Crocadile hunter Steve Irwin killed

[Demonskates]

Aparently steve irwin was killed by a stingray in the ocean,the barb on the tail of the stiggray peirced his heart.I always thought it would have ended with him being eaten by some big ferocious animal,he is one of 3 people in history to die from a stingray.

[Sammy56]

Just so you know, it's already being discussed here. (http://forums.armageddononline.org/showthread.php?p=115781#post115781)


he is one of 3 people in history to die from a stingray. Really? I never knew that.

[loganosborne]

he is one of 3 people in history to die from a stingray.
What an intresting fact. Thanks for telling me.

[Demonskates]

Just so you know, it's already being discussed here. (http://forums.armageddononline.org/showthread.php?p=115781#post115781)

Really? I never knew that.
OOOH dang it,i have to wake up earlier if im going to beat u guys to posting,lol.sorry for the double post.

[db99]

he is the second in australia and they reckon the stingray felt provoked

[Demonskates]

he is the second in australia and they reckon the stingray felt provoked
Recon it was provoked???!!!!It impaled his heart!Id say it was provoked,lol.

[Raptor Witness]

I always figured that a croc. would get him. It must have stabbed him, up and under his diaphragm. Here's an interesting photo I found from Australia, proving that even the most adapted creatures in the sea can get caught off guard by the stingray.

http://static.flickr.com/92/234121374_f0f176f569_o.jpg

"Live strandings of single and multiple animals are fairly common along the Australian coast ....
Predators include the Killer Whale. An unfortunate stranded animal in Western Australia had a stingray barb embedded in its body. (http://www.samuseum.sa.gov.au/orig/dolphins.htm )


http://www.martysnyderman.com/imagefolio/gallery/Rays/Stingrays/RAYSTG-115.jpg


http://www.martysnyderman.com/imagefolio/gallery/Rays/Stingrays/RAYSTG-137.jpg

[Now]

He was a good man, who managed to combine education and entertainment...and a fine Aussie. He loved nature with an extraordinary passion, he will be sadly missed and fondly remembered...Crikey! Peace Steve...

Now.

[Raptor Witness]

More cool pics....

http://www.seaturtlehospital.org/raybarb1.jpg

http://www.tellmewhereonearth.com/photostore2/MVC-915S.JPG Fossil barbs

[lycanox]

he is one of 3 people in history to die from a stingray.

Strange, according to CNN,


Fatal stings extremely rare, with only 17 recorded stingray deaths in Australia since 1969

They are cool creatures. They can slam holes in rowing boats with that tail.
Guess, that particularly stingray is gonna be hell popular in the animal world.

[loganosborne]

Demon Actually never provided a source so his information could have been misinformed. I just couldn't be botherd to ask for a link anyway thanks for the info lycanox.

[Jupiter]

Thanks Now. It's a great shame, one of my friends really liked him, and she will be slightly devastated. He was an excellent presenter. However, he was a massive risk taker, and some people are saying that this kind of sad event was almost inevitable. I watched him several times on the TV and he was a nice humourous friendly character. Great shame!

[Sammy56]

I always figured that a croc. would get him. It must have stabbed him, up and under his diaphragm. Actually, I think it stabbed him in his heart. I'm with you though. I also thought it would eventually be a crocodile.

[krakatoa]

i already posted on the other thread about this. It is very sad, for a lot of peoples, everywhere, in the world everybody knew him and his family. and to is family it is a tragedy. C.

[Raptor Witness]

Actually, I think it stabbed him in his heart. I'm with you though. I also thought it would eventually be a crocodile.Please study anatomy before correcting me Sammy. The barb wouldn't likely penetrate a man's breastplate. :idea:

[Sammy56]

Please study anatomy before correcting me Sammy. The barb wouldn't likely penetrate a man's breastplate.
According to this (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060904/ap_on_en_tv/obit_irwin) article-

"He came on top of the stingray and the stingray's barb went up and into his chest and put a hole into his heart," said Stainton, who was on board Irwin's boat at the time.
Please do some research before correcting me Raptor. :ohmy:

[Raptor Witness]

According to this (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060904/ap_on_en_tv/obit_irwin) article-

Please do some research before correcting me Raptor. :ohmy:You don't know what you're talking about. The "chest" is a relative term. Try studying combat techniques taught in the military. You don't stab a man through his breatplate, in order to get to his heart.

Of course, being a young female, I'm sure you haven't been exposed to these ideas before. :prin:

[Sammy56]

You don't know what you're talking about. The "chest" is a relative term. Try studying combat techniques taught in the military. You don't stab a man through his breatplate, in order to get to his heart. What, did you miss the second half of the quote? It put a hole in his heart! Here (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/04092006/323/australian-crocodile-hunter-steve-irwin-killed-stingray.html) is another article that says the same thing.


World-famous Australian "crocodile hunter" and television environmentalist Steve Irwin has been killed by a stingray blow to the heart while filming a new documentary.

You don't stab a man through his breatplate, in order to get to his heart. Where did you get the idea he was wearing a breastplate?


Of course, being a young female, I'm sure you haven't been exposed to these ideas before. If you're talking about combat techniques, you couldn't be more wrong. However, what importance does that bear on how this man was killed?

[Raptor Witness]

What, did you miss the second half of the quote? It put a hole in his heart! Here (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/04092006/323/australian-crocodile-hunter-steve-irwin-killed-stingray.html) is another article that says the same thing.


Where did you get the idea he was wearing a breastplate?

If you're talking about combat techniques, you couldn't be more wrong. However, what importance does that bear on how this man was killed?Breast Bone ...WHATEVER! :52:

[Sammy56]

Breast Bone ...WHATEVER! The breast-bone doesn't completely cover the heart. Especially if it comes in at an angle, it's not the difficult for ones of those spines to reach the heart.

Besides, why are you still arguing this when I have shown you two sources that confirm he was stabbed through the heart? Because you cannot admit you were wrong in your earlier assumption?

[Smoke]

You don't know what you're talking about. The "chest" is a relative term. Try studying combat techniques taught in the military. You don't stab a man through his breatplate, in order to get to his heart.

Of course, being a young female, I'm sure you haven't been exposed to these ideas before. :prin:


it went through his heart through his chest his manager said it liv on cnn sorry raptor. personally i dont beleive that is something t be argued about u should spend a little more time reflecting omn what good he did than how he died.

[Raptor Witness]

You guys and girls don't even know where your diaphragm is. When the autopsy is done, and if it is released, I guarantee you, that barb will not have penetrated his breastbone. Again, you don't understand your anatomy. The witness didn't check to see exactly where the barb penetrated, but if it got him from underneath the breast bone, through the diaphragm, it makes more sense.

Again, you both are arguing about a general statement made by a man who probably wouldn't know where his own diaphragm was. You know about as much as the man making the statement. Why do you keep arguing a point of obvious ignorance, from a boat hand with about a fourth grade education?

[Demonskates]

Strange, according to CNN,



They are cool creatures. They can slam holes in rowing boats with that tail.
Guess, that particularly stingray is gonna be hell popular in the animal world.
Yeah well,i heard it second hand,i was misinformed apparently.still extremely rare is what i was getting at.

[Sammy56]

You guys and girls don't even know where your diaphragm is. When the autopsy is done, and if it is released, I guarantee you, that barb will not have penetrated his breastbone. Actually, I am quite well versed in anatomy, thank you.

I never claimed the bard pierced the breast-bone. There is no way that happened. The breast-bone, however, doesn't completely cover the heart and the bard easily could have pierced it or the aorta at an angle. It's the same principle of what happens when someone dies from being shot in the heart, although a bullet might go through the breast-bone.

If you are so convinced of your theory Raptor, find an article from a respectable source that says he was pierced where he said he was. I will then greatfully retract my statements.

[Smoke]

Actually, I am quite well versed in anatomy, thank you.

I never claimed the bard pierced the breast-bone. There is no way that happened. The breast-bone, however, doesn't completely cover the heart and the bard easily could have pierced it or the aorta at an angle. It's the same principle of what happens when someone dies from being shot in the heart, although a bullet might go through the breast-bone.

If you are so convinced of your theory Raptor, find an article from a respectable source that says he was pierced where he said he was. I will then greatfully retract my statements.


all i know is it went into is heart

[Smoke]

all i know is it went into is heart
and what the fuck are u insulting us for jeesus christ grow up it was an accident. you shoudnt be arguing about how he died anyways.

[Sammy56]

Smoke, I'm lost. Are you insulting yourself?

[Smoke]

Smoke, I'm lost. Are you insulting yourself?


no raptor wittness saying we have less than fourthgrade ed. i didnt mean to double post

[Assassin X]

Heres exactly what happened:


Death
Crocodile Hunter's Steve Irwin dies at 44Shortly after 11:00 a.m. local time (01:00 UTC) on 4 September 2006, Irwin was fatally pierced in the chest by a short-tail stingray barb while diving in Batt Reef (part of the Great Barrier Reef), off the coast of Port Douglas in Queensland, Australia. Irwin was in the area filming his own documentary, to be called The Ocean's Deadliest, but weather had stalled filming. Irwin decided to take the opportunity to film some shallow water shots for a segment in the television program his daughter Bindi was hosting,[26] when, according to his friend and colleague John Stainton, he swam too close to one of the animals. "He came on top of the stingray and the stingray's barb went up and into his chest and put a hole into his heart," said Stainton, who was on board Irwin's boat, called the Croc I, at the time.

The events were caught on camera, and the footage was handed to the Queensland Police.[27] After reviewing the footage of the incident and speaking to the cameraman who recorded it, marine documentary filmmaker and fisherman Ben Cropp speculated that the stingray "felt threatened because Steve was alongside and there was the cameraman ahead." In such a case, the stingray responds by automatically flexing the serrated barb on its tail up to a maximum of 25 cm (10 in) of length. Cropp said Irwin had accidentally boxed the animal in. "It stopped and twisted and threw up its tail with the spike, and it caught him in the chest. It's a defensive thing. It's like being stabbed with a dirty dagger." The stinging of Irwin by the bull ray was "a one-in-a-million thing," Cropp told Time magazine. "I have swum with many rays, and I have only had one do that to me."[28] Immediately after the attack, Irwin was shown on tape pulling the barb out, before losing consciousness.[29] It is thought, in the absence of a coroner's report, that either the toxins of the barb caused Irwin to die of an apparent cardiac arrest[30] or that he died quickly as a result of a punctured aorta[31].

Crewmembers aboard his boat called the emergency services in the nearest city of Cairns and administered CPR as they rushed the boat to nearby Lowe Isle to meet a rescue helicopter. Medical staff pronounced Irwin dead when they arrived a short time later.[26]

Irwin's body was flown to a morgue in Cairns. His wife was on a walking tour in Cradle Mountain-Lake St Clair National Park in Tasmania at the time, and returned via private plane from Devonport to the Sunshine Coast with their two children.[26]

This was only the third known fatality in Australian history from a stingray attack, and the first since 1945.[32] As of 1996, only seventeen worldwide fatalities had been recorded,[33] and it is believed to be the only fatal attack ever captured on film.[34]

Reaction
The Queensland Police notified his family and released a statement for the media concerning his death.[35] News of his death prompted a public outpouring expressing shock and loss. Australian Prime Minister John Howard expressed his "shock and distress" at the death, saying that "Australia has lost a wonderful and colourful son,"[36]. Queensland Premier Peter Beattie extended the offer of a state funeral to Irwin's family, commenting in a Channel Seven television interview that Irwin "will be remembered as not just a great Queenslander, but a great Australian".[37] Beattie also stated a permanent memorial might be constructed in honour of Irwin, though the details of the structure would depend on Irwin's wife. [38] Several Australian news websites went down because of high web traffic[39] and talk-back radio experienced a high volume of callers expressing their grief,[40] commemorating his passion and exuberance.

The U.S. feed of the Animal Planet cable television channel aired a special tribute to Steve Irwin at 6:00pm EST on Monday, 4 September 2006, and they are planning a more complete tribute by showing highlights of Irwin's more than 200 appearances on Discovery networks shows. [1] The president of the Discovery Network, Billy Campbell, released a statement, saying:[41]

Our entire company is deeply saddened by the tragic and sudden loss of Steve Irwin, the Crocodile Hunter. Steve was beloved by millions of fans and animal lovers around the world and was one of our planet's most passionate conservationists. He has graced our air since October 1996 and was essential in building Animal Planet into a global brand.

Animal Planet will rename the garden space in front of Discovery's world headquarters in Silver Spring, Maryland, to the "Steve Irwin Memorial Sensory Garden." They are also looking at the creation of the Steve Irwin Crocodile Hunter Fund, which they will call "The Crikey Fund" which will "allow people from across the globe to make contributions in Steve's honor to support wildlife protection, education and conservation."[41]


For more see here. Although sometimes they are not always accurate:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_irwin

[annabelly]

Heres exactly what happened:


For more see here. Although sometimes they are not always accurate:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_irwin

I clicked on to my once esteemed website Armageddononline to see what the higher brain's had made of the sad demise of one of the worlds greatest men and characters of this century. Just when I needed serious cheering up, it was brought to my attention that virtually all who now visit this site are complete MORONS... those that arent' know who they are!

Perhaps MORONS is too strong a word....try gossipy old nancy boys and girls....sad, sad...cases!!!
Get a life and....get away from your computers unless you are already educated or educating yourselves through your internet travels.

Let Steve Irwin be an inspiration to you as the active and dynamic conservationist and loving father that he was...not some pitiful topic of crappy backward and forward bullshit debate of no consequence....stop being of no consequence yourselves...be like Steve Irwin...sincere, energetic and dedicated to his beliefs , and to his family!

His manager said Steve had recently claimed that the last month of his life had been the best in his life....lets all try to make our last month the best and most fullfilling of our lives..no matter when the last month may be.

[Justice]

I clicked on to my once esteemed website Armageddononline to see what the higher brain's had made of the sad demise of one of the worlds greatest men and characters of this century.

Sorry to break it to you but many people simply didn’t like the man and this includes myself.

would tell you he's a dick but i'll let you greave first

[Raptor Witness]

Sorry to break it to you but many people simply didn’t like the man and this includes myself.

would tell you he's a dick but i'll let you greave firstTHANK YOU! I never liked him, as I always thought he was a grandstander who molested animals for the camera. He molested one too many deadly creatures and he died a painful death. Small payback for all the animals he wrestled into submission over the years. I'm sorry for his wife and his children, sincerely, but I won't miss him on my idolatrous idiot box.

[equalizer]

The man did some good for animal conservation which we should all be thankful for. However on some level I have to agree with Raptor. He was a grandstander. I found him hard to watch. Everytime he was on a latenight talk show like Jay Leno I had to turn it until he was gone. It was like he was all cranked up on something all the time. Disturbing.

[Jupiter]

Sorry to break it to you but many people simply didn’t like the man and this includes myself.

would tell you he's a dick but i'll let you greave first

Many people liked this man, he was a famous man. He was an inspiration, except to the people that didn't like him, who of course do not wish people they don't like dead. There's some very sympathetic comments in a duplicate thread within Laid-back discussion, Off Topic.

[Assassin X]

I liked him, people know me as cold but I actually had teary eyes when I read he died on the online news. He was like a "hero" to me, I love animals and he was the worlds best when it came to teaching people about them.