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voxpopulisuxx
Feb 16th, 2005, 8:08 AM
The Ultimate Conspiracy

"Athanasius contra mundum"
If the world goes against the truth, then Athanasius goes against the world --St. Athanasius (ca. 296-373)
"Dont wanna be an American Idiot...one nation controlled by the media"
Greenday 2004

In the History of the human race there has been one conspiracy, the lie against the truth. As a catholic I know this from the Bible account of Mankind and the serpent. But anyone who lives and thinks can perceive this battle. And in our modern age it has become apparent in the smoke and mirrors world of international affairs that there is a final mass push against the truth. Be it the “so in your face” lie of 911 or the raw power- play lie of Iraq, something wicked this way comes.
This Ultimate conspiracy is led by a thing or a being that has the cooperation of dispirit individuals across the nations and across time, and you and me. The root evils like the root virtues intrinsic in every person are the strings used by the head conspirator to continue his conspiracy. Greed, power lust, envy etc…these are the motivators to get man to betray the truth to the lie. The cowardly are its greatest allies. If a third world war in the middle east is to be averted, it wont be the conspiracy of the Zionists in Israel or the neo-cons in Washington that would have to be exposed (even though these conspiracies are real), these are merely the branches of the ultimate conspiracy. No, if war is to be averted and diminished in the future the trunk of all conspiracies must be exposed to the ax of the truth seekers.
I have a little test for you.
If you’re an American; which of the following statements is true:
A) My freedom of speech has been given to me by the Constitution.
B) My freedom of speech is Given to me by my creator, and the Constitution was written to protect that absolute truth (natural law).Corollary: if the Constitution was voted away and eliminated by a dictator, I WOULD STILL HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH its just the price would be much higher to use it.
Now when the lie is put in such harsh juxtaposition to truth it seems easy enough to distinguish what is true. But you may have been disturbed to feel reflexively that the first statement was true when you first read it. If you had not gone further or if statement B was “The moon is made of cheese” you may have said A was true instead of saying both are false.
This little exercise mildly illustrates I think the modus operandi of the media culture in the USA. The media culture makes most all political debates put before the American people as two or more false assertions without ner’ a truth to be found. Consider the case of having two Presidential candidates that are both bad for the country. The people are surrounded by lies half lies and out of context facts repeated ad nauseam. They are lied to about their health, their money, their Government, their religion, their race or lack there of. Their lied to about marriage, history and whatever else will avert the eyes from the single truth that might awaken the masses. Their blatently lied to about homosodomy, force by the power of politicalcorrect voodoo to supress the very evidence of nature in that a certian part of a mans anatomy does not belong in the lower G/I tract of another man, no matter how much the two enjoy it. In short dear readers we have been lied to so much we cannot recognize truth any more. This is goal of the Ultimate conspiracy, to extinguish the truth. And gladly will we allow it to be extinguished because (to coin the modern cliché) we CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH. Our truth muscle in our brain has been atrophied by the culture of lies spun around us.
If I have convinced you at all of the truth of this ultimate conspiracy, be of good cheer there is an antidote. Search your thoughts about the issue or issues that concern you. For instance the issue of abortion. There are many Lies surrounding this hot button issue, but there is one truth ...and that is that every abortion, done for whatever reason or good intention , has killed a human being. Now holding on to that single truth, begin to hold it up to all the other issues and assertions, one by one the lies will fall away and truths will stand. Simplistic? You bet your ass. That’s why a single truth frightens the conspirator so. In conclusion; if you want peace, embrace truth no matter how hard they want you to let it go!
__________________

Haliburton
Feb 16th, 2005, 11:49 AM
Very clever Antiabortion propaganda. You will have to do better than that. What ever happened to womens rights? :dork:

voxpopulisuxx
Feb 16th, 2005, 1:02 PM
Very clever Antiabortion propaganda. You will have to do better than that. What ever happened to womens rights? :dork:
simple hold up the undeniable truth...abortion kills a human being...to the so called rights of women....does a womans right rise to the level deciding the life and death of others? Women are not the creators or "owners" of what forms in their wombs...do woman have the right to sell their babies? do they have the right to sell their babies organs to the highest bidder?

Haliburton
Feb 16th, 2005, 1:51 PM
simple hold up the undeniable truth...abortion kills a human being...to the so called rights of women....does a womans right rise to the level deciding the life and death of others? Women are not the creators or "owners" of what forms in their wombs...do woman have the right to sell their babies? do they have the right to sell their babies organs to the highest bidder?
Well i am not a woman but i do believe in their right to choose. Any women out there with an opinion on this one. I don't think its my right to tell women what to do with there bodies and lives.

voxpopulisuxx
Feb 16th, 2005, 3:12 PM
Well i am not a woman but i do believe in their right to choose. Any women out there with an opinion on this one. I don't think its my right to tell women what to do with there bodies and lives.


Nice dodge Girly Man! The feminist castration squad can pass you by! :2thumbs:

Emerald_Dragon
Feb 16th, 2005, 3:48 PM
good rant. i don't believe you meant abortion to be the main issue. but good rant nonetheless.

voxpopulisuxx
Feb 16th, 2005, 4:01 PM
good rant. i don't believe you meant abortion to be the main issue. but good rant nonetheless.
Thank you and astute observation! :2thumbs:

Haliburton
Feb 16th, 2005, 9:47 PM
Nice dodge Girly Man! The feminist castration squad can pass you by! :2thumbs:
Who the fuck died and made you god born again. Let me guess your one of those people who have done rotten things to yourself and other people. Alchoholic or drug addict or both? Then you become born again and think you are saved. I know tons of selfrightous asswipes like you. Obviously you have a problem with women too. I feel sorry for your wife if she exsists. I respect women and womens rights If i am a girly man for that then so be it. :dork:

voxpopulisuxx
Feb 16th, 2005, 10:47 PM
Who the fuck died and made you god born again. Let me guess your one of those people who have done rotten things to yourself and other people. Alchoholic or drug addict or both? Then you become born again and think you are saved. I know tons of selfrightous asswipes like you. Obviously you have a problem with women too. I feel sorry for your wife if she exsists. I respect women and womens rights If i am a girly man for that then so be it. :dork:

pop go the buttons! I Knew there was a jerk in that box!:gotcha:
(ps not born again, Cradle Catholic)
I just know that over emotional, easily upset, fem-male-ists like yourself who cower behind womans rights chimeras and talk smack defending infanticide are the problem. Your not a real man because you don't defend Truth or innocence,,you defend only your prideful piggish needs. Ill bet you rally behind women on the battlefeild too huh. If Americas founding fathers were as shallow and irresponsible as you we would have never declared our independence.
Maybe someday you'll get this and take your place with other great Americans.

Since you were callow enough to mention my beautiful wife of 15+ years and counting(first and only)and Mother of my 5 beautiful children I suppose a written black eye is in order for you..

My wife is quite happy with me a man who knows what is right, can defend what is right with sincerity and intelligence and won't be intimidated by anyone or anything. That is what makes a man a man.
America is full of your ilk, self hating males who only see the ends of their noses and penises, and think beating their gorilla chests, while picking up their wives/girlfriends pills and slipping on their condoms are some how respecters of women...ha your a disgrace to your gender. Know that I will Iggy any further response from you as only people of Character and maturity should be discussing the serious issues that will affect and are affecting the future of the world and my children

By the way it was Jesus who died since you asked....and He died for all the innocence that is murdered in every abortion,, and every foul and hateful so called pro choicer who spits in his face everyday. It is a mans responsability to speak out AGAINST ABORTION. And there is no way to respect women if you Dont respect the Mother of God.
VIVO CHRISTU REX!!

Haliburton
Feb 17th, 2005, 2:10 PM
pop go the buttons! I Knew there was a jerk in that box!:gotcha:
(ps not born again, Cradle Catholic)
I just know that over emotional, easily upset, fem-male-ists like yourself who cower behind womans rights chimeras and talk smack defending infanticide are the problem. Your not a real man because you don't defend Truth or innocence,,you defend only your prideful piggish needs. Ill bet you rally behind women on the battlefeild too huh. If Americas founding fathers were as shallow and irresponsible as you we would have never declared our independence.
Maybe someday you'll get this and take your place with other great Americans.

Since you were callow enough to mention my beautiful wife of 15+ years and counting(first and only)and Mother of my 5 beautiful children I suppose a written black eye is in order for you..

My wife is quite happy with me a man who knows what is right, can defend what is right with sincerity and intelligence and won't be intimidated by anyone or anything. That is what makes a man a man.
America is full of your ilk, self hating males who only see the ends of their noses and penises, and think beating their gorilla chests, while picking up their wives/girlfriends pills and slipping on their condoms are some how respecters of women...ha your a disgrace to your gender. Know that I will Iggy any further response from you as only people of Character and maturity should be discussing the serious issues that will affect and are affecting the future of the world and my children

By the way it was Jesus who died since you asked....and He died for all the innocence that is murdered in every abortion,, and every foul and hateful so called pro choicer who spits in his face everyday. It is a mans responsability to speak out AGAINST ABORTION. And there is no way to respect women if you Dont respect the Mother of God.
VIVO CHRISTU REX!!
Wow you are quite the bible thumper. I have no time for the likes of overbearing selfrightous holy rollers like yourself. You need a serious dose of reality. Stop hiding behind your bible and face the real world. We'll see whos right in the end.

nrj
May 7th, 2005, 12:55 PM
The Ultimate Conspiracy

"Athanasius contra mundum"
If the world goes against the truth, then Athanasius goes against the world --St. Athanasius (ca. 296-373)
"Dont wanna be an American Idiot...one nation controlled by the media"
Greenday 2004

In the History of the human race there has been one conspiracy, the lie against the truth. As a catholic I know this from the Bible account of Mankind and the serpent. But anyone who lives and thinks can perceive this battle. And in our modern age it has become apparent in the smoke and mirrors world of international affairs that there is a final mass push against the truth. Be it the “so in your face” lie of 911 or the raw power- play lie of Iraq, something wicked this way comes.
This Ultimate conspiracy is led by a thing or a being that has the cooperation of dispirit individuals across the nations and across time, and you and me. The root evils like the root virtues intrinsic in every person are the strings used by the head conspirator to continue his conspiracy. Greed, power lust, envy etc…these are the motivators to get man to betray the truth to the lie. The cowardly are its greatest allies. If a third world war in the middle east is to be averted, it wont be the conspiracy of the Zionists in Israel or the neo-cons in Washington that would have to be exposed (even though these conspiracies are real), these are merely the branches of the ultimate conspiracy. No, if war is to be averted and diminished in the future the trunk of all conspiracies must be exposed to the ax of the truth seekers.
I have a little test for you.
If you’re an American; which of the following statements is true:
A) My freedom of speech has been given to me by the Constitution.
B) My freedom of speech is Given to me by my creator, and the Constitution was written to protect that absolute truth (natural law).Corollary: if the Constitution was voted away and eliminated by a dictator, I WOULD STILL HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH its just the price would be much higher to use it.
Now when the lie is put in such harsh juxtaposition to truth it seems easy enough to distinguish what is true. But you may have been disturbed to feel reflexively that the first statement was true when you first read it. If you had not gone further or if statement B was “The moon is made of cheese” you may have said A was true instead of saying both are false.
This little exercise mildly illustrates I think the modus operandi of the media culture in the USA. The media culture makes most all political debates put before the American people as two or more false assertions without ner’ a truth to be found. Consider the case of having two Presidential candidates that are both bad for the country. The people are surrounded by lies half lies and out of context facts repeated ad nauseam. They are lied to about their health, their money, their Government, their religion, their race or lack there of. Their lied to about marriage, history and whatever else will avert the eyes from the single truth that might awaken the masses. Their blatently lied to about homosodomy, force by the power of politicalcorrect voodoo to supress the very evidence of nature in that a certian part of a mans anatomy does not belong in the lower G/I tract of another man, no matter how much the two enjoy it. In short dear readers we have been lied to so much we cannot recognize truth any more. This is goal of the Ultimate conspiracy, to extinguish the truth. And gladly will we allow it to be extinguished because (to coin the modern cliché) we CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH. Our truth muscle in our brain has been atrophied by the culture of lies spun around us.
If I have convinced you at all of the truth of this ultimate conspiracy, be of good cheer there is an antidote. Search your thoughts about the issue or issues that concern you. For instance the issue of abortion. There are many Lies surrounding this hot button issue, but there is one truth ...and that is that every abortion, done for whatever reason or good intention , has killed a human being. Now holding on to that single truth, begin to hold it up to all the other issues and assertions, one by one the lies will fall away and truths will stand. Simplistic? You bet your ass. That’s why a single truth frightens the conspirator so. In conclusion; if you want peace, embrace truth no matter how hard they want you to let it go!
__________________

Thats just typical you catholics. First, you spread anti condome propaganda. then, antiabortion propaganda. Do you WANT singlemothers taking care of children alone, just because they were raped? Do you want HIV? It seems so to me

nrj
May 7th, 2005, 4:11 PM
pop go the buttons! I Knew there was a jerk in that box!:gotcha:
(ps not born again, Cradle Catholic)
I just know that over emotional, easily upset, fem-male-ists like yourself who cower behind womans rights chimeras and talk smack defending infanticide are the problem. Your not a real man because you don't defend Truth or innocence,,you defend only your prideful piggish needs. Ill bet you rally behind women on the battlefeild too huh. If Americas founding fathers were as shallow and irresponsible as you we would have never declared our independence.
Maybe someday you'll get this and take your place with other great Americans.

Since you were callow enough to mention my beautiful wife of 15+ years and counting(first and only)and Mother of my 5 beautiful children I suppose a written black eye is in order for you..

My wife is quite happy with me a man who knows what is right, can defend what is right with sincerity and intelligence and won't be intimidated by anyone or anything. That is what makes a man a man.
America is full of your ilk, self hating males who only see the ends of their noses and penises, and think beating their gorilla chests, while picking up their wives/girlfriends pills and slipping on their condoms are some how respecters of women...ha your a disgrace to your gender. Know that I will Iggy any further response from you as only people of Character and maturity should be discussing the serious issues that will affect and are affecting the future of the world and my children

By the way it was Jesus who died since you asked....and He died for all the innocence that is murdered in every abortion,, and every foul and hateful so called pro choicer who spits in his face everyday. It is a mans responsability to speak out AGAINST ABORTION. And there is no way to respect women if you Dont respect the Mother of God.
VIVO CHRISTU REX!!

You do not love a woman, if you force her taking care of an unwanted child. Killing may be cruel. But, forcing responcibility into a womens arms, when she isnt capable or motivated to do so, is pure cruelty. I have seen cruelty. the city of Malmö in sweden, is the most criminal city on this planet. And forcing women to take care of children, when they cant or dont want to, is a much worser faith than death for a child. and the mother to. Plus, religuos motivations isnt a motivation on this rational thinking planet. You got to do better than that!

Houston411
May 7th, 2005, 8:07 PM
Another religious nut.

Any theory with Green Day lyrics is so stupid.

Its ok folks, pass this one by too!

nrj
May 7th, 2005, 8:11 PM
Another religious nut.

Any theory with Green Day lyrics is so stupid.

Its ok folks, pass this one by too!

Yeah, I know. It seems to me, that only the most simple minded fools of this planet, is the ones who would want all the people on this planet, to follow one religion. a religion, that turns man against man. are you catholic? in that case, I pardon for insulting you

restin
May 7th, 2005, 8:13 PM
Now that the subject has been brought up, I would like to submit a question for you who are religious. Maybe God holds in His "files" the soul of a new human until a physical body is formed in a womb. Then God "breathes" this unique soul into the infant physical body at some time and the body then becomes a human being with a soul. But, if the infant, physical body dies, either by disease, accident, or abortion, God takes back that human's unique soul into His collection (whereever he keeps it) and saves it to put it into another developing infant body. So, regardles of whether abortion or mishap, it is only a body that is lost, not a human being. So, I'm wondering what all of you think of this. I don't think this is the same as re-incarnation, as this is just a way to get a human being started, not dealing with the possibility of endlessly sequential lives. But I'm openminded and just tryng to understand how all this works.

Houston411
May 7th, 2005, 8:19 PM
Yeah, I know. It seems to me, that only the most simple minded fools of this planet, is the ones who would want all the people on this planet, to follow one religion. a religion, that turns man against man. are you catholic? in that case, I pardon for insulting you
I was baptised catholic, but I don't really follow anything ;).

none taken!

nrj
May 7th, 2005, 8:33 PM
I was baptised catholic, but I don't really follow anything ;).

none taken!

Good, i dont want to be reckoned as "The local ashole!"

nrj
May 7th, 2005, 8:34 PM
Now that the subject has been brought up, I would like to submit a question for you who are religious. Maybe God holds in His "files" the soul of a new human until a physical body is formed in a womb. Then God "breathes" this unique soul into the infant physical body at some time and the body then becomes a human being with a soul. But, if the infant, physical body dies, either by disease, accident, or abortion, God takes back that human's unique soul into His collection (whereever he keeps it) and saves it to put it into another developing infant body. So, regardles of whether abortion or mishap, it is only a body that is lost, not a human being. So, I'm wondering what all of you think of this. I don't think this is the same as re-incarnation, as this is just a way to get a human being started, not dealing with the possibility of endlessly sequential lives. But I'm openminded and just tryng to understand how all this works.

Either way, abortion should be optional