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jeffweeder
Jan 10th, 2006, 2:23 AM
near the beginning of the old testament it is stated that the hebrew nation was being founded for the purpose of blessing the nations. Then there begins to loom the figure of one person,through who the nation will accomplish this mission. 1st he is called shiloh, to arise in the tribe of judah, and rule the nations. Then he is called star, who will have dominion. and a prophet like unto moses, through whom GOD will SPEAK to mankind. And then over and over and over agian he is spoken of as a king, to arise in davids family, to be called the branch, The prince, the annionted one, Gods 1st born, wonderful, mighty god , everlasting father, PRICE OF PEACE . The exact time of his coming was foretold. He was to be born of a virgin,at bethlehem. Part of his childhood was to be spent in egypt and he would be bought up in nazareth. He would be introduced to his nation by an elijah like forerunner. Galillee was to be the scene of his ministry. He would work miracles of healing and speak in PARABLES. to be rejected by the leaders of his own nation. Be a smitten shepherd, a sufferer, a man of sorrows. He would enter jerusalem riding on a colt. He would be betrayed by a friend, for 30 pieces of silver, the 30 peices being spent on a potters field. He would be led as a lamb to the slaughter. He would die with the wicked, opening a fountian for sin,He would be given gall and vinegar in his AGONY. His hands and feet would be pierced. Not a bone in his body would be broken. Lots were to be cast for his garments. He would have a rich mans grave,and ascend to gods right hand. This PRE-WRITTEN story of jesus, recorded centuries before jesus came, is so astonishing in detail, that it reads like a eyewitness account of his life and work. soppose a number of men from diff countries who have never met, nor in anyway communicated, would walk into a room , and each had a piece of carved marble, when fitted together, would make a perfect statue. HOW would you account for it in any other way than that some one person had drawn the specifications, and had sent to each man his part.? And how can this amazing composite of jesus life and work , put together by different writers of different centuries, ages before jesus came to this earth, be explained any other way than that one superhuman mind supervised the writing? THE MIRACLE OF THE AGES.

Beatnik Bob
Jan 10th, 2006, 5:22 PM
PRICE OF PEACE
BWAHAHAHAHAHA! :sardonic:

By the way, it never talks about that in the Torah.
And never to the detail that you describe.

jeffweeder
Jan 10th, 2006, 5:58 PM
then you are blind bb, open thine eyes and you will see it. i sometimes make spelling errors on purpose, anyway who cares...prince of peace. there is dat better

Beatnik Bob
Jan 10th, 2006, 6:13 PM
then you are blind bb, open thine eyes and you will see it. Well, if that's how you're going to act then...open YOUR eyes.

But seriously, at leaste give me a quote from the Torah that says what you have stated. If it gives so many hints to Jesus, then surely you can find this information, and share it with me/us.


i sometimes make spelling errors on purpose, anyway who cares. I wish you wouldn't. It's hard to debate someone when their posts are illegible.

jeffweeder
Jan 10th, 2006, 7:53 PM
ok bb ill do my best,and i dont mean to offend you. here are some scripture refs,...psalm 22:in particular verses ,7,8,16,18 ...ps 69:21 ,...micah 5:2-5,...zech 3:8, 9:9, 11:12-13, 12:10 mal 3:1 , 4:5, dan 9:24-27 ,Isiah 7:13-14, 9:1,2,6,7. 11:1-10, 42:1-11, 53. Do you agree that torah foretells ,that the hebrew nation will bring forth a king,who will sit on davids throne,and bless all nations.

Ezekiel |
Jan 10th, 2006, 8:31 PM
ok bb ill do my best,and i dont mean to offend you. here are some scripture refs,...psalm 22:in particular verses ,7,8,16,18 ...ps 69:21 ,...micah 5:2-5,...zech 3:8, 9:9, 11:12-13, 12:10 mal 3:1 , 4:5, dan 9:24-27 ,Isiah 7:13-14, 9:1,2,6,7. 11:1-10, 42:1-11, 53. Do you agree that torah foretells ,that the hebrew nation will bring forth a king,who will sit on davids throne,and bless all nations.

Btw, some more from the Torah saying what the Messiah would do: Genesis 1:26, 3:15, 12:3, 49,10... Isaiah 9:6-7, 7:14, 53:3, 53:7, 50:6, 53:5, 53:12, 53:9... Psalm 2:7, 35:11, 35:19, 69:21, 22:18, 34:20, 68:18... (chick.com)

Who else in the human history has fullfilled these Scriptures besides Jesus? No one. Jesus is the Messiah, and he will come again soon and reveal that fact to His chosen people - the Jewish people.

-Ezekiel