Chemtrails are *not* abnormal

[stewey]

I have been telling you people for a long time.

http://www.watchingyou.com/kooktrails.html
http://www.nmsr.org/chemtrls.htm


If there is a giant conspiracy to spray chemicals from the sky, chances are good that Professor John Day is not a part of it. The author of six books on meteorology, Day is a world-renowned expert on clouds, a professor emeritus at Linfield College and a regular contributor to the McMinnville News-Register, ... When he hears the word 'chemtrail,' however, Day's frosty mustache droops, and his sky-blue eyes darken. 'I don't happen to warm up to that phenomenon,' he sighs. Despite his reluctance to be drawn into the controversy, Day graciously agreed to examine photographs of chemtrails to see if he spotted anything unusual. 'This is a perfectly normal situation with cirrocumulus cloud and a single spreading contrail,' he declared after inspecting one photo for a full minute. Then he flipped to the next. 'Nothing weird about that. Cirrostratus cloud...' And the next. 'The criss-cross pattern is a consequence of planes flying criss-cross patterns....' And the next. 'I've seen many situations like this one....' Contrail formation, Day explained, depends on the relative humidity of the atmosphere-- he ratio of what is to what could be at a particular temperature. When relative humidity is low, contrails dissipate within seconds. But when relative humidity is high, especially at the subzero temperatures of the upper atmosphere, the addition of even a tiny amount of water vapor acts as a catalyst. Under these conditions, contrails may linger and spread to cover the whole sky. ...At length, Day extracted from his bookshelf a well-thumbed edition of Peterson's Field Guide to Clouds and Weather, which he co-authored in 1991 (a good 10 years before chemtrails became widely discussed), turned to the section on contrails, and pointed to a photograph of a thick, white plume--a plume that looked for all the world like a chemtrail...

I can explain cloud development if you really want, but "chemtrails" are nothing abnormal.

[prezhorusin04]

So in other words, a professor who is getting paid by the state to say that the increased emissions of 'chemical-trails', is nothing abnormal and we shouldn't worry about it..

I'd believe a nobody off the street who has taken pictures of chemtrials over an extended period of time, before i'd believe some college professor who'll probably get a raise and promotion for saying that chemtrails are all completely normal occurances..

Just the fact that the site is entitled 'kook-trails' barely deserves a response...

Yes, they've been spraying contrails for a very long time now, many decades. But the activity has increased 1000% in the last 10 years, and now their are trails being left in certain patterns, and positions in the sky, in directions and altitudes nowhere near any airports. Cross hatches set up over specific portions of the sky..

And if you'll observe, many times these things linger for an hour or two, before they slowly dissipate, merge, and become large clouds that would almost appear to be of natural formation..

Stew, just go really observe your own town or city and watch some of these patterns. If you don't have them in your part of town, then i'm sure there is a neighboring town near you that probably does have them on a regular basis.

In my town, it doesn't matter if i'm 10 minutes from downtown, or half an hour out into the country, the chem-trails are still being left in sporadic, and suspicious patterns.

Anyway, until you have an experience of your own that makes you question what's happening, then you'll probably keep believing that everyone else is crazy, and you're obviously the only sane person left..

Step outside your box. There's a view out here. And, who knows, you might even see a rather suspicious group of chemtrails form a cloud of rain over your city... :bubble:

[MacRasta]

Yes, they've been spraying contrails for a very long time now, many decades. But the activity has increased 1000% in the last 10 years, and now their are trails being left in certain patterns, and positions in the sky, in directions and altitudes nowhere near any airports. Cross hatches set up over specific portions of the sky..

Well Prez, this description really does make it sound like normal contrails. They are never near an airport, because before contrails form, you'll have to have some altidude, less oxigen and different temperatures.

Patterns; of course, A/C have to follow "corridors" like a car on a highway.

Activity increased; change in atmosphere : heat doesn't "leave" the earth as it used to, so upper layers are colder and are more keen to make bigger and longer lasting contrails, also more A/C in the skies... (don't want to start discussing altitudes and so on)

For a long time I've been reading stuff about chemtrails to find the unusuallity in it, but there is none...

After working for almost 5 years at an int'l airport, I can't get enough of looking at A/C in the skies, at take-off or on approach... and after talking to some captains and chief-pilots I believe it's ridiculous, there are no chemtrails, it all depends on altitude, temperature, moisture and throttle... not much else.

No dissin' Prez, just telling what I saw with my own eyes and heard with my own ears. (and like you see on my avatar, I have big ones!)

MacDishes

[Assassin X]

This is why some people that start believing in "Conspiracy Theories" get out of hand. Then they start thinking EVERYTHING is a more then it is. :crazy:

The trails are by jets. I see the SAME EXACT PATTERNS every day! You know why? Well besides the fact i live near a international airport there are patterns jets have to fly therefor their patters are always going ot look the same.

As for Dr. So and So. Or Professer. Whosit of Whatsit saying all this crap about it WHO CARES. They are probably jsut as crazy as everyone else is. Just like the "Supposed" Professers and Dr.'s and Army people that say they worked on Alien/Ufo projects!

Every conpiracy, every mysterious thing(Ufos, bigfoot) all have their BIG important people that say its true. And you know what it probably isnt. People are just to messed up in the head nowadays and believe anything they hear.

I suppose next someones going to say the president is actually a robot being controlled by aliends from inside the moon? :eek:

[stewey]

Let me explain how coulds develop.

First of all, some quick facts youll need to know to understand:
- Warm air can hold more moisture than cold air.
- As you go higher in the atmosphere, it gets colder (not always but usually).
- Relative humidity is the percentage of moisture in the air compared to how much moisture the air can hold (ie 50% relative humidity means that the air is at 50% moisture capacity before the water condensates)
- For a cloud to develop, relative humidity must hit 100% and there must be something in the air for the water to condensate against (dust, smoke).

So when a plane flies, high in the atmosphere where it is colder, it lets out moisture and smoke. The moisture condensates against the smoke if the RH is 100%, which causes a mini cloud.

[stewey]

So in other words, a professor who is getting paid by the state to say that the increased emissions of 'chemical-trails', is nothing abnormal and we shouldn't worry about it..



Actually, Linfield College is a private college, so he isn't paid a cent by the government.


And... What would the government gain by spraying "chemtrails"? Why would they want to make their citizens ill?

[lotrfan55345]

http://www.relfe.com/Images/chemtrail%20contrail.jpg

I only seem to see "contrails" when I go to other countries than the United States. It is only in the US that I see "chemtrial" type things.

[stewey]

http://www.relfe.com/Images/chemtrail%20contrail.jpg

I only seem to see "contrails" when I go to other countries than the United States. It is only in the US that I see "chemtrial" type things.


The type of plane, the location, and the altitude has to do with the difference in the appearance. That "chemtrail" actually looks like it could be a normal cirrus cloud.

How would the government benefit by spraying "chemtrails"? They are always shown to be in the sky, too, which would make them even more non-beneficial.

[lotrfan55345]

The type of plane, the location, and the altitude has to do with the difference in the appearance. That "chemtrail" actually looks like it could be a normal cirrus cloud.

Why yes, I understand that, but my question is why don't I see them in other countries, even with relatively similar atmospheric condtions.


How would the government benefit by spraying "chemtrails"? They are always shown to be in the sky, too, which would make them even more non-beneficial.

Experiments on the population? Population reduction? I dont know but all I am saying is that I dont see "chemtrails" in other countries which makes me wonder about them.

[stewey]

Why yes, I understand that, but my question is why don't I see them in other countries, even with relatively similar atmospheric condtions.


Experiments on the population? Population reduction? I dont know but all I am saying is that I dont see "chemtrails" in other countries which makes me wonder about them.

What other countries have you been to?

I have seen websites that reported them seen over Australia, Mexico, Canada, and others.

[MacRasta]

In Belgium aswell...

[Red Shift]

i've seen em here in the UK 0.o

[lotrfan55345]

What other countries have you been to?


Mexico, Canada, Indonesia, Phillippines, Japan, Hong Kong (when still under british rule)

In 1st world countries I can expect that some organization would be doing that, but I have not seen chemtrails in any of the counrties I've mentioned, even with busy Int'l Airport(s) nearby.

(Of course I'm not insinuating that all of thouse countries ARE 3rd world)

[nrj]

I've seen them here in Sweden. Particilaurly (man, that was a hard word to spell) in Stockholm, but they do exist here in Gothenburg as well.