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MetalMilitia
Dec 25th, 2004, 10:49 PM
Asteroid risk in 2029 sparks 'yellow alert'

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A graphic created by NASA's Near Earth Object Program shows the orbits of the asteroid 2004 MN4 and Earth's orbit, as well as the paths of Mercury and Venus.A graphic created by NASA's Near Earth Object Program shows the orbits of the asteroid 2004 MN4 and Earth's orbit, as well as the paths of Mercury and Venus.

The chances of a devastating asteroid strike in the year 2029 were raised to an unprecedented 1 in 45 as of Saturday, but the perceived risk is likely to be eliminated as astronomers get more detail about the object's orbit. (Asteroid Impacts : http://www.armageddononline.org/asteroid.php )

Asteroid 2004 MN4 is thought to be about 1,300 feet (400 meters) long. That's not large enough to create a mass-extinction event (ELE : http://www.armageddononline.org/extinction_event.php ) , like the one that scientists say contributed to the demise of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. But if the asteroid hit the wrong place at the wrong time, it could cause a giant tsunami ( Mega Tsunami : http://www.armageddononline.org/tsunami.php ) wave or deliver a nuclear-scale blast. (Nuke : http://www.armageddononline.org/nuke.php )

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Components/Photos/040104/asteroid_tease.jpg

Fortunately, that's a big "if." There have been only a limited number of sightings of 2004 MN4, said Donald Yeomans, manager of the Near Earth Object Program at NASA?s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena. As a result, astronomers have to provide for a wide margin of error in plotting the asteroid's future orbit, and that's the main reason why they see a slight chance of a collision on Friday, April 13, 2029.

In past cases, such chances have been eliminated as further observations are made. In 2004 MN4's case, the chances of a collision were heightened somewhat between Thursday and Saturday, from 1 in 300 to about 1 in 45.

That led astronomers to give 2004 MN4 a rating of 4 on the 10-point Torino Impact Hazard Scale used by astronomers to predict asteroid or comet impacts. No previously observed asteroid has been graded higher than 1.

A category 4 risk is given to "close approaches by objects that have higher collision chances than Earth typically experiences over a few decades," according to NASA's description of Torino ratings. Categories 2, 3 and 4 correspond to a "yellow" alert.

"These are objects for which refinement of the orbit is of high priority," NASA says. Again, figuring out the precise orbit is likely to eliminate the risk entirely.

?This is not a problem for anyone and it shouldn?t be a concern to anyone, but whenever we post one of these things and ... somebody gets a hold of it, it just gets crazy,? Yeomans said Thursday.

The asteroid was discovered in June and rediscovered this month. Its estimated size has been inferred from its brightness, which assumes that its reflectivity is similar to other asteroids that have been observed. At about 1,320 feet in length, it would have about 1,600 megatons of energy, Yeomans said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6751433/

1in45? Thats pretty damn small in cosmic terms. Too bad we have lots of waiting to do.

Brandon101
Dec 25th, 2004, 11:41 PM
I'm tickled we have a long time to wait, that's more time to do something about it. But our best line of defense (NASA) gets absolutely no funding whatsoever for projects to deflect shit that's going to careen into us at 100 times the speed of sound.

hawkfolyfe
Dec 26th, 2004, 8:45 PM
well actually is 1 - 300 chance see (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-12/26/content_2382794.htm)

RavenWhitefang
Dec 26th, 2004, 11:04 PM
Actually, looking at the JPL/NASA java program (http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/db?name=2004+MN4) and playing it through, it wont come as near as ppl think. MM's graphic although striking, only shows in 1D. The April Deadline shows a distance of 0.104 AU, close, but no cigar.

This was the closest one this year VW14 2004 (http://forums.armageddononline.org/showthread.php?t=3652&highlight=14) that just passed us, and no one said anything about it. Not much farther off than the MN4.

Hvyarms
Dec 27th, 2004, 2:23 AM
well actually is 1 - 300 chance see

Unfortunately it is now a 1 in 45 chance. It started as a 1 in 300 chance and they just upgraded it to 1 in 45. It was the first to ever be a rating 2 on the T scale, now its up to a rating of 4.

Hopefully through further analysis the risk is lowered, if not then we might be in for some trouble.

As the article states, the asteroid is too small to be a "Global" killer. If it hit it would cause a mega-tsunami most likely or a nuclear size blast if it didn't hit an ocean.

Also, as for the nasa website, this is where the information comes from hehe. They only can estimate things based on the information they punch into their computers =). As they gather info we will see the demo change. ATM it isnt updated and they also have more information to gather.

At this point we wait and see how the rating goes, hopefully, and most likely it will have its rating lowered.

White Knight
Dec 27th, 2004, 2:27 AM
It's nowheres near an extinction level asteroid, it will just destroy a small city. So why is everyone so worried? It's barely larger than the one that hit Russia in 1908.

Cpt.Shrap
Dec 27th, 2004, 5:56 AM
it will have devistating effects to the earth if it hits... Also, why in the hell would anyone try to cause pannic 20 years in advance? Its 20 years away, to say it has a 1-45 chance to hit, is almost reassurance that it will hit.. :alcoholic

White Knight
Dec 27th, 2004, 9:01 PM
it will have devistating effects to the earth if it hits... Also, why in the hell would anyone try to cause pannic 20 years in advance? Its 20 years away, to say it has a 1-45 chance to hit, is almost reassurance that it will hit.. :alcoholic

That's not true according to the article. Yes, it will level a small city and cost billions in damage. But "devistating effects to the [entire] Earth"? Not a chance.

Hvyarms
Dec 28th, 2004, 12:10 AM
As expected, all threat Ruled out.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6751433/

ALIENTheorist
Dec 31st, 2004, 7:28 PM
I believe this astroid might be a little late...
(I think it's ganna happen before than...)

Bigsky770
Jan 28th, 2005, 9:35 PM
Computer model predicts 150 sq. mile asteroid to hit earth in 65 years – wipe out human civilization like that of Dinosaurs

Soren Hazarika, Special Correspondent
January 18, 2005

According to some computer models an early indication is given that an asteroid is headed towards the earth that may crush on earth’s surface in the year 2070 or earlier.

The data received is vague and is yet to be confirmed but the size and shape of the series of asteroids coming earth’s way is very scary.

Asteroids are rocky and metallic objects that orbit the Sun but are too small to be considered planets.

Some consider the Asteroids as part of a exploded planet. Some believe that these are parts of solar system that could not form a planet. Most Asteroids are in the Asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter orbit.

Many of these Asteroids sometimes come from other solar systems and even other Galaxies. That is when traditional Asteroid models fail. According to scientists in Delhi, the initial projected model though not confirmed shows that the Asteroids are not from Solar System and are coming a large cluster.

These Asteroids will accelerate after entering our Solar System and them strike within 5 years. Once more data is available, we will keep you posted on the same. Sources tell us that Indian Space Research Organization has been notified of this computer model results. Once we obtain more information, we will inform you.

From this LINK:
http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/01-18a-05.asp

Don't yah just LOVE good news? (sic)

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ALIENTheorist
Feb 24th, 2005, 9:36 PM
interesting Joe thanks for the info this is great!!!
and you showed so prefectly how we can not keep track of every object in the sky, meaning there is always a danger...but lets not worry it nothing huge has happened since we can count!

Danzaman123
Feb 25th, 2005, 12:27 PM
Ive read up alot on it and all the experts say "It won't hit". It'll be a good day to look forward to 'cos it will probably be visible to the naked eye! Grab you're binoculars anyway and cameras. If it did hit then it could destroy something as big as a large city. It's 3 football pitches big. I hope, if i were to hit, it don't land in the ocean, i don't wanna drown to death!

But anyway i aint worried about it, itll probably miss. 22,600 miles isnt much in space but still is far enough away i think. :indec: :amaz:

Danzaman123
Feb 25th, 2005, 12:31 PM
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Don't yah just [B]LOVE good news? (sic)

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Do we actually ever get any???

stewey
Feb 25th, 2005, 5:34 PM
22600 miles is a ways, but it will be a hell of a cool site in the night sky.