european union:the devils right hand

[daevilempire]

european union yall, what yall think about conforming to there hitler riech uber govt rules and laws? and fuck the bitch from unicef usin trick or treaters in my country to fund that bitches propoganda to get rid of weapons in the rest of the world

yall got to love the idea of free trade and the forfiet of previous taxes, to be traded with slavery dont ya? :2thumbs:

[dutchie]

Congratulations. You have the AO record in incomprehensible gibberish posting! Care to explain what the hell it is you are now trying to shove down the throat of us Yuropeans??

[DontBeAfraid]

I think that that title still belongs to that lady..... I forget her name, but you gotta remember how gibbereish her posts were.

[dutchie]

Victoria...

...mmm.. but THAT was unintentional gibberish...

[Bigsky770]

. . .She was kinda cool, for being a 'soccer-mom' that took "one too-many-strikes-to-the-cranium" by an overinflated ball. . .
. . .I especially like that one thread she started/something about combines collecting wheat to be woven into underwear, ('er something 'er other...)

But then, we ALWAYS have our 'replacements'. . . .:lol:

Joe (Bigsky770) :vbroll:

[dutchie]

...wheat into underwear?!? WTF?!?

...and you "kinda miss" someone who's posting THAT?!?

::)):

[daevilempire]

i was simply stating that they offer forfeitures of previous debts owed and free trade as long as countries follow there laws , if we are to be ruled by a one world govt it will be by these evil ppl, not america, is the point i was trying to make

[Havoc Angel]

Heh, must be because europe is *offering* something to those that do their way and not forcing themselves upon others by armed forces, heh. Maybe you are simply afraid that when the EU finally achieve something like 'union' they might overtake the US as a economic world power with far better relations in the world at the same time. Not that this will happen anywhere in the near future, the countries in the EU are still very.....individual.

[dutchie]

"follow their laws"?? What do you mean?

And yes, the countries in the EU haven't lost their individuality.. Thank Jeebus for that!

[Red Shift]

Amen to that, i think it will be a while before the countries (including my own) of the EU loose their individuallity
I think it will be a sad day if/when they do

[daevilempire]

except conforming to there laws and recieving the same issue of money? i believe it is called the euro? and yes i am afraid, the thing u dont hear is how the eu funds terrorist groups such as hamas and the pa, im very afraid when someone can make a law and not know it until im arrested for it, sorry but look up hitlers plan of his world and compare it to the structure of the eu, same money , no guns for a rise against the govt, etc etc

well gun laws for one thing amongst others, example, turkey is on the wait list to join the EU but cant since they have a law that states if you cheat on your spouse you can be locked up, the EU dont like that

yes im very afraid, remember it was a market before it was a union, why the change of name? we all know how evil unions are

[substand]

EU is a good model of regional governance in its concept, IMO. The bad part comes in the asinine laws they pass, like specifications for the proper curvature of a banana if it is to be sold at the market.

[daevilempire]

yeh so if ya know they will go ape shit over bananas then what type of laws will they pass about they civilians?

evil in its purest form, lol yeh its a good idea of governance if ya lookin to take over the world

[substand]

i think it will be a while before the countries (including my own) of the EU loose their individuallity
I think it will be a sad day if/when they do

I dont think they will. They might get watered down a bit, but they should retain their individuality largely IMO... Even with as much integration as there is in the US, different states and regions definitely have thier own flavor.

[DontBeAfraid]

The US has just as many stupid unenforced laws as any other country in the world

[dutchie]

yeh so if ya know they will go ape shit over bananas then what type of laws will they pass about they civilians?

evil in its purest form, lol yeh its a good idea of governance if ya lookin to take over the world
My GOD you're stupid. WHAT THE HELL do you know anyway?!? You hypocrite! Look at your own stupid laws! We don't have a "Patriot" act!

Next step is that you start shouting the US should nuke Europe, the new axis of evil...
That banana remark is a BS joke. As if the USA doesn't have trade regulations and quality standards..

[lotrfan55345]

In Mobile, Alabama they have a law against wearing high-heels downtown. In my hometown, you can't be sexually exitied outside of your house. (found that out in school, town used to be all fundie christian)

These laws are stupid imo, and can be comparable to the EU's laws.

[substand]

Many Europeans further reacted with bemusement at the EU's banana contretemps. The details are slippery, but it all stemmed from a bunch of regulations promulgated by the EU bureaucracy that, among other things, specified that imported bananas had to be at least 5.5 inches long and 1.1 inches wide, and could not be abnormally bent. Great Britain, where archeologists in 1999 uncovered the remains of a banana skin dating back to the mid-1400s, was especially attended. "Brussels bureaucrats proved yesterday what a barmy bunch they are by outlawing curved bananas. The crazy laws were drawn by thumb-twiddling EU chiefs who spent thousands on a yearlong study," protested the British newspaper, the Sun. An EU spokesperson replied that while, indeed, bananas of an abnormal shape could not be imported, that "in no sense" meant that EU regulation banned "curved bananas because a curve is a normal shape for a banana."

From http://highered.mcgraw-hill.com/sites/007248179x/student_view0/chapter7/a_further_note_2.html which quotes the NYTimes.

Far be it from me to imply that the US does not have it's share of stupid laws. However, most of the ones you mention are laws in one locality that do not affect me unless I live there, not all across the US... (although there are PLENTY of those too)... what irks me I guess, is that you have all these states coming together to debate and pass asinine laws... as if there weren't something better they could be doing. So the shot I took wasn't really just at the EU, but simply like "i think the idea is good in principle, but it has often degenerated into a bunch of crap." Its not just bananas, you know. If I want to give up some sovereignty to create a better marketplace, I don't want to give up my right to call feta cheese "feta cheese" even if its not from Greece, but is the same thing regardless. I don't want to give up my right to choose my own bananas, abnormally curved or not.

[daevilempire]

hypocrite , no sir, this from what ive seen is the first thread of its kind pointing to the ubergovt laws in the european union, i dont disagree that america has its problems but for some reason it like ppl in the eu look past all the innocent ppl there military has shot or bombed

another bullshit law the eu has that has resulted in the deaths of many, there immigrant laws, a report said that as many as 5,000 immigrants have died in the past 5 years trying to enter into the eu , they are left off shore by military force, some boats have even crashe spilling immigrants into the water as the guards that be just watch

[cjpluss]

The EU is the biggest disaster since... well ever. European countries will never loose their individuality unless we get some bad combinations of european leaders who think the same thing. Europe needs to have disagreeing leaders, as this is the only thing that stops europe becoming a mega-country

[repentantsinner]

It wont be long before the EU is so powerful nobody will care about bananas. I believe OPEC has already started taking payment in euros. Once the EU constitution is ratified by the individual countries the whole union may take off at breakneck speed. The EU is the future and we here in the US have to accept it.

[playmaker88]

for some reason it like ppl in the eu look past all the innocent ppl there military has shot or bombed

Let's all go back 60 years in time and keep tarring the current Europeans with the same brush. I just spent the weekend in Warsaw, Poland. A city where 75% of the population were killed in World War II. A country that has had to suffer invasion after invasion from the Turks, Russians, Germans etc. Most importantly a country that has not forgotten but has made every effort to move on. If any people have the right to fear a European Union for the reasons you have given then these people do, only they appear to embrace the idea. Probably because they understand the ideals and benefits a great deal better than some PARANOID person who thinks he knows it all because he's seen a few Hollywood representations on the silver screen. The majority of mainland Europe has lived this, learnt from it and is trying to move on.

It would appear that the USA feels that it can educate for the better through invasion and military force. The same ideals that the Europeans held in the past that led to the "innocent ppl (people) there (their) military has shot or bombed".



another bullshit law the eu has that has resulted in the deaths of many, there immigrant laws, a report said that as many as 5,000 immigrants have died in the past 5 years trying to enter into the eu , they are left off shore by military force, some boats have even crashe spilling immigrants into the water as the guards that be just watch.

Do you think that immigrants should just be let in freely? Europe is a very appealing place to live, just like your USA and just like your USA there have to be guidelines and restrictions to entry. I'd appreciate some links to go with your facts, I am aware of immigrants trying to enter countries under concealment and dying in the back of lorries etc. These are desperate people who will do anything to escape their lot, including boarding boats that will hardly float and if necessary forcing their way through. However, these boats would have no more success at their attempts to enter the 'land of the free' than they have had at entering Europe.