They're all $%#@& Liars....

[shadow7]

Finally....the L word comes into its own....

THE LIARS’ DEN!

A lie told often enough becomes truth

THE PROBLEM

What a proud moment in our history, as Condoleezza Rice was sworn in as the nation’s new Secretary of State! How comforting it was to know that one liar had just succeeded another into a post that demands the respect and confidence of the entire international community. It’s time to say it as it is: Rice lied to us. Powell lied to us. They lied, period. And very few people seem terribly disturbed.

Their lies involved our national security and our preparedness for and possible complicity in the events of 9/11. Their lies cajoled an unsuspecting public into accepting an illegal, immoral, and bloody war. Their lies were calculated and repeated time after time without challenge without retraction. But then again, why should anyone be surprised? After all, Rice and Powell were in good company among the other denizens of the Liars' Den, where lying on a grand scale to the American people and the world is policy.

Americans have been lied to before. We were lied to about the Gulf of Tonkin. We were lied to about Watergate. We were lied to about Iran-Contra. We were lied to about Gulf War I. Maybe we’ve grown accustomed to the lies.

This time around, however, we were lied to in spades. We were lied to about 9/11. We were lied to about what they knew and what they did. We were lied to about Iraq. We were lied to about links between Al Qaeda and Saddam. We were lied to about aluminum tubes and uranium deals and mushroom clouds. We were lied to about chemical weapons and imminent threats. We were lied to and lied to and lied to about the reasons for waging a war against Iraq. But most of America didn’t seem to care....

More...

http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/the_liars__den.html

[stewey]

real reliable source there dan rather

[substand]

What a proud moment in our history, as Condoleezza Rice was sworn in as the nation’s new Secretary of State!

It is proud- we have our first black female Sec. of State!


Powell lied to us.

How dare you attack the credibility of such an honorable statesman


and possible complicity in the events of 9/11.

There is a forum for conspiracy theories. Use it.


illegal, immoral, and bloody war.

Illegal, no. It is and has always been clear that 1) we were never at peace with Iraq and 2) they were in violation of multiple BINDING UNSC resolutions against them. These facts are so indisputable that I no longer feel the need to provide links. Let me know if you need them (ie, if you really beleive what you said about it being illegal and it was not just rhetoric).

Immoral - the removal of an evil dictator? Tell me about the immorality of it, please.

Bloody- yes. all wars are. In comparison to others we've had, however, I don't know that 'bloody' describes it.


We were lied to about Gulf War I.

wtf you talking about?


We were lied to about 9/11. We were lied to about what they knew and what they did.

Again, there is a section for conspiracy theories. Use it, or understand how intelligence works.


We were lied to about links between Al Qaeda and Saddam.

nope.


We were lied to about chemical weapons and imminent threats.

found chemical weapons (few tho they may be) and imminent was never given as an excuse. If you remember, this was a "pre-emptive" war.

[Haliburton]

real reliable source there dan rather
Not to be mean but that is funny. I agree the source is very questionable.

[derangel]

Governments are to be feared, not trusted. I'm under no illusions that the United States government is going to tell me any more than they feel I need to know or more than is convenient for them.

As for having blacks and women in the upper levels of government, I'm all for it. Having a woman president might finally convince some backward archconservatives that we're no longer in the 50's. And having a black president would be just as great. Barack Obama could do it. He's smart enough to get the job done and do it well. Besides, I'd love to see the expressions on the faces of the KKK and the neo-nazi's when we elect a black president. They'll shit themselves. It'll be great.

[stewey]

I wouldn't take that source reliable. Hence my referring to him as "Dan Rather"

[Emerald_Dragon]

...our gov't lying....is that new?

>>We were lied to about Gulf War I.
>wtf you talking about?

probably about the time where the Iraqis took babies out of their incubators to let them die. it never happened, they made it up to get us into the '91 War. or was it our tacit no comment on their border disputes with Kuwait. ehh, either way, we were mislead into that war too. Greed is good [/sarcasm].