A Joke

[DontBeAfraid]

A fundamentalist preacher was taking a walk one day and happened upon a young girl who was playing with something in a cardboard box. When he got closer he could see that in the box was a litter of newborn kittens. "What kind of kittens are those?" asked the preacher. "Why, they're Christian kittens", replied the little girl. The preacher walked on, pleased to see that the little girl had Jesus foremost in her mind. A week later, the preacher was walking down the same street and saw
the little girl again playing with the kittens. "And how are your little Christian kittens doing today?" asked the man of God.
"Oh, they aren't Christian kittens, they're Agnostic kittens" replied the girl. "But...but...I thought you said last week that they were Christian kittens", sputtered the flabbergasted preacher. "Oh, they were. But now their eyes are open.";)

this isnt mine, and in the original they turned in to atheists.

[Vita4All]

Walk by faith, not by sight.

[DontBeAfraid]

Walk by faith, not by sight, and right into a tree.

[SP50]

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Walk by faith, not by sight. [/quote] and right into the arms of Jesus.
DBA, if you ever experience the arms of Jesus, you will never wish slander His name again.

[DontBeAfraid]

I want you to capitalize the first letter of every word you use that is refering to me. Just like you do with your imaginary friend.... you know, this invisible god fellow youre so jazzed up about.:evil:

[SP50]

You are not God and no!!!!!
In spite of your jokes and slander, God loves you

[DontBeAfraid]

you meant to say "You are a Joke, Sir" im sure

oh you edited...
well then "In spite of Your Jokes and Slander, god loves You" there, Im Capital Material now:evil:

[armageddononline]

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Walk by faith, not by sight. [/quote] "If the blind lead the blind shall they both not fall into a pit"?
Luke, Page 57, The Sermon on the Moral High Ground

[DontBeAfraid]

Another funny analogy

groups.msn.com/atheistvsg...ksass.msnw (http://groups.msn.com/atheistvsgod/kissinghanksass.msnw)

[Cristos]

One day in school, Mrs Mathis called on Bobby to go outside, and look all around. Little Bobby did and after spending about five minutes outside, came back in to the teacher. the teacher then began to question him, asking him what he had seen.
"Well," he answered,"I saw birds and bugs and a cat and a red car drive by."
"What did you see in the sky, Bobby?" the teacher asked.
Bobby repeated part of his list. "Birds and bugs and clouds and a plane."
"Did you see God?"
"No," answered Bobby, somewhat confused by the question. The teacher proceeded to turn to the class and told them since we couldn't see God, that there is no visible proof of Him, then He must not exist.
Lisa looked at the teacher at this and asked if she could ask Bobby more questions. Mrs Mathis said that she may.
"What color is the teacher's dress Bobby?" asked Lisa.
"Blue!", Bobby exclaimed.
"How many rings is she wearing?" Lisa prompted.
"Three", the boy said.
"What color is her hair?"
"Brown"
"What does her brain look like?"
Bobby looked at Lisa for a second before answering.
"I don't know", he said.
"Why not?" Lisa asked.
"Cause I can't see it."
Lisa then answered, "If you can't see it, it must not exist."

The only thing I changed was the names. Enjoy.at your leisure.

[DontBeAfraid]

If you joke was meant to demonstrate that things we cant see exist it really has nothing to do with a god. A god has no evidence whatsoever to its existance where as we can open up a head and see a brain. we cant see air but we can measure and indirectly observe it. we can feel many things we cannot see. You may say that you can feel god in your heart, but its only been proven that you can react to chemicals in your brain. its been proven that chemicals in your brain cause all feelings. even the ones that seem really really real can be faked.:evil:

If Bobby really wanted to he could look at his teachers brain, but he will never once in his life see your god.

[Cristos]

What do we know is real? What you perceive? Or what you feel? Is the adrenaline rush less real when we are afraid then the thing that makes us afraid? Both exist, yet only one can be perceived with all the senses. So since you can't take God and put Him in your pocket, does that make Him any less real than the substance put out by two small glands sitting sitting on top of your kidneys? Hold that stuff in your hands, I bet it will not affect you the same way it does when it is in your body, mind and soul. That is God, I may not be able to hold Him physically, but I can feel Him throughout my being.

[armageddononline]

Well how are you to know your religious experience isn't just chemicals in your brain?

[Cristos]

How do I know that these things aren't just chemicals messing with me? I sometimes suffer from depression, cause let's face it, life here isn't peachy. There were many times that I got down and prayed, just for a little help. Most of the time, nothing. But once, I was hit with a sensation so powerful, so joyous that the pit that had dragged me down had to release me. No drugs, no medications, nothing to affect me so quick. Yet, I found myself laughing, powerful again, able to face whatever came my way. All in a split second and having absolutely no precedence whatsoever. If you what to credit something that is largely unproven in many fields, that's great. But there is no way that an endorphin rush can affect a human so quickly, with no outside physical intervention that I know of. From six feet under to the top of the world in a second...science could pay for itself for years to come with a wonder drug made from the Joy of God.

[SP50]

Amen, Cristos.....I too have experienced the same. As a matter of fact when the devil gets me down with his lies.....all it takes is prayer and before I know it, I am feeling good and victorious. There is no medicine like that of the Holy Spirit.
I have experienced many miracles in my life, too. Things that the world would try to find an explanation to, but the truth is there is only one explanation.........a miracle of God almighty!

[DontBeAfraid]

Actually its been proven that thats exactly what an endorphine rush does. You may be a little bypolar. Yes sisnce you can hold the chemicals in your hand it does make them more real than your god. Your god is just a byproduct of those chemicals bouncing around in your head.:p


These things HAVE and can be reproduced with certainty in labs. So unless you are saying your doctor is god then you are wrong.:evil:

[Godsgifttomankind]

DBA, you actually know and understand what they are talking about and I will show it to you. They are talking about fields of force such as that caused by a magnet or even the Earth. A magnet has two equal but opposing forces that either attract or repel. When a very powerful magnet is moved close to an object, the object becomes charged by the force of that magnet. We also can be either negatively or positively charged, the positive is when we turn towards the good and yes it does cause a chemical reation within the body. It is like plugging a battery into an electrical circuit which causes the battery to be recharged. The negative force is caused by our own wants and desires and turning inward. These two forces of human energy are always present and we can all sense and feel them. Some people call them vibes or Auras but they are basically a form of energy and when you pray, you turn toward the source and are recharged. Thus it can be scientifically proven that man connects to that source, which we call God. There are many other sources of power that we can not see but man has learned to tap into such as electricity. We don't see it till the light goes on and removes the darkness but there are ways to prove that it does exist.

Even what you witnessed between SP50 and myself is proof of a negative power source. A source that is our own earthly desires manifest and a turning away from Love and Respect. I understand that negative force and how that it manifests itself but prefer to stay away from the term Satan for it negates our own role in powering that source. We have a resposibility to turn and stay connected to the positive source and when we use the word Satan it is like ignoring that we could put light where there is no light.

Negative means that more has been taken away than was there in the first place or that we have borrowed beyond our own means.

[SP50]

When we speak of satan we are speaking of an absolute "evil"......source.......the author of evil.
How can we show the glory and wonder of our God without the warning of the absolute evil that guides the thoughts and actions of people everywhere, usually without their knowledge.
satan is a REAL force in this world, souce of evil........GOD is the ultimate souce of good. Even the Holy scriptures tell of satan and his tactics to decieve.....warnings about him and the delusion he tries to put on man

[a reacher from the teacher]

21Peter, seeing him, said to Jesus, “But Lord, what about this man?”
22Jesus said to him, “If I will that he remain till I come, what is that to you? You follow Me.”

what is that to you?
You follow Me

there' hunger in the world

“This is a deserted place, and the hour is already late. Send the multitudes away, that they may go into the villages and buy themselves food.”
16But Jesus said to them, “They do not need to go away. You give them something to eat.”;) ;) ;)

[firo]

ok so DBA said chemicals hv an effect on our thoughts / feelings etc. so big question, are we controlled by the chemicals in our head? if we are, then if i am angry bcoz of these 'chemical effects' & kills somebody, can i say, "ohh sorry, it's these darn chemicals in my head"....

if humans r controlled by body chemicals, so we, as ourselves, hv no function at all? if our brain hv 'angry chemicals', then can we be angry, even for no obvious reason? if we do, it's just like insanity... coz we hv lost control of our own mind...

[DontBeAfraid]

GodsGift The auras dont cause the chemiclas the chemicals cause the the effect of the aura. You got it backwards.

Firo, Just cause the chemicals make you feel a certain way doesnt mean they effect your thoughts directly, You have higher brain functions for the very purpose of evaluating how you feel compared to what is reasonable action for those feelings.

[SP50]

hmmmmm, chemicals causing so much.......and some would say we came from a one cell omeba......amazing isn't it how such a thing can evolve into such a complex organism.
The human body is so complex, how in the world could all that complexity evolve from a blob? It didn't ......we were wonderfully created by God almighty. A concept, I, know that is so hard to grasp, and yet so many find it easy to grasp that all this complexity evolved from one cell??????
That is amazing

[DontBeAfraid]

Amazing as evolution is, it is whats happened.

[Jazman]

I have a question for the prayers out there.

Explain why prayer is OK, but spell casting is not, when both amount to the same thing: requesting that a superior supernatural force to intercede in a way that would be impossible according to the normally accepted laws of physics.

[SP50]

It is not the same thing. Prayer is supplication to God for many things.
Spell casting is an abomination unto God because it is a tool of any that follow satan.......
When we pray we do not do incantations and spells of various kinds......we commune with our Father, we talk with Him about many things.

[DontBeAfraid]

Spellcasting is just a way for people who believe in thier gods to commune with them. I dont see the difference in a prayer and an incantation other than who you think you are talking to. Spell casting actual seems more effecient, i mean their god doesnt even bother with the small talk, they ask it answers.

[SP50]

incantations are to call up the god of this world......satan
Who on earth would want to commune with evil ???

[DontBeAfraid]

I didnt know you were a witch.. well actually i assumed you werent a witch. And not being a witch you have no idea what incantations are for, you only know what YOUR religion has taught you to think about other religions.

[Jazman]

Explain why spreading the "truth of Christ" requires you to spread lies about other religions, such as the idea that Wiccans (so-called "white witches") worship the Christian devil. (Incidentally, they don't, and this rumor has been persistently spread by Christians since the second century CE).


Christians have harassed Wiccans ("white witches") for almost two thousand years now, when the central rule of the Wiccan ethical system is "an it harm no one, do what thou wilt."

[Godsgifttomankind]

What has been painted in my mind in regards to witches is an old woman with a grotesque face. One that goes around condemning everything and following her own selfish desires.
That I have no doubt is an abomination unto God for she does not serve goodness and the ways of God. That same ugly face I have seen in all aspects of our society including profested Christians.

Goodness comes under many names and does good things for many reasons but it is still goodness. Point being that my hat is off to anyone that sacrifices their own life for the betterment of the people around them no matter what they call themselves.

Darkness is ignorance of anykind and following the desires of self. While light is knowledge and the sacrificing of self. A white witch is a humble and submissive servant to the good of this world? Casting out demons and performing miraculous signs? I know of a very powerful white witch that walked the earth and healed the sick.

A name is a name and it is names that hold us back from recognising the Truth!

What is foreign to us we believe to be bad but the only thing that is bad is ignorance.

Are you Ignorant?

If you are ignorant maybe you are that black witch I talked about at the beginning?

[firo]

"higher brain functions for the very purpose of evaluating how you feel"

exactly. so now tell me, how does the brain evaluate these things? to naturally know which is right & which is wrong, & to naturally select what is good or bad. how does a newborn baby know how to cry, when he is hungry? certainly nobody taught him that, & surely not from his dad or friends etc... & how does our brain know to tell our body to shake when we're cold (shivering)? & to tell our body when something is not right (pain)? certainly the brain didn't learn all these at school or the environment...

i believe there must be a series of logics & thoughts processed in the brain cells, b4 evaluations is made. so where does this logics & thoughts comes from? school, upbringing, environment? if yes, yet these factors doesn't answer the questions above - how does the hungry newborn baby's brain know when he is hungry & how to cry for food... how does he naturally know that?

surely this 'natural thinking' must hv been instilled since b4 his birth. so if it's b4 his birth, this thought must come from a supernatural source.

if u don't think so, explain to me how does these newborns know about pain, love, happiness, hunger, hatred... when nobody even taught him... how does his brain comes to that conclusion...

[DontBeAfraid]

Actually firo you didnt name a single higher brain function. You named things that helped us survive through the ages. things that evolution equipped us with. Shivering is involuntary, shying way from pian is also a reflex. HIGHER thought processes are what help you to determine not to do the things that cause pain and what allow you to stop shivering even though you are cold. Babies cry no matter what is wrong they dont know that crying will get them food until its happened many times and they realize that that is how they will get the attention they need. How does a baby know about pain? It doesnt until it learns it. It doesnt know that the pain in its stomach is hunger it just knows its not happy, it cries for everything it doesnt like. Have you ever seen a baby/toddler slam his fingers in a door for the first time? It takes it a few seconds to decide its in pain and doesnt like the new sensation is very unpleasent. Babies dont know of hate or love, those are also things they learn from their new environments and the people that populate them.


There is almost no thinking at all at the levels you described. They are in fact very important parts of evolution. Species that didnt have a nervous system that let them know they were in pain died out. Those in which the parents couldnt tell something was wrong with the newborns died out- barring other tools for surviving this problem such as having many babies or fairly developed independent offspring.

You named things that are a part of survival of the fittest, not htings that involve suppressing emotion to act rational. Dont say that higher brain functions are a gift from god either as they are just a step in evolution also. As they do help you to act rational and not put yourself in bad situations so that you might procreate.

[Godsgifttomankind]

Seems to me that all these things must be some sort of preprogramming before birth. Hmm Programs have to be created they don't just spontaneously appear, does that mean that we also had to be created? What is it that science is showing to us?

Action - Reaction

In order to create a reaction there has to be a force acting on something. What was the force that caused the big bang that brought everything into exsistance?

What is a force?

What created the force?

[Jazman]

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>A white witch is a humble and submissive servant to the good of this world? Casting out demons and performing miraculous signs? I know of a very powerful white witch that walked the earth and healed the sick.[/quote]

If that is the case then why has Christians have harassed Wiccans ("white witches") for almost two thousand years.?
I repeat this question as you never answered it.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>What has been painted in my mind in regards to witches is an old woman with a grotesque face. One that goes around condemning everything and following her own selfish desires.[/quote]

Surely you are being ignorant for having this view on witches.


Dictionary extract:-
Ignorance:-
(Theol.) A willful neglect or refusal to acquire knowledge which one may acquire and it is his duty to have. --Book of Common Prayer

[DontBeAfraid]

The higher brain functions eventually come about. , but they are not preprogrammed other than to come about with the developement with the brain after birth.

The rest of the stuff is preprogramed via evolution. Now dont go trying to personify evolution or saying its something i beleive in blindly or that its MY god. That sort of thing will only make you look like you lack an understanding of what evolution is.

[SP50]

Do you really believe you evolved from a monkey?
No, God made man!!!! He did not make monkey then turn that monkey into man.

[Jazman]

Why is it your god that is the creator of man and all? There are many religions established long before christianity that had their own creation story. Why did you happen to choose the Jewish god as the sole creator?

Look at the other things that christianity tried to preach:
the earth was flat
the heavens revolve around the earth
the earth was 10,000 years old
earthquakes were caused by sins
Friday the 13th is unlucky
Walking under a ladder is bad luck (violating the trinity, yadda yadda)
Cats are the work of the devil (myth was said to have helped spread the bubonic plauge, but doubtful)

Many of these were based on biblical scriptures which were at the time considered literal, and are now interpreted differently. There is no reason to think that Genesis isn't the same case.

One person's religion is anothers superstition. In most cases religions 'tote the company line' until forced to back away for a point. Science uses the brains that were given to us ( by nature ) to observe our surroundings and try to understand events. More importantly, scientists fully expect the knowledge of the field to change... while theists resist these changes.

(Note: I realize that not all theists have a stagnant worldview. This applies to those who do.)

[SP50]

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>not being a witch you have no idea what incantations are for[/quote]
Even elementary children know what an incantation is, Christian or not. especially those that read Harry Potter books.
I happen to be just the opposite of a witch.
Whether you want to believe it or not, there are two unseen forces on this earth.......Holy Spirit and the devil himself.
Wiccans do not believe in Christ , therefore they are anti-Christ......since there are only 2 forces and they do not serve God, then it is satan they serve, but through ignorance they do not know this fact.
Christians do not "harrass" Wiccans, we would rather they see the truth, but since we do not agree with their beliefs we are labeled as "harrassers".
<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>A name is a name [/quote]
A name is a name and a witch is a witch.........no gray area here. The world has been lulled into a false sense of good. Even the bible says in the last days, there will be those that call evil, good and good, evil.......these comments are a prime example. I stand for good and yet I am painted as evil because I dare to speak of God, the one true God.
<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Are you Ignorant? If you are ignorant maybe you are that black witch I talked about at the beginning? [/quote]
who exactly was that comment directed at? I have been accused of such when quoting the word Of God by ungodly persons........was that meant for me?
<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Babies dont know of hate or love[/quote]
YOu are right when you say they don't know how to hate, because they have yet to be tainted by the hate of this world. Babys are pure love..just watch a baby. if the baby is around hatred, it cries......if the baby is around love, it is happy and smiling. Guess you havent been around babies much. Just because they can not voice what they need, they know very well what they need. A mother learns the different cries and what they mean.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Seems to me that all these things must be some sort of preprogramming before birth. [/quote]

Is 44:24 This is what the Lord says- your redeemer, who formed you in the womb
Psalm 139:13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb
We were preprogrammed with a knowledge of GOD!!!! Just because one says they do not believe, does not mean they were not born with a knowledge of God....it is circumstance and environment that dictates whether that child will continue in that belief or not.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Why did you happen to choose the Jewish god as the sole creator?[/quote]
God is not Jewish.....He is God, not man. Jesus was born a Jew. The Jews were the ones to realize their creator, while the rest of mankind in general worshiped pieces of wood or stone formed in an animal or after a human.......their so called god never did anything at all. God chose the Jews because they believed in Him. My God has shown His glory over and over. He made manna come down from heaven to feed the Jews in the wilderness. He performed many miracles and still does to this day ....
Sure man can serve another god.......but it is the god of this world and there is nothing GOOD in him and he can bring nothing GOOD to anyone. He hates mankind because we ARE God's creation. He will promise the world , but ultimately give nothing but pain and suffering. He is not capable of bringing peace of mind to the inner man.
<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Look at the other things that christianity tried to preach:the earth was flat the heavens revolve around the earth the earth was 10,000 years old earthquakes were caused by sins Friday the 13th is unlucky Walking under a ladder is bad luck (violating the trinity, yadda yadda) Cats are the work of the devil (myth was said to have helped spread the bubonic plauge, but doubtful) [/quote]

Could you give me the scriptures these were taken from, because most of this( I never heard of the heavens revolving around the world) is superstition and Christians have nothing to do with superstition ( another tool of the devil to discredit Christians) the word says the world is round like a circle and it is, it says nothing about it being flat.......I mean, really it's quite obvious the earth is not flat....maybe some ignorant"scholars" in the 1400s thought it was flat. The earth is 10,000 years old? whoever gave it that number? earthquakes caused by sin. God can cause an earthquake to disrupt the evil sin of man....but still I would like to see the scripture you are talking about. Friday the 13th unlucky....again superstition....Friday the 13 th is just anoter day. Walking under a ladder??????superstition. Cats the work of the devil, hmmmm, well guess I am guilty.....I have a sweet little cat.....but I am not sinning by having a cat.......Really, where did you get the idea these things have anything to do with Christianity, because I assure you, they do not.

[armageddononline]

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Could you give me the scriptures these were taken from, because most of this( I never heard of the heavens revolving around the world) is superstition and Christians have nothing to do with superstition [/quote] The Catholic Church had hundreds of people burnt to death for saying the Earth was round, the Earth went round the sun etc.

[DontBeAfraid]

about babies.

they dont cry when around hatred and arent happy just cause the people around them are. They cry when they are disturbed or uncomfortable, If theres lots of yelling going on around them they get scared and cry. They could also be at the happiest place imaginable and they will cry simply because they are uncomfortable. They arent born with different cries for different things they learn them. they arent born with any knowledge, this is also stuff they are taught. If babies were really born with the knowledge of your god then there wouldnt be anything but christians.

about superstition


christians used to burn people they suspected of being witches..... well actually they pressed them which is worse, well, i dont know which is worse they are both horrible. In case somebody doesnt know pressing is when they would make somebody lie down, put a board on them and pile rocks on until the person was crushed.

[Godsgifttomankind]

My understanding of witches was based on ignorance but I have reached past that point. The picture I was trying to paint was showing that it is possible for each and everyone of us to look like that ugly black witch at one time or another when we act out of ignorance. So yes Sandy it is possible that a small part of you acts out of ignorance. I know you have loving intentions but you do not know the hearts of the people you lump into being anti-christ. Goodness of anykind comes from God

DBA how do you explain the fact that a person's understanding goes against their actions. For example how is it that the average person that does something bad knows that it is bad even when though they have been trained to do that? A child that is beaten all it's life knows that this is not right but continues the action themself. How is it that the child knows that this is wrong? This is based on case study.

How is it that if somebody tells you something that reason tells you you have never heard before but you know it is right? How do you explain higher brain function and intellect? Where does knowledge come from?

[SP50]

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>My understanding of witches was based on ignorance but I have reached past that point. The picture I was trying to paint was showing that it is possible for each and everyone of us to look like that ugly black witch at one time or another when we act out of ignorance. So yes Sandy it is possible that a small part of you acts out of ignorance. I know you have loving intentions but you do not know the hearts of the people you lump into being anti-christ. Goodness of anykind comes from God [/quote]


anyone that does not accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and saviour is anti-Christ....really pretty simple, either you are for Him or against Him.
Matt 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before me, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men,him will I also deny him before my Father which is in heaven.
Goodness-Ec7:20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not
Matt 19:17 ...............there is none good but one, that is God.............
Eph 2:9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God. Not of works ( or even goodness)lest any man should boast.
to be good is a GOOD thing, but that alone will not secure ones salvation.....the only way to salvation is through the confession of Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour. It is only through Him and that wonderful name God gave Him that we can be saved
Goodness does come from God, but that does not to say that any who is good has believed on him or his son.
It is through Jesus Christ and only Him that we can gain salvation and eternal life in paradise with Him.

[DontBeAfraid]

Looks like someones been indoctrinated...... or at least doesnt like to think for herself.

[SP50]

DBA, I am afraid that you are the one whose strings are being pulled by an unseen force and not a good force at that. Man thinks he has it all figured out, but if he could only trly see what is going on in the spirit realm.
I am sorry for you that you have nothing better to do than insult people. But trust me ( HA HA funny I should use such a phrase with you) I am secure in the knowledge that God is not only real, but He is my God whom I love and I know He loves me, He gives me peace and a joy in my heart inspite of the circumstances around me. Circumstances that I must walk through, but I do it with Him and He is bringing me through. My only wish when it comes to people like you that I or HE could get throught that hardened heart so you could experience the wonderful things God has for those that love Him.

[DontBeAfraid]

We dont think we have it all figured out, but we would like to. You think you have it all figured out, you're not even looking for answers anymore. You think i dont have fun? You think i have a "hardened heart"? Well, those are exactly the types of views about non christians that your religion has INDOCTRINATED you with. :evil:

[SP50]

I am glad you are having so much fun at my expense DBA.
I do not have all the answers, but the answer to salvation, I do have.

[DontBeAfraid]

Just reread this thread.... Im so damn smart, I am incredible... So well-spoken and outgoing....
What happened??
ps
ggtm.... i never answered you.... intelligence comes from patterns - the abstract answer.

[dutchie]

Dunno bout that, but what I DID see was that the zealots USED to be a LOT more agressive some time ago.. Where did they all go?!?

[dutchie]

bumpety bump

salvation.....salvation from what?

Eternity with 70 virgins.... :nudge:

Oops, that's an entirely different one.... Sorry....:dork:

[Bigsky770]

EXAMPLE:

Vita4All: Walk by faith, not by sight.

DontBeAfraid: Walk by faith, not by sight, and right into a tree.

. . .Probably don't help, BUT Really do crack-me-up! LMAO! . . .

Micky, A typical "Fundi" never could (DEAL -w- "Your Superiority!")

Hans, (are you telling me there's NOT 70 virgins waiting for me?) Somewhere along the line, somebody LIED to me! . . .Damn! :naughtyy:

Joe (Bigsky770) :vbroll:

[Skynet12]

Eternity with 70 virgins.... :nudge:

Oops, that's an entirely different one.... Sorry....:dork:
Get in there.

[Doomer]

Ever notice how Christian jokes are always stupid?

[johnb1]

YUP' but THINK Beyond and Parallel Humble and Wise be BRAVE ALSO....GOTCHA