Friend or Foe?

[rapture]

America's representation of democracy is interfering and trying to control or destroy the affairs of other nations?
This kind of democracy will bring war -

[dutchie]

You should've added more options, like "none of the above"...

Now I can't vote..

[rapture]

You should've added more options, like "none of the above"...

Now I can't vote..


Ooops...yet... if you don't see a solid friendship nor a nuclear war brimming, what do you see for the future of these two nations? Think on this, The Ukrain Elections? Does it matter which candidate wins?:yikes: Either way major friction is generated between the two nuclear countries.... more than previously.

[VegasRonin]

I'm with Dutchie. Neither! We'll end up joining forces to defeat China in the years ahead.

[lotrfan55345]

Poor China...

I dont like either of the choices but the closest one to my scenario is the nuclear war option.

[dutchie]

Nah... If Russia or the USA wanted to go nuclear, they would have done so a long time ago... No, for both parties (oil!) there's far more benefit to be gained in lukewarm relations.

China has become SO western way of life horny, I don't think a real threat is coming from there. And China will tone down N. Korea as well.

We'll have to see the truth here: the real threat for the years to come is fundy radical muslims. They are filled with a bloody hate up to a degree where it's becoming surreal. Terror attacks - with or without suitcase nukes - will become the exclusive fashion.

[Marajadex]

Hmmmm...

How about an option something like...

The Enemy of My Enemy is My Friend...

:blazing:

[Skippy]

Nah... If Russia or the USA wanted to go nuclear, they would have done so a long time ago... No, for both parties (oil!) there's far more benefit to be gained in lukewarm relations.

I would also like to point out that they are both global competitors, like Coke and Pepsi, and it is in their best interest to have at least superficial good relations.



China has become SO western way of life horny, I don't think a real threat is coming from there. And China will tone down N. Korea as well.

China has to do what's best for China. They've got the real hard on for Taiwan, but for some reason the US wants to become involved in it. If China could work out a Hong Kong comprimise with Taiwan, and the US would stay out of it, then this source of tension would go away.

As for Korea, at some point the Korean War will have to end. It continues to be the longest truce in modern history. North Korea has no intention of aggressing on the US or any of its other neighbours right now, and if the do set their sights on any direction, it will be into South Korea.




We'll have to see the truth here: the real threat for the years to come is fundy radical muslims. They are filled with a bloody hate up to a degree where it's becoming surreal. Terror attacks - with or without suitcase nukes - will become the exclusive fashion.

My observation has been that there are many people all over the world who are filled with hatred. You can see it in the west manifesting itself as road rage, mall rage, etc, as well as some bery angry people. It appears more to be an anger issue than a hatred issue, and the difference is that the Eastern Muslims have focused that anger onto a common enemy, with their leadership supporting this focal point. In the West, where we try to discourage racism and religious intolerance, our focal points are more scattered and less cohesive, yet we still see them in our gangs, religious groups, etc.

Terror attacks will continue, but we must keep an objective eye on those attacks and realise that there is no real difference between what the US did to Fallujah, and what any terrorist could do to an American city with some well placed explosives.

[dutchie]

China has become SO western way of life horny, I don't think a real threat is coming from there.

To make my point about the first part of that sentence more clear, there's a cute link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4090741.stm

[Wednesday]

My observation has been that there are many people all over the world who are filled with hatred. You can see it in the west manifesting itself as road rage, mall rage, etc, as well as some bery angry people. It appears more to be an anger issue than a hatred issue, and the difference is that the Eastern Muslims have focused that anger onto a common enemy, with their leadership supporting this focal point. In the West, where we try to discourage racism and religious intolerance, our focal points are more scattered and less cohesive, yet we still see them in our gangs, religious groups, etc.

i think another factor to the anger fog around us, is the anonymity of internet communications

i play online video games and am active in the gaming community, i see young people using these games as a social network, im glad my mom forced me to go to high school dances, we were forced to deal with social anxieties face to face

young people in north america are not being taught how to interact with each other properly now and there is a general lack of respect for humanity

[dutchie]

Not being taught how to interact with other people - and you've justly made that observation - is not the same thing as being brought up (read brainwashed) into a state of utter hatred towards entire nations, as we see happening right now among fundamentalists and religious extremists.

Do you think anyone could talk you into killing someone else by commiting suicide?!? Personally I find this such a surreal notion, I could not even begin to imagine how this would be! Your hatred must really be profound to want to die for it...

[lotrfan55345]

I agree with dutchie. Lots of Chinese seem to aspire to be at the same "level" (standard of living I guess) as the "American dream". Most Chinese aspire to have the nice suburban house with two cars in the garage. A lot of Chinese also want to visit/immigrate to the United States.