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Sammy56
Jul 10th, 2006, 1:44 AM
Today, society generally sees teenagers as the stereotypical rebellious lawbreaker who brings nothing but trouble. Teenagers are often seen as to immature and/or irresponsible to make their own decisions and therefore an "adult" must do it for them. Some adults feel that teenagers and young adults are nothing but bigger children and use this position to dismiss their thoughts, opinions, or feelings as irrelevant because they are not adults and therefore, these thoughts, opinions, and feelings don't matter. This raises quite a few questions.

1. Most countries, for legal reasons, consider someone an adult if they are over 18, but it doesn't make since that one day a person can be a child, and the next, an adult. Psychologically, it a process taking place in the brain. So, what makes someone an adult?

2. Some countries also hold restrictions on 18 year olds, even though, legally, they have reached adulthood. An example is, at least here in the United States, you cannot purchase alcohol (legally) until you are 21. Why? An 18, 19, or 20 year old is an adult, meaning, once again legally, that they are responsible for themselves. Why continue the restrictions?

3. Many cities/states/countries have rules in place targeted directly at teenagers. These laws, inspired by a few under-age wrongdoers, are implemented onto every teenager, regardless of their record. That is rarely, if ever, done in the adult world on such a large scale. Curfew is probably the most common example. Are rules such as this justified, or is it actually a type of age discrimination?

4. Teenagers are not in charge of their own medical decisions until they are 18. I believe the only exception is pregnancy and whether to have an abortion. It is their body, so why is the decision left to the parents, who may or may not have their child's best interests in mind?

5. Teenagers are denied rights that adults have. Freedom of speech could be considered denied when a school principle has to agree to the content of a student written newspaper. School administration is allowed to search through a student's personal belongings without a reason and without notifying the student or their parents. Some activists even go so far as to say that the voting age should be lowered to 16 in the United States. These restrictions, put onto any other group of people, would be condemned as discrimination, but it is almost universally accepted when done to those not considered adults. Should it be?

Basically, are teenagers and young adults being treated unfairly by society?

These are some of the questions that came up in a discussion not long ago in school. I thought it would be a good thread here since there is much diversity age-wise on this board.

lycanox
Jul 10th, 2006, 12:03 PM
I think we should make some kind of big rite of passage.
Teaching them about their responsibility, limits and create a sense of group between them.

Skynet12
Jul 10th, 2006, 12:27 PM
I know-I think :eek:

loganosborne
Jul 10th, 2006, 4:50 PM
1. Most countries, for legal reasons, consider someone an adult if they are over 18, but it doesn't make since that one day a person can be a child, and the next, an adult. Psychologically, it a process taking place in the brain. So, what makes someone an adult?
Thats a good question and youre right it isnt a one day process the reason why they say 18 in my opnion is thats when you're thought to be responsible enough to look after yourself.

2. Some countries also hold restrictions on 18 year olds, even though, legally, they have reached adulthood. An example is, at least here in the United States, you cannot purchase alcohol (legally) until you are 21. Why? An 18, 19, or 20 year old is an adult, meaning, once again legally, that they are responsible for themselves. Why continue the restrictions?
Here in England it is 16 when you cn start buying alcohol I think. Countries have different opnions on when your an adult. Not sure why they continue the restrictions.

4. Teenagers are not in charge of their own medical decisions until they are 18. I believe the only exception is pregnancy and whether to have an abortion. It is their body, so why is the decision left to the parents, who may or may not have their child's best interests in mind?
This is because they don't think you're mature enough to make your descisions on your body and they always think the parents do have the teenagers best interest eventhough thats not always true.

Good Post Sammy.

Jupiter
Jul 10th, 2006, 6:12 PM
Here in England it is 16 when you cn start buying alcohol I think.

UK, the minimum legal age to buy alcohol is 18. Cigarette legal min. age is 16, however there are steps afoot to increase this to 18. You can drink alcohol if you're 16 in a cafe/restaurant and you're having it with a meal. In Belgium (probably other countries too which I don't know about) you can buy alcohol younger, despite this interestingly Belgium have less drink-related problems than here in Britain.

donniedarko
Jul 12th, 2006, 11:43 AM
I am not sure if this applies, but 18 is the average age to graduate from highschool/secondary school, and so is generally considered the age when people actually enter the adult world and actually start paying taxes (although you can pay taxes before 18, you generally don't make enough)

With this in mind, the legal age to vote may be as a result of tax-paying status, and also as a recognition that at this point, you should have completed the free education that is provided by the state.

The legal age to drink is likely dependent on societal cues. For example, the legal age to drink in the states may be a reflection of how alcohol is percieved in their society (or was, remember prohibition?)

Although some young people are very mature and are able to make informed decisions regarding their health, etc. The vast majority are not as capable. As I recall, if you truly feel your parents are not acting in your best interests, you can apply to become a ward of the state and live on your own until you reach the age of majority. (I think you have to be 16 for this in Canada, but heck, I don't really remember).

I am happy with the age limits as they are, especially because of the subcultures of youth today that seem to lack in responsibility and morality. Then again, I am of the opinion that if you don't contribute to society, you shouldn't have the priviledge of the vote. Contribute and decide, or don't and get left behind.

D34DGuY
Jul 12th, 2006, 6:30 PM
I am not sure if this applies, but 18 is the average age to graduate from highschool/secondary school, and so is generally considered the age when people actually enter the adult world and actually start paying taxes (although you can pay taxes before 18, you generally don't make enough)

With this in mind, the legal age to vote may be as a result of tax-paying status, and also as a recognition that at this point, you should have completed the free education that is provided by the state.

The legal age to drink is likely dependent on societal cues. For example, the legal age to drink in the states may be a reflection of how alcohol is percieved in their society (or was, remember prohibition?)

Although some young people are very mature and are able to make informed decisions regarding their health, etc. The vast majority are not as capable. As I recall, if you truly feel your parents are not acting in your best interests, you can apply to become a ward of the state and live on your own until you reach the age of majority. (I think you have to be 16 for this in Canada, but heck, I don't really remember).

I am happy with the age limits as they are, especially because of the subcultures of youth today that seem to lack in responsibility and morality. Then again, I am of the opinion that if you don't contribute to society, you should have the priviledge of the vote. Contribute and decide, or don't and get left behind.

The first time I have said this....I could not agree with you more
:2thumbs:

I think the age limits set on america in particular are reasonable, with the exception of the alcohol age limit, soley because its viewed as okay, for an 18 year old to carry a gun and kill an enemy of the country but not drink....that doesnt seem right to me, they should either change the drinking age, or change the age that one can sign up for the military. Just my personal feelings about this.

loganosborne
Jul 13th, 2006, 4:36 AM
Donnie thats very well put and I completely agree with what you say.

mickydoolittle
Jul 14th, 2006, 10:40 PM
I am of the opinion that if you don't contribute to society, you should have the priviledge of the vote.
uhhmm...what?


Contribute and decide, or don't and get left behind.
Contradict yourself much? :Bott:

donniedarko
Jul 15th, 2006, 2:04 AM
Typo. Edited.

"Should" changed to "Shouldn't".