America are the mirror image of the Taleban, both of which insult and deny their Gods.

How can any Christian, in whatever shape or form, support an act of murder, much less mass murder? How can any Christian turn a blind eye to acts of torture? How can any Christian accept an act of rape? Did these fundamentalist Christians in the USA know when they voted for Bush that a substantial number of sisters, wives and mothers of men wanted by the USA in Iraq were raped in custody and rather than abort or face the humility of their condition, meted out by the soldiers of Bush, preferred to commit suicide?

Did these Fundamentalist Christians know that Bush's military forces targeted civilian infra-structures so that rebuilding contracts worth billions of dollars could be handed to Cheney's friends at Halliburton without even the decency of a tender?

In targeting civilian infra-structures, we are speaking about power plants, which keep babies alive in winter, we are speaking about water supply systems, we are speaking about electricity units, we are speaking about schools, we are speaking about hospitals.

Where in the Christian faith does it state that it is acceptable to destroy such structures? Where in the Christian religion does it state that a soldier should open fire on civilians, including children, yelling "Burn, you mother-f.. Burn"?

Where in the Christian religion is it stated that a soldier can stick his automatic weapon in the face of a frightened six-year-old boy and scream: "Get ya f. hands up, now?"

No, it is no good to simply deny everything and turn to the cross. Such instances are documented and recorded. They happened and continue to happen and will continue to happen, so long as Bush and his evil regime, which hoodwinked their people with ludicrous tales of fear, which made fools out of America's good people with their lies, continues in power. The good Christians of the united States of America have just given a four-year lease of life to this Satanistic regime.

As everyone now knows and as George Bush himself now admits, Iraq and 9/11 were unconnected, wholly and totally unconnected. Saddam Hussein is not Bin Laden, indeed they hate each other and Islamism detests Saddam Hussein as being not Islamist enough. Therefore any connection between Islamist terrorism and Iraq is in plain English, and I apologize, bullshit.

Yet this bullshit sees US troops, every day, slaughtering Iraqis, including women and children and let it be said that if any Iraqi men are resisting this illegal invasion (which breaks the UN Charter and also breached the Geneva Convention, on many counts), are only doing what any patriotic US citizen would do if his country was invaded.

Therefore every time that the Christian Fundamentalists of America enter into a Church and are faced by a barrage of blasphemy connecting Christ or Christianity to Bush, may they choke on the Host if they believe it.

The Christian Fundamentalists of the United States of America are, at best, a well-meaning slice of the population which allowed itself to be misled and deceived by its collective ignorance and bloody-mindedness. At worst, they are a gullible clique of sniveling sycophants who cow-tow to authority, whatever it is and whatever its precepts, listening blindly to the criminals who burn their money every month in acts of depravity, the hard-earned money which they donate to their "churches", so often controlled by masters of mass hysteria who once again have mastered the gift of mixing religion and politics.

The Christian religion has nothing to do with what Bush is doing abroad. The Christian religion never did, does not and never will, condone acts of murder, condone acts of torture, condone acts of rape, condone invasion of property, condone acts of disrespect for human life.

Iraq is not about 9/11, it is about oil and a geo-strategic position because Saudi Arabia is becoming too unstable. Afghanistan was not about bin Laden, it was about the pipeline for gas from Turkmenistan and Iran is (or will be) about the connectivity of the oil and gas pipelines, greatly benefiting the corporate elite which gravitates around the White House, in the figures of Messrs. Cheney and Rumsfeld.

Those who wish to disbelieve and cocoon themselves in a nice, cozy, protective environment, believing that Mr. President knows what he is doing, will soon see the errors in their judgement. Mr. President, in this case, does what he is told.

And the forces behind Mr. President are not Christian or Islamic or anything else remotely religious. They are guided by greed, by the lust and thirst and quest for power, in short, they are guided by the precepts upon which Satan acts and they are wily enough to have duped the good Christians of the United States of America hook, line and sinker.

They have taken these good people, they have insulted their beliefs and they have manipulated them, through fear.

To conclude, a message from my friend of 26 years, Ali, who I spent three years with at University, whose son Rashid, six years old, was in Baghdad in the opening days of George Bush's Shock and Awe campaign.

He told me, among many tears staining the writing paper, that his son Rashid had been killed as he stayed with his grandparents in Baghdad, at the beginning of the horrific bombing campaign unleashed by the Bush regime, supported by the fundamentalist Christians of the USA.

He had been found by his grandmother in the ruins of her home, with a gaping hole in his abdomen through which blood and faeces seeped. Knowing his condition, he bravely looked into his grandmother's eyes and said: "Grandmother, please tell daddy that I was brave and didn't cry".

Then he died. Six years old.

How can any Christian anywhere on earth say that he supports such Satanistic acts of depravity? These are not the soldiers of Christ. They are the legions of Baal. And the Christian Fundamentalists of the United States of America, in voting in favour of the regime which perpetrated these evil actions, are as guilty as the demons which performed them.

Call yourselves anything you like, but do not insult Christianity and please do not insult the Christians who respect the fundamental principles of the religion, by calling yourselves Christians. Instead, call yourselves a cult of Satan worshippers, or the like.

And be ashamed of what you have done, namely supporting a regime of mass murderers and war criminals.
http://english.pravda.ru/mailbox/22/101/399/14550_Christians.html

RebornXmetalhead
Dec 8th, 2004, 6:19 AM
Again, somebody's generalising.

Nice attempt at bashing Christians, but not all Christians are like that. Well, very few aren't. Christianity has turned into a plague, where its followers become judgmental pricks, as they sound like they have authority and think everything else is satanic and must be killed (totally the opposite of Christ's teachings).

I am a Christian. Do I support Bush? Hell no! Would Kerry have been a better president? It doesn't matter who's elected, there is a plan and it must be done. No matter who's "in charge", they (the people behind the scenes) are in control of it all.

Please note that non-Christians have voted for Bush aswell.

But yes, people mix politics with religion and use it as an excuse to eliminate a country saying "they're evil" heh... it sucks.

dutchie
Dec 8th, 2004, 8:18 AM
I must admit that I thought your article was a bit one-sided, Prez. Although I agree that it somehow does seem like all fundy christians support Mr. Bush, there are of course always large numbers of exceptions. RXM justly defends this POV.

zonmoy
Dec 8th, 2004, 6:41 PM
The Christian Fundamentalists of America are the mirror image of the Taleban, both of which insult and deny their Gods.


Is it that or are they showing the true faces of their gods.

Sweetwilliam
Feb 14th, 2008, 8:57 PM
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All of Christianity have their part to play in this great deception that started in the garden.
All that call themselves by the title Christian are deceived by their God.
God is a title and there are many Gods.
The deceived Christian believe that have the one and only true God.
What they don't get is what the great apostle told them in 2 Cor.4:4 that Satan is that God.
Just as they read Romans 2:13 and over look the clear written words of warning they are deceived by their religion.
This is to their shame and this deception will soon be removed.

SweetWilliam

johnb1
Feb 14th, 2008, 9:08 PM
SO! the true Religion must be James 1:27 It is really inevitable now in our TIMES it will be divided into two at the end Good and Evil. yup it is clear written Matthew 24:4. it is started
up-high in the heavens when Lucifer turn into Satan.

deception is part now in our life everyday but when you obey what All the Teachings of Jesus Christ you will be aware of it and sense it easily.

Traveler
Feb 15th, 2008, 1:13 AM
Judgment always falls on the generation that is ready for it.

I have also observed that there is something fundamentally wrong with the American Christian community. They have chosen the mammon over God. They have served two masters and used the one to justify the other.

It is because of this that the Americans are coming under judgment and the greatest nation on earth is set to collapse. The earth is not growing old and getting tired. The tools of God is nature and nature is getting geared up for a whomping.

But you who live in other nations do not rejoice over this but take it to hart. If the most powerful nation in human history is not spared for their sins then what makes you think that you will be treated any differently?

By the time all this is over the bull shit will be gone and what is left of the church will be that which it is supposed to be, not what it is now.

Sweetwilliam
Feb 16th, 2008, 9:14 PM
What I have found is that the true Messiah does not know the Church.
Since He taught the same message as all the prophets before Him. He past those same teachings on to His apostles, and there is a big difference between what the Church teaches and the message of the prophets and apostles.
The Scriptures state that the Creator is not the author of this type confusion, it comes from the enemy.
Besides why would the prophets write that in the Last Days there would be a work started that would teach the truth once again if that truth was found in any of todays Churches.
And which one of the many brands or denomination of this religion would you say teaches anything that resembles the message of the prophets?


SW

johnb1
Feb 16th, 2008, 9:23 PM
just like the Prophet Jonas? or Apostle Paul?

Traveler
Feb 17th, 2008, 12:51 AM
What I have found is that the true Messiah does not know the Church.
Since He taught the same message as all the prophets before Him. He past those same teachings on to His apostles, and there is a big difference between what the Church teaches and the message of the prophets and apostles.
The Scriptures state that the Creator is not the author of this type confusion, it comes from the enemy.
Besides why would the prophets write that in the Last Days there would be a work started that would teach the truth once again if that truth was found in any of todays Churches.
And which one of the many brands or denomination of this religion would you say teaches anything that resembles the message of the prophets?
SW

There is a growing out of church movement developing. The organize denominations are going to be left behind as obsolete organizations. The real Christians will be found in the streets with no organizational covering of a worldly nature.

johnb1
Feb 17th, 2008, 4:20 AM
There is a growing out of church movement developing. The organize denominations are going to be left behind as obsolete organizations. The real Christians will be found in the streets with no organizational covering of a worldly nature.

The TRUE Church is already & always been existing a very long time but because
SATAN can use also the BIBLE. many have been deceive always but as long we are all living there is a chance to find the TRUTH JER 6:16.:cool03:

Acts 7:37-38

37"This is that Moses who told the Israelites, 'God will send you a prophet like me from your own people.'[a] 38He was in the assembly in the desert, with the angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai, and with our fathers; and he received living words to pass on to us.

Ezekiel 34:5

5 So they were scattered because there was no shepherd, and when they were scattered they became food for all the wild animals.

Amos 9:11

11 "In that day I will restore
David's fallen tent.
I will repair its broken places,
restore its ruins,
and build it as it used to be,




1 Timothy 3:13-17

13Those who have served well gain an excellent standing and great assurance in their faith in Christ Jesus.

14Although I hope to come to you soon, I am writing you these instructions so that, 15if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God's household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth. 16Beyond all question, the mystery of godliness is great:
He[a] appeared in a body,[b]
was vindicated by the Spirit,
was seen by angels,
was preached among the nations,
was believed on in the world,
was taken up in glory.

Nu Kua
Feb 17th, 2008, 9:16 AM
The Christian religion has nothing to do with what Bush is doing abroad. The Christian religion never did, does not and never will, condone acts of murder, condone acts of torture, condone acts of rape, condone invasion of property, condone acts of disrespect for human life.

Agreed- and for Bushco to claim Christianity and the call of God upon their actions makes me sick.
If I was a Christian (a real Christian) I'd be up in arms over that. Hell, I am up in arms over that, anyway.

But haven't invaders and war mongers always claimed they had God on their side?
Yes- because people see God as they want to see God. Yet what is truly "God" never changes.


According to Islam, the deepest pit in hell is reserved for the Hypocrites. Perhaps when Bushco et all finally crosses over, they'll accidentally slip into the Islamic hell and go there.

MaximumPain
Feb 17th, 2008, 10:18 AM
To conclude, a message from my friend of 26 years, Ali, who I spent three years with at University, whose son Rashid, six years old, was in Baghdad in the opening days of George Bush's Shock and Awe campaign.

He told me, among many tears staining the writing paper, that his son Rashid had been killed as he stayed with his grandparents in Baghdad, at the beginning of the horrific bombing campaign unleashed by the Bush regime, supported by the fundamentalist Christians of the USA.

He had been found by his grandmother in the ruins of her home, with a gaping hole in his abdomen through which blood and faeces seeped. Knowing his condition, he bravely looked into his grandmother's eyes and said: "Grandmother, please tell daddy that I was brave and didn't cry".

Then he died. Six years old.

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This made me cry

If you voted for Bush in 04 you sanctioned that killing and all the other needless deaths caused by this war. Who among you would not be in the street fighting and killing over this if this had been your child? I know what my reaction would be if that had been my 6 year old son hell Id even be willing to do a suicide attack over that. Now how many people have had their children killed in this war and what do you think there attitudes are now? Do you think they would like to kill there occupiers and the murderers of their children?

And it is about oil don't kid yourselves just look at the record profits. Anyone take an economics course? If you have then you are familier with the law of supply and demand. The demand for oil is up and look the supply is down with most of the Iraqi oil out of production nice sure wish I had a large investment in Saudi oil I could be raking it in right now. Know anyone like that maybe the Bush crime family and his top supporters.

As for the religion part that is just a tool of control something to get you to do and support things you would not other wise do or support. Both sides in this conflict use it to get people to kill or at least look the other way while someone else does the killing for them. One of the things that has kept me away from church in the last few years was my outrage that people would be so ready to support the killing and buy the obvious lies because George Bush is a Christian and he talks to God. I should say that I dont fault God or the Bible just the bastards that use it the way they do and the people out there that refuse to think for themselfs even though God gave us the ability to do so.

Please God bring peace for all the people of the world.

Nasik
Feb 17th, 2008, 10:34 AM
It makes me so sad.

I saw a documentary called "Jesus Camp" which basically covers what Prez has said. There is a large Evangelistic movement in the US to make one nation under one God, their God, which of course is the right God.

This "camp" had a large cut out of George Bush, life sized, that they put up in front of the congregation and prayed to. It was sickening.

These people support Bush and want Israel to start WWIII - because to them it's all about end-days, revelations and the second coming. In their twisted minds, they should bring about as much destruction and chaos as possible and hasten this second coming.

I wonder what Jesus would really think? I doubt he would think very highly about it. Bush says he prays every day and God tells him what to do. That should make everyone very afraid.

There's not much difference between these radical Christian groups and satanism, except perhaps in satanism, sex isn't such a big deal.

I'm Christian but I was raised a Catholic but have since been disillusioned with that church and most churches I have seen since. Now I don't know what to do. I can't abide by an organized religion - any one, that supports war and death. Personally, I doubt God would abide by it either.

MaximumPain
Feb 17th, 2008, 5:31 PM
It makes me so sad.

I saw a documentary called "Jesus Camp" which basically covers what Prez has said. There is a large Evangelistic movement in the US to make one nation under one God, their God, which of course is the right God.

This "camp" had a large cut out of George Bush, life sized, that they put up in front of the congregation and prayed to. It was sickening. So they have made Bush an Idol that they worship!



These people support Bush and want Israel to start WWIII - because to them it's all about end-days, revelations and the second coming. In their twisted minds, they should bring about as much destruction and chaos as possible and hasten this second coming.

That right there should disqualify anyone from having a finger on the button, if God wants to end the world something tells me he or she wont need our help thank you!



I wonder what Jesus would really think? I doubt he would think very highly about it. Bush says he prays every day and God tells him what to do. That should make everyone very afraid.

There's not much difference between these radical Christian groups and satanism, except perhaps in satanism, sex isn't such a big deal.

I'm Christian but I was raised a Catholic but have since been disillusioned with that church and most churches I have seen since. Now I don't know what to do. I can't abide by an organized religion - any one, that supports war and death. Personally, I doubt God would abide by it either.

If this God does support this bullshit then its not the same God I pray to and I want no part of his heaven.

johnb1
Feb 17th, 2008, 8:46 PM
The Real Good Changes must start always in our own-self inner and outer appearance no hiding lies anymore because in this days the TIME is very harsh and Important to all of us

Sweetwilliam
May 14th, 2008, 9:21 PM
http://www.yahweh.com/booklets/Prayers/prayers.htm




SweetWilliam

Assassin X
May 14th, 2008, 10:35 PM
I stopped reading the first post after I seen it was way to generalized.

BTW that Jesus Camp is junk. I already could tell you God frowns upon that. They do some extreme shit there.

Traveler
May 16th, 2008, 2:00 AM
In North America the church has been corrupted from within which is far more damaging than outright persecution.

It is interesting where all those tornados are springing up. At least with a tornado you can duck for cover which makes for a good warning. But warnings do not last forever.