Gates: Get ready for chip implants

[WiggyUK]

SINGAPORE (AP) -- Technological advances will one day allow computers to be implanted in the human body and could help the blind see and the deaf hear, according to Bill Gates. But the Microsoft chairman says he's not ready to be hardwired.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/07/04/gates.implants.ap/index.html

Amazing how people are thinking about technology today. Remember we have only been using computers for around 50 years, this is only the beginning. Think of the possibilities when we have been using computers for 200 years, if not 2000 years.

[DarkAce]

And that's nothing really. The reak cool stuff is what the army and special ops groups possess. That shit's like 20 years ahead of the commercial stuff we're allowed to see.

[gracestamper]

The chips are already here and in use...check it out

http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/opinion.htm :prin:

[Assassin X]

Implants=Bad :eww:

I love technological advancments to a point. Tagging us so we are always under watch. Its all about control. Of course they pass it off as other things like "You need it to protect yourself from terrorists". Whatever ill pass.

[gracestamper]

I'm trying to be objective with these implants. Most people agree with you, however. I try to think about the crime they'll eliminate, the hassles of losing your kid in the mall will be over, that sort of thing. Where I live the cops are criminals, so I think these chips are definitely in order. We have cops on antipsychotic meds walking around with guns and badges, our sheriff has been removed from office, re-elected and to date has lost his POST certification and can't make arrests. So when we don't know who the criminals are. it's time for a new system. :prin:

[Marajadex]

Can anyone say BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU!!!

[sekse]

Big Brother? Woooooooooooo (ghost sound) I hate to tell you, but 75% of us have a cell phone on our belt and 23% have a cell phone laying around the house they carry every where they go. All modern cell phones have GPS tracking bugs in them "For 911 to locate you" even though they have always been able to triangulate you since they first came out with cell phones. Plus Wal Mart's new RFID tags allow you to be tracked everywhere anyways. Why do they need an implant? We're already bugged!

[Britannia]

SINGAPORE (AP) -- Technological advances will one day allow computers to be implanted in the human body and could help the blind see and the deaf hear, according to Bill Gates.

William Gates (Bill Gates) also said that the personal computer would never need more than 32k of RAM.

[Britannia]

Big Brother? Woooooooooooo (ghost sound) I hate to tell you, but 75% of us have a cell phone on our belt and 23% have a cell phone laying around the house they carry every where they go. All modern cell phones have GPS tracking bugs in them "For 911 to locate you" even though they have always been able to triangulate you since they first came out with cell phones. Plus Wal Mart's new RFID tags allow you to be tracked everywhere anyways. Why do they need an implant? We're already bugged!

What happens if your mobile phone cannot get a signal from a signal mast?

[Protostar]

I'll tell you this, I will never get anything implanted into my system.
is freedom a sneeze word now?

[Britannia]

I once watched a program from a series a few years ago called 'Inventions that Changed The World : Computers' and a man from Oxford has had a chip implanted into him, which enables him to wirelessly control electronic hands exactly as he controls his own hand, it also enabled him to do many other things, at the moment, he says the technology of robots today (2004) is about as clever as bees and wasps, and, as time goes on they will advance, he had the chip inplanted into him so he is ready for the future.

[Perfectionist]

And that's nothing really. The reak cool stuff is what the army and special ops groups possess. That shit's like 20 years ahead of the commercial stuff we're allowed to see.


Dude !! You've been watching to much James Bond !!

The military don't have anything which is 20 years ahead !!

They just have a shit load of money which they give to other companies to do research ...... most of the new technology goes straight into the consumer market to make a profit .....

[DaSoviet]

But with research comes prototypes to see if the idea actually works. I still think computers are our friends though, just the fact that we all have an internet connection and are posting on this board means that we can be tracked. Its when they want to plant them in your forehead or right hand, thats when ya gotta worry...

[ltwild3]

The implants will be used when the NWO comes to power. It will be required. You wont be able to buy things without it. It is their way of tracking and controlling you.
Controlling the whole world will be hard. This is one of their easy ways to do it. Life will be much easier with it. But whoever believes in the bible will know whats happening and rebel. They are out to controll the world all at the end of times.

[perdition79]

The implants will be used when the NWO comes to power. It will be required. You wont be able to buy things without it. It is their way of tracking and controlling you.
Controlling the whole world will be hard. This is one of their easy ways to do it. Life will be much easier with it. But whoever believes in the bible will know whats happening and rebel. They are out to controll the world all at the end of times.

I'll be the guy in line at the grocery store paying for cheez doodles with a severed hand.

[DontBeAfraid]

pacemakers were the first step!

idiots

[Britannia]

I'm sorry, but the new world order is a complete load of old tosh!
The bloody Muslims will have destroyed us with nuclear weapons before anything remotley close to what you say will happen actually happens (and at the rate we're going, that won't be long.)

[Britannia]

Big Brother? Woooooooooooo (ghost sound) I hate to tell you, but 75% of us have a cell phone on our belt and 23% have a cell phone laying around the house they carry every where they go. All modern cell phones have GPS tracking bugs in them "For 911 to locate you" even though they have always been able to triangulate you since they first came out with cell phones. Plus Wal Mart's new RFID tags allow you to be tracked everywhere anyways. Why do they need an implant? We're already bugged!

A problem easily resolved, just chuck the bloody thing in the nearest river!

[Marajadex]

Hmmm... Would that make him the Gates of hell

[jbimid]

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Holds true to the subject.

[failed_christian]

I heard Christians saying stuff like this was evil. I think it's an amazing advancement in technology.. To see people who are blind see and people who are deaf hear. Amazing.

[sekse]

What happens if your mobile phone cannot get a signal from a signal mast?

Ok, maybe I didn't ellaborate enough. Your cell phone has a GPS bug that can still pick you up if you are not in a service area. GPS is a system run by the Dept of Deffense which uses satellites in space to pinpoint your exact location to within well under a foot of accuracy, as well as you speed if moving, your altitude, any info they could need to drop a bomb on your head.

As if this wasn't enough, Wal Mart has just implimented an RFID system that uses radio frequency tags in the barcode of everything in their store (yes, the chips are small enough to be nside the barcode!) With these systems, they can track anything on their property though 802.11 wireless access points if it has a tag. The gov gave them a huge tax break to get the technology working and teach them how to do it (Wal Mart is above the Gov. in technology! imagine that). The beauty is, how many people in here are not wearing a piece of clothing from walmart? later it will be more than just wal mart, it will be all stores nearly. These tags will be implimented at the factory. All the gov needs to do is set up a "nationwide wireless internet system" and bam, you're on the grid unless you go butt naked living in an alley.

So as I said before, who cares if they make a chip, we're already bugged anyways.

[DontBeAfraid]

your exact location to within well under a foot of accuracy.... acrually its more like 10 meters of accuracy(if there is cloud cover).... but thats still pretty amazing.

[infinant plague]

thats would be really nasty....i dont want a nasty knowledge chip put into my brain.

what if something bad happened and i became a brain washed zombie and started killing people and eating them.

or what if i mocked the first thing i saw and the 1st thing i saw was a homosexual or a stripper or something i dont want to immitate. or what if it was grass.

i would just sit there and i couldn't eat or drink anything.

i hate bill gates and his stupid inventions!

[sekse]

.... acrually its more like 10 meters of accuracy(if there is cloud cover).... but thats still pretty amazing.

wrongo. GPS has evolved much since those days. 10 meters is around 30 feet! That's a little too broad. I have a GPS unit for my laptop that can pinpoint me to within 3 inches. Even on cloudy days provided it is not extremely cloudy it can pull about 5 to 6 inches. I was amazed at it's accuracy when I bought it, it is scary in a sense, but it sure helps on my business trips. Go pick up a copy of MS Streets And Trips 2006 with GPS Locator. You will be amazed. I can hold my GPS reciever in one hand, move it to the other and it tracs that movement. They have gotten MUCH more accurate with these things.

[Britannia]

Anyway, If this story is actually proved, I will not use my mobile phone anymore, and I will refuse to have anything remotly electrical implanted into, I was never a real fan of technology, I use computers once or twice a week, but other than that, its just your average household appliances I use.
When you said:

Ok, maybe I didn't ellaborate enough. Your cell phone has a GPS bug that can still pick you up if you are not in a service area. GPS is a system run by the Dept of Deffense which uses satellites in space to pinpoint your exact location to within well under a foot of accuracy, as well as you speed if moving, your altitude, any info they could need to drop a bomb on your head.

I don't live in America, (if this makes a difference), there are no bugs in my phone, and I always keep it switched off unless I make a call. And there is one solution to all of this hoo-ha, to stop them tracking me I simply chuck the phone into a river, and I'm free to go, without being followed.

It actually makes me feel very angry to hear that people want to put things into me, its my body andI say what happens to it.

[sekse]

No matter what country you are in, GPS is everywhere. Call your cellular phone provider and ask them if your phone has a GPS locator, or look it up on the internet for a second opinion. If your phone is GSM compatible, you are on the map. In the US, you can no longer activate a cellular phone without GPS as a law. Basically, if your phone is newer than the old Motorola Star Tacs, it has GPS. It is a system designed so that in an emergency, the operator can pinpoint your location and dispatch emergency personnel. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if it still tracks you with the phone turned off. You can find out by calling your local emergency services from the mobile phone, acting like you are in serious danger, but then hang up before giving your location. Turn your phone off and go hide in the bushes and see if they show up, lol.

[Demonskates]

Big Brother? Woooooooooooo (ghost sound) I hate to tell you, but 75% of us have a cell phone on our belt and 23% have a cell phone laying around the house they carry every where they go. All modern cell phones have GPS tracking bugs in them "For 911 to locate you" even though they have always been able to triangulate you since they first came out with cell phones. Plus Wal Mart's new RFID tags allow you to be tracked everywhere anyways. Why do they need an implant? We're already bugged!
Nicely said! :2thumbs:

[me+three227]

I've heard somewhere ( I don't know how true it is)...that people will have to get those chips or there will be great punishment...They will set a law stateing that everyone has to have one...pretty messed up if it's true

[Jayce_K]

Just take the battery and SIM card out of your cellphone or mobile phone as us Brits call them, no power, no signal, your location cannot be traced.

But its a fair bet that a log is kept somewhere of the last known location of the phone.

[Ningishiddza]

I've heard somewhere ( I don't know how true it is)...that people will have to get those chips or there will be great punishment...They will set a law stateing that everyone has to have one...pretty messed up if it's true

Well, then you're messed up, because "they" and "you" are one in the same.

All governments are by the people, of the people and for the people. If "they" pass a law requiring implanted chips, it's because "you" told them it was okay, or you gave your tacit consent by doing or saying nothing.

If you inform your senators and congressperson to vote against such a bill, but the vote for it anyway, then of course you will be assisting those in your community to circulate petitions to establish a recall vote, and get those nazis out of there so that the new law can be immediately repealed.

If the recall vote is blocked or rejected or ignored, then you need to urge your governor and state legislators to cecede and immediately call up the national guard to defend your state's borders and for your governor to poll the governor's of other states to identify friends and foes.

If your governor refuses, then you either must flee to another country to live out your days there, join one of the many groups that will be planning coups to take over selected African countries to create a new homeland, join your local resistance group, or stay where you are and prepare to live like an animal.

[Jupiter]

I don't understand the origination of the above post - the opening remark is very hurtful in my opinion, the post speaks of a fantastical political system which is not accurate to the true working of life, at least for USA / Canada or UK.

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Matthew Nagle, a 25-year old paraplegic has been fitted with a computer chip (done) that reads his minds and translates his thoughts into action.

The technology is at an early stage, however the technology is sufficient to allow him to:- open emails, use the TV and control an artificial hand. Scientists says that they hope the technology will one day allow physically disabled people to move their arms and legs. The U.S. development was reported on Wednesday July 12th in 'Nature'. The system is called 'Brain Computer Interface' - using a pill-sized sensor implanted onto the surface of the brain.

When asked to "think right" or "think left" patients were able to change their neural activity immediately. "Patients can control the computer cursor and carry on a conversation at the same time, just as we can simultaneously talk and use our computers." "Ultimately it is hoped the system could be paried with a muscle stimulator device, and so allow paralysed people to move their own limbs again".

The process

1. Implant on surface of the brain:- It contains 100 electrodes thinner than a human hair which pick up neuro-electrical activity.

2. Thin gold wires transmit the activity to titaniumn 'pedestal' on patient's scalp.

3. Cable (coming out of the patient's head) connects to processors which translate the brain activity.

4. Signals can be fed into computer to move cursor, or linked to prosthetic limb to open and close fingers.

[Jupiter]

I once watched a program from a series a few years ago called 'Inventions that Changed The World : Computers' and a man from Oxford has had a chip implanted into him, which enables him to wirelessly control electronic hands exactly as he controls his own hand, it also enabled him to do many other things, at the moment, he says the technology of robots today (2004) is about as clever as bees and wasps, and, as time goes on they will advance, he had the chip inplanted into him so he is ready for the future.

Britannia just noticed your post - Yes it's been done before, however this latest implant is said to be faster & more accurate. Research on monkeys by Krishna Shenoy from Stanford University demonstrated that the system can now communicate information at an equivalent speed to someone typing 15 words a minute. Dr. John Q Gan, of the Brain-Computer Interfaces Research Group at Essex University said it was "dramatic and exciting" that the new sensor was ten times faster than other systems that sit on the scalp to record brainwaves.

Such a development could offer real hope for people like actor Christopher Reeve, who played Superman in the original Warner Bros. films - after he became paralysed following a riding accident. He severed the nerves in his spinal cord in 1995 and he then became a passionate supporter of new scientific developments, such as stem cell therapy, which he hoped would allow him to walk again. He died in 2004 before he was able to see his dream become reality. The "Brain Computer Interface" could have allowed his brain to communicate with his limbs, whether the real ones or prosthetic ones.

By the way, I am against any kind of "brain implant" which modifies or reads thoughts for any other reason other than restoring mobility etc. for those with such a disability. I expect & hope not to be seeing widespread "thought control / thought monitoring" implants for all.

[Ginger_S]

I'm sorry, but the new world order is a complete load of old tosh!
The bloody Muslims will have destroyed us with nuclear weapons before anything remotley close to what you say will happen actually happens (and at the rate we're going, that won't be long.)


Excuse me??? IF the NWO is Tosh as you put it...Why have both the former president Bush and the current president Bush mentioned it in Speeches on more than one occasion???

Tosh??? I think Not...do some research, the NWO has been in planning/implementation stages for Centuries.

Ging...

[Raptor Witness]

The Mark of the Beast has nothing to do with chips or physical marks. Rather, it's what you're instructed to believe in. Sort of like following the crowd, or the bandwagon effect.

If you want to understand what the writer of Revelation was talking about, then WHY DON'T YOU study the "mark" on the Harlot's forehead, for she ALREADY belongs to the False Prophet and the Beast? She already had "The Mark," and what did it say?

Here is wisdom - Understand the "MYSTERY" on the Harlot's forehead, and you will understand the mark placed on mankind's.

The American Christian Church fears the truth. Her shepherds are blind, deaf, and dumb. You already have the MARK!

http://static.flickr.com/47/173001112_647e948888.jpg

HINT - Isaiah 14:3 [King of Babylon] You said in your heart: "I will scale the heavens; Above the stars of God I will set up my throne.

Bush - "President Bush Announces New Vision for Space Exploration Program - January 14, 2004 [Link to entire speech] (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/01/20040114-3.html)

"Today I announce a new plan to explore space and extend a human presence across our solar system. "

Revelation 13:3 ... "and the whole earth MARVELED at the beast."

What do you think they "MARVELED" about? Blind guides!

http://static.flickr.com/114/255845349_fe09c316a7_o.jpg

Revelation 13:13 - He performs great signs, even making fire come down out of the sky to the earth in the sight of people.

What are you waiting for? Here's your KEY indicator. Worthless blind shepherds!

http://static.flickr.com/76/193825280_b2be05e44f_o.jpg Nagasaki - August 9, 1945

[Jupiter]

I don't agree with Raptor Witness' post, I think you're reading far too much into ancient texts, and I see no problem with space exploration. I like the pictures though!

[Ginger_S]

I don't agree with Raptor Witness' post, I think you're reading far too much into ancient texts, and I see no problem with space exploration. I like the pictures though!


:Llol: Couldn't help myself...that last line really got me Jupiter :Llol:

[lycanox]

I don't know about this. What will happen if the chip gets infected with an computer virus.

Somehow the Borg comes to mind (http://www.exitmundi.nl/borg.htm)

[Ginger_S]

I don't know about this. What will happen if the chip gets infected with an computer virus.

Somehow the Borg comes to mind (http://www.exitmundi.nl/borg.htm)

Interesting thought Lycanox, with as many electronic scanning gadgets we have now-a-days there is no reason why some nut job couldn't invent a virus that is delivered via a simple scanner, say for instance Walmart front door scanners...or any other store for that matter. Think of all the people that would be infected in a single day around the US let alone the globe, Especially if the virus was rigged to propagate when an infected one passed through another scanner, Boom another infection source.

[Tortoise]

The implants will be used when the NWO comes to power. It will be required. You wont be able to buy things without it. It is their way of tracking and controlling you.....My own hunch is that no adult will be forced to accept wearing a microchip. The transition will be much more subtle. Newborns will be implanted with chips, just as they are now routinely given social security numbers.

[Jupiter]

Interesting thought Lycanox, with as many electronic scanning gadgets we have now-a-days there is no reason why some nut job couldn't invent a virus that is delivered via a simple scanner, say for instance Walmart front door scanners...or any other store for that matter. Think of all the people that would be infected in a single day around the US let alone the globe, Especially if the virus was rigged to propagate when an infected one passed through another scanner, Boom another infection source.

I am very much against such hypothetical chips (except chips that aid mobility etc. for the disabled as previously discussed in this thread). On the subject of viruses, if such a chip was a closed circuit eg. with a relatively simple processor & program stored on ROM, then the issue of viruses would probably not arise. As soon as you have connection to some kind of central data server or mainframe, then it would very much be a worry.

[kaosbudbud]

their going to have to castrate me with a spoon before they get a chip inside me :yummm:

[Jupiter]

Recently (within the last 4 weeks), it was discovered and reported in the UK papers, that local regional councils were installing microchips into people's outside dustbins (very small ones, without telling the homeowners). Apparently they can weigh the amount of rubbish - however people fear that councils will try to charge householders if they put too much rubbish in. I do not understand how the Government can do things like this without consultation to householders. Apparently a lot of people are finding such chips and removing them (eg with a screwdriver) and sending them back to the councils. No one likes them, nor the new recycling regulations in the UK, which are very pedantic - involving separating separate items for recycling into separate categories - this must take hours so I'm not surpised there has been a certain amount of uproar in Britain about it.

[Einstein700]

i think this technology is inevitable now one way or another some people actually demand it so I don't know why it surprises you and there isn't much you can do to stop it.

[witte]

reply to raptor witness' post:
What are you waiting for? Here's your KEY indicator. Worthless blind shepherds!

You call yourself a christian yet you say that? Instead you could have explained to others what you mean by that sentence. Calling others in this thread "worthless shepherds" sounds to me like you may be one yourself. :ban:

[Xreal]

Americans would love getting a chip, then they wouldnt need to go up for getting mcdonalds or bible reading. They could think about mcdonalds and they will show up. And have the bible inplanted in the chip.

[Smoke]

Americans would love getting a chip, then they wouldnt need to go up for getting mcdonalds or bible reading. They could think about mcdonalds and they will show up. And have the bible inplanted in the chip.

lol that was kind of funny.........................

[lady-t]

government mandated implementation of the chip is not beyond the realm of possibility. right now in texas the governor has REQUIRED all teenage girls get the guardia vaccine. now, it is my understanding that the vaccine is safe and effective, but, remember the immunizations that were distributed for free in ( i think south america) that caused mass miscarriages? population control is what it was about. not immunizing against a disease.

also, if it becomes required and you don't comply you had better never need surgery or doctor services from then on out. it could ostensibly be used to control travel, purchases, sales, medical attention, old age benefits etc etc etc etc

i personally don't think it will happen, the public would raise a huge bitch over it and the people mandating it would be voted out of office on the next election. i can see it now-' my platform for running for mayor' "no implants are required"

i personally see it as an infringement on my freedoms that i enjoy. however there is a lot of medical fraud going on and tracking the people who are committing this fraud is almost nonexistent. as well as insurance fraud and the like.

who knows?

[Jupiter]

In this week's edition of The NewScientist magazine I found an article called the "Man with a Silicon Brain". Kwabena Boahen has created a device which emulates the neural nets used in visual image processing. The inventor speaks of "neuromorphic" implants to "boost the brainpower of healthy people" or acting as "neural prostheses" for people whose brains have been damaged by injury or disease.

Kwabena Boahen's prototype chips use a different form of transistor technology. Transistors can operate in two phases. In the first phase, the operating voltage above a certain threshold switches the transistor on or off. In the second phase, at lower voltages, the transistor acts like an amplifier and produces a magnified output current proportional to the input voltage.

Kwabena Boahen says "As long as the input signals arrived within a few milliseconds of each other, the circuit of transistors would sum the input values, and if tipped over a certain threshold, would produce an output spike. It's totally foreign to the way we've built computers for the last 40 years".

Boahen's latest chip has 8000 "neurons" on 10 square millimetres of silicon. When the artificial retina sees a circle or some other shape, the neuromorphic chip picks out its edges just like the real visual cortex does.

The research and development of this particular project is in an early stage.

Like others, I think caution and restraint may need to be exercised on this technology.

[Perfectionist]

People used to say Radio/Television was gonna destroy civilization as we know it ..... even telephones were despised when they were invented ......

It's all part of the (un)natural process of evolution ..... get used to it or get out of the way !!