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MetalMilitia
Jan 28th, 2005, 11:23 AM
YOU THINK THEY WILL SHOW THIS ONE ON FOX?

Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's president

Ben Aris in Berlin and Duncan Campbell in Washington
Saturday September 25, 2004
The Guardian

George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.

The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.

The evidence has also prompted one former US Nazi war crimes prosecutor to argue that the late senator's action should have been grounds for prosecution for giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

The debate over Prescott Bush's behaviour has been bubbling under the surface for some time. There has been a steady internet chatter about the "Bush/Nazi" connection, much of it inaccurate and unfair. But the new documents, many of which were only declassified last year, show that even after America had entered the war and when there was already significant information about the Nazis' plans and policies, he worked for and profited from companies closely involved with the very German businesses that financed Hitler's rise to power. It has also been suggested that the money he made from these dealings helped to establish the Bush family fortune and set up its political dynasty.

Remarkably, little of Bush's dealings with Germany has received public scrutiny, partly because of the secret status of the documentation involving him. But now the multibillion dollar legal action for damages by two Holocaust survivors against the Bush family, and the imminent publication of three books on the subject are threatening to make Prescott Bush's business history an uncomfortable issue for his grandson, George W, as he seeks re-election.

While there is no suggestion that Prescott Bush was sympathetic to the Nazi cause, the documents reveal that the firm he worked for, Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH), acted as a US base for the German industrialist, Fritz Thyssen, who helped finance Hitler in the 1930s before falling out with him at the end of the decade. The Guardian has seen evidence that shows Bush was the director of the New York-based Union Banking Corporation (UBC) that represented Thyssen's US interests and he continued to work for the bank after America entered the war.

FULL STORY : http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html

Severian
Jan 28th, 2005, 11:34 AM
How is this Bush's fault? Is this part of the grand plot to bring down Bush with sins that are not even his?

Well, obviously if you own stock in a foreign country that has declared war on your own country you have the right to sell it as it is your private and personal assets. Seeing that the socialists would have taken it anyway once sold, what is the point? Is this truly high treason?

John Kerry is directly involved with giving "aid and comfort" to the enemy during the 'Vietnam' years. Do we see people trying to hang him?

MetalMilitia
Jan 28th, 2005, 11:37 AM
Where did I say it was his fault?

If my grandfather ahd profited from the nazis, would you think differently of me? If I went on to become the leader of the free world, would you think differently of me?

Just history you don't learn in school.

prezhorusin04
Jan 28th, 2005, 11:43 AM
Honestly Metal, if you became leader of the free world, i probably would see you differently if you're grandfather funded Hitler. And your father was head of the CIA, President of Eli Lilly drugs, Vice President and then a failed president who is a war monger obsessed with this "new world order". Not to mention if you were a backwards numb-nutz like Bush jr. Yes, i probably would see you differently and hold your grandfather and fathers sins against you. Especially if you stole two elections and liked to flash satanic hand gestures at your inauguration..:)

Severian
Jan 28th, 2005, 11:45 AM
^ ^ ^ ^
Hard-Core leftist with no proof to support his claim.

MetalMilitia
Jan 28th, 2005, 11:52 AM
Me, or Prez? Cause I think this article settles all the "internet rumours" about Prescott Bush at LEAST dealing with them, and violating the Trading with the Enemy Act.

Prez may be a bit extreme, but denying the fact that the Bush family benefitted from the nazis has nothing to do with politics anymore.

Severian
Jan 28th, 2005, 11:56 AM
I just think it is wrong to think somewhat-right leaning Bush is responsible for his left-leaning grandfather's, and somewhat also left-leaning father's ideas. I hear the Bush family has fights all the time on the issues, perhaps Bush is a puppet, but even if he is it must mean he is a good man surrounded by bad friends. (No pun intended)

The comment was not to you MetalMilitia, sir.

prezhorusin04
Jan 28th, 2005, 11:59 AM
i'm not a leftist or extremist. I see myself as more trying to find and follow what feels right to me, and what is the true reality as i see it. I'm not a leftist because i don't follow either side of the fake controlled opposition paradigm coin. I think for myself even if half the people disagree with me. Even if i was the only one who believed what i believe, it wouldn't make it any less true. Luckily, there are millions of people in the world who see things in similar ways to how i view them. The "fringe minority" is actually the majority. You just wouldn't know it by watching the nightly propaganda media and reading the newspapers.

If it makes you feel any better Severian, Kerry is a numb-nutz and all the rest of these clones they get to run for President. 99% of politics is corrupt, and you see it any time you let your blinders down and see the real world for what it's worth.

Good info to post again MM.

prezhorusin04
Jan 28th, 2005, 12:06 PM
What claims can't i prove? Care to tell me? Cause we can prove that Bush Sr, AND JR, have used the phrase "New World Order" many times in their speeches. The same New World Order stated on the back of the one dollar bill..

I can't prove that Bush was head of the CIA, President of Lilly Drugs, and VP and Prez? I can't prove that Bush Jr looks to have stolen 2 consecutive elections by rigged voting and electronic ballot boxes? I can't prove Bush connections to the Bin Laden family? I can't prove Bush/Cheney oil and pipeline deals thru Haliburton and the Carlyle group? I can't prove that Bush was displaying handsigns at his inauguration that, to most people, are satanic hand signs.?

Of course, we're being terrorists and unpatriotic if we point out any of this glaring corruption. So we better just shut our mouths and keep getting spoon fed their lies and eating it up like it's a gourmet meal.

You totally lost me when you state "Bush is a good man surrounded by bad friends." When only a few sentences before you stated "Bush might be a puppet".

Severian
Jan 28th, 2005, 12:12 PM
If you seriously think the "majority" are a threat to the "NWO", then you are sadly mistaken. Obviously if internet sites like these were really seen as threats would they really still exist? Think. Obviously the conspired illuminati give out half-truths in order to control their own enemies, as any Luciferian will do. There is no point in worrying, as the Illuminati's reign will be brief, but will end with many deaths. If they "do" exist that is; they did exist at one point and openly showed themselves and we knew who they were. Obviously the whole story is just designed to make us all go mad searching for things that don't exist. I mean who would really waste their blissful lives on this?

prezhorusin04
Jan 28th, 2005, 1:04 PM
If you seriously think the "majority" are a threat to the "NWO", then you are sadly mistaken.

If the majority could come together more, and organize a little better, then yes, they would be a threat to the established "order" of the military industrial system. The fact that Americans could freely own guns, went a long way in keeping the Nwo at bay for a few centuries. But now, in the age of bio-engineered plague and nuclear bombs, it doens't matter much anymore if the majority own guns.


Obviously if internet sites like these were really seen as threats would they really still exist? Think. Obviously the conspired illuminati give out half-truths in order to control their own enemies, as any Luciferian will do.

I agree with you here. Although there are many occasions when internet sites are taken offline..Yes, it's a constant barrage of half-truths and downright lies. So in this way, the "majority" is seen as a threat. Or there would not be such and active and forceful attempt at media whitewashing and propaganda. Perspectives have to be kept in a certian order. They want us to see the truth, so long as it is the truth that they present for us. Atleast you agree they are Luciferians..


There is no point in worrying, as the Illuminati's reign will be brief, but will end with many deaths. If they "do" exist that is; they did exist at one point and openly showed themselves and we knew who they were. Obviously the whole story is just designed to make us all go mad searching for things that don't exist. I mean who would really waste their blissful lives on this?

I'm not saying you should worry. I'm saying that you should be on the side of information and truth. The Bush family are mulit-multi billionaires. They've got enough things going their way that they don't need you trying to stick up for them. You might as well take up the fight of those who oppose corruption in high levels of government. You don't have to talk about the Bush's or Kerry's alone, there are a million different angles you could take on exposing the mechinisms of this so called "New World Order."

I don't think you'll go mad from the things you can't find because they don't exist. But you could go mad from finding the things that actually do exist. And anyway, i don't think you'll go so much mad, as you might become sane for the first time in your life..

substand
Jan 30th, 2005, 1:01 PM
threads like these are retarded. You read "bush is nazi" from the headline, and ignore that it said there is nothing to suggest he even sympathized with nazism. of course, it was merely presented as a side note, because no doubt the writer of the article hoped to get across that "bush is nazi." You demonstrate your complete and utter lack of knowledge when you refer to this organization called the "new world order." do you know what the term refers to, or do you just take the word of leftwing psychotic websites, whose paranoia knows no bounds, that it is some secret organization that is bent on taking over the world?

dutchie
Jan 31st, 2005, 3:32 AM
...somewhat-right leaning Bush....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! LMAO!!!!!
:rolling: :Llol: ::)):