A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting its shoes on!

[Balder]

""If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.""


Hail!

First: i would like to say the following: if you find this thread inappropriate to the subject, please feel free to delete or move it!

Second: it will off course be without, my further participation!

Third: if your conclusion is; that i don't have anything new or constructive to say, then please say so!


I would like to thank all of you, for giving me the chance to express my thoughts, on a subject i find most important!

This subject can be explained, with two words:
CONTROL AND MANIPULATION!

I will start this thread, with some "small" thoughts and ideas. The reason for this is; I wouldn't like being rejected at start, because i have a hard time explaining my thoughts. I hope you all understand this.

But before you start questioning my motives and agendas, i would like to come clean.

*FNORD*

"They are in the walls, i can hear them."

"I sleep with my tinfoil hat on"

"President Bush is an reptilian alien"

*FNORD*

(Heavy sarcasm in statements above)


This thread will discuss; Governments/Corporations/Religion, and their influence on todays world as we see it.
Here are some of the "issues", i feel play a big part in the NWO and the OWO!

Prison Warder Conscious (4th Density)

Global Elite (Black Nobility, Illuminati, Committee of 300)

Illuminised Freemasonry, Knights of Malta,Skull and Bones society etc. etc.

Tavistock, Stanford, Rand institutes etc. MI6, CIA, Mossad, Interpol, Organized crime, Vatican, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, New Age etc. Banking system, Multi-National Oil cartel, Capitalism, Fascism, Communism, Zionism, Liberalism, Socialism, Green Politics.

Bank of international settlements, GATT, WTO.

Terroism, Agent provocateurs, Round table, Royal institute of international affairs, Bank of england, Federal reserve, other central banks, world bank, IMF.

Disinformation, media outlets, Arms trade, national armed forces, economics, governments.

Tax exempt foundations, club of Rome, trilateral commision, Bilderberg, Council on foreign relations, NATO, OECD, G7, European Union.

Drug companies, National Health Organizations, Enviromentalism, USA, Europe, Japan, Nation States, Banking, business, media, military, education, national state forces.

Eugenics, population control, WHO, UNESCO, UN enviroment and population control agencies, UNited nations, UN army, UN economic agencies, UN general assembly, security council.

!!!HUMAN RACE!!!

This is the order and hierarchy i think its all connected! where the top is the ruling party and the further down we go this list, the less in control they/we are!

This is my first post, more will come shortly.

[Balder]

The Round Table is in direct or indirect control of the following:

Direct control:
Dutchey Foundation, CFR, Trilateral Commission, IISS, Bilderberg, Rhodes Scholars*,Aspen institute for humanistic institute, Canadian institute for internal affairs, CBA, Union of concerned scientist, RIIA, MI6, PERMINDEX, NRO, and are connected to the committee of 300 which control east india and west india Co. china and afghanistans opium trade. UN, US NRO.

Indirect control:
Brookings institute, Hudson institute, wharton school of economics (uni of pensylvania), RAND Club of Rome, Institute for social research, Princeton institute for advanced studies, social psychiatry, Harvard psychiatric clinic, SRI, CIA, MK-ULTRA, and off course the STAR group (insurance, banking, real estate, entertainment and high tech (cybernetics, HAARP, communications, etc.))


"Committee of 300"



1. To establish a One World Government/New World Order with a unified church and monetary system under their direction. The One World Government began to set up its church in the 1920:s and 30:s, for they realized the need for a religious belief inherent in mankind must have an outlet and, therefore, set up a "church" body to channel that belief in the direction they desired.

2. To bring about the utter destruction of all national identity and national pride, which was a primary consideration if the concept of a One World Government was to work.

3. To engineer and bring about the destruction of religion, and more especially, the Christian Religion, with the one exception, their own creation, as mentioned above.

4. To establish the ability to control of each and every person through means of mind control and what Zbignew Brzezinski called techonotronics, which would create human-like robots and a system of terror which would make Felix Dzerzinhski's Red Terror look like children at play.

5. To bring about the end to all industrialization and the production of nuclear generated electric power in what they call "the post-industrial zero-growth society". Excepted are the computer- and service industries. US industries that remain will be exported to countries such as Mexico where abundant slave labor is available. As we saw in 1993, this has become a fact through the passage of the North American Free Trade Agreement, known as NAFTA. Unemployables in the US, in the wake of industrial destruction, will either become opium-heroin and/or cocaine addicts, or become statistics in the elimination of the "excess population" process we know of today as Global 2000.

6. To encourage, and eventually legalize the use of drugs and make pornography an "art-form", which will be widely accepted and, eventually, become quite commonplace.

7. To bring about depopulation of large cities according to the trial run carried out by the Pol Pot regime in Cambodia. It is interesting to note that Pol Pot's genocidal plans were drawn up in the US by one of the Club of Rome's research foundations, and overseen by Thomas Enders, a high-ranking State Department official. It is also interesting that the committee is currently seeking to reinstate the Pol Pot butchers in Cambodia.

8. To suppress all scientific development except for those deemed beneficial by the Illuminati. Especially targeted is nuclear energy for peaceful purposes. Particularly hated are the fusion experiments currently being scorned and ridiculed by the Illuminati and its jackals of the press. Development of the fusion torch would blow the Illuminati's conception of "limited natural resources" right out of the window. A fusion torch, properly used, could create unlimited and as yet untapped natural resources, even from the most ordinary substances. Fusion torch uses are legion, and would benefit mankind in a manner which, as yet, is not even remotely comprehended by the public.

9. To cause, by means of limited wars in the advanced countries, by means of starvation and diseases in the Third World countries, the death of three billion people by the year 2050, people they call "useless eaters". The Committee of 300 (Illuminati) commissioned Cyrus Vance to write a paper on this subject of how to bring about such genocide. The paper was produced under the title "Global 2000 Report" and was accepted and approved for action by former President James Earl Carter, and Edwin Muskie, then Secretary of States, for and on behalf of the US Government. Under the terms of the Global 2000 Report, the population of the US is to be reduced by 100 million by the year of 2050.

10. To weaken the moral fiber of the nation and to demoralize workers in the labor class by creating mass unemployment. As jobs dwindle due to the post industrial zero growth policies introduced by the Club of Rome, the report envisages demoralized and discouraged workers resorting to alcohol and drugs. The youth of the land will be encouraged by means of rock music and drugs to rebel against the status quo, thus undermining and eventually destroying the family unit. In this regard, the Committee commissioned Tavistock Institute to prepare a blueprint as to how this could be achieved. Tavistock directed Stanford Research to undertake the work under the direction of Professor Willis Harmon. This work later became known as the "Aquarian Conspiracy".

11. To keep people everywhere from deciding their own destinies by means of one created crisis after another and then "managing" such crises. This will confuse and demoralize the population to the extent where faced with too many choices, apathy on a massive scale will result. In the case of the US, an agency for Crisis Management is already in place. It is called the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), whose existence I first enclosed in 1980.

12. To introduce new cults and continue to boost those already functioning which include rock music gangsters such as the Rolling Stones (a gangster group much favored by European Black Nobility), and all of the Tavistock-created rock groups which began with the Beatles.

13. To continue to build up the cult of Christian Fundamentalism begun by the British East India Company's servant Darby, which will be misused to strengthen the Zionist State of Israel by identifying with the Jews through the myth of "God's chosen people", and by donating very substantial amounts of money to what they mistakenly believe is a religious cause in the furtherance of Christianity.

14. To press for the spread of religious cults such as the Moslem Brotherhood, Moslem Fundamentalism, the Sikhs, and to carry out mind control experiments of the Jim Jones and "Son of Sam" type. It is worth noting that the late Khomeini was a creation of British Military Intelligence Div. 6, MI6. This detailed work spelled out the step-by-step process which the US Government implemented to put Khomeini in power.

15. To export "religious liberation" ideas around the world so as to undermine all existing religions, but more especially the Christian religion. This began with the "Jesuit Liberation Theology", that brought an end to the Somoza Family rule in Nicaragua, and which today is destroying El Salvador, now 25 years into a "civil war". Costa Rica and Honduras are also embroiled in revolutionary activities, instigated by the Jesuits. One very active entity engaged in the so-called liberation theology, is the Communist-oriented Mary Knoll Mission. This accounts for the extensive media attention to the murder of four of Mary Knoll's so-called nuns in El Salvador a few years ago. The four nuns were Communist subversive agents and their activities were widely documented by the Government of El Salvador. The US press and the new media refused to give any space or coverage to the mass of documentation possessed by the Salvadorian Government, which proved what the Mary Knoll Mission nuns were doing in the country. Mary Knoll is in service in many countries, and placed a leading role in bringing Communism to Rhodesia, Moçambique, Angola and South Africa.

16. To cause a total collapse of the world's economies and engender total political chaos.

17. To take control of all foreign and domestic policies of the US.

18. To give the fullest support to supranational institutions such as the United Nations, the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the Bank of International Settlements, the World Court and, as far as possible, make local institutions less effective, by gradually phasing them out or bringing them under the mantle of the UN.

19. To penetrate and subvert all governments, and work from within them to destroy the sovereign integrity of the nations represented by them.

20. To organize a world-wide terrorist apparatus and to negotiate with terrorists whenever terrorist activities take place. It will be recalled that it was Bettino Craxi, who persuaded the Italian and US Governments to negotiate with the Red Brigades kidnapers of Prime Minister Moro and General Dozier. As an aside, Dozier was placed under strict orders not to talk what happened to him. Should he ever break that silence, he will no doubt be mad "a horrible example of", in the manner in which Henry Kissinger dealt with Aldo Moro, Ali Bhutto and General Zia ul Haq.

21. To take control of education in America with the intent and purpose of utterly and completely destroying it. By 1993, the full force effect of this policy is becoming apparent, and will be even more destructive as primary and secondary schools begin to teach "Outcome Based Education" (OBE).


Quote taken from: http://www.whale.to/b/coleman1.html

[Balder]

Who are the richest people in the world? Well, it has to be the bankers who own the printing press and are loaning the money, doesn't it? The IMF owns 2/3rds of the worlds gold. Every time there is a small increase in the value gold, that makes the IMF exponentially richer, and exponentially more powerful. The IMF, with the world bank connect to the central banks of all but 5 nations of the world. They loan the money to nations and taxes are collected as payment. The world bank currently recieves more money in interest repayments than they are loaning out. Where does this lead? The UN starts talking ownership and control of real assets.. land, estate and even law of those nations.


Quote taken from my good freind StoneSkull

The Bilderberg is named after the Hotel in Holland where it was first held.
People who attends the Bilderberg meeting does so only by invitation, what is discussed at the meeting cannot leave the room!
People who attend the meeting is folk's like the Rockerfeller, Rothchilds and Henry Kissinger...
It consist of 2/3 busines men, banker, brokers, media moguls etc. And 1/3 Politicians...

For more info than i can bring you here check out www.bilderberg.org where my freind Jim Tucker does an excelent work in exposing the bilderberg meetings!

[r.bartlett]

and there was me thinking it was tony gosling..

http://www.bilderberg.org/tonyhom.htm

cheers

richard

[Balder]

and there was me thinking it was tony gosling..

http://www.bilderberg.org/tonyhom.htm

cheers

richard

I am sorry, i didn't catch that one! are you having a problem with the site editor?

[Houston411]

Ok, you hate bush, but you still won't get over the whole election thingie.

We get it.

[r.bartlett]

I am sorry, i didn't catch that one! are you having a problem with the site editor?

or more info than i can bring you here check out www.bilderberg.org where my freind Jim Tucker does an excelent work in exposing the bilderberg meetings!
wow you've got me confused now..

you said bilderberg.org was run my your friend 'tucker' when i believe it's run by gosling

what/why didn't you catch?


just clear up the confusion about tucker I guess..

cheers

richard

[Balder]

or more info than i can bring you here check out www.bilderberg.org where my freind Jim Tucker does an excelent work in exposing the bilderberg meetings!
wow you've got me confused now..

you said bilderberg.org was run my your friend 'tucker' when i believe it's run by gosling

what/why didn't you catch?


just clear up the confusion about tucker I guess..

cheers

richard

hehe the sites editor is tony yes, but if you did some research you would know that the man behind the bilderberg.org is JIM TUCKER, sry for the inconvenience.

[Balder]

I dont know if i should continue posting on this subject their dont seem to be any interest in this! and i wouldn't want this to be a thread were i talk to my self, i have quite a knowledge base and would like to share it! i could keep on posting but then this thread would probably be moved to the boring section!

[Balder]

Ok, you hate bush, but you still won't get over the whole election thingie.

We get it.

this wasn't directed at me? correct?

[RavenWhitefang]

You read alot of David Icke, Balder? Because this sounds quite a bit like the 4 books I have finished reading by him.

[Houston411]

this wasn't directed at me? correct?
yes, dear Balder, my horrible comments are.

:kisses:

xoxo~

[Balder]

You read alot of David Icke, Balder? Because this sounds quite a bit like the 4 books I have finished reading by him.

Nah haven't read alot! but i am familiar with he's work, and i can follow him on most of what he says, but and their is a but, i think he whas manipulated by some "witnesses" to say something he cant prove! other than that 99% of he's work are plain facts and i cant disagree with that!



yes, dear Balder, my horrible comments are.

:kisses:

xoxo~


well sorry for being lame! but what about the bush's election and which one? i think the florida history is quite the hoax! but anyways i don't think it matters wich president is in office because well, they are just puppets of some financial moguls! and if i misunderstood it! and the post wasn't for me! then never mind!

[Houston411]

well sorry for being lame! but what about the bush's election and which one? i think the florida history is quite the hoax! but anyways i don't think it matters wich president is in office because well, they are just puppets of some financial moguls! and if i misunderstood it! and the post wasn't for me! then never mind!
Its ok, we can all get down and lame every-now-and-then.

It was for you, but thats ok.

Have fun!

[Balder]

Its ok, we can all get down and lame every-now-and-then.

It was for you, but thats ok.

Have fun!

Well perhaps my english is bad! but their where a question in that! what about the election? i didn't write anything about it! you brought it up!

And perhaps posing lame non constructive post is considered lame! who knows!
:P

BTW i ain't american! and i don't have anything real to say about the president except this "he is a lizard, i have seen him shape shift right in front of me, in a dream!"

(for the humour less! it whas sarcastic that last part! it wasn't a lizard but the lizard, and it grew right in front of my eyes.)

[Houston411]

Well perhaps my english is bad! but their where a question in that! what about the election? i didn't write anything about it! you brought it up!

And perhaps posing lame non constructive post is considered lame! who knows!
:P

BTW i ain't american! and i don't have anything real to say about the president except this "he is a lizard, i have seen him shape shift right in front of me, in a dream!"

(for the humour less! it whas sarcastic that last part! it wasn't a lizard but the lizard, and it grew right in front of my eyes.)
In your first post, you talk about bush.

"Bush-Bashing".

We get it, you don't like him.

[Balder]

*FNORD*

"They are in the walls, i can hear them."

"I sleep with my tinfoil hat on"

"President Bush is an reptilian alien"

*FNORD*

(Heavy sarcasm in statements above)


You obviously don't catch anything houston, you don't know the meaning of the word sarcasm or the word FNORD! your loss i have read some of your post and i will refrain from making any personal attacks, so this "discussion" ends here!!!

[Houston411]

You obviously don't catch anything houston, you don't know the meaning of the word sarcasm or the word FNORD! your loss i have read some of your post and i will refrain from making any personal attacks, so this "discussion" ends here!!!
What the hell is FNORD?

[Balder]

What the hell is FNORD?

http://www.fnord.org/images/mas_dict1.jpg

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/

this book will tell you all you need to know about the word FNORD!

(But for the short version, it is a word used by toxic magician and nerds etc, to express surrealism or really outrageous statements etc.)

[Houston411]

Thank you, middle-aged geek...

[RavenWhitefang]

Religious chaos at its finest...got to love Discordianism...so do you keep the holy hotdog? rofl

[Balder]

Thank you, middle-aged geek...

actually i'm not middle aged, but you are welcome!



Religious chaos at its finest...got to love Discordianism...so do you keep the holy hotdog? rofl


well i do have my holy hand grenade & my holy spellbook, but never liked the hotdog ritual, to messy.....

[Balder]

A lie told often enough becomes the truth!

Now this is my 3rd thread, I would like to make an index so you can easily find what you are looking for and discard the rest, but first I need to explain what this thread is all about.

1: This thread is an investigation into secret societies and their connection with the "people" behind the One World Order or New World Order.

2: This thread will try to connect the dots, so all of you can see the thick red line that draws between all these secret societies.

3: This thread shall only be filled with known facts.

Now before I can start I would like to say this, expect a lot of noise and disinformation, from people who do not want you to know what we know, expect to be ridiculed and laughed at, as a good mason friend of mine once told me. If you can't stand the heat turn on the air conditioner?

Am I the only one seeing the red dots in this world, am I the only one that sees the global quest for world domination, I find it hard to believe that I know that there are many out there that can see the big picture, perhaps it is time to be heard.

INDEX

A: Bilderberg
B: Rothschild?s
C: United Nations
D: The Round Table
E: The Black Nobility
F: Free Masons
G: The Wardens (*1)

Now this is not a new member guide or an information base for the uninitiated *LOL* always wanted to say that, but I don't have the time to explain all of the above groups in detail so you need some basic knowledge on this subject if you want to understand all of it.
This isn't a complete list of all the secret societies or groups that is behind the One World Order but some of the most important to my knowledge.


Chapter A: The Bilderberg Conspiracy

The Bilderberg conference first appeared in 1954 in a Dutch hotel named Bilderberg; you can only attend the Bilderberg conference if you are invited if you don?t have political or financial power that won?t happen. Who attends these meetings well it is mostly serving prime and cabinet ministers, central-bank governors, defence and other experts, there are absolutely no press allowed and photographs are scarce. Now what do they talk about well most of the time its stuff like East-West relations, arms control, deficits, debt, sanctions etc. Their thoughts may not be repeated outside the meetings and never are, why is that so they can relax more or is it to remove all doubt as to what this meeting is about, if they cant say what they have talked about then no one will care what they do, no media will show up *LOL* like they aren?t controlled by the same men in the first place.
So here we have a group of powerful men talking secrets again sounds familiar?
This Bilderberg group is in fact deciding the fate of many countries as they are the advisors of many powerful men or in fact powerful them selves. They can turn a country into civil war or raise a dictator without the normal man even noticing a ripple in the current.


Chapter B: Rothschild?s the Jew infestation

Now I have been labelled as anti-Semite or anti Jew by some, I cast that label away 99% of the Jews I have no problem with, though I don't understand why so many non Jews call them selves Jews, when they are in fact Asians or eastern Europeans.
But to get to the point, The Rothschild's are a family of very influential "people", they have so much power that even in your wettest dream you couldn't imagine it, they control the world bank, most of the worlds gold and oil, they control the LBMA. Ironical this family which is one of if not the richest family in the world, has managed to hide most of their history, today no one has heard of the Khazarian empire, why is that because if they knew they would never have fallen for the holocaust and claimed that the Rothschild's should have their own land.
See the Rothschild's aren't Jews they were worshippers of Judaism but never had anything to do with original Jews they are ASIANS they belong not to the Dead Sea but the Caucasus Sea.
This family has been in the centre of the stage and have directed it to their personal agenda which is funny enough nothing less than One World Order.


Chapter C: United Nations i.e. One World Order

The United Nations 18 acres of prime Manhattan land was donated by the Rockefeller family, you find this funny wait till you see the big picture here. They have also written that the world should not be many countries but One Big One, the UN Charter Chapters 8 through 11, are using such phrases as "regional arrangements, intergovernmental agreements, and metropolitan areas." members of One World Socialism have already split the world into 85 regions for ?policing? purposes.

The writing bellow is some of the doctrines of the UN:

1: Control over whether women are allowed to have babies.
2: Control over the economic and judicial policies of all nations.
3: The United Nations has its own Army and all soldiers must swear allegiance to this foreign government.

It is no secret that the UN troops are the first step toward a One World Army. Is this really what we want?


Chapter D: The Round Table which may not be round

The round table isn't a group in it self it contains some groups of its own like the Bilderberg, UN and the club of Rome. The Round Table was made in London in the 18?? AD. The first leader was Cecil Rhodes, but he was nothing more than a puppet the one in real control of the round table is the House of Rothschild. It was the round table that made the First World War happen, to gain more control and they staged the Second World War to get their precious UN and Israel. These are the channels which the global policies are coordinated out of view of public knowledge through unconnected countries and political parties. The upper levels of secret societies like the Freemasons etc. also connect into this Round Table.


Chapter E: The Black Nobility and their little rituals

Before I write anything on this subject I would to clear out some disinformation I might have received is the Black nobility the "Committee of 300"?
I think I have those mixed up because my knowledge of the black nobility is simply that it is the blue bloods of Europe??
Lots of nasty story on those but I would like this to be cleared out before I continue.


Chapter F: For Freemasons

*LOL* wont say anything here as we don?t want to attract any trolls or flamers *LOL*


Chapter G: Are the watchers watching you

Not much is known about these prison wardens as I like to call them in fact they are not even on this earth at least not in physical form, they are the energies that have the job of keeping us in place so we wont know the truth or be ridiculed by every one else so we wont dare speaking our minds.
Thier home is the 4th density, there is a higher frequency there so it cant be compared to our slow moving 3rd density.
These watchers are the police of the illuminati they hold us in place so we can be exploited again and again.
I would like some feedback on the subject of these so called watchers!


made by me, on abovetopsecret.com

[Balder]

Knowledge is power.


If you store the world's knowledge..

all the knowledge from ancient times until now..

and store it and keep it secret..

that's the biggest wealth that you can have in the world.


Then you can sell chunks of that knowledge.

You could sell one chunk as one religion, another chunk as another religion..

and those chunks are so amazing to the people that you present it to..

who have had the knowledge hidden from them in the first place..

that it is revalationary..

and inspires belief and faith in that religion.


Now each chunk believes their chunk to be the holy truth..

but none of them see the whole truth..

and don't have access to all the knowledge that has been kept throughout the centuries..

by, collectively, what I call the Illuminati, and many others do..

the collecting of these old, old secret societies..

who have kept the libraries of conquered civilisations..

hoarded, held, sold and controlled.


Knowledge is power.


Poem writen by StoneSkull

[Balder]

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[Balder]

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The Forty-Seventh Proposition of Euclid
The Pythagorean theorem states that for any right triangle the sum of the squares of its two legs equals the square of its hypotenuse (a2 + b2 = c2). Or we could frame it as the sum of the square of the horizontal and the square of the perpendicular equals the square of the hypotenuse. We know this formulation was known before Pythagoras - there is evidence in ancient Egyptian work, ancient China (the Chou Pei manuscript), and the megalith builders. Regardless, it is attributed to Pythagoras and two hundred years later Euclid compiled his "Elements of Mathematics" where this particular proposition is found in Book One.
(47th) In every right angle triangle the square on the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the squares on the other two sides.
(48th) If the square described on one of the sides of a triangle is equal to the square described on the other sides, then the angle contained by these two sides is a right angle.
This theorem has been called the root of all geometry and the cornerstone of mathematics. The practical applications alone are worthy of the high esteem that Masonry affords it. And this is the interpretation of the lecture that is most considered when masons speak of it But the meaning of this hieroglyphical emblem does not stop there.
The emblem we are usually presented is the 3,4,5 right triangle in this fashion: The vertical line is of 3 units, the horizontal is of 4 units, and the hypotenuse is of 5 units. Not only is our attention called to this geometrical figure in the Master Mason degree, it is also prominent in the Scottish Rite in the 20th Degree - Master of the Symbolic Lodge and in the 25th Degree - Knight of the Brazen Serpent. Rex Hutchens, commenting upon the 20th Degree in his book on the Scottish Rite explains that:
Nine is a perfect number, being the triple of three. There are nine candles in three groups of three each on the East, West, and South of the Altar. They form a graphic representation of the 47th Problem It makes no difference in the equation if the other two angles are 45 degrees each or 30 degrees and 60 degrees or 5 degrees and 85 degrees. Because of the mystic meaning associated with numbers by the ancients, they considered the most beautiful triangle of all, the right angled triangle with sides of 3,4 and 5 units of measure. (Rex Hutchens, The Bridge to light, p.171)
In the 25th Degree commentary Hutchens describes the setting of this degree:
The ceremony takes place in four apartments. They are all remarkable in their simplicity. The first is called the House of the Earth. ...The second apartment is called the House of the Planets. The third apartment is ... styled the House of the Sun and Moon.... The principal chamber is called the House of the Light. Nine lights (candles) are arranged on the altar in groups of three, forming a representation of the Pythagorean Theorem,... (The Bridge to Light, p.215)
The evidence that the particular triangle alluded to in the Monitor is the 3,4,5 right triangle can be derived from the odd comments about Pythagoras' exclamation "Eureka" in the Grecian language. Here is where we can begin to apply the investigative tools of what is called gematria. As you know the ancient letters were also numbers. The correlation of numbers with letters gave ample opportunity to nest hidden meaning within words, phrases, and names. For example, if we take the word "Eureka" in Greek and consider the letters as numbers instead of letters, add them up to get a total value we get 534 - the units of this special triangle.
Maybe we can even find hints of this geometry in earlier degrees. A very interesting technique of symbolism can be seen when two different types of symbolism are fused together or alluded to by one another such as a legend that contains mathematical symbolism. For example, many of the blacksmiths of the gods were crippled or lame. In many cases the Sacred King was lame. The destiny of the Sacred King was to lose his life as a sacrifice; an act which will regenerate the world. Usually the lameness and sacrifice was deliberately caused. Vergil wrote a poem wherein the Queen who is resolved to die offering herself as a victim in the fire, he writes: "beside the altars, with one foot unshod, she calls as one about to die upon the gods and upon the doom-witnessing stars." There is an association between lameness and having one foot unshod. And in the idea of sacrifice and redemption. There is a Byzantine painting known as "Our Lady of Perpetual Help". This painting is of the Madonna holding her divine child. On each side of them there is an angel who holds some of the images associated with the Crucililion. The divine child is looking at one angel and one of his shoes is falling off. We can even find this idea in the slanting foot-rest of the Russian Cross in the Eastern Churches.
We can develop this further. In geometry, there are three types of triangles: equilateral, isosceles and scalene. The equilateral triangle has 3 equal sides; the isosceles has 2 equal sides, and the scalene triangle has no equal sides. Scalene means "uneven"; it also means "limping". Of all the infinite scalene triangles, the one thought of by the ancients as special - the king of them all, was the 3,4,5 unit triangle. This one had the special properties and it grew to have mystical properties as well. In so considering the symbolism of the Egyptian structure one author states:
And so beneath the ideal pyramid, with its four great equilaterals pointing heavenward as they converge above the center of the basal square... there would be sacrificed, hidden in the foundations so to speak, a limping but necessary scalene, supplying the all-important right angle for the base and for the central elevation. (Denning & Philips, The Magical Philosophy, Vol. 2 p.58)
As we consider geometry as symbolism as well as Truth, we have to think of it as the ancients did. Pythagoras said "All is Number" and in The Republic, Plato wrote: "The knowledge at which geometry alms is the knowledge of the Eternal." The Eternal was to Plato the archetypal Forms, or the timeless truths of existence. In other words, the foundation of the universe. That aspect of the universe which always was and ever will be.


All above taken from: http://www.startiming.net/cave/wdc-1.html and http://www.sricf-ca.org/paper1.htm

http://www.riseofthebeast.com/images/Americ2.jpg

http://www.riseofthebeast.com/images/Occult4.gif

[Balder]

http://www.riseofthebeast.com/images/Occult9.gif

http://www.bob-wonderland.supanet.com/Washington14.jpg

http://www.bob-wonderland.supanet.com/Washington15.jpg

more to come!

[stewey]

Balder, thats kind of a stretch, don't ya think? Those triangles are hardly a ratio of a 3/4/5 one anyways.


The title of this thread is accurate, however. Newsweek anyone?

[Balder]

Balder, thats kind of a stretch, don't ya think? Those triangles are hardly a ratio of a 3/4/5 one anyways.


The title of this thread is accurate, however. Newsweek anyone?

okie if you cant find a pattern thats fine, however i do see the pattern...

http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/secretsocieties/easternstar.jpg

http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/religion/pentagram2.jpg

http://forums.mozillazine.org/images/avatars/1017005270415bb6a6812f7.jpg

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/1o5.htm

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/2o5.htm

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/3o5.htm

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/4o5.htm

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/5o5.htm

http://ariadne.uio.no/runenews/nor_2002/NoR17.pdf

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/All_Seeing_Eye.htm

[Balder]

http://www.cwis.org/graphics/unlogo.gif

http://www.nacgb.org/images/friary.gif

http://www.nacgb.org/images/33rd.gif

[RavenWhitefang]

http://img280.echo.cx/img280/861/occult43kc.gif

http://www.riseofthebeast.com/images/Occult9.gif

This is supposedly a representation of the Owl deity Moloch *Bohemian Grove* (http://www.infowars.com/bg1.html). Dig a little deeper Balder ~.^ :)

Scope around for some of prezhorus threads and you'll see more symbolism, theres quite a bit.

[stewey]

Well, if you look at the image with the green line, the triangle is a pretty "thought up" triangle -- the top line of the triangle isn't even at the furthest north point. If you look at maps of any city, you can easily pull out patterns. I can do it with my own hometown, too.

Basically theyre "bible codes" only with city maps.

[nrj]

Well, if you look at the image with the green line, the triangle is a pretty "thought up" triangle -- the top line of the triangle isn't even at the furthest north point. If you look at maps of any city, you can easily pull out patterns. I can do it with my own hometown, too.

Basically theyre "bible codes" only with city maps.

You know, stewey, sometimes i dont agree with you, but now i finally do!

[Balder]

http://www.ocaixote.com.br/caixote14/moloch.jpg'



In the Masoretic text the name is "Molech"; in the Septuagint "Moloch." The earliest mention of Molech is in Lev. xviii. 21, where the Israelite is forbidden to sacrifice any of his children to Molech. Similarly, in Lev. xx. 2-5, it is enacted that a man who sacrifices his seed to Molech shall surely be put to death. Then, curiously, it is provided that he shall be cut off from the congregation. In I Kings xi. 7 it is said that Solomon built a high place for Molech in the mountain "that is before Jerusalem." The same passage calls Molech an Ammonite deity. The Septuagint as quoted in the New Testament (Acts vii. 43) finds a reference to Moloch in Amos v. 26; but this is a doubtful passage. In II Kings xxiii. 10 it is stated that one of the practises to which Josiah put a stop by his reform was that of sacrificing children to Molech, and that the place where this form of worship had been practised was at Topheth, "in the valley of the children of Hinnom." This statement is confirmed by Jer. xxxii. 35. From II Kings xxi. 6 it may be inferred that this worship was introduced during the reign of Manasseh. The impression left by an uncritical reading of these passages is that Molech-worship, with its rite of child-sacrifice, was introduced from Ammon during the seventh

[Balder]

You know, stewey, sometimes i dont agree with you, but now i finally do!

ok so the inverted star / eastern star is a randomly drawn symbol, near random buildings?

and all of the non important building like the senate, white house and pentagon doesn't connect in fine mathematical lines?

ok you have convinced me! i quit!

[Balder]

its the same symbols being used, again and again!

its actually quite easy, to see who belongs where!
the only thing im really confused about is the masons! perhaps they are just using ancient symbols who happens to belong to the NWO!
(but i believe to have found evidence of an higher echelon within the mason structure! a 34/35/36th degree!)

but if you study ancient sumerian, egyptian and norse history and mythology, you will see that the roman / greek mythology is really just a predecessor of ancient indo european history!
And that all tales originate from the same place! (indo europe!)

[Mezurashi]

Balder, dude, this is interesting as a thought exercise but this sort of geometric axis of evil is something people have been thinking up for years.

Remember "Backward Masking?" Secret messages hidden in songs that, when played backward, you could understand...it turned out to be a bunch of crap (the power of suggestion, anyone?).

And also remember that the FreeMasons grew out of the Church's control of the builders of the cathedrals back in the 12th century. They might be an ancient society, but they were originally formed to create a power bloc against the all poweful Church. Thus when the Church wanted another stone tower to God built, they couldn't just grab masons and force them to work ... they had to negotiate with another organization.

If the FreeMasons are evil today, what would that make the very Church you are basing the origin source of the 'Moral Evil' from, and why do you trust them over the more recent (and more 'common man oriented) Freemasons? Think about how Big Business fights Trade Unions (so Big Business can get away with ripping off the workers) using negative propoganda. Now think about how the Church might have fought the Masons...

[stewey]

In any big city, there is a lot of roads. Lots of roads = lots of patterns. The person who highlighted it basically just drew a bunch of lines and finally found a pattern that could be considered evil. I mean look at the lines. They are basically pulled out of nowhere, not even at the most northern point or anything, just kind of in the middle of nowhere. Get me an overhead city map, I will draw you some patterns too.

[Balder]

In any big city, there is a lot of roads. Lots of roads = lots of patterns. The person who highlighted it basically just drew a bunch of lines and finally found a pattern that could be considered evil. I mean look at the lines. They are basically pulled out of nowhere, not even at the most northern point or anything, just kind of in the middle of nowhere. Get me an overhead city map, I will draw you some patterns too.


this is not random dravings! this is not random buildings! this is not random symbols!

the invertet star/eastern star! (baphomet/lucifer/satan etc.)
The owl man (bohemian grove (also seen on 1 dollar bill etc.))
pentagon
senate
whitehouse
OTO

oh yes this is so random!



*snip*
And also remember that the FreeMasons grew out of the Church's control of the builders of the cathedrals back in the 12th century. They might be an ancient society, but they were originally formed to create a power bloc against the all poweful Church. Thus when the Church wanted another stone tower to God built, they couldn't just grab masons and force them to work ... they had to negotiate with another organization.

If the FreeMasons are evil today, what would that make the very Church you are basing the origin source of the 'Moral Evil' from, and why do you trust them over the more recent (and more 'common man oriented) Freemasons? Think about how Big Business fights Trade Unions (so Big Business can get away with ripping off the workers) using negative propoganda. Now think about how the Church might have fought the Masons...


i believe that the free mason higher echelon go further back than that, same knowledge, same families in power!
i think that you can track the symbolism atleast 3-5 thousand years back!

follow the money
follow the knowledge

[stewey]

You can pull anything out of any city map. Find me an unmarked map of any metropolitan city and I will draw you all sorts of crazy things.

[Balder]

You can pull anything out of any city map. Find me an unmarked map of any metropolitan city and I will draw you all sorts of crazy things.

http://www.mtcs.dk/pic/city-8.jpg

ok this is a map of copenhagen very old city about 1000 years old! draw some meaningfull symbols please!

also include important building in them! like the senate, og the queens castle etc.

[stewey]

Notice how PI is spelled in it?

First 8 digits of pi = 3.1415926

3 + 1 + 4 + 1 + 5 + 9 + 2 + 6 = 31
31 ^ 2 = 961
961 upside down is 691

the next 6 digits of pi are 535897

691 - 5 - 3 - 5 - 8 - 9 - 7 = 654
the next 2 digits of pi are 93
654 + 9 + 3 = 666

Most people only use the first 3 digits of pi (3.14), so if we take the number of digits we used (16) and subtract the "common digits", we get 13, an evil number

pi source: http://www.math.com/tables/constants/pi.htm

They must have been Satan worshippers!

[prezhorusin04]

They must have been Satan worshippers!

Yeah, why is that such a hard possibility for you to contend with..?

Pi is the diameter for the circumference of a perfect 360 degree circle. It was first discovered in modern times by researchers of the Great Pyramids of Egypt.

Who's to say that the 'secret' of PI isn't really about the Serpent Ouruborus that's eating it's own tail into infinity, the Alpha and the Omega, and the mystery of the pyramids..?

Anyway, just dropping a cent into this conversation.... :bubble:

[Balder]

Notice how PI is spelled in it?

First 8 digits of pi = 3.1415926

3 + 1 + 4 + 1 + 5 + 9 + 2 + 6 = 31
31 ^ 2 = 961
961 upside down is 691

the next 6 digits of pi are 535897

691 - 5 - 3 - 5 - 8 - 9 - 7 = 654
the next 2 digits of pi are 93
654 + 9 + 3 = 666

Most people only use the first 3 digits of pi (3.14), so if we take the number of digits we used (16) and subtract the "common digits", we get 13, an evil number


the number 13 is symbolic because of the excommunication of the knights templars! (thats why friday the 13th is considered cursed or jinxed!)
Its not an evil number! also i cant find the logic in your post?
first 8 digits next 6 digits why is that?
if you play with numbers enough you will get what you want!
as a side note i believe that Pi whas an universal secret! until it came out!

[Balder]

http://www.theblessingsofliberty.com/medal_of_honor/army_moh.jpg

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/owl_on_the_dollar.jpg

http://www.goarch.org/en/special/usvisit2002/photos/patriarchateGallery/Images/liturgical0.jpg



The symbolism is clear, more will come soon including some text i have put together where i try to explain! the obvious connection!

[Balder]

http://www.lyndalou.btinternet.co.uk/solomon.jpg

http://www.dracoart.net/mars/cydred.jpg

picture from mars

http://terraserver.microsoft.com/tile.ashx?t=1&s=10&x=2902&y=20529&z=11

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.628036,+-116.848060&ll=37.096024,-116.094675&spn=0.008100,0.010664&t=k&hl=en

satellite photos of area 51 / or the military base in the nevada desert! what ever you like to call it!
Showing a pyramid!

http://www.aegypten-online.de/images/giza/pyramid.jpg

this pic you all know!

see anything similar?

[nrj]

ok so the inverted star / eastern star is a randomly drawn symbol, near random buildings?

and all of the non important building like the senate, white house and pentagon doesn't connect in fine mathematical lines?

ok you have convinced me! i quit!

I meant that bible codes are fake! I believe in the Illuminati to.

[nrj]

http://www.lyndalou.btinternet.co.uk/solomon.jpg

http://www.dracoart.net/mars/cydred.jpg

picture from mars

http://terraserver.microsoft.com/tile.ashx?t=1&s=10&x=2902&y=20529&z=11

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.628036,+-116.848060&ll=37.096024,-116.094675&spn=0.008100,0.010664&t=k&hl=en

satellite photos of area 51 / or the military base in the nevada desert! what ever you like to call it!
Showing a pyramid!

http://www.aegypten-online.de/images/giza/pyramid.jpg

this pic you all know!

see anything similar?

Ok, i can see a pattern in your last post, but what do the previous post show?

[stewey]

Using your logic, anything with a triangle in it can be shown to be evil.

[Balder]

a fast explanation!

2 headed phoenix is known as an illuminati symbol! ((seen on many crest and orders etc.) which later became the EAGLE we all see every day)

Owl* (have already explained that)

pyramids (found on mars/ egypt/ south america/ asia/ area 51)

the inverted pentagram (morning lord aka lucifer, also represents man inverted(head/2 arms/2 legs) and seen in the medal of honor, some us police badges and the map of washington connecting SENATE,WHITE HOUSE,OTO HQ AND PENTAGON which are in itself a inverted star!!!)

Also the math in itself is a code! corner stones etc! pythagoras and so on!
All this combine into ONE symbolism used by the old mystery schools etc...

This is the symbolism i use to track down members and organizations of the NWO!

also i ain't here to enlighten anyone or save anyone, i belive the NWO is inevitable, and i am actually looking forward to it! (i believe the long count of the mayan culture is connected to this END DATE of the OWO (2012 21 12))

[Balder]

Using your logic, anything with a triangle in it can be shown to be evil.

You are trying to push my buttons!

Try to be constructive or at least stop being an adolescent spoiled little american twit/brat!

WTF do you know about MY logic!

A triangle isn't evil! but it does represent a 2-d pyramid! and if you put an eye in it! we have the eye of horus or the all seeing eye!!!

Also STEWEY, try harder next time you are wasting my time!

[Balder]

I meant that bible codes are fake! I believe in the Illuminati to.

ok then we are in agreement!

also to SPEWEY how about drawing me that map, any time soon would be ok!

[nrj]

also i ain't here to enlighten anyone or save anyone, i belive the NWO is inevitable, and i am actually looking forward to it! (i believe the long count of the mayan culture is connected to this END DATE of the OWO (2012 21 12))

You are looking forward to 5.5 billion people dying, and that we all shall be ruled by one divine king?

[Balder]

You are looking forward to 5.5 billion people dying, and that we all shall be ruled by one divine king?

well you could interpret it that way!
but what i meant was! i am a warrior and i look forward to dying on the plain of Ida defending mankind! and i will slay that so called divine being!
It is the battle i am looking forward to not the innocent casualties! m8 8)

[nrj]

well you could interpret it that way!
but what i meant was! i am a warrior and i look forward to dying on the plain of Ida defending mankind! and i will slay that so called divine being!
It is the battle i am looking forward to not the innocent casualties! m8 8)

So, you are a resistant member? I think I have read about them on the web. They are tracking down members of the Illuminati, so that they can warn the world about the NWO.

[Balder]

*UPS* *MIF* *MBS*

[Balder]

So, you are a resistant member? I think I have read about them on the web. They are tracking down members of the Illuminati, so that they can warn the world about the NWO.

i will not be assimilated
i will not be normalized
i will not be indoctrinated

i will be honest
i will be valiant
i will be resilient


i will share my knowledge
i will share my love
i will share my life

[nrj]

I think that means yes, but im not sure. If it means yes, you have my thnx! This planet needs more people knowing about the New World Order!

[Balder]

I think that means yes, but im not sure. If it means yes, you have my thnx! This planet needs more people knowing about the New World Order!

you are welcome!

i have to say this though!
i am not a member of any kind of society, club or fraternity!
i am only loyal to my self and my own feelings!

i listen to feelings before i listen to logic!

the 4th chakra is more in-tuned with what is right and what is wrong!
logic and rationality blur this! trust your own judgement!

!WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS!

[nrj]

That sounds terrific! But, I think I should ask you this, as you know the most about the Illuminati on this forum:
Why are the Illuminati messaging us through symbols? Shouldnt they be sitting underground, and try not to show any signs that they exist? Is it because they like to style, and say: "hey! here we are, and you cant stop us!"
Plz, this question is haunting me!

[Balder]

That sounds terrific! But, I think I should ask you this, as you know the most about the Illuminati on this forum:
Why are the Illuminati messaging us through symbols? Shouldnt they be sitting underground, and try not to show any signs that they exist? Is it because they like to style, and say: "hey! here we are, and you cant stop us!"
Plz, this question is haunting me!


They are not massaging YOU, they are "pissing" on their turf!
They have used this symbolism approx. 5-6 thousand years!
They are hiding and 99,9% of the population don't believe that they exist!
I would call that mission accomplished!

The symbols are used as a tool, to;

1: control the masses by implanting these symbols, deep in their sub-conscious mind!*

2:to identify orders within the orders ie. the hierarchy of the NWO

3:they are them selves obsessed with symbolism! they worship these symbols and get us to do the same, thous channeling wast amounts of energy to these symbols, and their hidden "master(s)"


*we learn to thrust the symbols, more than we thrust our selves!

[nrj]

They are not massaging YOU, they are "pissing" on their turf!
They have used this symbolism approx. 5-6 thousand years!
They are hiding and 99,9% of the population don't believe that they exist!
I would call that mission accomplished!

The symbols are used as a tool, to;

1: control the masses by implanting these symbols, deep in their sub-conscious mind!*

2:to identify orders within the orders ie. the hierarchy of the NWO

3:they are them selves obsessed with symbolism! they worship these symbols and get us to do the same, thous channeling wast amounts of energy to these symbols, and their hidden "master(s)"


*we learn to thrust the symbols, more than we thrust our selves!

So, its psychological warfare?

[Balder]

So, its psychological warfare?

you could call it that!

i call it spiritual warfare, and we are on the loosing side!

[nrj]

Well, many on this forum, believe we are just a couple of maniacs. So, if convincing them is hard, convincing the world will be harder. Is there any other way of winning this war? The European continent has 700 million inhabitants, so I fear they will slaughter the countries wich have no value, like Sweden. I hope that you say yes, so that I dont have to fear for my people any more.

[Balder]

if you are looking for a savior, i am not the one!

sweden is one of the first countries to go like the rest of the western world!
we have to much knowledge in the western world, they will spare some of us for genetic purposes only! the rest will be killed!

you underestimate the power of your own people, never do that!
the swedes have a proud history! and is still one of the leading INDUSTRIAL and TECHNOLOGICAL nations of the west!

I belive that the battle on earth will be short and ferocious!
but it is in the after match that we will win!

[nrj]

if you are looking for a savior, i am not the one!

sweden is one of the first countries to go like the rest of the western world!
we have to much knowledge in the western world, they will spare some of us for genetic purposes only! the rest will be killed!

you underestimate the power of your own people, never do that!
the swedes have a proud history! and is still one of the leading INDUSTRIAL and TECHNOLOGICAL nations of the west!

I belive that the battle on earth will be short and ferocious!
but it is in the after match that we will win!

Tackar tackar! Some are calling Sweden a land full of sissies, and I to believed that before. How will we win the after math? The war will be short, I know because of the nukes and such, but we will be controlled by a "divine king". Reagaining the power seems hopeless.

[Balder]

Tackar tackar! Some are calling Sweden a land full of sissies, and I to believed that before. How will we win the after math? The war will be short, I know because of the nukes and such, but we will be controlled by a "divine king". Reagaining the power seems hopeless.

they would never mass nuke (MAD) the earth, they need it, but not as much as they need us!

the after match will be a separation process! i will leave the 3rd density, unite and come back for the ones still trapped here!

about the anti christ ie. divine being! i don't really have much info on him, other than we will welcome him with open arms! and ask for him to protect us!

new studies show that the gulf stream is cooling down, this could be a sign of a coming ICE AGE! i believe this to be the FIMBUL winter...

3 years of chaos before armageddon!

[stewey]

I drew the map, I attached it. It hasn't been approved yet.

[Balder]

you have me convinced stewey! nice drawing!
you win!










one little minor thing!








you didn't use existing roads, but drew right through a PARK! but never mind that! i can see you are convinced that you are correct!
also you didn't have any important buildings included, but thats also ok! because you probably don't know them!


i will now leave this thread for ever, and vote right wing in the coming election!

[Balder]

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/33rd_degree_2_seattle.gif

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/pentagram_lucifer_satan.gif

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/magicn01.jpg

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[Balder]

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/Seal_Solomon_Conjure_Demons.jpg

http://archives.thedaily.washington.edu/2001/011801/N3.star.of.david.flag.jpg

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/Pyramid_dollar_bill.jpg

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[Balder]

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/Snake_Egg.jpg

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/Columns_Snakes.jpg

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/apron.jpg

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[Balder]

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/Washington_Apron20_Seattle.jpg

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/Masonic_Emblem_Hexagram_Sun.gif

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/symbology/Cross_Crown_Seattle.gif

some extra stuff

[Balder]

http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/menu.html

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com

http://www.rense.com

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com

[stewey]

They drew through parks and picked random points also. I based my lines on roads, but some roads were not straight so I did my best.

[Balder]

stick to the point THE INVERTED STAR IS PURELY MADE FROM EXISTING ROADS, GROW UP!

[Balder]

http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/articles/memphispyra.jpg



The Pyramid in Memphis is a 360 foot tall 20,000 seat sports/entertainment arena. The University of Memphis' basketball home court nicknamed the "Tomb of Domb"



http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/secretsocieties/masonseal.gif

Masonic Royal Arch Lodge Seal

http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/secretsocieties/mysteryschool1.jpg

Egyptian Mystery School

[Balder]

http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/secretsocieties/bohemianowlnap.jpg

http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/secretsocieties/bohemianowl.jpg

http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/ancient/owlcoint.jpg

more symbolism of the owl!

[Protostar]

Under there and the Oblisk is chambers. Look up information regarding the
Secret Order of Rocicretions and the Illuminati. Open that eye. :amaz:

[Balder]

http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/secretsocieties/garden.jpg

Rosicrucian Symbol

http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/secretsocieties/rosicrucianogo.gif

Rosicrucian Logo

http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/jclicker/images/US-Eagle.jpg

Great Seal

also if you consider what i have said about the number 13 in this thread and compare the masonic document i have with the great seal / medal of honor.

You will see that 13 and 33 has a hidden meaning!
also check out this pyramid again!

*******36*******
******3435******

*****313233*****
****27282930****
***2223242526***
**161718192021**
*09101112131415*
0102030405060708

[Balder]

http://www.sanjose.com/attractions/rosicrucian/gifs/rosicruician.jpg



IN SAN JOSE, a town that's never known itself, rarely does one find anything lasting 75 years. All secrecy aside, the Rosicrucians have accomplished exactly that. Sure, they don't place those strange "Master Your Life" ads in Popular Science anymore, but they still exist behind the shadows in San Jose, where Imperator Harvey Spencer Lewis established Rosicrucian Park in 1927. Shortly thereafter, the original Rosicrucian Egyptian Oriental Museum took shape.

To commemorate their 75th anniversary in San Jose, the Rosicrucians are sponsoring a new exhibit of the Rosicrucian Egyptian Museum. The exhibit, a chronological presentation of archival photographs, paintings and artifacts, tells the sometimes lurid yarn of the Rosicrucian Order's contributions to San Jose life and culture.

Just the photographs alone are enough to peak the interest of any budding San Jose historian. A handful of vintage scientific machines, originally from the classrooms of the Rose Croix University International, are also on display, reminding one of a 1950s sci-fi flick. There's an autoharp--and even a miniature Tesla Coil. Other oddities include a 1980 Dennis the Menace comic book that spoofs the Rosicrucians.

"We are definitely one of the forgotten entities in San Jose," says Stephen Armstrong, a member of the Rosicrucian Order. "Most people say, 'Oh yeah, I went there when I was a kid,' but other than that they don't know anything about it."

As is so. Every San Josean knows of the Rosicrucian Egyptian Museum, but few are versed in the organization's veiled history. Established by the Rosicrucian Order, A.M.O.R.C. (AMORC)--those mystical truth-seekers whose voluminous monographs espouse ancient wisdom to thousands of dues-paying initiates around the globe--the park began as one single lot. It now encompasses a five-acre city block with its own zip code.

Rosicrucian Park in 2002 is a great place to eavesdrop on tourists and nuclear families in a quasi-Vegas setting. Statues of pharaohs and sphinxes loom over the property, and you expect to see their eyes secretly moving, as if someone inside were looking out. Well-trimmed lawns, a huge obelisk, a waterfall, twisting walkways, gardens and the monolithic administration building are all maintained with meticulous care. And the long-defunct planetarium boasts its own definitive faded-hotel attractiveness.

The museum itself basks in Disneyland-style wonderment. Teenage docents lead tours through faux tomb settings and spin tales about ancient Egyptian afterlife while visitors gawk at mummies, papyrus displays and the like. Indeed, the collection of artifacts is monstrous, and more than 30,000 children visit the place every year. Where else are you going to see a mummified baboon, for crying out loud?

But just who and what are the Rosicrucians themselves?

Since they've been universally assigned the apocalyptic nom de plume "secret society," it may be difficult to convince readers that a more adequate description might be their own, which is "a philosophical, initiatic and traditional organization perpetuating knowledge that initiates have transmitted through the centuries." Their teachings, originating in the mystery schools of ancient Egypt, offer a nonmainstream route to esoteric Western spirituality and include lessons on the structure of matter, human consciousness, psychic centers, intuition, vibroturgy, radiesthesia and other esoteric subjects.

Neither a religion nor a sect, AMORC's members include people from all creeds and all walks of life. In fact, some Rosicrucian members do not subscribe to any specific religious beliefs at all. As long as you can cough up $215 a year, you're in.

"That's what separates us from other similar groups," says David Cherveny, F.R.C. "We have no dogma. We don't tell you how to think. In anthropological terms, we're a voluntary association group."

This appears to be true, as from the moment of their affiliation, Rosicrucians are asked to become "walking question marks" and to regard their own conscience as their only master. AMORC's teachings are never imposed on the members.

"If I had to sum up Rosicrucianism in one phrase," says Armstrong with his fist over his heart, "I'd say that it's to know thyself. The method is to learn things yourself."

AMORC stands for the Ancient and Mystical Order Rosae Crucis, and its symbol is the rose cross, that is, a standard cross with a rose at its center. There is no religious connotation associated with this cross. The cross, to Rosicrucians, symbolizes man's body, and the rose represents the unfolding of the soul. Together, the two symbolize the dual nature of human beings on their path of spiritual evolution.

Although AMORC claims heritage going all the way back to the mystery schools of ancient Egypt, the Rosicrucians first infiltrated the public sphere via three bizarre esoteric treatises, published in Germany in the early 17th century. Fama Fraternitatis (Rumor of the Brotherhood) and Confessio Fraternitatis (Confessions of the Brotherhood) proclaimed the existence of one "Fraternity of the Rosy Cross," who possessed powers beyond conventional understanding and who were secretly shaping the course of human history. A third document, The Chymical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreuz, surfaced a few years later.

Jump to 1909. American businessman Harvey Spencer Lewis, director of the Institute of Psychic Research in New York, is initiated into the Rose-Croix in Toulouse, France. He then receives the mandate to lay the foundation for the order's resurgence in North America and decides to call it AMORC. Following brief stints in New York, Florida and San Francisco, Lewis chooses San Jose to be the world headquarters in 1927.

"He came here because the weather was great, and the land was cheap," says Armstrong.

Talk about a hidden history of San Jose. Rosicrucians seek to know themselves by concentrating on the master within, as opposed to looking outside for answers. San Jose, a town known for its identity complexes, is just the opposite. The city is constantly looking outside for solutions to its problems, instead of staying in touch with its own inner wisdom, strength and balance. Maybe there's a lesson here somewhere, I don't know. In any event, the Rosicrucians will continue to pierce the mysteries of nature and the universe, whether or not anyone else in San Jose knows who they are.

[Protostar]

wow, the info I got on them was that you can't get in unless you have been pledged. Their pamphlet specified their history and really an application form. You must be a College Grad plus. I wonder if there are different sects. anyhoo, great work Balder! thanks for the info.

[stewey]

I just noticed that Balder spelled terrorist wrong when he referred to me as one in a subject a few posts up.

[nrj]

You know balder, I think i have found some evidence of Sweden being a tool in the Illuminati. Blue is a masonic color, right? And gold, and the golden lion is a well known symbol for the sun, right? Have a look at the coat of arms, and the flag of the Kingdom of Sweden:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden

[Balder]

Protostar: np m8. though i still believe its a cover/front... all can become a mason/Rosicrucian/knight of malta! but its run by a higher echelon behind the scene! and these so called elite's or echelon's are all connected by the committee of 300/Illuminati/Black Nobility... perhaps without them selves even knowing about it!

If you hold ultimate knowledge, and decides to share a little with different sects, you can control them! because the never see the big picture, that they are puppets of old families/societies etc...

Spewey wrote!


I just noticed that Balder spelled terrorist wrong when he referred to me as one in a subject a few posts up.


Your point being? now you are attacking my grama and spelling errors! you must feel so proud about your self!!! noob 8p.

Nrj: you are jumping to conclusions m8, take it easy! be objective and remember to cross reference every thing!
Yes the flag in it self is an illuminati symbol, but every old flag is just that! the english flag is the symbol of the KNIGHTS TEMPLARS etc.
The lion is a symbol of royalty, and BLOODLINE! strong genes etc..
To MY knowledge sweden is nothing special, in the plot of the NWO.. But of course i could be wrong! i just haven't seen any evidence suggesting that they have some purpose, other than serving as a mass control, which the nordic lands in particular have a great reputation for!
SOCIALISM IS AS BAD AS ANY OTHER ISM. THEY WHERE ALL INVENTED FOR THE SAME PURPOSE!

CONTROL & MANIPULATION!!!

[nrj]

Göran Persson has done some horned signs in his reign, and he have ruled sweden for quite some time (9 years, and Social Demokraterna itself has held the power since 1917). Sweden started to become more free and liberalized, until Olof Palme was killed (And, as with JFK, no one have identified the killer). It just stinks of a conspiracy in all these events. And, our most vital city, Gothenburg/Göteborg, has another symbolism: an obelisk. The building wich is highest over sea level, is a ride in the amusement park: Höjd Skräcken (Fear of Hights, if roughly translated). It is, if you look closer, an obelisk in disguise, just like the Eifel Tower. I dont know with you, Balder, but I think this is more then a coinsidence. But, I might just be crazy, I dont know. But, I think that my nation is ruled by the Illuminati. They want our forests, as the rest of Europe wants. We are the most forest tightest country in the world. If the Illuminati had NWO plans some centuries ago, Sweden would be a great target, and it might still be. What o you think? I want someone not from the nation to hear my view first before I call it plausible when talking on the web.

[Balder]

listen m8, perhaps i wasn't clear! sweden is ruled by the Illuminati as is the rest of the world! no secret there! Also the Black Nobility played a huge role in the illuminati take over of northern europe!
Sweden also have free masons, and high political lodges, which your social democrats (left wing) are a part of!
Also the assassination of Olaf Palme is a conspiracy, wasn't he killed in the middle of the street, without protection even though your secret police, knew of the threats some organizations had made! also hes wife where there correct? and she went unharmed, and couldn't even give a description of the so called "lone assassin"!

Sweden is rich on natural resources, and have been used, but i fear that our purpose have been served, and in time short we will be un-needed!

Don't know of the amusement park you are speaking of, but one thing the illuminati loves, is to put symbolism right in front of us! and gloat at our lacking intelligence!!!

Also the eiffel tower is an obelisk and the statue of liberty is the assyrian/babylonian/sumerian/egyptian mother goddess, as virgin maria is to the christian! its the same gods & symbols being used over and over again!
With very few independent religions! in the world! most have been dictated to their needs, share a little here, share a little there, all believe they hold the ULTIMATE TRUTH! which no one offcourse have, even the Illuminati/Black nobility/committee of 300, don't have it! there fore i believe it is all being run, by some thought of conciseness from the 4th density, perhaps even the 5th!!!

[nrj]

Sweden is rich on natural resources, and have been used, but i fear that our purpose have been served, and in time short we will be un-needed!


Your swedish?

[Balder]

why do you ask!

as to the "our" part, i ment the entire human race!

[nrj]

Ok. I thought you meant swedes (my bad!).

[nrj]

Don't know of the amusement park you are speaking of, but one thing the illuminati loves, is to put symbolism right in front of us! and gloat at our lacking intelligence!!!


Ooops!!! I wasnt clear enough. Ok, not all of you know about the amusement park in Gothenburg: Liseberg. Liseberg is the most popular amusement park in Nortern Europe. About 3.4 million people visit it, anualy. The ride I´m talking about, Höjd Skräcken, is a tower were you are paulled, slowly and slowly upwards, until you are about 80 meters from the ground. Then, you fall! Well, It is the building that has the highest location over sea level in Gothenburg, and just like the Eifel Tower, it is an obelisk! These 3.4 million people, who goes there to laugh and have fun, have no idea of this obelisk´s meaning. They just think its fun to ride!
http://www.schleimspur.de/tour2001/liseberg13.JPG

[Balder]

you are very anxious, and i feel you are jumping to conclusions sometimes!
it IS very POSSIBLE that this could be another symbol, but it could also be POSSIBLE that its just for fun! there are many of those OBELISK you speak of in many amusement parks!
Its a thrill ride, its meant to give you adrenaline! how ever a possible theory could be that they are using these "obelisk" to channel all that energy, and store it! one thing is sure; they need all the "human" energy they can get! They are parasites feeding on our most basic emotions! like fear, hatred, anger, sorrow, GUILT etc...

http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/jclicker/images/MI-5.jpg

symbol of MI-5 (british intelligence) shows the pyramid and the one eye!

http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/jclicker/images/Paris-Obelisk-&-Denver-Dome.jpg

here we have a dome and an obelisk! which represents! the male penis! and are used to focus energy out of the 3rd density!

http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/jclicker/images/Cleopatras-Needle.jpg

also the official meaning has something to do with osiris and sun worship not to forget!

[Protostar]

I am swedish NRJ. And proud to be, of course I am an American first and formost but, my lineage, what can I say but HELLO!!!
I happen to know for a fact (and I rarely will say fact unless it is so) that some groups prefer to have a cover group. You and I nor they will EVER know the upper echelon unless you are one.

[nrj]

you are very anxious, and i feel you are jumping to conclusions sometimes!

Ooops... It wasnt my intention of being all that. I think I´ve better go ahead and play some Starcraft, and gather my thoughts.

[Balder]

http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/jclicker/images/Obelisks.jpg

http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/jclicker/images/Washington-Monument.jpg

http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/jclicker/images/Glass-Pyramid.jpg

also the glass pyramid of louvre was build by a mason! and it is built of exactly 666 glass triangles! it was build by the Freemason, Francois Mitterrand!!!

Why is all this done! as i have said before I BELIEVE it has something to do with FOCUSING POWER outside this density!

[Balder]

To NRJ!
no worries m8!

i know how you feel, and i know where you are coming from! i haven't said that you are wrong! but to me it seems that you are very eager to prove something! always look at what you think with fair criticism!
You are doing an excellent work! thank you for helping me out in this thread!

now go play some starcraft or i will zealot your ass!

[nrj]

Just one question, Balder: How did you know that much about Palme mordet, if you´re not a swede? Dont mind answering it, if you think it´s a dumb question

:dork:

[Balder]

Just one question, Balder: How did you know that much about Palme mordet, if you´re not a swede? Dont mind answering it, if you think it´s a dumb question

:dork:


de svenska soldater de skiter i havet sä det bublar.

ich spreiche nicht deutch, so was is los?

but i do however speak english!

men mit modersmål er dansk!

8p

btw: i hold the philosophy that there are no dumb questions, only dumb answers. 8p *LOL*

[Balder]

http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/jclicker/images/Rosy-Cross.jpg

http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/jclicker/images/A-Dime.jpg

http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/jclicker/images/Fasces.jpg

Now we should put our eyes towards the Fasces!

i will come with an article tomorrow that i wrote my self!

[nrj]

de svenska soldater de skiter i havet sä det bublar.


Hmm... I thought it only was the finnish and the norwegians who were against us!

Livet e en tärning, och det bästa du kan få e sex!

[Balder]

Hmm... I thought it only was the finnish and the norwegians who were against us!

Livet e en tärning, och det bästa du kan få e sex!

i was joking m8, off course your soldiers doesn't shit in the ocean!

and i find svenska flicka very interesting

[nrj]

i was joking m8, off course your soldiers doesn't shit in the ocean!

and i find svenska flicka very interesting

Yeah, I know you were joking! The nordic countries are like brothers: We joke about each other, but we will always stay together! Och ja, de svenska tjejerna är fina, men de danska är det inget fel på heller! :drool:

[Balder]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/january2005/130105fasces1.jpg

http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/january2005/130105fasces8.jpg

http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/january2005/130105fasces2.jpg

some fasces in/on US buildings!

[Balder]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/january2005/130105fasces3.jpg

http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/january2005/130105fasces5.gif

US NATIONAL GUARD

http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/january2005/130105fasces7.jpg

[nrj]

What about that article you said you were going to post today?

[Balder]

Definition: The fasces were bundles of rods or sticks with an axe secured in the middle, which means that however much they may have been carried symbolically, they were capable of inflicting a beating or killing. The rods were 5 feet long and 6-8 inches thick, wrapped with red thongs. They were carried, as symbols of power, by Roman lictors in front of certain important people, like kings, consuls, decemviri, praetors, vestal virgins, proconsuls, and others, depending on when and where. The number of fasces-bearing lictors helped symbolize the importance of the officials. It is thought that the fasces came from the Etruscans, but the evidence is inconclusive.


http://ancienthistory.about.com/cs/rome/g/fasces.htm

http://www.hist.uib.no/antikk/redigerte-stamp/r154.jpg



Etruscan fasces
The Romans believed that the fasces were introduced in Rome from Etruria. Again, this may be true, but the tradition is open to some criticism. So far, only one set of fasces has been found in Etruria, in the so-called Tomba del littore near Vetulonia, in 1890. This find has been hailed as a confirmation of the tradition, but it should be noted that the archaeologists only found a lot of small rusty flakes, which were interpreted as Etruscan fasces, which, they had to admit, were not identical to Roman fasces.
blades, and finally: the Etruscan fasces were extremely small. It has been said that the find from Vetulonia is only a miniature model, but this is poor method: to rescue an interpretation, one introduces a hypothesis. Of course, doubts about this find do not prove that the fasces did not come from Etruria. One argument for this tradition is that the least unconvincing etymology of the word lictor is that it is derived from a Etruscan word that means "royal". fasces
The ancient Greek historian Herodotus suggested in his book The Histories that the Etruscans immigrated from the small country of Lydia in Asia Minor. Although another Greek historian, Dionysius of Halicarnassus, believed that the Etruscans were indigenous people, the Roman historian Livy and the Greek historian Polybius agreed with Herodotus.
Indeed, archeological digs support the view that the original Etruscans were an Oriental or Middle Eastern people (emigrating from somewhere between Syria and the Hellespont) and first settled in the the marshy, coastal land of the Tuscany region around 900 B.C. Etruscan power began to decline in the 5th century B.C. as they were challenged by other groups. The Romans conquered Etruria about 283 B.C. Gradually the Etruscans assimilated into the Roman culture.


http://www.warcrimes.org.uk/captain/murder_inc/blaironholiday/fasces/history/fasces3.jpg



The word lictor may be derived from the Latin verb ligare, which means "to bind". This is sometimes said to refer to the fasces they carried, which were a set of rods that were bound in the form of a bundle, and contained an ax. In other words, the lictor was the man who prepared the fasces, the "binder", or had to -according to other sources- bind the hands of criminals. An alternative for these unconvincing etymologies is that the word is derived from the Etruscan root lauchum, which means "royal". There is something to be said for this, because the lictors had once been the bodyguard of the Etruscan and Roman kings, and the fasces are probably an Etruscan invention. lictor
In Rome it represented the power of certain magistrates who could order the beating of a criminal. The judges’ assistants, called licteurs, did the work with sticks. These fasces became the symbol of union and accord. how to read images
Fascism went by many names in many different countries: the National Socialist German Workers (Nazi) Party in Germany, the Legion of the Archangel Michael (Iron Guard) in Romania, the Arrow Cross in Hungary, the Ustasha in Croatia, the Falange in Spain. Regardless of the name, all fascist parties shared a similar ideology. Fascism takes it name from the symbol of the Italian Fascist Party, the fasces. Like the swastika, the fasces had a long and honorable history before it was appropriated by Mussolini and his fascist thugs. Three fasces appear on the 10-centesimo dark green Fascist Emblem of the New Government stamp, Italy Scott 159, shown in Figure 2, which was issued to mark the first anniversary of Mussolini's seizure of power in 1922. The fasces is a bundle of rods and among them an ax with a projecting blade. The fasces was a symbol of the Roman republic that embodied strength in unity. Individually, the rods and ax handle could be broken. Bound together, they were unbreakable. Fasces were borne before Roman magistrates as a symbol of their authority.
Many stamps illustrate Fascist principles


http://www.warcrimes.org.uk/captain/murder_inc/blaironholiday/fasces/history/fasces.jpg

http://www.warcrimes.org.uk/captain/murder_inc/blaironholiday/

[Balder]

http://www.warcrimes.org.uk/captain/murder_inc/blaironholiday/fasces/history/mussolinispeech.jpg

1937 - Tripoli: Mussolini between the lictor's fasces, gives a speech directed to all Muslims of Libya

http://www.ticino.com/olduserpages.htm

http://www.warcrimes.org.uk/captain/murder_inc/blaironholiday/fasces/history/Napoleon06.jpg

Napoleon


http://www.warcrimes.org.uk/captain/murder_inc/blaironholiday/fasces/history/Kongres.jpg

USA's President! George Bush JR.

[Balder]

http://www.warcrimes.org.uk/captain/murder_inc/blaironholiday/fasces/history/cap_500_r_pr_512.jpg

either side of the flag on the five dollar bit

http://www.warcrimes.org.uk/captain/murder_inc/blaironholiday/fasces/history/Capitol37.jpg

Lincoln monument, figure to the left of the centre holding a fasces


http://www.ancientlibrary.com/seyffert/pages/0236.gif

[Balder]

What about that article you said you were going to post today?


i will see if i can the time to finish it! i don't know though, have a long weekend ahead of me! perhaps i will first get around to it on monday!
anyways try digging, perhaps you could beat me to it! 8p

[nrj]

i will see if i can the time to finish it! i don't know though, have a long weekend ahead of me! perhaps i will first get around to it on monday!
anyways try digging, perhaps you could beat me to it! 8p

Yeah, I hope I can, you need all the evidence you can get! The world thinks the world is fine, and it will keep doing so until it is proved wrong. Thats gonna be tough, when it only listens to Big-Brother and media!

[nrj]

The Illuminatis most used symbols is the lighted torch, the symbol of knowledge and the Sun. When an initiate reaches a certain level in the pyramid they are said to be illuminated, more symbolism of the lighted torch. One of the recurring stories in the ancient world is of a hero figure who takes fire (knowledge) from the gods and gives it to the people - the chosen few people, that is. The Watchers (extraterrestrials) called Azazel and Shemyaza were among those who gave advanced knowledge to humans, according to the Book of Enoch.

[nrj]

http://H:\Documents and Settings\Pontus Ekholm\Mina dokument\Mina bilder http://www.graninge.se/upload/Scandic.jpg

[nrj]

http://www.flipsideshow.com/images/US%20flag%20with%20statue%20of%20liberty%20closeup .jpg http://www.divasthesite.com/images/dianamemorial.jpg

Sorry, but the Scandic hotel picture was meant to be in the same post as these!

[nrj]

Did I jump to conclusions this time?

[RavenWhitefang]

http://www.racediecast.com/INDY%20CARS/rice-04indywin18gl.jpg
http://www.torch2004.com/media/TR_SP_COMP_EN_H.jpeg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/Eastwood.Mall/torch-and-oval_60s.jpg

Torches are everywhere. Might I direct you guys to an interesting site. Goro Adachi (http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/) Is a guy who loves making connections out of everything. Hes got an interesting theory about the Torch meaning.

[nrj]

I had problem to navigate on that site. I didnt get a chance to read anything :bncry:

[stewey]

Some of you guys jump to conclusions quite easily..

[Balder]

http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/jclicker/images/Eternal-Flame.jpg

http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/jclicker/images/Eternal-Flames-Memorials.jpg

http://www.davidicke.net/symbolism/jclicker/images/Olympic-Torch.jpg

some symbols of the eternal flame!

i doubt scandic a/s has something to with illuminati. it is possible to use the flame symbol without being a pawn of the NWO...
The sun is a fairly common symbol!

[Balder]

Here we have the Fasces, The Star, The Eye, The Pyramid, The eagle, the owl, the phoenix, the inverted star, geometry, mathematics, the female goddess i.e. Isis, Juno, Virgo etc. Flaming Torch of Reason, Torch of Enlightenment, sun worship, Supreme Being worship, all connected for us to see…

Also we have “groups” who uses these symbols!
Knights of Malta, Skull and Bones society etc.
Tavistock, Stanford, Rand institutes etc. MI6, CIA, Mossad, Interpol, Vatican
Bank of international settlements, GATT, WTO
Round table, Royal institute of international affairs, Bank of England, Federal reserve, other central banks, world bank, IMF
club of Rome, trilateral commission, Bilderberg, Council on foreign relations, NATO, OECD, G7, European Union.
Drug companies, National Health Organizations, USA, Europe, Japan, Nation States, Banking, business, media, military, education, national state forces.
WHO, UNESCO, UN environment and population control agencies, United Nations, UN army…

Then all of the above could be a coincidence, they just happen to use the same symbolism!
And they don’t even know what their symbols mean! It could also be a coincidence that they are
The richest in this world and held the power by our choice!
It is also very likely that they share common interest, and are working together in this!
The western world is over producing, when we don’t buy all that crap they make! The stock market
Falls and interest raise.
There for we have to buy more and more, to keep making PROFIT, not just surplus but a bigger one
Than last year! If we don’t do that, the company is not healthy!
THE MONEY ISN'T THERE, ITS JUST NUMBERS ON A COMPUTER, IF ALL WHERE TO
GET THEIR MONEY, THE BANKS WOULD CLOSE, THEY ARE LENDING OUT MONEY
WHICH ISN'T THERE!

Can I lend you money, when I don’t have them?

When I look at the world I see a race for TV’s, play stations, Hugo boss, Gucci, Bmw, Mercedes,
Cadillac’s and not food and love, they are out on the sides watching! Feeling left out!


Who knows?

My enemy is de-occupied, and finally became part of me!

I no longer fear
I no longer regret
I no longer hate


Rolls wisdom saving throw for ultimate knowledge dc: 100 (rolls 001 = fails)

Also I need to gather my thoughts so I wont be posting for some time!
I will be on chat sometimes, and read posts on AO!


ps: as to the gather thoughts part! it has nothing to do with this thread or any of the theories here in.
It is a personal matter!

[stewey]

Settle down there dude.

[Balder]

Settle down there dude.

care to elaborate that mate?

[nrj]

Let me do it for him: He think we are a couple of European mindless idiots who jumps to conclusion and that symbolism don't mean shit. Isn't that what you think, though the simmilarities are undeniable?

[stewey]

Let me do it for him: He think we are a couple of European mindless idiots who jumps to conclusion and that symbolism don't mean shit. Isn't that what you think, though the simmilarities are undeniable?

Well, there are vague similarities, but that doesn't mean that its connected. For example, here in USA, lots of companies have eagles for logos. Does that mean they are connected? Nope. Organizations are the same way.

[Balder]

Perhaps this message is to harsh! and for that i apologize!
I do not indorse personal attacks!

This message can contain sexual explicit scripts or writings!
wEEver* discretion advised!

or something like that! 8p

*standing ovation*

Thank you!

*FNORD*

this subliminal message was brought to you by the fire-drill instructors for a better tomorrow

*FNORD*

ps:wtf is viewer??? 8-)/\(-8

[Balder]

This was writen by me for some masons! but it all still aplies to the agenda i am presenting!

And the truth shall set you free! (The End)

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"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."



Free Masons know that real information "can't" be known! If real information could be had by every one, it would immediately become worthless. Information, by its very definition, implies IGNORANCE and EXCLUSIVITY. They require ignorance in order to be informed.

There are three ways to lie: by deliberate mis-statement; by leaving out relevant facts; by adding irrelevant facts. Free Masons use all three.

We have been arguing back and forth, and I have been called names that no one would ever dare say to my face. This will be my final statement and attempt to say what I think about the Free Masons and their allies, I have tried to bring some light on some of the issues, but have repeatedly been ridiculed and laughed at.
I will start with telling you what the Free Masons are composed of, and then I will try to expose their hidden agenda, this will be a long read as I have to go back some 8000 years and fourth to the present time.


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"In the depths of my heart, I can't help being convinced that my fellowmen, with few exceptions, are worthless."



You need to first imprison the "human" mind with a rigid belief and a fundamentally limited sense of reality - the "sheep" pen. It doesn't much matter what the beliefs may be, so long as they are rigid and discourage free thought and open-minded questioning. Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Shintoism, Confucianism, Zionism, Fascism, Capitalism, Communism, Liberalism, Socialism, Absolutism, Agnosticism, Altruism, Atheism, Determinism, Dualism, Egoism, Emperism, Evolutionism, Hedonism, Idealism, Materialism, Monism, Mysticism, Naturalism, Pantheism, Pluralism, Pragmatism, Rationalism and Theism etc.
This is what the Free Masons implore, and use on their initiates! All "ism" is a control form; it is used to keep the "sheep" in place! It is used to manipulate the "sheep" into thinking they know what is going on! But they don’t. You then encourage those who follow these rigid beliefs to impose them on others and make life very difficult and unpleasant for anyone who does not conform.


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"There's no money, there’s no possessions, only obsessions! Take my money, take my possessions, take my obsessions! I don't need that shit."



Masonic Structure:

The most commonly known "cults" are the York rite and the Scottish rite, which are the basics of Free Masonry, then we have the more elite cults and they are named Red Cross, Knights Malta and Knights Templar. Also they are ruled by the Grand Council and the Ordo Templi Orients, they abide to their rules; the Masonic "cults" also include sub "cults" like the Eastern Star and the White Shrine. The "cult" is then divided into different ranks, the Scottish rite has 33 ranks, the O.T.O has 10 ranks and the York rite has 10 etc. You then have to go through these initiation ceremonies where you declare you allegiance and faith in the Great Architect of the Universe. What is the purpose of these initiation ceremonies? There is a simple answer for this; it is the same as any law: what is the purpose of law? OBEDIENCE! Obey or be punished! Obey or die, be exiled etc. etc.


Masonic Ranks:

Scottish rite!


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*****313233*****
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0102030405060708



33° Inspector General
32° Sublime Prince of the Royal Secret
31° Inspector Inquisitor
30° Knight Kadosh
29° Grand Scottish Knight of Saint Andrew
28° Knight of the Sun, Adept
27° Knight Commander of Temple
26° Prince of Mercy
25° Prince of Brazen Serpent
24° Prince of Tabernacle
23° Chief of Tabernacle
22° Knight of Royal Axe
21° Prussian Knight or Noachite
20° Master, Symbolic Lodge
19° Pontiff
18° Knight Rose Croix
17° Knight of East and West
16° Prince of Jerusalem
15° Knight of Sword
14° Perfect Elu
13° Royal arch of Solomon
12° Master Architect
11° Elu of Twelve
10° Elu of Fifteen
9° Elu of Nine
8° Intendent of Building
7° Prevost and Judge
6° Confidential Secretary
5° Perfect Master
4° Secret Master
3° Master Mason
2° Fellowcraft
1° Entered Apprentice

York rite!

10° Order of Knights Templar
9° Order of Knights Malta
8° Order of Red Cross
7° Royal Arch Mason
6° Most Excellent Master
5° Past Master
4° Mark Master
3° Master Mason
2° Fellowcraft
1° Entered Apprentice

Ordo Templi Orients!

10° King Rex
9° Initiate of Sanctuary of Gnosis
8° Perfect Pontiff
7° Grand Inspector
6° Knight Templar
5° Knight of Pelican and Eagle
4° Knight of East and West
3° (?)
2° (?)
1° (?)


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Knowledge is power.


If you store the world's knowledge..

all the knowledge from ancient times until now..

and store it and keep it secret..

that's the biggest wealth that you can have in the world.


Then you can sell chunks of that knowledge.

You could sell one chunk as one religion, another chunk as another religion..

and those chunks are so amazing to the people that you present it to..

who have had the knowledge hidden from them in the first place..

that it is revalationary..

and inspires belief and faith in that religion.


Now each chunk believes their chunk to be the holy truth..

but none of them see the whole truth..

and don't have access to all the knowledge that has been kept throughout the centuries..

by, collectively, what I call the Illuminati, and many others do..

the collecting of these old, old secret societies..

who have kept the libraries of conquered civilisations..

hoarded, held, sold and controlled.


Knowledge is power.



Masonic History:

The Masons are sun worshippers as almost every one else is, they worship a God called the great architect of the universe, this is very close to the name the great architect used in Egypt as a name for their pharaohs. Also their prophet or savior named Solomon, is actually only one word repeated three times, Sol = sun, Om = Sun and On = sun, so here we have a name that is Sunsunsun. The connections I am about to draw out for you, are Egypt - Babylon - Sumer - Rome - England - USA. Before we continue I would like to quote some lyrics made by Axel Rose;


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“They were a black armband when they shot the man who said peace could last forever, and in my first memories the shot Kennedy I went numb when I learned to see.”



I have seen enough evidence to build the foundation of my theory against the Free Masons, no more parley no more peace talk, and I am aiming for the throat!


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“We practice selective annihilation of mayors and government officials for example to create a vacuum, and then we fill that vacuum. As popular war advances peace is closer!”



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“Power Hungry!, selling soldiers in a human grocery store, ain’t that fresh?”



Biblical and Historical References (sub chapter):


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The highest knowledge is unutterable, for it exists as an entity in lanes which transcend all material words or symbols. All symbols are but keys to doors leading to truths, and many times the door is not opened because the key seems so great that the things which are beyond it are not visible. If we can understand that all keys, all material symbols are manifestations, are but extensions of a great law and truth, we will begin to develop the vision which will enable us to penetrate beyond the veil.



I will try to prove in this sub chapter that the Babylonian, Sumer and Egyptian Empires were in fact one big empire run by the same rulers, the point of this is to prove that the Solomon and other Masonic figures are the same as the rest of the merry crowd; it is just another name for another part of the land.
So lets start with a famous Masonic character, the hero Hiram Abif (“the widow son”) as he is named by the masons, are not as they say a Babylonian Chief Architect but actually an Egyptian architect named Harem Atif (“Hiram is my father”) which was under the rule of the great pharaoh Sheshonq I, who is the true King Solomon. So here we see that their so called history intermingle or let me say this “it is the Egyptian history” rewritten to fid their perverted needs. So why would they claim all this? If they know it isn’t true. To hide a simple fact, it is the same “people” that have controlled the world under different names! The Illuminated Free Masonry knows about this, and hides the truth from their own disciples of this perverted blood cult. Also the Free Masons as we know them today originate from old mystery schools as Comacine Masters and Dionysian Artificers, the evidence is in their obsessed use of symbols it is simply the same ones. Also the knights Templar is behind the building of many European cathedrals and have build them by the old sacred geometry from Sumer and Egypt.

[Balder]

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The word for axe in Egypt was neter, which is very close to neter-kherti, a term that means quarry man or stonemason. This is highly likely to be the real meaning of the axe in the symbol fasces. The axe is also associated with the goddess, the key figure in illuminati rituals. Ma’at was sometimes portrayed holding the fasces and a flame. The 22° of the Scottish rite is called “Knight of Royal Axe”



Source: Tempest and Exodus / Tales from the Time Loop


The following quote is a Free Masonic explanation of the 22° in the Scottish rite:


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This degree teaches that all labor is honorable, and the “tolling millions” should be respected and assisted. The Phoenicians, especially those of the city of Tsidun, are remembered as those who cut cedars on Mount Libanus for Noah’s Ark, as well as the Ark of the Covenant and the temples of Jerusalem. The peoples of Phoenicia, Hiram of Tyre and Hiram Abif included, were tied to the Israelites by the fact that they shared the mysteries , and it is even said that the Etrurian and Roman colleagues of Artificers descended from them via the Hyksos. The lodge, styled a college, has two apartments. The first is a plain room which represents a workshop on Mount Libanus. Here the senior warden, or “master carpenter,” presides. The second room apartment is hung in red, lighted by 36 lights, and is called the council room of the round table. The brethren sit at a round wooden table, and the alter in the east holds the 3 great lights and an axe. Battery: [2:2:2]. The apron is white, bordered in purple, and contains a three headed serpent and a table with instruments and plans on it. The jewel is an axe and handle of gold. On the top of the handle is the signature of Noah and Solomon. In the middle of the handle are the initials of Libanus and Tsidun. On the blade are the initials of Adoniram, Cyrus, Darius, Zerubabbel, Nehemiah, Ezra (on one side), and Shem, Kham, Yapheth, Moses, Ahaliab, Betselal (on the other).



Source: The Book of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry.


Now remember their own reference to the subjects of Hyksos and also remember what I wrote about Hiram Abif and Solomon.

But first the Fasces, what is this "fine" symbol? Well I will start by telling you about the "people" and countries that use it: Egyptian Pharaohs, Babylonian Kings, Sumerian Kings, Roman Emperors, Hitler, Mussolini and the AMERICAN GOVERNMENT!!! To name a few!
We see it on old roman and Egyptian writings and pictures, we see it on Nazi and fascist stamps and buildings, also we see it in Free Masonic references and "hold on here" in almost all of the Americans government buildings, on their money and National Guard emblem etc. Now we have to remember, and this is very important, the Free Masons are not the ruling party of this world! The non-existent Illuminised Free Masons, are just a small part of the Illuminati, committee of 300 and black nobility etc. etc. Again remember this is a hierarchal pyramid structure, the "people" in this structure only knows of the ruling party right on top of them selves! Hence; this is why they use this ancient and tested form of control! "The pyramid within the pyramid". But it would be fair to say, that the Free Masons control most of USA, and perhaps have deep roots in UN/WHO/NATO/EU etc. They also have ties to Zionism and Israel! Also they have ties and are tied to; GATT, WTO, Round Table, Bank of England, federal reserve, world bank, IMF, club of Rome, Trilateral commission, Bilderberg, council on foreign relations, OECD, G8, UNESCO and most multi national companies. The round table is in turn connected to; Dutchey Foundation, CFR, Trilateral Commission, IISS, Bilderberg, Rhodes Scholars, Aspen institute for humanistic institute, Canadian institute for internal affairs, CBA, Union of concerned scientist, RIIA, MI6, PERMINDEX, NRO, and are connected to the committee of 300 which control east India and west India Co. china's and Afghanistan’s opium trade. UN, US NRO. and have some influence on Brookings institute, Hudson institute, Wharton school of economics (uni of Pennsylvania), RAND Club of Rome, Institute for social research, Princeton institute for advanced studies, social psychiatry, Harvard psychiatric clinic, SRI, CIA, MK-ULTRA, and off course the STAR group (insurance, banking, real estate, entertainment and high tech (cybernetics, HAARP, communications, etc.)), Also as a side note, the Free Masons are connected to the Order of St. John, Teutonic Knights, Knights Hospitaller and Priory of Sion*, but all this is for another thread. So as you can see it is all intertwined, and they all serve to help the agenda of Manipulation and Control.

*Remember this Sion aka. Zion.

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A person is thought to be great souled if he claims much and deserves much... He that claims less than he deserves is small souled... The truly great souled man must be a good man...Greatness of soul seems... a crowning ornament of all the virtues... Great honors accorded by persons of worth will afford pleasure in moderate degree: he will feel he is receiving only what belongs to him, or even less, for no honor can be adequate to the merits of perfect virtue, yet all the same he will deign to accept their honors, because they have no greater tribute to offer him. Honor will be rendered by common people and on trivial grounds he will utterly despise, for this is not what he merits... He therefore to whom even honor is a small thing will be indifferent to other things as well. Hence great souled men are thought to be haughty...The great souled man is justified in despising other people - his estimates are correct; but most proud men have no good ground for their pride... He is fond of conferring benefits, but ashamed to receive them, because the former is a mark of superiority and the latter inferiority. He returns a service done to him with interest, since this will put the original benefactor into his debt in turn, and make him the party benefited. The great souled are said to have a good memory for any benefit they have conferred, but a bad memory for those which they have received...It is also characteristic of the great souled men never to ask help from others, or only with reluctance, but to render aid willingly; and to be haughty towards men of position and fortune, but courteous towards those of moderate station... And to adopt a high manner with the former is not ill-bred, but it is vulgar to lord it over humble people... He shows timidity; and care more for truth than for what people will think;... He is outspoken and frank, except when speaking with ironical self-deprecation, as he does to common people. He will be incapable of living of the will of another, UNLESS A FREIND*, since to do so is slavish... He does not bear a grudge, for it is not the mark of greatness of soul to recall things against people, especially the wrongs they have done you, but rather overlook them. He is... not giving to speaking evil himself, even of his enemies, except when he deliberately intends to give offence... Such then being the great souled man, corresponding character on the side of deficiency is the small souled man, and on that excess the vain man.



All emphasis added by me.

* Mason friend perhaps? If my master is my friend I am not a slave? Perhaps it could be understood as this "you can only have one master, and that master is your friend" either way he talks about obedience and the vain man, the petty man! THE SMALL MAN! Free Masons are great men according to them selves! Perhaps they would even say they are great souled men! Does that make us non mason’s small men or small souled men? Or perhaps even VAIN MEN?...

Was Aristotle a mason or part of the Illuminati? I actually like this quote, but there are a lot of "subliminal" messages in this quote! Also; Aristotle was the teacher of Alexander the Great! Who was assassinated on he's 33rd birthday, under very suspicious events. Alexander was also known as the "serpent son" and he founded Alexandria i.e. the city of the serpent son.

[Balder]

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All propaganda must be so popular and on such an intellectual level that even the most stupid of those toward it is directed will understand it. People can be made to perceive paradise as hell, and the other way round, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise.



According to the Egyptian account of creation, only the ocean existed at first. Then Ra, the sun, came out of an egg or a flower that appeared on the surface of the water. Ra brought forth four children, the gods Shu and Geb and the goddesses Tefnut and Nut. Shu and Tefnut became the atmosphere. They stood on Geb, who became the earth, and rose up Nut, who became the sky. Ra ruled over all. Geb and Nut later had two sons, Set and Osiris, and two daughters, Isis and Nephthys. Osiris succeeded Ra as king of the earth, helped by Isis, his sister-wife. Set, however, hated his brother and killed him. Isis then embalmed her husband's body with the help of the god Anubis, who thus became the god of embalming. The powerful charms of Isis resurrected Osiris, who became king of the netherworld, the land of the dead. Horus, who was the son of Osiris and Isis, later defeated Set in a great battle and became king of the earth.

From this myth of creation came the conception of the ennead, a group of nine divinities, and the triad, consisting of a divine father, mother, and son. Every local temple in Egypt possessed its own ennead and triad. The greatest ennead, however, was that of Ra and his children and grandchildren. This group was worshiped at Heliopolis, the center of sun worship. The origin of the local deities is obscure; some of them were taken over from foreign religions, and some were originally the animal gods of prehistoric Africa. Gradually, they were all fused into a complicated religious structure, although comparatively few local divinities became important throughout Egypt. In addition to those already named, the important divinities included the gods Amon, Thoth, Ptah, Khnemu, and Hapi, and the goddesses Hathor, Mut, Neit, and Sekhet. Their importance increased with the political ascendancy of the localities where they were worshiped. For example, the ennead of Memphis was headed by a triad composed of the father Ptah, the mother Sekhet, and the son Imhotep. Therefore, during the Memphite dynasties, Ptah became one of the greatest gods in Egypt. Similarly, when the Theban dynasties ruled Egypt, the ennead of Thebes was given the most importance, headed by the father Amon, the mother Mut, and the son Khonsu. As the religion became more involved, true deities were sometimes confused with human beings who had been glorified after death. Thus, Imhotep, who was originally the chief minister of the 3rd Dynasty ruler Zoser, was later regarded as a demigod. During the 5th Dynasty the pharaohs began to claim divine ancestry and from that time on were worshiped as sons of Ra. Minor gods, some merely demons, were also given places in local divine hierarchies.

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Apep was the Egyptian god of evil, an immense snake who nightly attempts to devour the sun, only to be Defeated at dawn eternally, until the last dawn. The last dawn of the Egyptians is described in Plate Ten of the Papyri of Ani, the Egyptian Book of the Dead. This same plate of the Papyri contains a hymn to Apep, a curious Anomaly when one considers that Apep is incarnate evil and hymns are reserved for the praise of kindly deities. The Juxtaposition of the Egyptian Apocalypse with the only extant hymn to Apep is not coincidental. The two are commentaries Upon each other, and they reveal the vestigial remains of a Snake-Sun cult that is older than the Egyptian Old Kingdom.



http://www.flamingfire.com/GodMagazine/thesunisasnake.htm
Remember that Maat aka. Themis and Justitia with the sword, scale and blindfold. Is a symbol of TRUTH and JUSTICE!

"THE WINGED SERPENT STAFF OF THOTH, was also the symbol of the Sumerian Ninhursag, Greek Hermes, and Roman Mercury."

"Thoth was the wisest of the Egyptian gods. His other names include -Djhuty, Djehuty, Dhouti, Djehuti, Tehuty, Tehuti, Thout, Zehuti, Sheps, Lord of the Khemenu."

"Thoth was usually depicted with the head of an Ibis. He was the Scribe who wrote the story of our Reality then placed it into grids for us to experience and learn."

"He was also called the God of the Moon. He created everything."

"He was sometimes depicted as a seated baboon-headed dog."

"The name Thoth means 'Truth' and 'Time'. Thoth was the Master architect who created the blueprint of our reality based on the mathematics of sacred geometry. It is here - in the Duality of our experience - reflected in gods and goddesses, the landscapes of Egypt including the pyramids and temples - the myths and metaphors - that we experience time and emotions. Above is the ibis headed god of Thoth. Notice how this scribe gods head is shaped exactly as an early compass, as in the Freemason symbol of the Square and compass below?"

"Even Thoth himself is seen in many other forms BEFORE and after Egypt. The Sumerian Ninhursag was a motherly goddess of wisdom who held the guarded CADUCEUS entwined serpents up a winged staff, 2000 years before Thoth adopted this symbol. The Greek Hermes is the mirror of Thoth, holding the Caduceus as well, and being the wisest of the gods. Mercury is Thoth from Rome at 500BC. Mercury held the Caduceus symbol as well and was believed to be wisest of the gods because He was the closest PLANET to the power and knowledge of the Sun."

"Technically Ninhursag is the proto-type of Thoth, being a protective and nurturing mother figure who guarded the King. Thoth guarded Pharaoh Osiris as well, when Osiris was cut into 14 parts by the serpent god Seth.-Ninhursag, Thoth, Hermes and Mercury are all protectors of the fire of knowledge. The knowledge of the truer path. But this answer is made from a puzzle, and many parts of mis-direction and misinformation are scattered in the midst to divert
our perception from our REAL history."

"The story of Osiris/Horus/Isis is the same allegory as the Sumerian Inana/Dumuzi, Hindu Krishna, Persian Mithra, Babylonian Ishtar/Tammuz, Mexican Quetzelcoatl/Venus, and Jesus and Mary. The secret of Mary Magdeline that the Templars and Merovingians supposedly hold, isn't that Mary and Christ survived the cross and birthed a royal French dynasty, but that Mary Magdeline, and Mary Mother of Jesus are meant to be the SAME woman/goddess! Just as all of the other gods/goddesses mentioned are mother/sister/husband composites"

My thanks to goes to preZ* from AO, for "lending" me the above statements! As i see no reason to re-write it, as he "paints" the "picture" very well.

[Balder]

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The Forty-Seventh Proposition of Euclid

The Pythagorean theorem states that for any right triangle the sum of the squares of its two legs equals the square of its hypotenuse (a2 + b2 = c2). Or we could frame it as the sum of the square of the horizontal and the square of the perpendicular equals the square of the hypotenuse. We know this formulation was known before Pythagoras - there is evidence in ancient Egyptian work, ancient China (the Chou Pei manuscript), and the megalith builders.
Regardless, it is attributed to Pythagoras and two hundred years later Euclid compiled his "Elements of Mathematics" where this particular proposition is found in Book One. (47th) In every right angle triangle the square on the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the squares on the other two sides. (48th) If the square described on one of the sides of a triangle is equal to the square described on the other sides, then the angle contained by these two sides is a right angle. This theorem has been called the root of all geometry and the cornerstone of mathematics. The practical applications alone are worthy of the high esteem that Masonry affords it. And this is the interpretation of the lecture that is most considered when masons speak of it But the meaning of this hieroglyphically emblem does not stop there. The emblem we are usually presented is the 3,4,5 right triangle in this fashion: The vertical line is of 3 units, the horizontal is of 4 units, and the hypotenuse is of 5 units. Not only is our attention called to this geometrical figure in the Master Mason degree, it is also prominent in the Scottish Rite in the 20th Degree - Master of the Symbolic Lodge and in the 25th Degree - Knight of the Brazen Serpent. Rex Hutchens, commenting upon the 20th Degree in his book on the Scottish Rite explains that: Nine is a perfect number, being the triple of three. There are nine candles in three groups of three each on the East, West, and South of the Altar. They form a graphic representation of the 47th Problem It makes no difference in the equation if the other two angles are 45 degrees each or 30 degrees and 60 degrees or 5 degrees and 85 degrees. Because of the mystic meaning associated with numbers by the ancients, they considered the most beautiful triangle of all, the right angled triangle with sides of 3,4 and 5 units of measure. (Rex Hutchens, The Bridge to light, p.171) In the 25th Degree commentary Hutchens describes the setting of this degree: The ceremony takes place in four apartments. They are all remarkable in their simplicity. The first is called the House of the Earth. ...The second apartment is called the House of the Planets. The third apartment is ... styled the House of the Sun and Moon.... The principal chamber is called the House of the Light.Nine lights (candles) are arranged on the altar in groups of three, forming a representation of the Pythagorean Theorem,... (The Bridge to Light, p.215) The evidence that the particular triangle alluded to in the Monitor is the 3,4,5 right triangle can be derived from the odd comments about Pythagoras' exclamation "Eureka" in the Grecian language. Here is where we can begin to apply the investigative tools of what is called gematria. As you know the ancient letters were also numbers. The correlation of numbers with letters gave ample opportunity to nest hidden meaning within words, phrases, and names. For example, if we take the word "Eureka" in Greek and consider the letters as numbers instead of letters, add them up to get a total value we get 534 - the units of this special triangle. Maybe we can even find hints of this geometry in earlier degrees. A very interesting technique of symbolism can be seen when two different types of symbolism are fused together or alluded to by one another such as a legend that contains mathematical symbolism. For example, many of the blacksmiths of the gods were crippled or lame. In many cases the Sacred King was lame. The destiny of the Sacred King was to lose his life as a sacrifice; an act which will regenerate the world. Usually the lameness and sacrifice was deliberately caused. Vergil wrote a poem wherein the Queen who is resolved to die offering herself as a victim in the fire, he writes: "beside the altars, with one foot unshod, she calls as one about to die upon the gods and upon the doom-witnessing stars." There is an association between lameness and having one foot unshod. And in the idea of sacrifice and redemption. There is a Byzantine painting known as "Our Lady of Perpetual Help". This painting is of the Madonna holding her divine child. On each side of them there is an angel who holds some of the images associated with the Crucililion. The divine child is looking at one angel and one of his shoes is falling off. We can even find this idea in the slanting foot-rest of the Russian Cross in the Eastern Churches. We can develop this further. In geometry, there are three types of triangles: equilateral, isosceles and scalene. The equilateral triangle has 3 equal sides; the isosceles has 2 equal sides, and the scalene triangle has no equal sides. Scalene means "uneven"; it also means "limping". Of all the infinite scalene triangles, the one thought of by the ancients as special - the king of them all, was the 3,4,5 unit triangle. This one had the special properties and it grew to have mystical properties as well. In so considering the symbolism of the Egyptian structure one author states: And so beneath the ideal pyramid, with its four great equilaterals pointing heavenward as they converge above the center of the basal square... there would be sacrificed, hidden in the foundations so to speak, a limping but necessary scalene, supplying the all-important right angle for the base and for the central elevation. (Denning & Philips, The Magical Philosophy, Vol. 2 p.58) As we consider geometry as symbolism as well as Truth, we have to think of it as the ancients did. Pythagoras said "All is Number" and in The Republic, Plato wrote: "The knowledge at which geometry alms is the knowledge of the Eternal." The Eternal was to Plato the archetypal Forms, or the timeless truths of existence. In other words, the foundation of the universe. That aspect of the universe which always was and ever will be.



Also we need to take into account Prometheus! As he has great meaning to the Free Masons! but for now lets focus on Hyksos, Solomon and Hiram Abif: The Sumerian history includes a tale about King Sargon, the Akkadian King. Which resembles, or let me say; IT IS THE HISTORY OF THE LATER HEBREW MOSES.
This tells us again that it is the same history re-written, when history talks about the son of god, what they mean is the son of the SUN. Jesus was not the son of god, but the son of the sun, as pharaohs and Sumerian Kings etc. also called them selves. As we see the same gods under different names, we also se the same Kings, pharaohs and emperors under different names.
For reference we can take into account, the Sumerian tablets which is from around 2000 BC. They speak of the "King in the basket", "EDEN" and "The great flood".
So to make a quick translation dictionary, of the" HOLY" scriptures, you can use this as thought of a red thread, it is not complete and it is not perfect, but it will do for now.

God = Gods i.e. the gods who walked with "man" or the one god ie. The sun or THE POWER BEHIND THE SUN.
Hero = Not a god, not a human, child of the gods.
Angel = Messenger of the gods.
Ra = Shamash (winged sun disc)
Sons of shem = sons of the sun, sons of ra.

The Hyksos are known as the "shepherd Kings" and "rulers of foreign land", they are said to have invaded Egypt around 1700 BC, they put into power these "priest Kings" or pharaohs, who were then learned about the secrets of Keops i.e. pyramid of Giza aka. Mount ZION. And about the mystery schools, i.e. the Free Masonic "fore fathers"!
Now who was one of those "priest Kings"? Pharaoh Sheshonq I, aka. King Solomon i.e. the savior of the Free Masons? As evidence suggest the Hyksos are a bloodline from ancient Sumer, two Sumerian Kings were called "shepherd kings", and the Sumer / Egypt history is the same as I have pointed out.

[Balder]

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"The historical record of Sumer runs substantially parallel to that of Egypt, dating back to some 3000 BC, with the king lists much the same as to be found in Egypt. Historically, it would appear that at some point in history, elements of the Sumerian culture sailed across to Egypt and that the first dynasty of Egypt, therefore, had much in common with the Sumerian peoples."



Source: Jesus, Last of the Pharaohs.

But evidence tells me that the "shepherd Kings" didn't invade, they were all ready there! They just started a "revolution", the "sheep" vs. the reigning "bull", hence their name "shepherd Kings"! So here we have Aries vs. Taurus i.e. shepherd and cattle story aka. Jacob vs. Laban. Aries vs. Pisces i.e. shepherd and fishers of men etc. And now we have Pisces vs. Aquarius. I could go on and on with examples like this, etc. Abraham is in fact a pharaoh called Sheshi, whose throne name was Mayebra! Abraham’s son Isaac was a Hyksos pharaoh called Anathar, and Isaacs’s son Jacob was again a Hyksos pharaoh called Yacobaam.
Yacobaam had the 12 sons that founded Is-Ra-El i.e. Isis - Ra - Eli or the trinity if youd like. aka. the 12 tribes of Is-Ra-El.
Then around 1600 BC, the people of Abraham left Egypt to invade Jerusalem, also we have the Jewish writer Josephus who describes the fleeing Hyksos as "our ancestors". But the Hyksos did return to Egypt, as written in the story of Joseph. The Hyksos have deep ties to the Egyptian mystery schools at Heliopolis.


quote:
"Both Amenhotep II and Amenhotep III were called "Hyk" in their royal title - meaning "shepherd king", more interestingly, their origins are also listed in the record and Amenhotep II's full title is "Hyksos King of Heliopolis"; which makes sense as this was the sacred temple and university of the Hyksos princes. Egyptologist is strangely silent on this fact."



The Hyksos King David aka. Psusennes II father of Solomon aka Sheshonq I, were "priest Kings", this is why it is told that Sol-Om-On, had these great magic powers. Also King David aka. Psunennes II, was the First to put hieroglyphs in the Keops pyramid i.e. pyramid at Giza aka. Mount Zion. So to set the record straight Solomon’s temple is not in Babylon but Tanis i.e. Tcian or Zian, on the eastern delta.
Then we have the BenBen stone; which stands inside the temple of the phoenix, (remember that the phoenix is to be used in the Free Masonic Great Seal of the US. currency.)


"The U.S. Great Seals on the One Dollar Bill are Egyptian in Origin. The ALL SEEING EYE AND PYRAMID, and the Eagle of the PHOENIX. The Phoenix comes from PRE-PYRAMID AGE Egypt with the fiery Benu Bird."

"The Benu bird was worshipped by the Sun cult of BenBen, and the first altar in Egypt was erected to the BenBen stone and holy obelisk. The BenBen stone was pyramid shaped and the obelisk itself was said to have sprouted/self created from the primordial MOUND at the dawn of creation. It was believed that the BenBen stone was the unification of the petrified SEMEN of the Benu bird, and the Pharaoh."

"The Benu is another Egyptian sun bird resembling a heron. It is identified with Ra the sun god. Benu means Ascending One, Purple Heron and Palm Tree."

"Like the phoenix, this bird was identified with the temple to the sun gods at Heliopolis. The Benu was also known to be a symbol of Osiris incarnate, renewing itself. It has a two long feathers on the crest of its head and was often crowned with the Atef crown of Osiris (the White Crown with two ostrich plumes on either side) or with the disk of the sun."

"The Phoenix and the Benu - The same:

Each was a primordial god, which built its nest on the willow which is on the top of the primordial hill.

The deities Re (Ra) - and Atum were akin to the symbolic meaning of both.

Because of its birdlike nature, the phoenix was called "ba of Re" - the soul of Re. The Bennu was also associated with the sun and represented the 'ba' or soul of the sun god, Re.

The soul was believed to be a birdlike spiritual being.

As a deity of creation and life it was also associated with Osiris.

The phoenix was called "the famous ba, which came out of the heart of Osiris".

There was a connection to the deity Kepera (the scarab-god), the Lord of Life and Death.

The phoenix supposedly burns itself in his nest on the hill (sunset) and is being reborn the next morning. The hill is being located on the Flaming Isle of Re in the East, where the sun rises.

At Koptos in Egypt, the Bennu bird is depicted with two human arms stretched upwards and outwards toward the star Sothis - Sirius , which appears in the early sky before the sun rises.

The Phoenix/Bennu bird is said to arise 'at dawn from the waters of the Nile'. It is linked with summer.

The Bennu was the sacred bird of Heliopolis. Bennu probably derives from the word weben, meaning "rise" or "shine." In the Late Period, the hieroglyph of the bird was used to represent this deity directly. As a symbol of the rising and setting sun, the Bennu was also the lord of the royal jubilee.

The Bennu was also associated with the inundation of the Nile and of the creation. Standing alone on isolated rocks of islands of high ground during the floods the heron represented the first life to appear on the primeval mound which rose from the watery chaos at the first creation. This mound was called the ben-ben.

The Bennu was also considered a manifestation of the resurrected Osiris and the bird was often shown perched in his sacred willow tree.

Resurrection; Christ consumed in the fires of Passion and rising again on the third day; triumph over death; faith; constancy; Christ's divine nature (as the Pelican was of his human nature).

In early Christian tradition the phoenix was adopted as being resurrection and immortality. Through Christian eyes, we are taught to believe in the resurrection, as Christ himself exhibited the character of the phoenix: "I have the power to lay down my life and to take it up again."

Using Christ's life as an example, one can live a similar learning life of rejuvenation.

The phoenix makes a coffin and fills it with fine smelling spices, then dies where the stink of corruption is (effaced) by (agreeable) smells.

Man may make a coffin of faith, faith being Christ, who sheathes and protects you in days of trouble. Your good spices are your virtues-chastity, compassion, and justice, being odors of noble deeds, sweet in life (as Christian doctrine dictates).

Depart from life with the clothing of this faith, and as St. Paul states, "I have fought the good fight, I have finished the course, I have kept the faith, the crown of justice is restored to me."

Thus, as with all other symbols, there is a cycle, a returning to something, as in many things of life. A symbol occurs because of its reflective association (the return) with the one viewing the symbol. It is lived through the interpretation of the viewer.

In alchemy the androgenous figure of a combined male/female form is the most holy of cosmic manifestations."

Again my thanks goes to preZ, from AO for lending me the above statements.

[Balder]

But for now lets go back to the Sumer - Babylonian - Egypt connection. The Babylonian trinity consist of; Nimrod (the fish), his son Tammuz (who died for our sins), Semiramis (the dove) aka. Father, son and the holy ghost. As we see, we also have Mary (virgin mother of Jesus, who is Isis (virgin mother of Horus) and Semiramis (virgin mother of Tammuz). Tammuz was also the son of god aka. the SUN! This is why the Free Masons, orientate their temples to the east, they face GOD! Also the Nimrod/Semiramis story is the same as the Osiris/Isis story. More names of Mary is Semiramis, Athena, Minerva, Astarte, Cybde, Astoreth, Diana aka. The MOON!

!!IT IS THE SAME HISTORY!!

Free Masons know this, they know that all religion is from pre-Christian or pre-Jewish rituals, where we worship the sun and the ancient bloodlines of Hyksos etc. Now lets focus a little on Hiram or should i say Harem, Harem is a priestly title in Egypt as with Haremheb etc. in Arab temple mount is Harem a-Sharif. But we can trace these "cults" all around the world, but for know lets point our noses at England, and remember the Dragon / serpent connection to god aka. Gods.


The Roman England connection (sub chapter):

Not going to go into great detail here, as much is all ready written about the Roman Empire! Just to point out some relevant facts; I would like to say that the mystery schools have a big influence on the creation of the Vatican state and the dawn of Christianity. Also the Jesuits play a large part, but as I say there is all ready enough written on this!
Then for a short time the control moves to Holland, with William of orange playing a large part in this! And from there they went on to invade England! Around 1700 AD…
I know this is a large jump but this subject is well written and I don’t feel I can ad anything here! And as I have all ready exceeded my quoting limit, I will have to hold back for now, but I will happily add to any questions and provide links and sources if needed for this period!
To the coronation of the British monarchs, we see it is very much indeed inspired by Egypt, it is actually the same coronation performed by the high priest of the old mystery schools! We have the “god save the queen” which was used in the Old Testament at King Sauls coronation, we have the “scone stone”, the scepter and the rod, and also the anointment which have deep ties to Egypt and the serpent (crocodile). This was used in coronation ceremonies by the ancient Egyptian Pharaohs. This is used to elevate the monarch to the rank of HIGH PRIEST!
Then of course, we must not forget the CROWN aka. The city within the city, this is a privately owned corporation owned by the Free Masons, it is always “run” by a council of 12-14 men, and the Lord Mayor of the city is ALWAYS a Free Mason. The sitting monarch has to bow and get permission to enter by the Lord Mayor.


The Mason connection to the United States of America (sub chapter):

Well as the above sub chapter, not much is needed to say here, as this is also well documented!
Just a few facts for you guys to play with, for instance; of the 55 signatories who signed the independence declaration 50 were Free Masons.
The Great seal, well I aren’t even going there, I find it very funny though how Free Masons always got some of their own guys in the big projects like Buzz Aldrin (the moon), Douglas Macarthur (Korean war), Harry S. Truman (Hiroshima and Nagasaki), Benjamin Franklin etc. etc. etc. etc.

And to name a few mason presidents;

GEORGE WASHINGTON
THOMAS JEFFERSON
JAMES MADISON
JAMES MONROE
ANDREW JACKSON
JAMES KNOX POLK
JAMES BUCHANAN
ANDREW JOHNSON
WILLIAM McKINLEY
THEODORE ROOSEVELT
WILLIAM HOWARD TAFT
WARREN GAMALIEL HARDING
FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT
HARRY S. TRUMAN
GERALD R. FORD

But as you can see, not much is needed to add on the later dates as it is all too well documented!
This finishes this little article, if I may call it that!


To the moderators on this forum, I here by INVOKE DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY!
I am an envoy of the Anti Masonic Free League! I say ban me, kick me and censor me! I dare you.


quote:
Who are the richest people in the world? Well, it has to be the bankers who own the printing
press and are loaning the money, doesn't it? The IMF owns 2/3rds of the worlds gold.
Every time there is a small increase in the value gold, that makes the IMF exponentially richer,
and exponentially more powerful. The IMF, with the world bank connect to the central banks of all
but 5 nations of the world. They loan the money to nations and taxes are collected as payment.
The world bank currently receives more money in interest repayments than they are loaning out.
Where does this lead? The UN starts talking ownership and control of real assets.. land, estate
and even law of those nations.



Quote taken from my good friend StoneSkull


Balder

[nrj]

Good to see you again, Balder! Long time no seen! Ever since I read you're thread, I have searched for my own after symols. And I have found. O yes, have I found some of them.
http://www.graboportalen.info/images/Polisen/polis1.jpg
Is this a coincidence? And I also saw pyramids in the govermental logos
http://www.egetforetag.com/blue/massa/sthlm/skatteverket.gif
I have also seen the eye, the pentagram and the sun symbol on a memory mark in the harbour dedicated to a trading company called the Colunin order (don't know if that was correctly spelled) who was said to be a stretching from the Meddeterrenean to Skagerack. But now when the school have started, I don't get that much time to surf on those kind of things, wich is ashame.

[Balder]

Good to see you to!

I like the police symbol! fasces, trinity of crowns, 5 crosses, 28 pearls!

really good find ill save that to my personall collection!


thank you nrj!

oh is skatteværket? IRS ie. tax institution?

[nrj]

Yes, Skatteverket is the swedish IRS. I found out the Swedish police force was a part of the NWO, when I was in a Swedish forum. Off course, they said:

"Jag tror inte på sånt bajs!"

And:

"Öh... Källor?"

Yeah, so I had to draw up the pics and links you posted. Turned out they were stubborn, and said that the fasces was the symbol wich means "The right to punish", and posted the pic of the swedish police badge as an example. Lol... I actually said that the fasces appears in goverments, and they post an example of goverments in the NWO without knowing it.

[Balder]

Can not be argued! just show them the dictionary!
and tell them of the reference to FASCISM!


anyways good job NRJ!

[nrj]

fasces, trinity of crowns, 5 crosses, 28 pearls! The trinity of crowns is an illuminati symbol? Well, I just had to look at my ATM card to see a new symbol.

http://www.guardianfx.com/links/bank_sweden.jpg

[Balder]

That these symbols is to be found on all things that has something to do with; money, police, military, government and royalty etc.

[nrj]

But, the swedish insignia is the trinity of crowns. I mean, we have them on the hockey players. But yes, other than that, they only appear in the goverments, polices and banks. And in the Swedish East Indian company.

[nrj]

But, those 28 pearls on the crown... Well, that crown is not just on the police badge. Its on the coins as well. Along with the trinity of crowns.
The swedish coins on display (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krona)

[Balder]

we have to be carefull with numerology! other than that, i am leaving denmark soon i have found some individuals over in the states and we are all moving together! we will be prepared! we will go into hidding and come forth when the time is right!

[nrj]

Huh? You're leaving and hiding? Well, it would be moronic to ask you were, since any one could see it then.

[Balder]

i am leaving, and i can only say; to the states!
hiding yes, so we can practise and prepare in peace and undisturbed!
The work well be doing is not, how can i say this! the public might think we where doing something cinister and report us!

anyways well be there when we are needed

[nrj]

Ok. This means I wont see you in the forum any more? Well, what needs to be done, needs to be done.

[liberdave]

Hail Eris, Balder! Hail Discordia! Let your catma have sex with your dogma!
To quote the Great Hassan i Sabbah (Old Man of the Mountain) "Nothing is true, everything is permited." :nerdo: Greatest of Anti-Bad luck in most of the things you will not won't do, if ERIS gives a fuck!
--->May you be deafened by the roar of one hand clapping!<---
May your GNOSIS' include chickens, cleavers, WaTeR+MeLoN rInDs, and napalm!
Be the apple,
~~Her oscillating LEGIONNAIRE DISCIPLE,
PoEE liberdave

[Balder]

Hail Eris, Balder! Hail Discordia! Let your catma have sex with your dogma!
To quote the Great Hassan i Sabbah (Old Man of the Mountain) "Nothing is true, everything is permited." :nerdo: Greatest of Anti-Bad luck in most of the things you will not won't do, if ERIS gives a fuck!
--->May you be deafened by the roar of one hand clapping!<---
May your GNOSIS' include chickens, cleavers, WaTeR+MeLoN rInDs, and napalm!
Be the apple,
~~Her oscillating LEGIONNAIRE DISCIPLE,
PoEE liberdave

LOL

I think you have misunderstood me but i love the post!
You a fan of Alister i.e. your avatar?

NRJ: well have internet and electricity even water and sewage LOL

Anyways we have made contact to a group that can provide safe internet and servers, the only downside is they dont take cash, you can only pay them in gold and silver!

[Balder]

no comments to my fine article???

perhaps it is to long 20+ pages, is a long read!

anyways there are some good relevant info there!

[nrj]

Well, I am still reading it, Balder. That's some long shit! But, it is very interresting to see you're knowledge. I think you've done a great job with the article, and so far it's some cool reading! Not to mention very educating.

[nrj]

Yes... One more thing, Balder; Is the olive branch an Illuminati symbol? I've found it on quite many things that has to do with media.

And another thing, is Russia a big part of the NWO? I mean, they have the two headed pheonix as their coat of arms.

[Balder]

Well i think that the olive branch represents peace in submission! But i have seen no real evidenc of it being an illuminati symbol, though i think it is one!

The communist party was startet by the round table (read my posts), and there for still have ties to Illuminati, the commetee of 300 had thier hands in the making of the KGB, which is the ruling party of Russia to this day!

[nrj]

Ah, ok. Well, the olive could be a symbol for globalisation. Peace between everyone and all that. So it could refer to our "just courts" and "one police force". What do you think about that?

But Russias coat of arms is older then the communist party. How can that add up?

[Balder]

hide in the mist of the enemy my friend you have something to learn about combat i see

[stOneskull]

sleep is good for the mind.

good morning.

[Metalcore]

u see wut i mean, somebody always hates somebody, still fighting trying to outthink outprove one another. why bother? Everybody get together and accept the fact that something isn't right cuz after all its just u n me. The world we know is over soon thats all i have to say.

[Balder]

stoneskull is that really you? or an imposter?
could an admin verify that the IP is from AUSTRALIA?


haha the eye is watching, the poo is near, and we shall all eat cream and meat popcicles...


HAIL IESR