Did You Know? New Info

[Protostar]

Everytime I am researching something, I find new info. It seems that things are heating up everywhere.

Did you know that tornadoes have been spotted, for the first time in history, that are spinning the wrong way? (what the hell?)

Did you know that there are places in Mexico where the ground temperature is heating up in excess of 200 degrees? (I knew washington state had hot spots like that as well as california)

Did you know that during a seven day period in early June there were 772 earthquakes recorded on the California - Nevada border near Mammoth Lake? (Gordon Michael Scallion and others are predicting a volcanic eruption there this summer.) no shit! New Madrid anyone?

Did you know that on May 31st, the jet stream (an extremely fast wind current that flows through the upper atmosphere) touched ground for the first time in recorded history?

Did you know that all over North America, migratory birds have stopped returning to their nesting grounds? And that salmon are no longer returning to their spawning grounds? And indigenous tribes throughout the world have stopped having children?

*Looks like Operation ophelia is real. still cant find info on that one though*

[Sammy56]

Did you know that tornadoes have been spotted, for the first time in history, that are spinning the wrong way? (what the hell?)
I'm not so sure about this one. I live in the tornado capital of the world, so I do know a little bit about them. Most tornados spin counter-clockwise here, but occasionally, we got one that would spin clockwise. They don't happen often, but I know it has happened a lot more then once. Here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornado#Tornado_characteristics) they talk about the spin of tornadoes and how it depends on their location. It's under Tornado Formation, third paragraph down. next to it They also have a cool picture of the hook echo of the most powerful tornado ever recorded and you can see my home town in the picture and in the caption. Sorry, it made me laugh. :DA Some of the others do look like they would be interesting to research though.

[Marajadex]

Thanks for the info Sammy. It is good to hear from someone in the thick of it. I had heard that while rare that tornados spinning clockwise is nothing that unusual. The tornado FAQ page is really very informtive as well as interesting.
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/faq/tornado/#The%20Basics

You mentioned your town had been hit by a tornado... Have you been thru a tornado... Probably a stupid question. What is it like? Once in a great while we get a funnel cloud here in the northwest.

[Sammy56]

Well, my house itself has never actually been hit by a tornado, luckily, but I know many peoples whose has. Ever since I moved here in '97 we have probably had 7 tornadoes hit town, two of them really serious. The first serious one was May 3rd, 1999 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Oklahoma_Tornado_Outbreak). You say that date anywhere around here and people know exactly what you are talking about. Was rated as an F5, but many said they should of expand the scale to F6 because this one was so strong. It was the strongest in recorded history, actually. The second was May 8th, 2003. That was only an F4, but it took almost the exact same path as the first. Now, that one I did actually see with my own eyes while standing outside. Both of them were only a mile away, so I could hear them well. It's hard to describe. I guess the best analogy would be a jet plane taking off. Hopefully I will get lucky and get out of this state before the next big one.

[Marajadex]

I can imagin what that sounds like... working around airplanes. I am glad you have been spared the devistation of being in the tornados path. It must be surreal to stand there in the face of such a powerfull force. Thanks for sharing the info... :2thumbs:

[CrystalSword]

The first serious one was May 3rd, 1999. You say that date anywhere around here and people know exactly what you are talking about. Was rated as an F5, but many said they should of expand the scale to F6 because this one was so strong. It was the strongest in recorded history, actually. The second was May 8th, 2003. That was only an F4, but it took almost the exact same path as the first.
Wow! I heard about those two tornadoes near Oklahoma City! The F5 May 3rd tornado: The most powerful tornado recorded in history, wind speed of 318 mph! And I don't know if it was because of this tornado, but the Fujita Scale has been expanded to include F6 tornadoes. To qualify, winds must be 319-379 mph.

Good site about it here: http://www.tornadoproject.com/fscale/fscale.htm

I also heard about another destructive tornado taking an almost exact copy of that path a few years later. That must be the one! And nice post about anticyclonic tornadoes, by the way. It's the truth: Rare, but HAVE been seen before. (Actually, I think the first tornado ever caught on film was an anticyclonic...)


Did you know that on May 31st, the jet stream (an extremely fast wind current that flows through the upper atmosphere) touched ground for the first time in recorded history?
The jet stream? Touch the ground? I hate to say this, but the guy who recorded that fact was on something when he wrote it. The jet stream can't touch the ground; it's seperating air masses. Also, the core winds in the jet stream can reach almost 200 mph. I think there would be more media coverage of a thousand mile wide damage swath on the ground.

[stewey]

My tornado experience pales in comparison with Sammy (he lives in OK, tornado capital of the USA). However, I study geography/weather as a hobby (as well as in classes at school, as part of LS requirement) and I live in Wisconsin (quite a few tornados too). Other day we had something like 17 tornados across the state, had a funnel cloud over my house too. Scary crap. Yes, tornados can spin the "wrong way".

As for the other claims, I would like a source please!

[CrystalSword]

Yeah Stewey, we did have that outbreak back in August. Second largest outbreak in the country this year, I believe, and killed a person. Don't know the final number of tornadoes, though.

And I don't think there is a source for those claims, they seem like total crap to me.

[Protostar]

Hopi elders had a conference and decreed things that are not publicized.
The DID YOU KNOW text came from a snippet from that conversation found
on therumormillnews.com website,
now, check out the predictions from gms (incidently or not today the sun
is having a MEGAFLARE blowout: read below

Futurist and prophetic visionary, Gordon-Michael Scallion (matrixinstitute <http://www.matrixinstitute.com/index1.html>) returned to C2C as the main guest on Tuesday night, sharing his intuitions and predictions. Here is a rundown of some of what he sees in store:

Eventually, the US will lose 1/3 of its land mass, though an equal amount of new land will rise.

A powerful sun flare within the next year will cause a global blackout.

Yellowstone is heating up, and there will be breaks in the land in that area within a matter of months.

ET disclosure is moving forward, and within the next couple of years there will be confirmation.

The next terrorist attack in the US will be "electronic" in nature and could affect banking and computers. (news releases yesterday CONFIRMED that the government is searching for a SUPER HACKER who has terrorist ties) So far some predictions are true.
(EMP'S? That is MY FEAR)

proto

[Sammy56]

Wow! I heard about those two tornadoes near Oklahoma City! The F5 May 3rd tornado: The most powerful tornado recorded in history, wind speed of 318 mph!
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I also heard about another destructive tornado taking an almost exact copy of that path a few years later. That must be the one!
Yep, those are the ones. They both crossed I-35 at the exact same spot about a mile from my house. They are just about to finish rebuilding the hotels and restaurant destroyed by the second tornado. Things will never be normal in that part of town. Every time you look at the trees you are reminded of the damage, but it will be nice for things there to start to get back to the way they used to be.

[Protostar]

Did you know that the longest mountain range on earth is the mid ocean ridges?
That Japan sits on 4 tectonic plates? (ruh roh)
That the earth is a accumulation of astroids and meteorites?
That a mini planet hit the earth and "dug out" the ocean floor then spun out to orbit to become our moon?
That the earth core sepearated from its shell? (huh?) we need more information...
http//www. earthchangestv.com

[dreamwhiz]

Just a quick note on the tornadoes, this summer we had a record number in Wisconsin for one day and one month. We also had one hell of a derecho too. I remember watching the situation on that fateful day in 99. That was not pretty.

[CrystalSword]

We also had one hell of a derecho too.
We sure did. The worst part of the derecho passed only a couple of miles north of my house. The tree and power line damage was incredible.

And Proto, as far as your "New new info" is concerned, it's much more accurate than your "Old new info." Unfortunately, this isn't saying much. I think that those first 2 claims are true, but the rest? I wouldn't bet on it.

[stewey]

Did you know that the longest mountain range on earth is the mid ocean ridges?
That Japan sits on 4 tectonic plates? (ruh roh)


I believe these to be true, but I am not 100% certain.



That the earth is a accumulation of astroids and meteorites?


No. Unless you mean it is made of the same basic materials, then yes, but it is not just an accumlation of them.



That a mini planet hit the earth and "dug out" the ocean floor then spun out to orbit to become our moon?


Sort of. The mini planet hit the earth and broke off a chunk to become the moon, but it had nothing to do with creating the oceans.



That the earth core sepearated from its shell? (huh?) we need more information...
http//www. earthchangestv.com

This is true I believe, but not so much separated, as is spinning at different speeds.

[Protostar]

do u have info on that core speed data? please share!
All I can find is info on core temp rising but no info as to why (probably convection currents) is a theory or probability. Need more info if you can find it.

[stewey]

do u have info on that core speed data? please share!
All I can find is info on core temp rising but no info as to why (probably convection currents) is a theory or probability. Need more info if you can find it.

I read it somewhere, but forgot where :(

[bass]

Protostar
Here is a link on the different velocity of the inner (solid) core
http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/news/2005/08_30_05b.htm

[Protostar]

did you know that the last ice age started in 1300 and lasted 500 years?
(really, known as the little ice age)

There are FLYING CARS. (Moeller skycar) google it if you dont believe me.
for sale at Neiman Marcus via their Catalogue!

The mayan civilization starved to death because of "unfirtile" soil.

There is a sunspot on the sun today AS BIG AS JUPITER

[Sammy56]

did you know that the last ice age started in 1300 and lasted 500 years?
They had something on the History Channel about this yesterday that I watched. It was really interesting. They talked about how in this "little ice age" the average temperature feel 3-4 degrees Celsius and how this seemingly small change helped to bring about events such as the Black Plague, the French Revolution, and the dying off of the Vikings.


There is a sunspot on the sun today AS BIG AS JUPITER
Well, why sunspots usually do not get this big, it doesn't seem to be a rare occurrence. I did a search on "sunspot as large as Jupiter" and got many pictures from different dates.

[nigeyboy]

Sort of. The mini planet hit the earth and broke off a chunk to become the moon, but it had nothing to do with creating the oceans.

As an addition to Stewey's note:

The mini planet was the size of Mars and hit the Earth a glancing blow. It shattered the mini planet, and totally melted the crust of Earth. The fragments of the mini planet obited the earth, and for a short time we may have had a ring system like Saturn! These fragments coalesed to form the 'proto-moon'. At that time it orbited the Earth at a much closer distance (c.15,000 miles - please correct me if I am wrong on this!). The tides it influenced on the planet must have been devestating!

Since then, the moon has been slowly but surely moving away from the planet, as it still is to this day - by approx 2 metres each year. In a few million years the moon will be too far away for us to witness 'total' solar eclipses. We will see only annular ones!

[nrj]

... and the dying off of the Vikings. Ok, this is BS!

First of all, the Vikings "died out" during the 1000s.

Second, the Vikings didn't die out, but we became christians when King Harald was baptised and the culture completely changed.

Trust me, I know my own people's history.

[Protostar]

Tut tut NRJ the Vikings did die off there however, like the mayans, SOME left and hey, the Vikings went to Sweden? cool. ( I don't know my people's history) That explains alot though, I may not live in Sweden but I am a Swede. So, tell us more about the Vikings(in Sweden) if you have info. Thx.

[nrj]

Well, the vikings were on Norway, Denmark and Sweden altogether and were divided into tribes.

But the "high tribe" was in Denmark, with King Harald Blåtand as the ruler.

The tribes warred against eachother and with eachother, but they all payed great respect to Blåtand.

Any ways, when Blåtand was baptised and the asa tru religion was considered a lie, the asa tru religion started to die out. More and more tribes became christian, and in the 12:th century Denmark and Sweden started to become real nations.

In the swedish history books, the Viking age ends on the 11:th century. Harald Blåtand was baptised in the late 10:th though, but the real change occured relatively slow.

Actually, the swedes decended from Vikings is a very small minority. There are more who decend from wallon immigrants, but personally I decend from a viking clan.

If you have a last name with "son" in the end, there's a very high chance of you being a wallon.

[CrystalSword]

There is a sunspot on the sun today AS BIG AS JUPITER
Yep, Sunspot 822. It's decaying now after spewing many M-class solar flares. It's also now shrunk to the diameter of Neptune. Still pretty big if you ask me.

[Sammy56]

Originally Posted by nrj
Ok, this is BS! Please do not jump down my throat for this. I just said I saw it on the History Channel, not that I believed it. Hell, I rarely watch T.V. let alone believe what I hear on it. I also wasn't very clear on what I said. They talked about how the Viking colonies on Greenland died off because there was no food for their livestock, not the entire civilization. I did some more research on it and found this-

"The severe winters affected human life in ways large and small. The population of Iceland fell by half, and the Viking colonies in Greenland died out. In North America, American Indians formed leagues in response to food shortages"

Full article here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age)

I really have no idea if this is true or not. The only thing I know for sure about the Vikings is what I was taught in my Oklahoma History class last year. Something about how it is possible they made it all the way to eastern Oklahoma long before Columbus made it to San Salvador. Obviously you are going to know a ton more then me on the subject so what is your opinion on this?

[Defiant Noquisi]

Hopi elders had a conference and decreed things that are not publicized. The DID YOU KNOW text came from a snippet from that conversation found on therumormillnews.com website, Protostar, do you have more information on who exactly these "elders" are? I'm just curious because with all that has gone on regarding Indian Country, Hopi "prophecy" and wannabes, most likely that information is not from an actual Elder.

[Defiant Noquisi]

It's hard to describe. I guess the best analogy would be a jet plane taking off. I totally agree with that description as well as the one where it sounds like a freight train at full throttle. I got to experience the outbreak in the early 90's that started in Wisconsin and then went southward. I was in Indianapolis at the time. It was so dark and raining so hard that we couldn't see that the tornado was just outside of the "loop" (I465) from where we were. A bunch of us watched the transformer blow at the other end of the yard, not knowing it was getting hit by the tornado at the time. I never slept that night and have been paranoid ever since of tornados and lightning.

[nrj]

"The severe winters affected human life in ways large and small. The population of Iceland fell by half, and the Viking colonies in Greenland died out. In North America, American Indians formed leagues in response to food shortages" This is of course correct, but I thought you meant the entire Viking-population.

Sorry for the snapping at you! It was just a misunderstanding!

Something about how it is possible they made it all the way to eastern Oklahoma long before Columbus made it to San Salvador. Obviously you are going to know a ton more then me on the subject so what is your opinion on this?Yep, Leif Eriksson made it to the New World and called it "Vinland". He was fought off by native americans though, and his discovery became yesterdays news very fast so no-one remembered it.

But it still remains as a good example of the Vikings navigation techniques without compasses, and also remains as an example of their strong boats. Crossing the Atlantic twice is not really a piece of cake...

[Protostar]

Did you know:
The Great Pyramid of Giza lies in the center of gravity of the continents?
That that it also lies in the exact center of all the land area of the world, dividing the earth's land mass into approximately equal quarters?
That the north-south axis is longest land meridian, and the east-west axis is the longest land parallel on the globe?

[Defiant Noquisi]

Protostar, do you have more information on who exactly these "elders" are? I'm just curious because with all that has gone on regarding Indian Country, Hopi "prophecy" and wannabes, most likely that information is not from an actual Elder. Just wonderin'.

[Protostar]

Hi Defiant, I tried to go back to rumermillnews.com and re-set parimeters to find the post where I got that page and I can't go back that far. Shoot, but I do remember that it was either on coasttocoast and also earthchangestv.com that the interview had taken place. It was in the beginning of september,05
re:
Hopi elders had a conference and decreed things that are not publicized.
The DID YOU KNOW text came from a snippet from that conversation found
on therumormillnews.com website,

[Defiant Noquisi]

Ah, being that it was on Coast to Coast I can damn near guarentee that the information on that show wasn't exactly accurate. Regarding whatever Indian they may have on the show anyway, Hopi or otherwise.

[Protostar]

Did you know that December 2005 has 2 full moons and the 2nd being the famous "blue moon"?

that the world rotates west to east?

AMERICAN TSUNAMI is broadcast at 9pm Eastern Time on Discovery channel?
(the commercial looked cool) DECEMBER 18 (SUNDAY)

[Protostar]

Did you know that Time is a function of oscillation of matter?
That Time, in space has no meaning?
The planets poles and it's orbit are determined by its electromagnetic charge?
(get info from http://www.world-mysteries.com/sci_2html)
Read article and you'll learn that because of a new electromagnetic field and change of electromagnetic field (matter phases) the EARTH CAN CHANGE COSMIC LOCATION, which ushers us into ANOTHER DIMENSION! (links to research)
Did you know that Planets release energy through volcanic eruptions? (see theboomshelter.com for article on thermal mega plumbe found on ocean floor!)
That strange objects found in space? see www.etheric.com/GalacticCenter/Galactic.html for a possible explination
That when they found the Giant Mammouth in Siberia, it had plants and flowers undigested in its belly BEFORE it was "flash frozen in an instant"
(Since when did Siberia have plants and flowers? ,its a frozen wasteland)
The poles shifted and the mammouth was in Siberia but it was SUBTROPICAL there due to "pole shift" hmm.

[nrj]

Did you know that Time is a function of oscillation of matter? This is a theory, though. You can find more about that here. (http://www.prahlad.org/pub/bearden/scalar_wars.htm)

[Virgo]

ORT: Original Topic Reply

Oh my lord, we're all going to die! ...what? We're not? Oh...sorry ^^'

Point: Conspiracys are poppycock.

[Protostar]

No conspiracy here, just the facts ma'am.
check out the site and the links, u will be amazed (if this interests you that is)
its cool to check out what other sites like that scalar site above but, you gotta read and re-read the scientific papers to get the correct information.
Vevlosky is the man, and his papers are awesome. He knows what he knows
and I'll take a guy who writes doctorates on his material before I take the gardian or rense.com at their word.

[Defiant Noquisi]

No conspiracy here, just the facts ma'am. If that was to Virgo, you might want to rethink what sex he is. Just sayin' ;)

[Protostar]

Conspiracy Theorys are not there to refute but to debate.
Virgo one of the hahah, "nut owners"? haha.