View Full Version : Were Adam & Eve black, oriental, hispanic etc.?
B.NyeTheUruk-Hai
Jun 7th, 2005, 11:51 AM
If we are all descended from Adam and Eve, then how do we have all of the different races of humans? I mean, technically, there should only be ONE race of humans if we all descended from Adam and Eve. So how the heck did we end up with whites, blacks, hispanics, asians, indians, middle-easterners etc. etc. etc.?
nrj
Jun 7th, 2005, 12:33 PM
"Because God thought it was funnier that way." Any christians first argument on this thread.
Keeblergiant
Jun 7th, 2005, 12:36 PM
Does that mean that God likes that race better? I mean, he did create them first...
nrj
Jun 7th, 2005, 12:45 PM
Maybe thats what the KKK thought.
DarkAce
Jun 7th, 2005, 7:26 PM
If I remember correctly it had something to do with the tower of babylon if you want to go by mythology's sake. Then again I can't remember if it had applied to only the different languages.
The story of Adam and Eve could/should be used as a metaphor.
Houston411
Jun 7th, 2005, 10:08 PM
They were white, but i'm sure there closest ancestors are black, due to the africa sun. (thats why people r black)
Keeblergiant
Jun 7th, 2005, 10:11 PM
They were white, but i'm sure there closest ancestors are black, due to the africa sun. (thats why people r black)
That doesn't make sense. How were they white and their closest ancestors black? That's not nearly enough time for evolution to take place and differentiate between race. And besides, recent fossils show that the first humans were most likely Asian, not black or white.
lotrfan55345
Jun 7th, 2005, 10:41 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/610px-Human-phylo-tree.png
Human Race timeline thingee.
Keeblergiant
Jun 8th, 2005, 12:05 AM
That's how we thought it was, but we've recently found evidence to suggest that humans first evolved in Asia, not Africa.
nrj
Jun 8th, 2005, 4:42 AM
Well, Keebler, that theory is very likely. I mean, how could China surpass EVERY other ancient nation? The only thing that would make sense would be that they evolved there first.
dutchie
Jun 8th, 2005, 5:03 AM
The bible thumpers have an explanation...
Both fundy christian factions and mormons think that black people are descendant from Cain, Abel's brother from the book of Genesis, who killed his brother to reclaim his birthright, and was cursed by God.
The black colour is therefore the "curse of Cain"...
Yeah, yeah, I know... It's too bizar to even think about it.. Racism actually has it roots in religion...
Personally I think Adam never existed... Explain to me how Cain (one of the three remaining people on the entire earth) went to a nearby "city" and found a wife...
nrj
Jun 8th, 2005, 5:25 AM
It is not possible at all, dutchie. But, some how, it has never been questioned over the 1600 years of actuall christianity. But, I guess this answer will come up pretty often if you say that question to a priest: "The Bible is mostly symbolic."
Mezurashi
Jun 8th, 2005, 7:05 AM
Adam and Eve weren't white, black or Oriental (my preferred term, 'Asian' is just another way of saying 'fuck you yellow man') - they were meta-beings who looked like perfect people except with zebra stripes of all colours.
The Serpent who tempted Eve with the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge wasn't Satan in disguise, it was Jesus Christ in his pre-miracle birth days. This prank was why Jesus eventually came to Earth to preach and die in pain - God made him do it as punishment for his screwing with Eve's head.
Noah's Flood was known in the Celestial Realm as "The Lord's Bad Allergy Season" and it wasn't water the Ark was floating on (eeeeeeew!).
And Jimmy Swaggart Really Is The Lord Returned to Earth. Really.
Adrien 79
Jun 9th, 2005, 10:02 PM
black people would need time to get their color
asians would need time to form asian eyes
ect.
so i'd say white or middle eastern.. just for the sake jesus was
Keeblergiant
Jun 9th, 2005, 11:56 PM
black people would need time to get their color
asians would need time to form asian eyes
ect.
so i'd say white or middle eastern.. just for the sake jesus was
You start with the assumption that asians didn't have chinky eyes or that black people didn't have black skin. I could just as easily say it would take time for white people to form their western eyes and their white skin (which is more than likely what happened), or that it took time for middle eastern people to evolve their skin color and eyes. Your argument is redundant. Oh, and nobody cares what the hell race Jesus was...Jesus came thousands of years after the first people...I'm pretty sure racial differentiation had occured before then and hadn't all of the sudden happened within the last 2000 years.
jjserio
Jun 10th, 2005, 12:34 AM
People have tried to compare mans past to the bible since it was first written, but the more we learn about ourselves, the more we learn its an impossible task. People still do it though, determined to make it all fit they come up with unconventional bible interpetations and fuse in modern knowledge of "our" history.
Which lets clarify, we are Homo sapiens sapiens.
Current evidence suggests a history of only 120,000 years (based upon modern humans average brain size of about 1350 cc).
Be sure not to confuse us with any other evolutionary relatives. Remember there's many branchs on our family tree.
A good example are the neandertals (Homo sapiens neandertalensis), whom co-existed with us up to about 35,000 years ago, weren't as closely related to us as once thought, in fact recent DNA studies have indicated they were a completely separate species from us as well as our direct relatives Homo sapiens.
Neandertal skull comparisons with other homo skulls suggest they may have appeared in the transition period between Homo erectus and Homo sapiens. Which would explain alot of the major differences between us & them.
B.NyeTheUruk-Hai
Jun 10th, 2005, 10:45 AM
black people would need time to get their color asians would need time to form asian eyes ect.
so i'd say white or middle eastern.. just for the sake jesus was
Am I to assume that we are talking about evolution here? Interesting...
evilwill
Jun 10th, 2005, 7:39 PM
The thing that always anoyed me about the Adam & Eve story was the fact that the entire human race was meant to have spawned from two people.
As has been already pointed out, this doesn't explain the distinction between the different races of human. It also doesn't explain the difference in genetics. If we all came from the same parents, wouldn't we all be very similar in genetic makeup?
Also, the problem of inbreeding. Adam and Eve have kids, then their kids have kids with their siblings and so a massive cycle of inbreeding continues until present day. So are we all the result of inbreeding? Don't you think that would have some adverse effects upon the human species?
Adrien 79
Jun 10th, 2005, 9:09 PM
i dont think race matters though, they were the first humans so that means they had no climate adaptions, or characteristics formed by where they lived.. and they dont only represent the first humans they kind of set an example for male and female.. and then they got married and such which is where the ''marriage is between a man & woman'' thing is from.
Marajadex
Jun 10th, 2005, 9:41 PM
they were the first humans so that means they had no climate adaptions, or characteristics formed by where they livedAre you really trying to say that physical geographic location determines a human beings physical characteristics??? Then following that logic... When a fair skinned person moves to an asian country they will develope asian physical characteristics after living there for a long time? That a dark skinned person will evolve into a fair skinned person after living in Europe or North America? That just doesn't make a whole lot of sense... Besides I thought that in the myth of the "Tower of Babel" that is when the changes to language and physical attributes happened...
So which is it ... Evolution based on physical location?
Or.. Creationism based on biblical theory?
Adrien 79
Jun 10th, 2005, 9:59 PM
your being ridiculous, evolution, common sense.
Marajadex
Jun 10th, 2005, 10:03 PM
your being ridiculous
LOL!!! That is rich!!! LOL!!!!
B.NyeTheUruk-Hai
Jun 11th, 2005, 9:22 AM
your being ridiculous, evolution, common sense.
Mara made perfect sense. Your theory implies that a black man in Africa can move to Japan and they will eventually become white and develop slitted eyes and suddenly not be able to enunciate the letter "L". You rearry are sounding ridicurous...
Marajadex
Jun 11th, 2005, 10:55 PM
I just had to do some looking on the story of the Tower of Babel.
http://www.ldolphin.org/towerbabel.jpg
The building of the Tower of Babel and the Confusion of Tongues (languages) in ancient Babylon is mentioned rather briefly in Genesis Chapters 10 and 11. Genesis 10 is the so-called "Table of Nations"--a list of 70 names of Noah's descendants through Shem, Ham, and Japheth. The list is probably not complete, but we are given a good picture of the division of our race into three branches each having been gifted special giftedness and unique qualities by God, highlighting the spiritual, intellectual and physical sides of man as he was created in the image of God. Genesis 10:6-12 includes a parenthetical section on one of the sons of grandsons Ham, Nimrod the son of Cush.
http://www.ldolphin.org/babel.html
RavenWhitefang
Jun 12th, 2005, 12:23 AM
Actually geographic conditions do have a bearing on the physical characteristics of people. It takes quite a while..say 100,000 years for the genetics to mutate to acclimitize to the region. Blacks have dark pigmentation being from the equatorial regions the dark pigment helps with sun exposure. The large noses come from the rate of oxygen intake that is needed for such climates. White people on the other hand having fair skin were in the northerly colder climates so they didnt need as much skin pigmentation nor larger noses. There was a discovery channel program on it...cant remember the name right off, but it basically went over the Mitochondrial Eve story and how all the different races and such evolved from a tribal woman in Africa. Was an interesting program.
DJ critikaL
Jun 12th, 2005, 4:16 PM
Yes, that is true. I remember watching a television program a few years back that showed Adam and Eve as black people.
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