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Jul 13th, 2005, 8:28 PM
Completely ridiculous for B16 to be slamming Potter books...truly offensive only because nothing has been done to eliminate the possibily of sexual abuse to continue within the church....sadly, Potter never molested anyone...maybe if he did the Church would have ignored the books??
All the news unfit to print
Jul 14th, 2005, 10:12 AM
This is why I don't take my children to church! I read them the bible at home and I teach them what comes straight from the bible....I never had to endure these things personally but I know those who have and let me tell you it RUINS peoples faith in God. That should be the ultimate sin!!!
Jul 18th, 2005, 9:08 PM
Nothing ruined my faith in the Creator but it sure did make me run as fast as I could from organized religion.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Harry Potter books. The people blasting them are control freaks who fear children usurping their alleged "authority". The books are nothing more than whimsical flights of fantasy with some morals thrown in.
I still cant believe that these raging lunatics can condemn something that has vastly increased childrens interests in reading. Instead of grasping a teachable moment and using it to introduce their comparative biblical texts with something similar in the books (Voldemort = Satan for example), they trash something that has grasped their childrens intrest and made it "bad".
Jul 19th, 2005, 1:19 AM
I just finished the half-blood prince, the one released on friday... which they wish that the bible had that much sales...
Anyway, I don't suppose they have actually read the books...
Jul 19th, 2005, 2:40 AM
Reading them would be too easy and then they would be committing a terrible sin! OH MY! Its just like people protesting movies and not even seeing them. It is kind of a catch-22 though. They spend the money and maybe find out that its something they wouldnt support. Im kind of going through that while awaiting Pirates of the Carribean 2.
What did you think of Half Blood Prince? I got myself trained to wait for the movies before I read the books so I dont get dissappointed.
Jul 19th, 2005, 2:49 AM
I can see why religous people(And i mean Catholics, Christian.......etc) dont like Potter. It has Sorcerey which is considered demonic and evil.
But you know what your not going to go to hell for reading it! Guess what ive seen the Harry Potter movies! :GASP: Big deal! People need to loosen up, it doesnt say you are going to go to hell if you look at it but just dont get into it... as in you start practicing witchcraft! (Assuming it existed).
BTW please no stupid comments on my religion. Im just making a point.
Jul 19th, 2005, 7:00 AM
Rhoald Dhal :amaz:
Now there was a guy who really could write childrens books.
Jul 19th, 2005, 1:13 PM
before[/I] I read the books so I dont get dissappointed.
It's great! It's my second favorite after the 3rd book.
But you should read all of the previous ones before reading half blood prince.
Jul 21st, 2005, 8:15 PM
Oh yeah, Ive been reading them after I see the movies so it will take me years to read them all. LOL
Jul 21st, 2005, 8:58 PM
BTW please no stupid comments on my religion. Im just making a point. Ah cmon! You just took all the fun out of it!
Jul 23rd, 2005, 10:53 AM
Its just stupid to bash any novel, since every single one of them are fiction. And the reader knows it is fiction, darnit! Benedict act as if he really will get any support from the casual human being. Good luck have fun, Benidict.
Jul 23rd, 2005, 11:55 AM
Actually you want to know something thats really confusing?
Christians dont like Harry Potter yet they/we all like LOTR because Tolkien originaly made it with a "Religous" meaning to it. Yet its still has demononic and evil things in it just like Potter.
Some christian tried telling me Potter is just "Evil vs Evil and they are both using witchcraft nonthe less. LOTR is Good Vs Evil.".
Whatever. Lol. Ive seen all the LOTRS and ive seen all the Harry Potters and read the books and i dont care. Religous peopole need to be more open minded like me and realize your NOT GOING TO HELL if you read Harry Potter.
Jul 23rd, 2005, 1:29 PM
Not all novels are purely fiction, and you'd be surprised at what meaning people derive...look at The Da Vinci Code...
I'm not sure what a "casual" human being is, but he does have a lot of support from the crazy christian people who view the book as glorifying sorcery and witchcraft.
Christians all like LOTR because it has a supposid religious meaning? (He was a christian but what's the religious meaning? Good vs. Evil isn't an exclusive religious theme...)
Here I thought they would of liked it because it was a good fantasy flick like I did...
Religous peopole need to be more open minded like me and realize your NOT GOING TO HELL if you read Harry Potter.
I don't think they're afraid of going to hell if they read it, but it's more of the issue of their children or whoever being exposed/corrupted by the lifestyles portrayed in the book. Anything that goes against the "wholesome", plainess of their lifestyle is bad in their eyes. That's why these christian censor groups go all rampant on movies, television shows, music, etc. In return they come up with their own alternate media to provide...which leads to $$$ in their pockets. Hmmm..perhaps we're onto a conspiracy...
Jul 23rd, 2005, 2:15 PM
Not all novels are purely fiction, and you'd be surprised at what meaning people derive...look at The Da Vinci Code... DarkAce, what I meant was that there is always, always a bit in a novel that is fiction. And even though the Potter books does include witchcraft, then what difference does it make? Are the christians angry when they realise that there glorifying Bible have been beaten by an Ikea catalog, and have to put this aggression somewhere?
Jul 23rd, 2005, 2:26 PM
There are MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of Harry Potter fans out there and most of them are RABID fans. Why the Church insists on alienating people by taking such a useless and unnecessary stance against such an icon of popular culture is beyond me. The church-going population is gradually diminishing and it seems like the Church Itself is doing whatever it can to help drive people away by denouncing harmless non-issues like Harry Potter...
Jul 23rd, 2005, 3:00 PM
And even though the Potter books does include witchcraft, then what difference does it make?
I can answer that with this:
There are MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of Harry Potter fans out there and most of them are RABID fans.
Get it? Millions upon millions of people, increasingly a large portion being more and more children with the release of the movies are loving something that supposidly glorifies witchcraft. (Sorcery being portrayed as something evil and wicked by the strict (nutty) christians.)
Church Itself is doing whatever it can to help drive people away by denouncing harmless non-issues like Harry Potter...
I guess they need breathers inbetween harmless non-issues like same-sex marriage and marijuanna use...
Jul 23rd, 2005, 3:12 PM
Is that why? What kind of a stupid logic are they using? Are Narnia evil to? And all fantasy books? Man, they are even nuttier then I thought.
Jul 24th, 2005, 7:12 AM
****A PUBLIC APOLOGY TO ALL AO FOLKS - I was away for a few days and my roomate's coked-out boyfriend/leech decided he was going to have some fun on my comp. I am posting this disclaimer over all the 'Imposter' posts made in my name. I hold myself responsible for this error and I wish to APOLOGIZE ABJECTLY to any and all who were offended by these posts****
as for the questions about the Church, remember the Auto Da Fe, the Salem Witch Trials, the Crusades, the Defenestration of Cracow, book burnings, and so on.
You are all speaking of this as if the Church was a Rationally based authority structure acting Irrationally all of a sudden. The Church has NEVER been about rationality, only Belief and Faith and Fear.
Narnia was considered an 'unclean influence' by certain rabidly devout Christians back in its day, as was LOTR, and other examples of sedition like Mary Poppins, the works of Jules Verne, anything written by Oscar Wilde and so forth (and let's not even begin to talk about the whole Darwin thing).
For as long as I've been alive the Church has represented narrow-minded reactionaries who haven't a clue what they're protesting, only that they don't like it (which is why there are more Protestants than Catholics in North America). But never question them, for questions indicate a lackof faith, and that is indicative of demonic possession, which is indicative of...
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