12 Biblical signs (to the end of the world). . .

[EnDRuSh]

Ive been on Armageddon Online for awhile now and today I joined the forums ..
First off I want to say this right off the bat, alot of you are falling into missleading information, the world is not going to end by a astroid hitting it or the sun burning up like i saw somebody post earlier..The sun will burn up long after we are gone.. and astroids will hit the earth long after also..How do I know? ( The Bible )

For some of you that dont know and chose to believe rumors across the internet about the world ending in 2006 or whenever this should be good information for you ..These are the 12 Signs of what has to happen before the end.
Read carefully and learn from it ..Jesus says
(( NO MAN KNOWS THE TIME OR THE DAY ))


1) Many will come in the name of Christ and deceive many (Matt.24,5; Mark 13,6; Luke 21,8)

2) There will be wars and rumours of wars between nations and kingdoms (Matt.24, 6-7; Mark 13,7-8; Luke,21,9-10).

3) The first sorrows will be in the form of calamities: 'famines, pestilences and earthquakes in divers places', fearful sights and great signs from heaven (Matt.24,7-8; Mark, 13,8; Luke 21,11). << 300,000 thousand people just died you be the judge)

4) Orthodox Christians will be delivered up, killed and hated by all nations (Matt. 24,9; Mark 13, 9-11; Luke 21,12-15).

5) Everywhere men will hate and betray each other (Matt.24,10; Mark 13,12-13; Luke 21,16-17).

6) Many false prophets will appear and deceive many (Matt.24,11).

7) On account of abundant iniquity (evil deeds and unrepented sin), the love of many will grow cold. Only those who endure to the end will be saved (Matt.24,12-13; Mark 13,13; Luke 21,19).

8) The Gospel will be preached throughout the world 'for a witness unto all nations' (Matt.24,14; Mark 13,10).

9) After this Jews will become Orthodox Christians (Romans 11,25-28).

10) Preparations will be made for the coming of Antichrist, called the son of perdition and the beast. Preceded by false prophets and false signs and wonders, Antichrist will be a master of illusion, of 'shock and awe', taking away people's freedom, but making them think that they have been freed. He will persecute the true servants of Christ with rage and fury. The Temple in Jerusalem will be rebuilt for him to be enthroned there in the place of Christ - hence his name 'Antichrist', he who comes in the place of Christ (Matt, 24,15-24; Mark 13,14-22; 2 Thess.3-11; 1 John 2,18; Rev.13,1-8).

11) Signs will appear in the heavens, the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light, the stars will fall from heaven, the sea and the waves will roar and the powers of heaven will be shaken (Matt.24,29; Mark,13,24-25; Luke 21,25-26).

12) The sign of the Son of man (the Cross) will appear in the heavens and then will take place the Second Coming of Christ with power and great glory. Angels will be sent and shall gather the elect together 'from the four winds' (Matt.24,30-31; Mark 13,26-27, Luke 21,27).

These are the 12 signs that have to happen before the end of the world comes ..Most people think that most of these have already come, I myself believe we are on the last 3..it also says in the Bible that the holy city is suppost to have a war and Jesus is suppost to come and save them ..The Bible tells it all people, stop believing rumors across the internet (ANTICHRIST IS A MASTER OF ILLUSION)
if you want the truth read the word..I was also informed by my cousin who is a pastor that it also says something in the bible about this being the last pope, and then after that ..its over....

[PsychicKid]

What makes you believe that these are the 12 signs? I may not know much about the Bible, and I DO believe in God, but 12 signs? Come on now. What evidence do you have that proves that these are indeed the signs of the world ending? Does it say that in the Bible? Also, these two seem to be the same exact thing.

1) Many will come in the name of Christ and deceive many (Matt.24,5; Mark 13,6; Luke 21,8)

6) Many false prophets will appear and deceive many (Matt.24,11).

If the first 9 signs have indeed already happened, shouldn't we have KNOWN about the false prophet/AntiChrist/Whatever? Wasn't he supposed to decieve EVERYONE? Besides, in this sign here:
4) Orthodox Christians will be delivered up, killed and hated by all nations (Matt. 24,9; Mark 13, 9-11; Luke 21,12-15).
Is that referring to the people who ascend to Heaven before God basically kills Earth? If this has already happened (Like you believe), then wouldn't we have... ya know? Noticed it?

(I do not have a copy of the Bible on hand, nor do I own one, so I cannot check these passages myself.)

[EnDRuSh]

What makes you believe that these are the 12 signs? I may not know much about the Bible, and I DO believe in God, but 12 signs? Come on now. What evidence do you have that proves that these are indeed the signs of the world ending? Does it say that in the Bible? Also, these two seem to be the same exact thing.

1) Many will come in the name of Christ and deceive many (Matt.24,5; Mark 13,6; Luke 21,8)

6) Many false prophets will appear and deceive many (Matt.24,11).

If the first 9 signs have indeed already happened, shouldn't we have KNOWN about the false prophet/AntiChrist/Whatever? Wasn't he supposed to decieve EVERYONE? Besides, in this sign here:
4) Orthodox Christians will be delivered up, killed and hated by all nations (Matt. 24,9; Mark 13, 9-11; Luke 21,12-15).
Is that referring to the people who ascend to Heaven before God basically kills Earth? If this has already happened (Like you believe), then wouldn't we have... ya know? Noticed it?

(I do not have a copy of the Bible on hand, nor do I own one, so I cannot check these passages myself.)



In reply to what you first said..Yes Jesus says that all of those have to happen before the "end" if you must call it will happen ..And all of those are stated in the Bible also ..And refering to this >

1) Many will come in the name of Christ and deceive many (Matt.24,5; Mark 13,6; Luke 21,8)

6) Many false prophets will appear and deceive many (Matt.24,11).


Number 1. Is refering to people claiming/saying they are Jesus..
Number 6. A false prophet is someone who lies about the word of god ..



And about your the Orthodox Christians im not to sure on that, you should get a Bible and look it up or search online for information ..

[quoin]

Shouldn't this be on the Religion Forum?

[EnDRuSh]

Shouldn't this be on the Religion Forum?


Yes and no ..i was going to put it there but there are more people in this forum that need to know what is really real..so instead of people thinking the end of the world in 2025,2012,2006,2007 or astroids, volcanos or "killer tsunamis" are gunna kill everyone.. im tellin them what the Bible says ..the truth .

[Keeblergiant]

You do know I was lying when I dictated the bible to Moses...right? :grin

[nrj]

Ive been on Armageddon Online for awhile now and today I joined the forums ..
First off I want to say this right off the bat, alot of you are falling into missleading information, the world is not going to end by a astroid hitting it or the sun burning up like i saw somebody post earlier..The sun will burn up long after we are gone.. and astroids will hit the earth long after also..How do I know? ( The Bible )

For some of you that dont know and chose to believe rumors across the internet about the world ending in 2006 or whenever this should be good information for you ..These are the 12 Signs of what has to happen before the end.
Read carefully and learn from it ..Jesus says
(( NO MAN KNOWS THE TIME OR THE DAY ))


1) Many will come in the name of Christ and deceive many (Matt.24,5; Mark 13,6; Luke 21,8)

2) There will be wars and rumours of wars between nations and kingdoms (Matt.24, 6-7; Mark 13,7-8; Luke,21,9-10).

3) The first sorrows will be in the form of calamities: 'famines, pestilences and earthquakes in divers places', fearful sights and great signs from heaven (Matt.24,7-8; Mark, 13,8; Luke 21,11). << 300,000 thousand people just died you be the judge)

4) Orthodox Christians will be delivered up, killed and hated by all nations (Matt. 24,9; Mark 13, 9-11; Luke 21,12-15).

5) Everywhere men will hate and betray each other (Matt.24,10; Mark 13,12-13; Luke 21,16-17).

6) Many false prophets will appear and deceive many (Matt.24,11).

7) On account of abundant iniquity (evil deeds and unrepented sin), the love of many will grow cold. Only those who endure to the end will be saved (Matt.24,12-13; Mark 13,13; Luke 21,19).

8) The Gospel will be preached throughout the world 'for a witness unto all nations' (Matt.24,14; Mark 13,10).

9) After this Jews will become Orthodox Christians (Romans 11,25-28).

10) Preparations will be made for the coming of Antichrist, called the son of perdition and the beast. Preceded by false prophets and false signs and wonders, Antichrist will be a master of illusion, of 'shock and awe', taking away people's freedom, but making them think that they have been freed. He will persecute the true servants of Christ with rage and fury. The Temple in Jerusalem will be rebuilt for him to be enthroned there in the place of Christ - hence his name 'Antichrist', he who comes in the place of Christ (Matt, 24,15-24; Mark 13,14-22; 2 Thess.3-11; 1 John 2,18; Rev.13,1-8).

11) Signs will appear in the heavens, the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light, the stars will fall from heaven, the sea and the waves will roar and the powers of heaven will be shaken (Matt.24,29; Mark,13,24-25; Luke 21,25-26).

12) The sign of the Son of man (the Cross) will appear in the heavens and then will take place the Second Coming of Christ with power and great glory. Angels will be sent and shall gather the elect together 'from the four winds' (Matt.24,30-31; Mark 13,26-27, Luke 21,27).

These are the 12 signs that have to happen before the end of the world comes ..Most people think that most of these have already come, I myself believe we are on the last 3..it also says in the Bible that the holy city is suppost to have a war and Jesus is suppost to come and save them ..The Bible tells it all people, stop believing rumors across the internet (ANTICHRIST IS A MASTER OF ILLUSION)
if you want the truth read the word..I was also informed by my cousin who is a pastor that it also says something in the bible about this being the last pope, and then after that ..its over....

I rather believe the world will end in a nuclear war, than believe in a man I dont know, and who claims to be ressuructed :crazy:

[palex911]

i believe everything but 11 has happened already.... i believe 11 is coming.. did you see the picture of the "new planet", that is circulating the "brown drawf".... I am pretty sure I seen a cross in that..... ummm... here is the link to that....
http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/04/01/extrasolar.planet.photo/index.html

so as far as i am concern... the 12 would be so accounted for.... rock on

:band:

[EnDRuSh]

i believe everything but 11 has happened already.... i believe 11 is coming.. did you see the picture of the "new planet", that is circulating the "brown drawf".... I am pretty sure I seen a cross in that..... ummm... here is the link to that....
http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/04/01/extrasolar.planet.photo/index.html

so as far as i am concern... the 12 would be so accounted for.... rock on

:band:


There is no cross in that picture lol ..and when it is said the cross will appear ..it means a real cross ..like one everyone would see in the sky ..you get what im tryin to say here? lol :2thumbs:

[Bigsky770]

Originally posted by EnDRuSh
Yes and no ..i was going to put it there but there are more people in this forum that need to know what is really real..so instead of people thinking the end of the world in 2025,2012,2006,2007 or astroids, volcanos or "killer tsunamis" are gunna kill everyone.. im tellin them what the Bible says ..the truth .

. . .EnDRuSh, I understand where you are going with this but yet the thread has such a 'natural religious bent' that it couldn't be appropriate for placement anywhere else BUT the "Religious Section", so I was compelled by reason to re-locate it there. Additionally, your original title was ["The TRUTH, *IMPORTANT*"] and in this I also had to re-name the thread; I hope you understand, (no offense here intended) though you would have to agree, a person arriving at the Forums "sees" the title as such and the first thing that must occur is "The TRUTH?, The TRUTH about WHAT?". . .Just saying here you needed to be more specific, so I re-titled the thread to match the subject as outlined in the text you provide.

Thank-You and enjoy the Forums!

Joe (Bigsky770) :vbroll:

[B.NyeTheUruk-Hai]

I'd have to agree with EnDRuSh - there isn't even the slightest HINT of a cross in that picture. And once again, these so-called "signs" are extremely vague and open to all sorts of interpretation. QUESTION: Why would God go through all of the trouble of creating the Earth and man and the universe only to destroy it all?

[mysticalzoe]

This is an interesting thread, i do believe a lot of what you posted as the 12 signs, many of it has happened already:

1) Many will come in the name of Christ and deceive many (Matt.24,5; Mark 13,6; Luke 21,8)

2) There will be wars and rumours of wars between nations and kingdoms (Matt.24, 6-7; Mark 13,7-8; Luke,21,9-10).

3) The first sorrows will be in the form of calamities: 'famines, pestilences and earthquakes in divers places', fearful sights and great signs from heaven (Matt.24,7-8; Mark, 13,8; Luke 21,11). << 300,000 thousand people just died you be the judge)

4) Orthodox Christians will be delivered up, killed and hated by all nations (Matt. 24,9; Mark 13, 9-11; Luke 21,12-15).

5) Everywhere men will hate and betray each other (Matt.24,10; Mark 13,12-13; Luke 21,16-17).

6) Many false prophets will appear and deceive many (Matt.24,11).

7) On account of abundant iniquity (evil deeds and unrepented sin), the love of many will grow cold. Only those who endure to the end will be saved (Matt.24,12-13; Mark 13,13; Luke 21,19).

8) The Gospel will be preached throughout the world 'for a witness unto all nations' (Matt.24,14; Mark 13,10).

9) After this Jews will become Orthodox Christians (Romans 11,25-28).

10) Preparations will be made for the coming of Antichrist, called the son of perdition and the beast. Preceded by false prophets and false signs and wonders, Antichrist will be a master of illusion, of 'shock and awe', taking away people's freedom, but making them think that they have been freed. He will persecute the true servants of Christ with rage and fury. The Temple in Jerusalem will be rebuilt for him to be enthroned there in the place of Christ - hence his name 'Antichrist', he who comes in the place of Christ (Matt, 24,15-24; Mark 13,14-22; 2 Thess.3-11; 1 John 2,18; Rev.13,1-8).

11) Signs will appear in the heavens, the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light, the stars will fall from heaven, the sea and the waves will roar and the powers of heaven will be shaken (Matt.24,29; Mark,13,24-25; Luke 21,25-26).

12) The sign of the Son of man (the Cross) will appear in the heavens and then will take place the Second Coming of Christ with power and great glory. Angels will be sent and shall gather the elect together 'from the four winds' (Matt.24,30-31; Mark 13,26-27, Luke 21,27).


The most of the signs have ahppened i think, except for number 3 (again i could be wrong), and 8-10, i think we are on the brink to finding out who the anitchrist is, I personally think it;'s the new pope, but that's just me, whatever, i would assume the antichrist would know religion enough to decieve many people, and of course the pope is into religion already. I don't like the guy at all, and he has the most evil look i have ever seen, everytime i see the guys picture, i just shiver to. I have bad feelings about him.

Oh well, that's my input on the matter!

Jessica

[EnDRuSh]

This is an interesting thread, i do believe a lot of what you posted as the 12 signs, many of it has happened already:

1) Many will come in the name of Christ and deceive many (Matt.24,5; Mark 13,6; Luke 21,8)

2) There will be wars and rumours of wars between nations and kingdoms (Matt.24, 6-7; Mark 13,7-8; Luke,21,9-10).

3) The first sorrows will be in the form of calamities: 'famines, pestilences and earthquakes in divers places', fearful sights and great signs from heaven (Matt.24,7-8; Mark, 13,8; Luke 21,11). << 300,000 thousand people just died you be the judge)

4) Orthodox Christians will be delivered up, killed and hated by all nations (Matt. 24,9; Mark 13, 9-11; Luke 21,12-15).

5) Everywhere men will hate and betray each other (Matt.24,10; Mark 13,12-13; Luke 21,16-17).

6) Many false prophets will appear and deceive many (Matt.24,11).

7) On account of abundant iniquity (evil deeds and unrepented sin), the love of many will grow cold. Only those who endure to the end will be saved (Matt.24,12-13; Mark 13,13; Luke 21,19).

8) The Gospel will be preached throughout the world 'for a witness unto all nations' (Matt.24,14; Mark 13,10).

9) After this Jews will become Orthodox Christians (Romans 11,25-28).

10) Preparations will be made for the coming of Antichrist, called the son of perdition and the beast. Preceded by false prophets and false signs and wonders, Antichrist will be a master of illusion, of 'shock and awe', taking away people's freedom, but making them think that they have been freed. He will persecute the true servants of Christ with rage and fury. The Temple in Jerusalem will be rebuilt for him to be enthroned there in the place of Christ - hence his name 'Antichrist', he who comes in the place of Christ (Matt, 24,15-24; Mark 13,14-22; 2 Thess.3-11; 1 John 2,18; Rev.13,1-8).

11) Signs will appear in the heavens, the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light, the stars will fall from heaven, the sea and the waves will roar and the powers of heaven will be shaken (Matt.24,29; Mark,13,24-25; Luke 21,25-26).

12) The sign of the Son of man (the Cross) will appear in the heavens and then will take place the Second Coming of Christ with power and great glory. Angels will be sent and shall gather the elect together 'from the four winds' (Matt.24,30-31; Mark 13,26-27, Luke 21,27).


The most of the signs have ahppened i think, except for number 3 (again i could be wrong), and 8-10, i think we are on the brink to finding out who the anitchrist is, I personally think it;'s the new pope, but that's just me, whatever, i would assume the antichrist would know religion enough to decieve many people, and of course the pope is into religion already. I don't like the guy at all, and he has the most evil look i have ever seen, everytime i see the guys picture, i just shiver to. I have bad feelings about him.

Oh well, that's my input on the matter!

Jessica




Antichrist the new Pope? thats a very interesting thought ...you are right he does look evil lol ...nice statment thow on the pope possibly being antichrist ..is their any pacific reason why you think that ?

[EnDRuSh]

. . .EnDRuSh, I understand where you are going with this but yet the thread has such a 'natural religious bent' that it couldn't be appropriate for placement anywhere else BUT the "Religious Section", so I was compelled by reason to re-locate it there. Additionally, your original title was ["The TRUTH, *IMPORTANT*"] and in this I also had to re-name the thread; I hope you understand, (no offense here intended) though you would have to agree, a person arriving at the Forums "sees" the title as such and the first thing that must occur is "The TRUTH?, The TRUTH about WHAT?". . .Just saying here you needed to be more specific, so I re-titled the thread to match the subject as outlined in the text you provide.

Thank-You and enjoy the Forums!

Joe (Bigsky770) :vbroll:




It's alright your title is better than mine anyways lol..i understand thow.. thanks

[Houston411]

1) Many will come in the name of Christ and deceive many (Matt.24,5; Mark 13,6; Luke 21,8)

2) There will be wars and rumours of wars between nations and kingdoms (Matt.24, 6-7; Mark 13,7-8; Luke,21,9-10).

3) The first sorrows will be in the form of calamities: 'famines, pestilences and earthquakes in divers places', fearful sights and great signs from heaven (Matt.24,7-8; Mark, 13,8; Luke 21,11). << 300,000 thousand people just died you be the judge)

4) Orthodox Christians will be delivered up, killed and hated by all nations (Matt. 24,9; Mark 13, 9-11; Luke 21,12-15).

5) Everywhere men will hate and betray each other (Matt.24,10; Mark 13,12-13; Luke 21,16-17).

6) Many false prophets will appear and deceive many (Matt.24,11).

7) On account of abundant iniquity (evil deeds and unrepented sin), the love of many will grow cold. Only those who endure to the end will be saved (Matt.24,12-13; Mark 13,13; Luke 21,19).

8) The Gospel will be preached throughout the world 'for a witness unto all nations' (Matt.24,14; Mark 13,10).

9) After this Jews will become Orthodox Christians (Romans 11,25-28).

10) Preparations will be made for the coming of Antichrist, called the son of perdition and the beast. Preceded by false prophets and false signs and wonders, Antichrist will be a master of illusion, of 'shock and awe', taking away people's freedom, but making them think that they have been freed. He will persecute the true servants of Christ with rage and fury. The Temple in Jerusalem will be rebuilt for him to be enthroned there in the place of Christ - hence his name 'Antichrist', he who comes in the place of Christ (Matt, 24,15-24; Mark 13,14-22; 2 Thess.3-11; 1 John 2,18; Rev.13,1-8).

11) Signs will appear in the heavens, the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light, the stars will fall from heaven, the sea and the waves will roar and the powers of heaven will be shaken (Matt.24,29; Mark,13,24-25; Luke 21,25-26).

12) The sign of the Son of man (the Cross) will appear in the heavens and then will take place the Second Coming of Christ with power and great glory. Angels will be sent and shall gather the elect together 'from the four winds' (Matt.24,30-31; Mark 13,26-27, Luke 21,27).

1) Would have to be the mormons...
2) Its been like that since the dawn of time.
3) No signs from Heaven yet.
4) A second holocaust? not yet.
5) Thats called reality.
6) Like the little boy raping priests?
7) So those who love will only make it to the end?
8) It is preeched everywhere, too much in other places if you ask me.
9) The jews will remain jewish.
10) Thank you Nostrodmas.
11) nope, not yet either.
12) But what about people who "see" things.

1,2,5,6,8 and 12 have happened.

So "Don't belive the internet" so, dissregard this one too?

[EnDRuSh]

1) Would have to be the mormons...
2) Its been like that since the dawn of time.
3) No signs from Heaven yet.
4) A second holocaust? not yet.
5) Thats called reality.
6) Like the little boy raping priests?
7) So those who love will only make it to the end?
8) It is preeched everywhere, too much in other places if you ask me.
9) The jews will remain jewish.
10) Thank you Nostrodmas.
11) nope, not yet either.
12) But what about people who "see" things.

1,2,5,6,8 and 12 have happened.

So "Don't belive the internet" so, dissregard this one too?


1)Over the centuries many have indeed come, saying that they are Christ and they have deceived many..
2)The twentieth century especially but also already the beginning of the twenty-first century, have been marked by 'wars and rumours of wars'.
3)The third sign, 'natural' (i.e. unnnatural) disasters, has been taking place, as 'famines, pestilences and earthquakes' are occurring all over the world..
4)Orthodox Christians have everywhere been 'delivered up, killed and hated'.
5)The modern world seems to be full of more 'hatred and betrayal' then ever if you dont agree with that then something is wrong with you.
6)False prophets already abound and 'deceive many'.
7)Iniquity, now abounds and the love of many is indeed growing cold.
8)The Gospel is being preached throughout the world as, with the freeing of Russia and global population movements, Orthodox Christianity is now spreading throughout the world. A time is coming when there will be no man who has not heard of the Orthodox Church.
9)The fact is also that many Jews, in Russia at least, have in recent years been baptised into the Orthodox Church.
10) ...
11) ...
12) ...

If this is the case, then we are now awaiting the preparation of the tenth sign. What can we say of this, the final preparation for the coming of Antichrist?

Certainly, there is now an abundance of false prophets claiming to speak in the name of Christ.

Through modern technology, signs and wonders, unthinkable even a few years ago, now take place.

As the father of lies (John 8,44), Antichrist's master plan of illusion is everywhere in evidence. It is present through the propaganda ('spin') of modern media, advertising and marketing, the conformist drug of television, computer trickery and other electronic technology, the levelling down of modern education -'ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth' (2 Timothy 3,7). Through these instruments of control, the masses are manipulated and enslaved to delusion by those in whose interest it is to manipulate them. Wisdom leaves the city.

Imagining that they are still free, the masses are enslaved in debt to usurers. This debt is cleverly concealed under the illusion of its opposite -'credit', the 'freedom' to buy whatever they want whenever they want.

The illusions of global unity and peace are promised through physical comforts. These are granted at the price of freedom, which must be surrendered to self-proclaimed 'democrats', in fact, dictators.

Through apostasy from faith in the Risen Christ, apostates lose their freedom from the fear of death, the Resurrection faith which is now everywhere being denied. These apostates, fearing bodily death, will be psychologically enslaved to the Master of illusion and willing to do anything in order to hold onto their earthly lives. Antichrist will come to occupy the now vacant throne in men's souls.

Fierce persecution of the last remaining servants of Christ, still faithful to the Resurrection and resisting Antichrist, will begin once more.

Since the return of the Jews to the Holy Land and the establishment of the Jewish State, plans have been drawn up for the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem and the coming worship of Antichrist there.

[vtf]

Number five is quite true so to speak, "Everywhere men will hate and betray each other." Thats only been around since the time of creation. I've had twelve happen to me, except it was dark outside I was in the car, there was nothing to create a shadow, and Christ appeared before me (in a very clear format) on the cross, it was only then after I turned my head away He was gone.

[Houston411]

1)Over the centuries many have indeed come, saying that they are Christ and they have deceived many..
2)The twentieth century especially but also already the beginning of the twenty-first century, have been marked by 'wars and rumours of wars'.
3)The third sign, 'natural' (i.e. unnnatural) disasters, has been taking place, as 'famines, pestilences and earthquakes' are occurring all over the world..
4)Orthodox Christians have everywhere been 'delivered up, killed and hated'.
5)The modern world seems to be full of more 'hatred and betrayal' then ever if you dont agree with that then something is wrong with you.
6)False prophets already abound and 'deceive many'.
7)Iniquity, now abounds and the love of many is indeed growing cold.
8)The Gospel is being preached throughout the world as, with the freeing of Russia and global population movements, Orthodox Christianity is now spreading throughout the world. A time is coming when there will be no man who has not heard of the Orthodox Church.
9)The fact is also that many Jews, in Russia at least, have in recent years been baptised into the Orthodox Church.
10) ...
11) ...
12) ...

If this is the case, then we are now awaiting the preparation of the tenth sign. What can we say of this, the final preparation for the coming of Antichrist?

Certainly, there is now an abundance of false prophets claiming to speak in the name of Christ.

Through modern technology, signs and wonders, unthinkable even a few years ago, now take place.

As the father of lies (John 8,44), Antichrist's master plan of illusion is everywhere in evidence. It is present through the propaganda ('spin') of modern media, advertising and marketing, the conformist drug of television, computer trickery and other electronic technology, the levelling down of modern education -'ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth' (2 Timothy 3,7). Through these instruments of control, the masses are manipulated and enslaved to delusion by those in whose interest it is to manipulate them. Wisdom leaves the city.

Imagining that they are still free, the masses are enslaved in debt to usurers. This debt is cleverly concealed under the illusion of its opposite -'credit', the 'freedom' to buy whatever they want whenever they want.

The illusions of global unity and peace are promised through physical comforts. These are granted at the price of freedom, which must be surrendered to self-proclaimed 'democrats', in fact, dictators.

Through apostasy from faith in the Risen Christ, apostates lose their freedom from the fear of death, the Resurrection faith which is now everywhere being denied. These apostates, fearing bodily death, will be psychologically enslaved to the Master of illusion and willing to do anything in order to hold onto their earthly lives. Antichrist will come to occupy the now vacant throne in men's souls.

Fierce persecution of the last remaining servants of Christ, still faithful to the Resurrection and resisting Antichrist, will begin once more.

Since the return of the Jews to the Holy Land and the establishment of the Jewish State, plans have been drawn up for the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem and the coming worship of Antichrist there.

The First one, yah ok.
2.); Rumors of war and war have happened more so in previous centuries then this one. Even since Feudalistic times, "Oh, the Castle of blah blah blah is preparing for war, they might strike here" so thats from the get go.
3.) : "Natural Disasters" have happened since the dawn of time. Call me crazy, but "Natural Disaster" is what created this world, right?
4.) No common man knows this.
5.) Since man began, hatred, jealousy, and betrayal is a way of life.
6.) Some could say Jesus was a false prophet...
7.) Actually, religion is on the upswing, if you'll notice the cookie-cutter christ shops in every mall. (sales are going good, you can ask them yourself.)
8.) If anyone knows any common knolegde taught in school, they would know about Martin Luther, and even the St. Basil's cathedral.
9.) So, there has been a ever-rising increase in catheloics.
10.) yah
11.) yup
12.) hmm

Anything can be interpreted as a "sign". Ever see a cloud formation your friend didn't get? To you, it could have been a sign of death, to him, maybe just another cloud. See what I'm getting at?

Modern Technology... So we can now admit ghosts also exsist with EVP and THS?

Call me crazy, but modern technology is a good thing.

So you don't want people to spend the money that they earn, ultimatly destroying nations and economies?

Bush bashing ok, we get it, your a true earthly democrate. Thank you Kerry...

Simply because some stop "beliving", doesn't mean someone will brain-wash them over... I think they just got over brain washing, and maybe the fact because they are not religious.

...

What plans? what source do you have? Maybe there building it for there faith, and love for there god. You cannot completely dissrespect other religions simply because your bias, and think its not "right" to not belive in anything BUT jesus.

Didn't jesus love everyone? Anyone? I think your just brainwashed by what the apostiles wrote and said it was god... Its a line of rules for the ancient rule, a "police" or justice system if you will... Put fear in there hearts and morals in there brains, and you keep the peace. If jesus loved everyone, my dear friend, then the church would not only be obligated to except all faiths (including non-faith), blacks, whites, jews, gays, liberals, etc... No, the church does not. Thats bending the rules if you ask me.

I'm not trying to be sac-religious... but your shoving the bible down our throats, and expecting us to fear god, or else. or else what? the end of the world... So you come up with anything to excuse it as a "sign" one of the 12 holy signs of the world's demise. How exactly do you know its the exact sign it was intended.

Its kind of like those TV pyscics (forgive my horendous spelling). They can prove anything simply by saying the right words. Its easily done. The apostiles simply wrote down somthing that was enibitible anyhow.

Love sincerely,

-Houston411

[mysticalzoe]

From what i understand with number 12 everyone will see this sign not just a few selected people the whole word will see the cross, in the sky! even non believers will see it, so no that has not happened yet!

Jessica

[EnDRuSh]

From what i understand with number 12 everyone will see this sign not just a few selected people the whole word will see the cross, in the sky! even non believers will see it, so no that has not happened yet!

Jessica





( EXACTLY ) =)

[vtf]

True, but right now people are on the verge of calling me insane, with all my articles, true talks, things from the bible etc...Now number 6 "Many false prophets will appear and deceive many", that can only be simply described by the work of Satan who will bring forth a false Christ who people will think is the true Christ and who will preach the word of hatred and lead the faithful astray, during the End of Days, other then that in this generation, its only to obvious to say that is happening.

[restin]

EndRuSh, did you know some of those signs have happened?... The day the stars fell, Nov 13,1833, and the Great Dark Day of May 19,1780 , and the moon turning to blood the following night, are thought by many to be fulfillment of the prophecies in the book of Matthew. Look up "The Dark Day of 1780" in the topic of American history on your computer, and it is a recorded fact. Also the "Day the Stars Fell in 1833" is also an event recorded in newspapers and history books. You can look that up on your PC, too.

Trouble is, when anything doesn't fit the ordinary pre-conceived principles of current science, it tends to get shuffled to the end of the list and hopefully forgotten by everyone. Embarrassing, you know.

[B.NyeTheUruk-Hai]

Trouble is, when anything doesn't fit the ordinary pre-conceived principles of current science, it tends to get shuffled to the end of the list and hopefully forgotten by everyone. Embarrassing, you know.
You're kidding, right? 90% of my questions get the runaround from Christians here because the answers are too difficult for them to handle because they easily explain and contradict their beliefs. I'm afraid that it's religious folk who tend to put things on the backburner and hope that they go away. Science is CONSTANTLY striving to find answers. Science doesn't put things on the backburner whereas religious zealots DO. If the answers cannot be found, then science continues to hunt for them. Embarrassing? Why would science be embarrassed because it can't explain everything? Science simply keeps going and keeps searching for the answers. And by the way, how is science supposed to explain something that happened 172 years ago with only the observations of superstitious onlookers as evidence? So your thinking is that, since science can't 100% explain this 1833 phenomenon, then it must be Biblical Armageddon prophecies come true!!! After all, it's much easier to believe in such an ENORMOUS leap in logic that you've made as opposed to realizing the INCREDIBLY obvious and INCREDIBLY logical explanation that this 1833 event was simply... oh, I don't know... the Leonid meteor shower which happens ALL THE TIME. Stars did NOT fall from the sky - METEORS did. And how LONG are these 12 signs going to be drawn out? The "stars fell from the sky" 170 YEARS AGO. Still waiting for Armageddon. Hello? Armageddon? Freaking hilarious. Just read all of the posts that you guys have made here. You talk about unbelievably VAGUE and FANTASTICAL Biblical prophecies and the end of the world as though it is all fact, and then in the same breath you refute HARD scientific FACT which very simply and logically explains everything! Hmmmm, "stars" falling which indicates the end of the world where a monster with seven heads and ten horns with ten crowns on each horn will SOON appear (170 years and STILL waiting) and smite us all VERSUS Leonid meteor shower. I'm having trouble deciding which is the more realistic scenario. Embarrassing indeed...


From what i understand with number 12 everyone will see this sign not just a few selected people the whole word will see the cross, in the sky! even non believers will see it, so no that has not happened yet!
How did you come to this understanding?

[restin]

B.NyeTheUrukHai, You're a very intelligent, scientific individual, but I must say that it seems to me you have such an intense, passionate cause to explain away everything religious. And maybe one reason, respectfully maybe, is so that you can defend against the thought God could really be up there. If you should consider that possibility for even a second, maybe there is concern in some part of you that God might get you for something you've done or some way you are. (I'm not accusing, just suggesting). I believe God would think very highly of you and want to be in your inner world as well as your outer, scientific world. It seems so much energy goes into telling us your scientific answer, to tear down our religious belief, putting us down hard as ignoramuses all the way. There are many high I.Q, highly educated people who believe science explains how God does things and that God is also over and above science, You would not be diminished a bit by considering that God could be a part of universe.

[Houston411]

As people get smarter, so does science.

The bible was simply a code of conduct, and explained things. Kind of like the Greek Gods, infact exactly like the gods.

Now that Science can explain certain issues, even the religion refuse to agree with, it simply proves that these "signs" are not signs, but rather natural events.

Great post B.NyeTheUruk-Hai

[vtf]

As people get smarter, so does science.

The bible was simply a code of conduct, and explained things. Kind of like the Greek Gods, infact exactly like the gods.

Now that Science can explain certain issues, even the religion refuse to agree with, it simply proves that these "signs" are not signs, but rather natural events.

Great post B.NyeTheUruk-Hai


Natural events that occurred over 2000 years ago? The Bible is a code of truth and nothing but the truth, even science cant explain various things in phenomena. Religious Phenomena statements are/have been able to be supported by proof. The Bible tells us things of hints and clues as to this generation and "hopefully" the generations come. I believe that God created science to hide various things to be discovered completely differently of what they truly are, and no I am not against God I am actually a very faithful catholic who has witness these few, miny-tiny-phenomena.

[Sammy56]

The first sorrows will be in the form of calamities: 'famines, pestilences and earthquakes in divers places', fearful sights and great signs from heaven.


What does this mean? Earthquakes underwater?

[Houston411]

Natural events that occurred over 2000 years ago? The Bible is a code of truth and nothing but the truth, even science cant explain various things in phenomena. Religious Phenomena statements are/have been able to be supported by proof. The Bible tells us things of hints and clues as to this generation and "hopefully" the generations come. I believe that God created science to hide various things to be discovered completely differently of what they truly are, and no I am not against God I am actually a very faithful catholic who has witness these few, miny-tiny-phenomena.
No its not truth...

Were was jesus in 2000?

Science can prove everything, but we have yet to find the anwsers. Its up the human's immagination (or eye of the beholder) to decide science, or god. If a sun-set is pretty, is it because of the particular amout of nitrogen in the air, the form of the clouds, the hole in the ozone layer, the heat of the sun? Or is it god smiling down on us.

Its science thank you.

[vtf]

No its not truth...

Were was jesus in 2000?

Science can prove everything, but we have yet to find the anwsers. Its up the human's immagination (or eye of the beholder) to decide science, or god. If a sun-set is pretty, is it because of the particular amout of nitrogen in the air, the form of the clouds, the hole in the ozone layer, the heat of the sun? Or is it god smiling down on us.

Its science thank you.

Explain to me as to why Jesus "should" have been here in the year 2000, He shall not come until the "Second Coming of Chirst." Though, some say He is overdue, some say He is already here, if He is here I intend to help find Him, and by so doing, protect Him. God, permitted science for a reason, and it wasnt because He wanted His work to be undone. Every living thing is of Gods creation unless you choose to worship Satan, which a few people do.

God created the sun, He created man, He created the universe, and He permitted science for a reason as to which we will never know.

[Houston411]

the bible said 2000.

b/s people are crazy and will belive anything you tell them.

Religion = Crutch of the humans

[vtf]

A generation in the Bible is 40 years. 2007, well for the End of Days. You see its been there so many times before, but man has been able to stop it from fully unleashing it, I pray that man will stop it again like its done so before.

Religion = Unity, a sense of belonging, a sense of knowing.

[Houston411]

Religion = A crutch for the week minded.

Everyone predicts the end of the world. Why should someone not belive some hobo on the street, and a book written in the 60s.

[vtf]

People are not weak minded due to religion. No matter what they be. That includes Pagan.

[Houston411]

People are not weak minded due to religion. No matter what they be. That includes Pagan.
Most are, if they follow "the good book" correctly, and often 100% close minded!

[Sammy56]

Most religious people are not 100% close minded. Yes, I've seen quite a few who say they are right and everyone else is wrong, but here on AO that has been a minority. I've seen more religious people try to use logic in their arguments and they are far from close minded.

[B.NyeTheUruk-Hai]

B.NyeTheUrukHai, You're a very intelligent, scientific individual, but I must say that it seems to me you have such an intense, passionate cause to explain away everything religious. And maybe one reason, respectfully maybe, is so that you can defend against the thought God could really be up there. If you should consider that possibility for even a second, maybe there is concern in some part of you that God might get you for something you've done or some way you are. (I'm not accusing, just suggesting). I believe God would think very highly of you and want to be in your inner world as well as your outer, scientific world. It seems so much energy goes into telling us your scientific answer, to tear down our religious belief, putting us down hard as ignoramuses all the way. There are many high I.Q, highly educated people who believe science explains how God does things and that God is also over and above science, You would not be diminished a bit by considering that God could be a part of universe.
Hi, restin. My apologies for coming on a little strong. My point is simply that science is about as objective as you can get. Science has NO agenda. Science does NOT hope that certain phenomena are explained in a certain way. Science is UNBIASED. Science does not care what the results and explanations are or what their consequences entail. Science simply observes and records with the intention to explain. The fact that science cannot currently explain EVERYTHING is FAR from embarrassing. Science simply continues to strive to FIND these explanations.

And regarding God, I actually HAVE spent MUCH time contemplating whether God exists or not. After much deliberation, I have concluded that we CANNOT EVER tell whether God exists or not unless he SHOWS HIMSELF! WHY does God not show himself? That's ALL that he has to do! Simple! As such, I consider myself to be agnostic. I don't BELIEVE in God, but I keep alive the possibility that God MIGHT exist despite my beliefs to the contrary. My apologies for giving the impression that I consider religious people to be ignoramuses. This is far from the truth. I have much respect for many religious posters on these forums, but it bothers me when some others completely disregard science and belittle science. In reality, Christianity has had roughly 2000 years in the spotlight and mankind crawled along at a snail's pace during that time, practically stagnating. With the coming of modern science and the understanding of the world and universe around us as the 20th century approached, humanity has made incredible LEAPS forward and our species has advanced at a relentless pace. Take a good look around you and give thanks to modern science for the amazing quality of living that you currently enjoy. Science is responsible. Now take a look at some countries where modern science has not been adopted. In such third world countries, all they have is religion and they live in poverty and squalor. I took exception to your belittling of science and felt that you were being ungrateful despite the fact that all aspects of your life are PERMEATED with the fruits of science. I'm just trying to say to have more respect for science. If not for science, we'd all be living in a third world...

[vtf]

Most religious people are not 100% close minded. Yes, I've seen quite a few who say they are right and everyone else is wrong, but here on AO that has been a minority. I've seen more religious people try to use logic in their arguments and they are far from close minded.

Call me different, I've little use for logic in my arguements. :crazy: Its a word that screws up arguements, ah well...to me.

Now as for your post B.Nye, thats just the problem, God has shown Himself to me, I've seen Him and I've heard Him, if I tell the authorities of my state its to the nuthouse for me. It really all comes down to what you believe. *Shrugs* many people think I can prove He exsists because of my articles, No! I cannot. My articles are on a single/few topics where I make statements and find proof and support, type thing...not to fully prove that God exsists. Because I cant.:crazy:

[B.NyeTheUruk-Hai]

Now as for your post B.Nye, thats just the problem, God has shown Himself to me, I've seen Him and I've heard Him, if I tell the authorities of my state its to the nuthouse for me.
Please tell me about your experience. I am legitimately interested and you have my word that I will not ridicule or belittle you. Atheists and agnostics will never understand your point of view if we never hear stories such as yours...

[Bigsky770]

. . .Only too clearly. But then, it is because I WANT TO BELIEVE/as you yourself probably do. Who REALLY WANTS there to be 'nothing more' after all of this? For are we to return, rotting flesh and dried dust to the primordial soup from whence we came? To only know nothingness and darkness because someone of a more 'scientific' frame of mind states that this is all we should know? Then too, I must maintain ALSO the presence of MIND in that IF I WANT to believe in something so fiercely, would I be as a mind to "making this all up as I go along?"
. . .For some, the presence or relevance that "GOD IS" is so powerful in the way that "this entity" of "GOD IS" makes itself known in our lives day-to-day, it is as something that never quite takes the same form twice, and can yet be any and all things that we draw special meaning from; To be 'connected' one looks for the meaning in each and every day, and what lessons it is trying to teach you singularly, constantly looking BEYOND TO DEEPER MEANING. You can use these meanings and symbolism as a point of focus during meditation that will aid you in your day-to-day life. . .
. . .I can find meaning in a hummingbird that swims effortless in the air so-very-close to my ear that I can discern the wing-beats humming, or the rain falling on my face as I sit in the woods, feeling like I belong to all, and am a part of it, and at the end of my days will become as one with it all/understanding as I am, that with an end there are no ends, but only new beginnings, constant and ever-changing.
. . .My beliefs do not fit the context "proper" of "Catholicism" (or) any of the "isms", so-to-speak. . .This is what I have come to know. I don't "go" to church either on Wednesdays or Sundays, I don't believe that's what God is about/NOR did he want. Though it is said that the "Bible" was inspired of God and written by men, I can see where man would have tainted it's ultimate meaning in their vain attempts at trying to convey this to other men/it is utterly rife with too many contradictions to suppose that it's the so-called 'TRUE' word of God to go by. Aside from which, there's just too many gaps to bridge in the deviations between the "Old" and the "New" testaments that they are two different religions entirely, and the latter not necessarily being the fulfillment of the former anyway. Catholism took this and twisted it's intended meaning IF there was ever a lesson to be taught by a one such as Jesus to a parody of the farce that it is. Ask yourself, "Do you think that "Jesus" meant for things to be as they are now, not only in the world/but also within the Catholic Church?" I sincerely doubt it. . .

. . .But (Getting off my 'rant') I will say that I BELIEVE because I must/If that includes me with the crazies, well then so be it. . .

Joe (Bigsky770) :crazy:

[10 uh c]

Hey guys,
For me one of those signs of the end of our world everyone is looking / waiting for without a doubt is the hole in the ozone. If nothing else ever happens like Yellowstone, nukes, asteroids or what ever. If ozone depletion continues at it's current rate in 30 years this will be someone going outside without their space suit :52: Now I would think man would be very hard pressed to live on this planet without it's dome. people say all these things has happened before and the world never ended. Well we've never had this big ole hollie ozone before! So If your looking for a sign you need to be reading this one because it says "YOUR PLANET IS DYING SOON!"
But never fear Jesus is near!

[Houston411]

Most religious people are not 100% close minded. Yes, I've seen quite a few who say they are right and everyone else is wrong, but here on AO that has been a minority. I've seen more religious people try to use logic in their arguments and they are far from close minded.
Most are.

"No Gay Marriage"
"Gays are blah blah blah"
"Atheists are ' ' ' "
"Cathloics are wrong because of"
"Muslims are wrong because..."

and the list goes on...

[B.NyeTheUruk-Hai]

THERE'S A 13th SIGN !!!

The inability of Jesus Christ to obtain a driver's license can only mean ONE thing... that the end of the world is NIGH !!! Click on the link below for the blasphemous details:

Jesus Christ unable to get his driver's license !!! (http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/05/10/jesus.lawsuit.ap/index.html)

RUN TO THE HILLS !!! RUUUUUUUUUUNNNN !!!

[Bigsky770]

THAT made my day. Thanx for the laughs, Bill!

Joe (Bigsky770) :vbroll:

[dcookcan]

. . . it is because I WANT TO BELIEVE. . .
. . .I can find meaning in a hummingbird that swims effortless in the air . . .
. . .My beliefs do not fit the context "proper" of "Catholicism" (or) any of the "isms", so-to-speak. . . Catholism took this and twisted it's intended meaning . . . Ask yourself, "Do you think that "Jesus" meant for things to be as they are now, not only in the world/but also within the Catholic Church?" I sincerely doubt it. . .

Joe (Bigsky770) :crazy:

Preach it brother Joe!

[Bigsky770]

. . .(I did promise B. Nye that I would spread the 'gospel' of "Jedianity" far and wide, and Joe always does his level-best at keeping his promises). . .

CAN I HAVE AN AYAMEN!!!

Joe (Bigsky770) :vbroll:

[B.NyeTheUruk-Hai]

AYAMENNNNNNNAH !!!

Can you sense it? I said, CAN YOU SENSE IT? That's RIGHT! A momentous time in Jedianity is approaching! The signs are all there to herald the coming of the THIRD GOSPEL of LUCAS:

[1] Quick, 30-second, commercials with Jedianity images will appear on television approximately two weeks prior to the coming of the Third Gospel.

[2] Toy store shelves will SWELL with miniature idols of Jedianity characters.

[3] Jedianity images will spontaneously appear on Doritos bags around the world.

[4] Massive pilgrimages to movie theaters will occur, and these pilgrims will spend weeks standing in line in order to show their faith to the Jedianity religion.

[5] Jedianity images will also spontaneously appear on bottles of Pepsi around the world.

[6] Many Jedianity disciples will strangely begin talking using backwards grammar in a high-pitched growling voice.

[7] Dutchie will inexplicably begin utilizing his wangsaber with more frequency and more vigor than ever before.

Not only are these signs occurring everywhere, but I have had personal experience regarding the coming of the Third Gospel of Lucas. I went to my local theater and approached a machine called an Ayteeyem. Within this ayteeyem was contained information about the coming of the Third Gospel of Lucas. It spat out several tickets which will give me access to the Third Gospel on May 21st, although the Gospel will be available for people to see on May 19th. The signs are unmistakable! The coming of the Third Gospel is nigh ( or Nye ). REPENT !!!

[DaSoviet]

*Highjacks*

sorry, just a little thing I thought I would share. My meaning of the Bible is this:

B . I . B . L . E

Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth!

*Gets out of the drivers seat and lets Jesus hop in*

[B.NyeTheUruk-Hai]

*Highjacks*
sorry, just a little thing I thought I would share. My meaning of the Bible is this:
B . I . B . L . E
Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth!
*Gets out of the drivers seat and lets Jesus hop in*
NOOOOOO !!! You CAN'T let Jesus drive! He doesn't have his license yet!

[dutchie]

[7] Dutchie will inexplicably begin utilizing his wangsaber with more frequency and more vigor than ever before.No way, Bill.. The burns under my nose just healed, and I'm still waiting for my moustache to grow back.. So TEOTWAWKI will have to wait a few months, I'm afraid...

[mysticalzoe]

So houston, would you consider someone who is BISEXUAL, and a believer in God close minded, also someone who believes in ghosts, evolution, UFO's, Aliens, Bigfoot, and even the mythical chupacra, close minded? I think not! I believe in all of those, and i also believe the bible to be 100 percent accurate, I am far from close minded, I also believe in psychics, and new age beliefs, but I am not close minded. My husband who does not believe in God, or the bible is very close minded, so not all beleivers in God are weak minded or close minded, so next time please think about what you are posting! From my experience the ones who are close minded have been the non-believers, and yes I have met many!

Jessica :Bott:

[dutchie]

Hey Jessica! Long time no see...

Um.. I think close minded does not mean that you can believe and/or be whatever or whoever you want, but more a tendency to discard all opinions OTHER than your own as being untrue..

[mysticalzoe]

I totally agree! I don't think everything I say is right either, I know i am very wrong in a lot of what i say and believe, it just pisses me off when people think of people who believe that the bible is right are close minded, and they are not. I hate to say this but I believe Vox is the only person here who believes he is right and everyone else is wrong, and I think that is very wrong! I like other people's opinions, and a lot of what people say here is kind of cool, and I like to see other people voice their opinions, and i was voicing mine. For the record because I am bisexual doesn't mean I act upon it, I had to throw that out as well! :headbang:

Jessica

[dutchie]

That's cool, no problem, thanks for having the courage to share that! :2thumbs: :respect:

[repentantsinner]

It is written that the end times will come upon the world as a snare, that it will catch most people asleep, people will be crying "peace and safety" You knoe EnDrUsh you quoted Jesus that nobody knows when Jesus will come back. That verb he used knows or knoweth is a present tense verb. Nobody knew AT THAT TIME. rEAD THE SCRIPTURES jESUS SAYS THERE EILL NE SIGNS SO THAT SOME WILL NOT BE ASLEEP. rEAD YOUR BIBLE CAREFULLY, Jesus said "so as in the days of Noah" study the days of Noah and study the timeline given in the book of Daniel. "Seek and ye shall find"

[mysticalzoe]

I may just do that thanks!

[Jake99]

EndRush

Only 1 man that you know of actually claimed to be the christ and that was Jesus. Yes their have been a few nuts but they were exposed in one way or another. The others such as the churches and so called believers are saying they represent him which could not be further from the truth. That which causes and cures cancer is a system not a science which is why you cannot cure it if you keep operaating the same system. The same philosophy applies to all other problems of this planet. Bad directions and systems equal bad leaders and bad destinations, and this is the worst destination possible. So if you are following anyone who believes that this system can be salvaged and continued then you are going in the wrong direction. Its the difference between Satan creating jobs and getting nothing done and Christ eliminating jobs and getting everything done quickly and easily. Efficiency is the art of eliminating non productive overhead which is that which uses up manpower and materials at an alarming rate. Banking, taxation. advertising and sales are just a few of the jobs that need to be eliminated so we can use manpower and materials wisely and keep a parent with a child as much as possible. Educate over the internet and you need very few teachers and only one language. The prophesies have been fullfilled and the only thing left to happen is for you to listen to the man who is going in the opposite direction and follow him. Dont be afraid he works smart not hard and he loves everyone, especially his enimies.

[dcookcan]

EndRush

Only 1 man that you know of actually claimed to be the christ and that was Jesus. Yes their have been a few nuts but they were exposed in one way or another.

Jesus did not make that claim. Read the bible a little closer or please show me where he actually made that claim.

[Haliburton]

I totally agree! I don't think everything I say is right either, I know i am very wrong in a lot of what i say and believe, it just pisses me off when people think of people who believe that the bible is right are close minded, and they are not. I hate to say this but I believe Vox is the only person here who believes he is right and everyone else is wrong, and I think that is very wrong! I like other people's opinions, and a lot of what people say here is kind of cool, and I like to see other people voice their opinions, and i was voicing mine. For the record because I am bisexual doesn't mean I act upon it, I had to throw that out as well! :headbang:

Jessica
I agree i believe in the bible and i believe in other things as well. All people who believe in jesus and the bible are not close minded. Your last sentence though has me confused. If you are bisexual and don't act upon it then how do you know you are. Maybe i'm just not getting what your saying.

[B.NyeTheUruk-Hai]

I personally believe that Jessica not acting upon her bisexuality is DEFINITELY a sign that the end of the world is near. That, and it's a crying shame... :drool:

[Jake99]

DCookcan

I dont read the bible so I never quote it. I stand alone in my beliefs which I have heard are closely aligned with the bible. I actually practice what you preach automatically because I am not educated by the ways of this world. This world and the leaders you vote for and seek guidance from are the furthest from what they preach. Christ stands alone for a reason: he is the only one going in the right direction because he too was not of this world. You will never defeat terrorism with force. You cannot be the solution when you are the problem. If every nation was as wasteful as the U.S., the world would have been out of business years ago, its not too late to change and promote efficient management of resorces as a way of life. Everytime a bullit is fired at a person its intent is to kill. Thou shall not kill, I believe is in the bible somewhere. The only problem is your leaders are too dumb to comply with sound advice and run a simple system, so they kill to stp protests and say god bless America. Love your enemy and you will win his love in return. Kill your enemy and he will forever be your enemy.

[johnb1]

DCookcan

I dont read the bible so I never quote it. I stand alone in my beliefs which I have heard are closely aligned with the bible. I actually practice what you preach automatically because I am not educated by the ways of this world. This world and the leaders you vote for and seek guidance from are the furthest from what they preach. Christ stands alone for a reason: he is the only one going in the right direction because he too was not of this world. You will never defeat terrorism with force. You cannot be the solution when you are the problem. If every nation was as wasteful as the U.S., the world would have been out of business years ago, its not too late to change and promote efficient management of resources as a way of life. Every time a bullit is fired at a person its intent is to kill. Thou shall not kill, I believe is in the bible somewhere. The only problem is your leaders are too dumb to comply with sound advice and run a simple system, so they kill to stp protests and say god bless America. Love your enemy and you will win his love in return. Kill your enemy and he will forever be your enemy.

Revelations 1:3 approximation of reading the Bible may take 2-3 months but understanding it more deeply even if we DIE and do not know ALL what are the meaning in the BIBLE search more DATA and FACTS or experience is not enough also BUT Submitting your self TO GOD, GOD will give U wisdom MARK 4:11-12 Search the TRUTH all over the world THRU internet,travel meeting people news BOOKS or any story that lead us To WHOM and who is GOD sent To teach us to read Properly THE BIBLE, the Question is WHO?
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[Jake99]

JohnB1

I am the man that understands the bible the way it was meant which is not the way it is taught by any of the religious people. You cannot do all the things Jesus prohibited and then go to church and read a book that clearly instructs you to get on a different path and say you are in any way aligned with Christ. When you look at the odds of 1 man saying that all others are wrong then the meaning of the book to that person changes dramatically. And when you link that and the tons of other information surrounding the life of that man you find that I performed hundreds of prophesies by way of my actions. Some mathmatician claimed that for one man to perform even 8 prophesies in 1 lifetime would be enough evidence to prove his identity as the massiah and I have performed so many that a few hundred is a good estimate. This I worked on since I was a small boy because I knew I was the one who was different, with abilities and understanding far above others and I put those abilities to proper use in one public demonstration after another.

[johnb1]

What if I will read on the BIBLE that you are not telling the Truth? off-course you will get angry at me or in the bible for what is says it is true or not? Cut the crap and test our spirits

Even I can say what you are saying but it is not worth in living (^^,) for not thinking the whole world all people to be saved...you cannot escape to all the questions jake99 The BIBLE will answer that you are wrong in a long running debate get best of the best quotes.

And I have my own BIBLE (^^,) come on don't be like an old king Solomon..... I appreciate your personal experience since child hood.. your getting selfish for not showing it to the whole and everybody just like Bro Eli is Doing are you afraid of something.

besides I'm not saying always with my own, most of them comes from GOD wants all of us to know (^^,)I know it's kind a weird explanation again to all of you because you tell me to relax, be normal and enjoy life many more etc etc. BIBLE and other great books always answer (^^,) it is inevitable when we learn to follow the good teachings of OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.

I am not living with my own flesh no more but in the TEACHINGS of JESUS CHRIST
our Lord and Saviour or whatever others many language call to him....it's all the same

Philippians 1:15-17 I don't want to divide us in many conflict...(-_-)

15It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill. 16The latter do so in love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. 17The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains.[

Which side you are? tell me? answer wisely or you will be trap? by your own sharp tongue the most sinnest part of our body

Sins of the Tongue

Much can be said of a person's character by the way they use their tongue. Sanaca once said, "Speech is the index of the mind." Jesus said that "out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh." (Mat. 12:34) According to Proverbs 18:21, "Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof." In James 3:6, the Bible says that the tongue is "a fire, a world of iniquity", and James 3:8 calls the tongue a "deadly poison."

As a fool would carelessly play and prank with a loaded gun, so many Christians today do likewise with their deadly tongue. If only we could fully realize the untold damage that we are doing to the body of Christ! If only we could see the full effect of the words we use!

Perhaps a closer look into the Bible can help. God made man, and God made man's tongue, so surely God should be qualified to comment on the subject. Surely God should have some good counsel concerning the use and misuse of the human tongue. Let us consider some sins of the tongue as we find them revealed in God's word.

The Lying Tongue

Proverbs 25:18 says, "A man that beareth false witness against his neighbour is a maul, and a sword, and a sharp arrow." So a lying tongue is a misuse of a deadly weapon. It can be used to harm others near at hand (a maul), a few feet away (a sword), or a great distance away (an arrow). Satan is the father of lies (John 8:44), and God said that he hates a lying tongue (Pro. 6:17). All liars will have their part in the lake of fire, according to Revelation 21:8.

The Flattering Tongue

Flattery is also a sin of the tongue. The Bible speaks of flattery as a characteristic of the wicked, not the righteous: "For there is no faithfulness in their mouth; their inward part is very wickedness; their throat is an open sepulchre; they flatter with their tongue." (Psalm 5:9) Imagine the improvements which could be made in our nation if voters elected leaders on the basis of the RECORD rather than on the basis of the flattering speeches! Flattery is just a form of lying, and it has no place in the life of a Christian.

The Proud Tongue

The Bible also speaks of the proud tongue. Psalm 12:3-4 says, "The LORD shall cut off all flattering lips, and the tongue that speaketh proud things: Who have said, With our tongue will we prevail; our lips are our own: who is lord over us?" The most annoying Christians in the world are those with proud tongues because a proud tongue usually comes with two closed ears! Proud- tongued Christians are generally so full of themselves that they learn very little from anyone else. A proud-tongued Christian will talk much of his knowledge and service, but very little about the Lord.

In a church, a proud-tongued Christian will make all sorts of suggestions about how the church should function, yet his suggestions, if received, will place burdens on everyone but himself. A proud- tongued Christian is hard to teach or reason with because he thinks he knows everything.

Friend, God hates a proud tongue. Allow the Holy Spirit to use your tongue in the way of humility and kindness because pride will only quench God's Spirit and damage your testimony.

The Overused Tongue

Some people sin by simply overusing their tongue. Ecclesiastes 5:3 says that "a fool's voice is known by multitude of words." People think they appear smart by much talking, but the Bible states just the opposite. Ecclesiastes 5:2 says, "Be not rash with thy mouth, and let not thine heart be hasty to utter any thing before God: for God is in heaven, and thou upon earth: therefore let thy words be few." God doesn't like a blabber mouth. You say, "Well, that's just the way I am!" Then REPENT! Confess your sin and repent. Stop justifying your wickedness and ask God to help you repent.

The Swift Tongue

Some people are guilty of speaking too swiftly when they really need to wait before saying anything. God's word says the following in Proverbs 18:13: "He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him." How many times have you had to "eat" your words because you spoke too swiftly? James 1:19 warns us to be swift to HEAR and SLOW to speak. Why do you suppose God gave us two ears but only one mouth?

The Backbiting Tongue

Proverbs 25:23 and Romans 1:30 make mention of a backbiting tongue. A backbiter is someone who uses their tongue against you when you aren't present, yet they will not face you with their charges when you are present. This is a cowardly backbiter who would rather stir up problems than solve problems.

A backbiter would much rather talk ABOUT the preacher than talk TO the preacher. A backbiter would much rather talk ABOUT some weak Christian in the church than offer some words of encouragement TO them. A backbiter is of no use to anyone, and no one has ever been strengthened or edified through backbiting. Beware of the backbiters, especially the ones who sow discord among brethren (Pro. 6:19)!

The Talebearing Tongue

Proverbs 18:8 says, "The words of a talebearer are as wounds, and they go down into the innermost parts of the belly." Leviticus 19:16 says, "Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people. . ." Every Christian has the duty to deny his own desires and seek to edify other Christians (Rom. 14:19; Philip. 2:3). Talebearing runs wholly contrary to Christian edification. Talebearing (carrying and telling tales) spreads all sorts of hurtful information around, and Satan uses such information to hinder and tear down God's work. A victim of talebearing, according to Proverbs, is a "wounded" person. God forbid that a Christian should wound another Christian, but it does happen all the time! Some Christians live as though they think God has "called" them to bear tales on other Christians. Many "Christian" newsletters are dedicated to informing the body of Christ on the latest news about someone's ministry or personal life. There are many nice words and phrases used to justify such conduct, but the Bible word is TALEBEARING.

The Cursing Tongue

Some people, Christians included, have a nasty habit of using their tongue for cursing. Romans 3:13-14 says, "Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness." This passage deals strictly with unsaved people and their ungodly ways, yet there are a great many professing Christians who curse regularly. Friend, why would you want to identify yourself with someone whom God describes as being DEAD, DECEITFUL, and POISON?

"As he loved cursing, so let it come unto him: as he delighted not in blessing, so let it be far from him. As he clothed himself with cursing like as with his garment, so let it come into his bowels like water, and like oil into his bones."(Psalm 109:17-18) Many people curse because their life is miserable. They are unhappy so they make it known with their degenerate speech. This text says that God keeps them unhappy BECAUSE of their speech! God curses those who curse! Christian, don't expect God's blessings when your mouth is filled with cursing.

The Piercing Tongue

Another sinful tongue is the piercing tongue. Proverbs 12:18 speaks of this tongue by saying, "There is that speaketh like the piercings of a sword: but the tongue of the wise is health." Some people have a sharp piercing tongue which Satan uses to offend and insult others. The Bible commands Christians to have their speech dominated by GRACE (Col. 4:6), yet most churches have a few people who use their tongue like a sword to pierce their brethren in Christ.

It was Teddy Roosevelt who said, "Speak softly and carry a big stick," but the truth is that if you speak softly you won't need a big stick! Titus 2:8 commands us to use sound speech which cannot be condemned. Friend, do you use graceful speech which cannot be evil spoken of, or do you possess a piercing tongue? Every Christian's prayer should be, "Lord, make my words gracious and tender, for tomorrow I may have to eat them."

The Silent Tongue

A silent tongue is also a sinful tongue because we have been commanded to speak up and witness for the Lord Jesus Christ. In Acts 1:8, Jesus said, "But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth." We, as Christians, have an obligation to tell others about the saving grace of Jesus. To be silent about Christ is to sin against Christ. Jesus said, "Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels." (Mark 8:38) Christian friend, if you do not want to be ashamed of yourself when the Lord returns, then don't be ashamed of Jesus today. Pray for opportunities to speak up for your Saviour. Don't be found guilty of having a silent tongue.

"For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body." (James 3:2)


Sorry for the Thread for this irrelevant quote (-_-) I will take him jake99 on the right thread topic


back to the TOPIC -----> 12 Signs it's not 12 (^^,) many more than 12 (^^,)

to be continued

In my Questions you cannot answer wisely for the benefit of the many......You don't have the to ask Bro Eli no more because I' me myself and the spirit of Love of GOD that dwells in my heart is enough for you...Ooopss don't be angry (-_-) My deepest apologies' What? in the first place why do I make apology to a person that cannot answer or read on the Bible. When I'm asking him for the TRUTH about SALVATION and HOPE...Oh I humbly say again I am very sorry GOD has Message for US please be aware (-_-) of it.................

Calling!!!! Mister Good Moderators Am I Right or Wrong? or need to rest never comeback in this forum again? I admit OH MY GOD it is very hard to Explain(-_-) but it's worth of the pain....

[Jake99]

johnb1,

I am not a follower of any religion and my tongue is the sharp powerful sword of truth that is so often depicted in scenes of christ speaking out against mans ways.

If you knew and followed as a religion the ways that Jesus spoke of then the world would not be as in trouble as it is.

Jesus rode a donkey into battle with the government and lost his life on a cross , I drove a chariot into battle against the US with a bow and arrows over my shoulder and dominated from start to finish.

I come befoe you not empty handed but with huge accomplishments in my wake that only one man could perform.