Lent?

[dcookcan]

Where did the season prior to Easter known as Lent originate? I found a short but inetersting article on its origins at:
http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org/tracts/tract1.html

Is Easter worthy of christian observance? What are your thoughts on Easter observance, for or against (please include supporting information)?

[dcookcan]

Perhaps reading origins from a different source would be useful.

http://www.fabrisia.com/easter.htm

[voxpopulisuxx]

[QUOTE=dcookcan]Perhaps reading origins from a different source would be useful.

www.traditio.com

AT ITAGAIN I SEE :gotcha:

www.traditio.com
The word "Lent" that we use in English-speaking countries to mark the
penitential season of forty days before Easter is from an Anglo-Saxon word
meaning "spring." However, the official term used by the Church is
"Quadragesima," from the Latin word for "forty."

The question arises why the number of days from Ash Wednesday to
Easter is not exactly forty. One simple explanation is that if one does not
count the Sundays, which are not days of fast, the number of days does equal
forty.

To help you make a profitable forty-day period of prayer, penance,
and spiritual exercises in preparation for the proper celebration of Easter,
here are some suggestions for observance of the Lenten discipline, which
consists of three separate parts:

1. Corporal (External) Fast.
* Observe the traditional Lenten fast and abstinence.
* Limit significant entertainments and parties during Lent.
* Avoid listening to profane music (rock, pop, etc.)
* Take less of what you like and more of what you dislike at meals one day.
* Do not use seasoning on your food one day.
* Avoid listening to the radio or television one day.

2. Spiritual (Internal) Fast.
* St. John Chrysostom taught: "The value of fasting consists not so much in
abstinence from food, but rather in withdrawal from sinful practices."
* St. Basil the Great taught: "Turning away from all wickedness means
keeping our tongue in check, restraining our anger, suppressing evil
desires, and avoiding all gossip, lying, and swearing. To abstain from
these things -- herein lies the tue value of fast!"
* Abstain from all evil.
* Avoid unnecessary talking one day.
* Make extra efforts to exercise patience in all things.
* Make extra efforts not to complain.
* Make extra efforts to restrain anger.

3. Spiritual Change.
* Make extra efforts to grow spiritually and to amend your life.
* Practice the virtues, particularly the theological virtues of faith, hope,
and charity, and the cardinal moral virtues of prudence, justice,
fortitude, and temperance.
* Attend Divine Office, Holy Mass, and liturgical exercises as often as they
are offered during Lent.

[voxpopulisuxx]

Where did the season prior to Easter known as Lent originate? I found a short but inetersting article on its origins at:
http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org/tracts/tract1.html

Is Easter worthy of christian observance? What are your thoughts on Easter observance, for or against (please include supporting information)?
WHAT UTTER SHITE THIS IS! The kkk has better theology!

[dutchie]

The Dutch word for the spring season is "Lente"...

[dcookcan]

Perhaps reading origins from a different source would be useful.

www.traditio.com

Thank you voxpopulisuxx for the link to a nice catholic propaganda website. The reasons for calling it propaganda can be clarified by reading their statement on Galileo (posted below). There was no information on the origins of Lent that I could find, only the how to do it text that you already posted.


GALILEO

Most frequently pictured in what some historians call "The Black
Legend," as a lone crusader persecuted by a narrow and superstitious Church,
Galileo (1564-1642) was, in fact, an impatient and conceited individual who
insisted on the unquestioned acceptance of his unproven theories, which in
fact were scientifically wrong in several particulars. The basis of his
theory was in fact scientifically false since he based it on the tides of the
sea, which he claimed were caused by the motion of the earth around the sun
(his heliocentric hypothesis), whereas the tides do not depend primarily on
the sun, but on the moon.

He promulgated his ideas in a flamboyant style, "sometimes in bawdy
writings" (Sobel), which set many of his colleagues in the academic community
of the time against him. He deliberately chose, against the standard of the
time, to write his books in the vulgar tongue rather than in the Latin of
academia, thereby playing, as it were, to the crowds rather than posing a
scientific hypothesis to those who could seriously critique it. One of the
papal representatives, Melchior Ingofer, expressed it thus: "He writes in
Italian, certainly not to extend the hand to foreigners or other learned men,
but rather to entice to that view common people, in whom errors very easily
take root."

Robert Cardinal Bellarmine, later proclaimed a Saint of the Church, a
brilliant Renaissance man who was a great friend and supporter of Galileo,
attempted to temper Galileo's brashness by advising him through a mutual
acquaintance. "It seems to me that your Reverence and Signor Galileo would
act prudently were you to content yourselves with speaking hypothetically and
not absolutely, as I have always believed that Copernicus spoke." Galileo,
however, refused to qualify his assertions and arrogantly remarked: "You
cannot help it ... that it was granted to me alone to discover all the new
phenomena in the sky and nothing to anybody else."

Galileo, however, refused to qualify his assertions and arrogantly
remarked: "You cannot help it ... that it was granted to me alone to
discover all the new phenomena in the sky and nothing to anybody else."
Later, however, he recanted his prideful statement and admitted: "My error,
then, has been, and I confess it, one of vainglorious ambition and of pure
ignorance and inadvertence.... Indeed, those flaws that can be seen
scattered in my book were introduced ... through the vain ambition and
satisfaction of appearing clever above and beyond the average among popular
writers" (1633).

Ironically, both Luther and Melanchthon had rejected Galileo's theory
off-hand. Moreover, many in the academic would were hostile to Galileo and
condemned his theories. On the contrary, it was the Roman Catholic Church,
not the "enlightened reformers," that sponsored Galileo's lectures and
supported his honest endeavors. Pope Urban VIII, Cardinal Bellarmine, and
many other leaders of the Church publicly Galileo's scientific work, many of
them owned telescopes made by him and conducted their own observations.

Galileo was not condemned. In only one trial, in 1633 (not the two
that some erroneously allege, as in 1616 his friend Cardinal Bellarmine only
advised him informally), he was given a moderate sentence (the recitation
once a week for three years of the penitential psalms, which he had already
been doing anyway and voluntarily continued to do afterwards, a practice that
would take only fifteen minutes per week) for publishing as pure doctrine
what he was told to publish as theory. The basis of his theory was in fact
false since he based it on the tides of the sea, which depend not primarily
on the sun, but on the moon.

Galileo spent not even one single day in prison, nor did he suffer
any physical penalty. On the contrary, during his trial in Rome in 1633, he
was housed in elegant apartments with a personal servant. Thereafter, he
resided for a time in the palace (which his daughter described as "so
delightful") of the Archbishop of Siena, a supporter. He was never
prohibited from continuing his work and studies, and was never barred from
receiving visitors. In other words, instead of holding Galileo prisoner as a
confessed heretic, he was indulged as a guest of honor. Galileo died at the
age of 78 in his own bed, with the plenary indulgence and blessing of the
pope. (Vittorio Messori, Levandas Negras de la Iglesia)

Moreover, the pope of the time, Urban VIII, had brought to the Holy
See an interest in scientific investigation not shared by his immediate
predecessors. Galileo knew him personally -- had shown him his telescope,
and had won him to his side one night, after a banquet at the Florentine
court, in a debate about why ice floats. Urban had long admired Galileo so
much that he had even written a poem for him, mentioning the sights revealed
by "Galileo's glass."

Maria Celeste, Galileo's sister, delighted with her father at this
turn of events: "The happiness I derived from the gift of the letters you
sent me, Sire, written to you by that most distinguished Cardinal, now
elevated to the exalted position of Supreme Pontiff, was ineffable, for his
letters so clearly express the affection he has for you, and also shows how
highly he values your abilities." (Dava Sobel)

[voxpopulisuxx]

Thank you for posting that excellent peice of truth! all right...its so good Ill think ill post it again...hey bring back more stuff from that site will you? if not that one how about these?
http://www.kensmen.com/catholic/
www.novusordowatch.org
GALILEO

Most frequently pictured in what some historians call "The Black
Legend," as a lone crusader persecuted by a narrow and superstitious Church,
Galileo (1564-1642) was, in fact, an impatient and conceited individual who
insisted on the unquestioned acceptance of his unproven theories, which in
fact were scientifically wrong in several particulars. The basis of his
theory was in fact scientifically false since he based it on the tides of the
sea, which he claimed were caused by the motion of the earth around the sun
(his heliocentric hypothesis), whereas the tides do not depend primarily on
the sun, but on the moon.

He promulgated his ideas in a flamboyant style, "sometimes in bawdy
writings" (Sobel), which set many of his colleagues in the academic community
of the time against him. He deliberately chose, against the standard of the
time, to write his books in the vulgar tongue rather than in the Latin of
academia, thereby playing, as it were, to the crowds rather than posing a
scientific hypothesis to those who could seriously critique it. One of the
papal representatives, Melchior Ingofer, expressed it thus: "He writes in
Italian, certainly not to extend the hand to foreigners or other learned men,
but rather to entice to that view common people, in whom errors very easily
take root."

Robert Cardinal Bellarmine, later proclaimed a Saint of the Church, a
brilliant Renaissance man who was a great friend and supporter of Galileo,
attempted to temper Galileo's brashness by advising him through a mutual
acquaintance. "It seems to me that your Reverence and Signor Galileo would
act prudently were you to content yourselves with speaking hypothetically and
not absolutely, as I have always believed that Copernicus spoke." Galileo,
however, refused to qualify his assertions and arrogantly remarked: "You
cannot help it ... that it was granted to me alone to discover all the new
phenomena in the sky and nothing to anybody else."

Galileo, however, refused to qualify his assertions and arrogantly
remarked: "You cannot help it ... that it was granted to me alone to
discover all the new phenomena in the sky and nothing to anybody else."
Later, however, he recanted his prideful statement and admitted: "My error,
then, has been, and I confess it, one of vainglorious ambition and of pure
ignorance and inadvertence.... Indeed, those flaws that can be seen
scattered in my book were introduced ... through the vain ambition and
satisfaction of appearing clever above and beyond the average among popular
writers" (1633).

Ironically, both Luther and Melanchthon had rejected Galileo's theory
off-hand. Moreover, many in the academic would were hostile to Galileo and
condemned his theories. On the contrary, it was the Roman Catholic Church,
not the "enlightened reformers," that sponsored Galileo's lectures and
supported his honest endeavors. Pope Urban VIII, Cardinal Bellarmine, and
many other leaders of the Church publicly Galileo's scientific work, many of
them owned telescopes made by him and conducted their own observations.

Galileo was not condemned. In only one trial, in 1633 (not the two
that some erroneously allege, as in 1616 his friend Cardinal Bellarmine only
advised him informally), he was given a moderate sentence (the recitation
once a week for three years of the penitential psalms, which he had already
been doing anyway and voluntarily continued to do afterwards, a practice that
would take only fifteen minutes per week) for publishing as pure doctrine
what he was told to publish as theory. The basis of his theory was in fact
false since he based it on the tides of the sea, which depend not primarily
on the sun, but on the moon.

Galileo spent not even one single day in prison, nor did he suffer
any physical penalty. On the contrary, during his trial in Rome in 1633, he
was housed in elegant apartments with a personal servant. Thereafter, he
resided for a time in the palace (which his daughter described as "so
delightful") of the Archbishop of Siena, a supporter. He was never
prohibited from continuing his work and studies, and was never barred from
receiving visitors. In other words, instead of holding Galileo prisoner as a
confessed heretic, he was indulged as a guest of honor. Galileo died at the
age of 78 in his own bed, with the plenary indulgence and blessing of the
pope. (Vittorio Messori, Levandas Negras de la Iglesia)

Moreover, the pope of the time, Urban VIII, had brought to the Holy
See an interest in scientific investigation not shared by his immediate
predecessors. Galileo knew him personally -- had shown him his telescope,
and had won him to his side one night, after a banquet at the Florentine
court, in a debate about why ice floats. Urban had long admired Galileo so
much that he had even written a poem for him, mentioning the sights revealed
by "Galileo's glass."

Maria Celeste, Galileo's sister, delighted with her father at this
turn of events: "The happiness I derived from the gift of the letters you
sent me, Sire, written to you by that most distinguished Cardinal, now
elevated to the exalted position of Supreme Pontiff, was ineffable, for his
letters so clearly express the affection he has for you, and also shows how
highly he values your abilities." (Dava Sobel)