freemasonry, the forbidden city, jesus.

[uki]

an interesting forum... please take the time to read all the pages for the posts by frank loo. i stumbled upon it and wish to share it here.

http://wongkiewkit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4505 :jap:

[Raptor Witness]

The more I read this fictional crap about the Cup of Jesus, the more angry I become. If indeed the freemasons perpetuate this holy grail garbage, it just proves how lost and foolish they are.

No one who knows Jesus in his heart would believe these lies, because WE know that the power of Jesus Christ is in His name, which you'll note G.W. NEVER uses. He'll say "Christ" or "God", but never Jesus. Why? Because he can't without penalty.

If there was ever anything for Christians to become obsessed about, it should be using the name of Jesus for EVERY good thing they do. Why, because this is how you show love for Him? The power is in the NAME!!!

People who worship objects like holy cups, or holy grails or any kind of supposedly "POWERFUL" objects are practicing idolatry.

That's partly why, when George Washington sacrificed upon the cornerstone of the White House, he proved his ignorance with respect to God's laws and ways. Worse, he did it to the people's house, condemning them. :52:

Satan is about to be defeated on this earth, and he knows his time is short. I suggest, rather than running after "holy grail" stories, the readers here start praying to the One person who can give you some peace of mind if they're falling off of a ten story building, or drowning alone in the heart of the sea.

[Freakshow]

That's partly why, when George Washington sacrificed upon the cornerstone of the White House, he proved his ignorance with respect to God's laws and ways. Worse, he did it to the people's house, condemning them.

I'm confused. What do you mean by that Raptor?

[Raptor Witness]

I can't find a specific reference handily, but here's a lead to what I'm talking about. When the cornerstone of the White House was laid, George Washington performed sacrifice to a pagan diety. [Link] (http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/gw_as_a_freemason_litho.htm)

The ceremony was similar to how the first President is depicted here, generally. This is what he would have worn, in other words.

http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/images/gw_litho_by_strobridge_1867_1.jpg

[Raptor Witness]

Here's another photograph of a painting of the actual ceremony, or a remake. I'm still having trouble finding details of the actual ceremony itself, which I saw on the History channel recently. [Link to painting] (http://www.whitehousechristmasornament.com/1994_MV_Washington_Ornament.html)

http://www.whitehousechristmasornament.com/image/1994_GWashington_Laying_Capitol_WLG.jpg

[Wastelandwarrior]

The more I read this fictional crap about the Cup of Jesus, the more angry I become. If indeed the freemasons perpetuate this holy grail garbage, it just proves how lost and foolish they are.

No one who knows Jesus in his heart would believe these lies, because WE know that the power of Jesus Christ is in His name, which you'll note G.W. NEVER uses. He'll say "Christ" or "God", but never Jesus. Why? Because he can't without penalty.

If there was ever anything for Christians to become obsessed about, it should be using the name of Jesus for EVERY good thing they do. Why, because this is how you show love for Him? The power is in the NAME!!!

People who worship objects like holy cups, or holy grails or any kind of supposedly "POWERFUL" objects are practicing idolatry.

That's partly why, when George Washington sacrificed upon the cornerstone of the White House, he proved his ignorance with respect to God's laws and ways. Worse, he did it to the people's house, condemning them. :52:

Satan is about to be defeated on this earth, and he knows his time is short. I suggest, rather than running after "holy grail" stories, the readers here start praying to the One person who can give you some peace of mind if they're falling off of a ten story building, or drowning alone in the heart of the sea.

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!!!
religious people are so fucked in the head....
so called "evil" will never be defeated ...
it is part of human instinct ....
just like war is in our nature... it prevales far more then good...
and if your good or too kind you will be walked all over...
and taken advantage of....
and tell me is it evil to kill an animal???
beacause i see no diffrence between killing an animal or a human ...
the only difference is the LAWS ... MAN MADE LAWS...
other then that ... no difference ...
both effect the family...
and you may say its only ok to kill an animal if its for food...
so then if there is no other choices for food is it ok to kill a human?
if your going to eat him / her?

[Raptor Witness]

Wasteland,

I want you to record yourself in the last minute before you know you're going to die. I'm sure you'll be cussing, but if I don't hear at least one "help," I'll be surprised. :guill:

[uki]

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!!!
religious people are so fucked in the head....


i'll second that opinion... yet something comes to mind that we must embrace... "forgive them father for they know not what they do." to clarify, anyone still bickering about in the name of some religion is still in the lowly steps of true spiritual development; yet to lash out on them is not of much use either as it suggests judgement... remember, some are created for honor and others dishonor.

[Wastelandwarrior]

Wasteland,

I want you to record yourself in the last minute before you know you're going to die. I'm sure you'll be cussing, but if I don't hear at least one "help," I'll be surprised. :guill:
im sure i would ask for help ... but not from any god or devine being ....
i would ask for someone... not something to save me ...
or atleast hope... someone would save me ...
what about all of those inocent people that have been exicuted ... publicly hanged or what not... im sure they were begging god to save them .... and he didnt ...
why?
because he dosent exist ...
and you may say that god dosent bother with individuals ...
then what about genocide ?
Mass murder ....
i would think he would intervine ...
but he dosent...
why???....
because there is no god...
only man...
and his/hers twisted ideals

[Wastelandwarrior]

i'll second that opinion... yet something comes to mind that we must embrace... "forgive them father for they know not what they do." to clarify, anyone still bickering about in the name of some religion is still in the lowly steps of true spiritual development; yet to lash out on them is not of much use either as it suggests judgement... remember, some are created for honor and others dishonor.
agreed ...
i may be fucked up ... and i may be wrong ...
the difference between someone like me and a religous person is that they think they are right ... all the time...
no matter what evidence you have ( not to say that i have any off hand)
but if you have the idea in your head that you are right and everyone else is wrong ...
then you are wrong...
and i dont mean you uki...
i mean all

[Now]

im sure i would ask for help ... but not from any god or devine being ....
i would ask for someone... not something to save me ...
or atleast hope... someone would save me ...
what about all of those inocent people that have been exicuted ... publicly hanged or what not... im sure they were begging god to save them .... and he didnt ...
why?
because he dosent exist ...
and you may say that god dosent bother with individuals ...
then what about genocide ?
Mass murder ....
i would think he would intervine ...
but he dosent...
why???....
because there is no god...
only man...
and his/hers twisted ideals

There is nothing more natural than death. Why on earth do people think that if there is a God, it should save people from death? That would be the same as saying "God should have saved us from being born, but I was born, therefore there is no such thing as God." It doesn't prove or disprove anything.

The same goes for pain and suffering. Some people say "If there is a God, why does it let people suffer?" The reason that this is completely ridiculous is that some, or possibly even most of the most important lessons we learn are the results of pain and suffering. If we didn't have those experiences, we may never learn those important lessons, because on the whole, human beings don't seem to learn much from comfort and pleasure. In fact, those things often seem to make people lazier and greedier.

It would make perfect sense that some form of Infinite Universal Intelligence could be quite aware that we little carbon units actually need to experience that suffering in order to develop and grow, in the same way that good parents know that it doesn't do their children any good to wrap them up in cotton wool and shut them away from the harsh realities of existence, because the children will probably grow up to be weak, spoiled and ungrateful for the simple and beautiful things in life.

Regards, Now.